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(Mirror.co.uk)   Titanic officer may have 'played down' collision to dodge negligence claims - shocking considering the iceberg was up to 100ft high by 400ft wide, the 46,000-ton ship was speeding through an ice field at night, and the crew failed to spot it in time   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 33
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2014-04-10 01:07:06 AM
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2014-04-10 01:14:17 AM
The ship was supposed to be unsinkable.  I'm a little surprised it had an insurance policy at all.
 
2014-04-10 01:27:48 AM
Photo of Second officer Charles Lightoller
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2014-04-10 09:16:10 AM
Old news is exciting.
 
2014-04-10 09:16:22 AM
Stop analyzing and analyzing a movie released 15 years ago.
 
2014-04-10 09:16:46 AM
tis only a flesh wound.
 
2014-04-10 09:17:51 AM
Breaking News!
 
2014-04-10 09:27:16 AM
Great caption under photo:

Titanic: It sank

No spoiler alert either.
 
2014-04-10 09:28:29 AM
FTFA:

The iceberg was up to 100ft high by 400ft wide, but the 46,000-ton ship was speeding through an icefield at night and crew failed to spot it in time
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Titanic: It sank

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The iceberg was actually up to 100ft high by 400ft wide, but the 46,000-ton ship was speeding through an icefield at night and crew failed to spot it in time.


TFA stinks.

How big was the iceberg?? How big was the ship?? Why did it hit the ice?? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SHIP??
 
2014-04-10 09:32:12 AM
The ship should've just rammed the 'berg. It would've survived with a crushed bow. At least that's what one documentary told me.
 
2014-04-10 09:32:14 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: FTFA:

The iceberg was up to 100ft high by 400ft wide, but the 46,000-ton ship was speeding through an icefield at night and crew failed to spot it in time
PA

Titanic: It sank

...

The iceberg was actually up to 100ft high by 400ft wide, but the 46,000-ton ship was speeding through an icefield at night and crew failed to spot it in time.


TFA stinks.

How big was the iceberg?? How big was the ship?? Why did it hit the ice?? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SHIP??


It sank.
 
2014-04-10 09:35:39 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Old news is exciting.


They'll never let go, Jack
 
2014-04-10 09:37:10 AM
Is it "Titanic" or "The Titanic?"
 
2014-04-10 09:38:32 AM
I would think that attempting to set a speed record through iceberg-infested waters should, all by itself, cancel any insurance policy. They threatened to cancel me for getting too many tickets....and I didn't even hit any icebergs.
 
2014-04-10 09:39:56 AM
I'd be interested in learning more about this officer's life after all the publicity died down. Did he retire in luxury after securing a $5M insurance payout for his company?
 
2014-04-10 09:41:31 AM
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2014-04-10 09:48:42 AM
Almost 100 years later, and this is news why? Oh, because something related is up for sale.

As for invalidating insurance claims: the most damning evidence against paying should have been the fact that the president of White Star Lines (Bruce Ismay) jumped into one of the first lifeboats he could get into. Bastard should have been standing right next to the captain and gone down with his ship.
 
2014-04-10 09:51:01 AM

Casey Anthony: [cdn-s3.thewrap.com image 618x400]


I'm torn between two captions here.

"Mind if I call you Oscar?" or "Hail Hydra"
 
2014-04-10 09:52:19 AM
Transcript of the fatal night
Crows Nest: i'cbrg ded a'heed!
Captain: What?
Crows Nest: Ah said Issbrg ded a'heed, sir!
Captain: Nice what?
Crows Nest: No! Sir! Ah said issbrg ded a'h'd!
Captain: Please stop looking at the nice birds, lookout. You're supposed to be looking for ice bergs.
Crows Nest: Aye! Sir. Dere's an issbrg ded a'ed! We're 'eadin' right fer it!
Captain: Oh. Ice berg. Dead ahead. Well, what kind of ice berg is it?
Crows Nest: Aye dunno, sir. I wasn't expectin' a kin' of Spanish Inquisition.
And everyone knows what happened next.
 
2014-04-10 10:02:23 AM

Barricaded Gunman: I'd be interested in learning more about this officer's life after all the publicity died down. Did he retire in luxury after securing a $5M insurance payout for his company?


I don't know about luxury, but he and his son used their boat to help evacuate allied troops from Dunkirk in 1940.
 
2014-04-10 10:05:06 AM
Oh, and interesting tidbit about failing to spot the iceberg - the lookouts didn't have any binoculars because the cabinet was locked. One of the ship's officers was replaced at the last minute and forgot to give the key to his replacement. It's on display at the Southampton Maritime Museum.
 
2014-04-10 10:05:11 AM

mayIFark: Stop analyzing and analyzing a movie released 15 years ago.


jimromenesko.com
 
2014-04-10 10:22:05 AM

Jingle Strangle: mayIFark: Stop analyzing and analyzing a movie released 15 years ago.

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I was referring to those, but was lazy to find a screenshot.
 
2014-04-10 11:15:05 AM

untaken_name: I would think that attempting to set a speed record through iceberg-infested waters should, all by itself, cancel any insurance policy. They threatened to cancel me for getting too many tickets....and I didn't even hit any icebergs.


That's something of a myth.  Titanic was built for pleasure, not speed.  Cunard had several liners at the time that could blow Titanic out of the water (so to speak).  On the night of the collision, Titanic wasn't even going top speed.  They had been gradually ramping up the speed to test the engines, but that was standard practice.  I think the speed record story came out afterwards as a way to tar Bruce Ismay for surviving.
 
2014-04-10 11:25:34 AM

KingKauff: The ship should've just rammed the 'berg. It would've survived with a crushed bow. At least that's what one documentary told me.


That's quite possible.  The actual damage to the ship was relatively small, but it was spread out over five watertight compartments which is what caused it to sink.  Near the bow of the ship, the builders were forced to use wrought iron rivets instead of steel rivets, and the lower quality iron used made the rivets vulnerable to tensile stress.  When the iceberg deformed the hull, it caused the heads of the rivets in the immediate vicinity to pop off, transferring the stress to adjacent rivets which essentially unzipped the hull.
 
2014-04-10 11:46:59 AM

Dick Gozinya: Almost 100 years later, and this is news why?


I'm sure the fact that the 100th anniversary of the sinking is 4 days away is not at all relevant.
 
2014-04-10 11:51:06 AM
Doesn't even begin to cover their responsibility for perpetrating Celine Dion upon moviegoers and radio listeners for years. Seriously, the crew of Titanic didn't think about any of the consequences of hitting the iceberg.
 
2014-04-10 11:55:58 AM

ImpendingCynic: Dick Gozinya: Almost 100 years later, and this is news why?

I'm sure the fact that the 100th anniversary of the sinking is 4 days away is not at all relevant.


Considering the 100th anniversary of the sinking was two years ago, guess again.
 
2014-04-10 01:23:48 PM
"the iceberg was up to 100ft high by 400ft wide".

Think about this, only 10-20% of an iceberg's mass is visible above water.  I assume the 100ft was just what was visible above the water.
 
2014-04-10 01:55:01 PM
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2014-04-10 07:03:55 PM
Baghdad Bob is SO 2003....
 
2014-04-10 10:29:58 PM

Barricaded Gunman: I'd be interested in learning more about this officer's life after all the publicity died down. Did he retire in luxury after securing a $5M insurance payout for his company?


No, he went on to become a WW2 hero. This article is the first time I've ever read anything negative about him.
 
2014-04-11 12:14:02 AM

Mentat: untaken_name: I would think that attempting to set a speed record through iceberg-infested waters should, all by itself, cancel any insurance policy. They threatened to cancel me for getting too many tickets....and I didn't even hit any icebergs.

That's something of a myth.  Titanic was built for pleasure, not speed.  Cunard had several liners at the time that could blow Titanic out of the water (so to speak).  On the night of the collision, Titanic wasn't even going top speed.  They had been gradually ramping up the speed to test the engines, but that was standard practice.  I think the speed record story came out afterwards as a way to tar Bruce Ismay for surviving.


Yeah but that doesn't make for nearly as good a joke. They did only have half the necessary lifeboats, though. Today that wouldn't fly at all.
 
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