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(Engadget)   "BlackBerry is willing to stop making phones if they keep losing money." Come on people, lets make this a reality   (engadget.com) divider line 25
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2014-04-10 07:07:00 AM
I know the touchscreens are great, but NOTHING compares to a real blackberry keyboard. The ones like the 8700 were fantastic. You could type 70wpm without even looking down.

I would probably (stupidly) pay $1000 if you could give me a phone that is my Note 3 on one side and the 8700 keyboard with a smaller screen on the back. Heck. I would pay close to that if it was just 8700 on the bottom and whatever is left of the note 3 screen on the top;
 
2014-04-10 07:08:21 AM
I liked the 8700...
www.brighthand.com
but the 6700 keyboard was even better.
www.altagon.com
 
2014-04-10 08:04:01 AM
Waterloo... silicon valley of Canada.

/I miss WATCOM C/C++
 
2014-04-10 08:33:56 AM
You can pry my 9800 from my cold, dead, crooked thumbs
 
2014-04-10 08:36:06 AM

Ghost Roach: You can pry my 9800 from my cold, dead, crooked thumbs


Nice.
 
2014-04-10 08:51:46 AM
I know buttons are nice and all... but they could modernize just a tad.
There's no reason a smart phone should feel like a pager I had back in the 90's.
 
2014-04-10 09:06:19 AM

reprobate1125: I know the touchscreens are great, but NOTHING compares to a real blackberry keyboard. The ones like the 8700 were fantastic. You could type 70wpm without even looking down.

I would probably (stupidly) pay $1000 if you could give me a phone that is my Note 3 on one side and the 8700 keyboard with a smaller screen on the back. Heck. I would pay close to that if it was just 8700 on the bottom and whatever is left of the note 3 screen on the top;


I just want a 5"+ screen with a physical keyboard of some kind.  Touchscreen typing just sucks and I'm tired of my fat thumb hitting space instead of "b" or "v", happens multiple times a day with every keyboard app I've tried.  I wish the Photon Q 4G LTE had a bigger and higher resolution screen, cause I'd get one real fast if that was the case.

I've learned that only geeks, professionals, and girls who text a lot want keyboards, everyone else seems to be happy with the pop up touchscreen crapboard.....you'd think those 3 would be the biggest market for smartphones and they'd build phones targeted to those people.  Yes, those people.
 
2014-04-10 09:12:32 AM
I can SWYPE better than I can type.  And it only takes one finger!!!
 
2014-04-10 09:26:08 AM

PaulieattheTap: I can SWYPE better than I can type.  And it only takes one finger!!!


I tried that, but SWYPE doesn't, or at least for me, didn't like words such as Debian, Ubuntu, ddr3, sqlite.....basically, techy terms and words.  I'm an RC over at XDA, if you've ever tried to respond to an actual technical post with a technical answer on a phone with SWYPE you'll want to kill something.  It's great for text messaging for the most part, I use SwiftKey's swype feature for that, but for technical crap, touch typing is better (at least while my custom dictionary is building).....touch typing, makes me feel like a 5yo that couldn't type all over again.

Smartphones -- The ability to ssh into the corporate server and fix a screwy daemon, only to type commands with the skill set of a child
 
2014-04-10 09:53:52 AM

RockofAges: Anyone delusional enough to believe touchscreens (basically a gimmick control noted for extreme lack of precision) are equal to mechanical keyboards is lollers. If you're under 30 you have the excuse of not knowing any better, at least.


Being over forty I had the unfortunate pleasure of having a half dozen blackberries in my career (and a couple palms and windows mobile devices) and every single one of them was a piece of shiat. The simple fact is that most people HATE mechanical keyboards on small devices. Which is why they are becoming niche devices. Not because people aren't exposed to them.

/the IBM model M keyboard is the only real keyboard that matters anyhow
//get off my lawn
///typed from a virtual keyboard on a mobile device
 
2014-04-10 09:56:58 AM
I have friends at pretty big companies that continue to provide Blackberry's to employees because they're so cheap. The price point will keep them around for a while.
 
2014-04-10 10:02:06 AM

RockofAges: Anyone delusional enough to believe touchscreens (basically a gimmick control noted for extreme lack of precision) are equal to mechanical keyboards is lollers. If you're under 30 you have the excuse of not knowing any better, at least.


Nah, I'm under 30, 29, and I know better.  I'd put it closer 21 and under.  I went to school in the 90's in Arkansas and learned typing in the first grade, 91, and as far as  I know, they still teach typing for some students at that age (I was in the advanced class, don't remember if they taught everyone or not).  The only difference between kids in the 90's and kids from about 07/08 and up is a touchscreen and smartphones, unless we were privileged or in the tech sector since neither weren't widely used like they are now before then.
 
2014-04-10 10:06:52 AM
Jim Rome said to be inconsolable.
 
2014-04-10 10:11:06 AM

skeevy420: I just want a 5"+ screen with a physical keyboard of some kind.  Touchscreen typing just sucks and I'm tired of my fat thumb hitting space instead of "b" or "v", happens multiple times a day with every keyboard app I've tried.  I wish the Photon Q 4G LTE had a bigger and higher resolution screen, cause I'd get one real fast if that was the case.

I've learned that only geeks, professionals, and girls who text a lot want keyboards, everyone else seems to be happy with the pop up touchscreen crapboard.....you'd think those 3 would be the biggest market for smartphones and they'd build phones targeted to those people.  Yes, those people.


The problem is that "of some kind" doesn't really work. I went from a blackberry to the Epic 4g, a 4" phone with a slide out keyboard that was total CRAP compared to the BB one. You really want blackberryesque in your keyboard.

I know it's been said a million times, but if Blackberry would just make android phones, the world would be a better place.
 
2014-04-10 10:13:35 AM
Using an android phone, and when decent reception is available, I like to use the voice to text function.  It has been rather accurate for me.  I'm sure those who use a lot of specialized lingo (techie types) might have an issue, but again it helps when I'm busy with my hands most of the time.
 
2014-04-10 10:22:01 AM

reprobate1125: skeevy420: I just want a 5"+ screen with a physical keyboard of some kind.  Touchscreen typing just sucks and I'm tired of my fat thumb hitting space instead of "b" or "v", happens multiple times a day with every keyboard app I've tried.  I wish the Photon Q 4G LTE had a bigger and higher resolution screen, cause I'd get one real fast if that was the case.

I've learned that only geeks, professionals, and girls who text a lot want keyboards, everyone else seems to be happy with the pop up touchscreen crapboard.....you'd think those 3 would be the biggest market for smartphones and they'd build phones targeted to those people.  Yes, those people.

The problem is that "of some kind" doesn't really work. I went from a blackberry to the Epic 4g, a 4" phone with a slide out keyboard that was total CRAP compared to the BB one. You really want blackberryesque in your keyboard.

I know it's been said a million times, but if Blackberry would just make android phones, the world would be a better place.


True.  Is "some kind of high quality"  better?  I figured that would be assumed.  Who wants a crappy product made?

noblewolf: Using an android phone, and when decent reception is available, I like to use the voice to text function.  It has been rather accurate for me.  I'm sure those who use a lot of specialized lingo (techie types) might have an issue, but again it helps when I'm busy with my hands most of the time.


So does my Dad.  It works just fine for him and he had his teeth pulled a few months back and is getting adjusted to the falsies.  I have a bit of a Southern accent and it works just fine for me too.
 
2014-04-10 10:29:55 AM
I like my z10. Just wish blackberry world wasn't so shiate and full of "let's make 'em pay for this version, even though its free/less expensive on other platforms" developers.  Thank god for andriod app support.
 
2014-04-10 10:54:42 AM

way south: I know buttons are nice and all... but they could modernize just a tad.
There's no reason a smart phone should feel like a pager I had back in the 90's.


Most of the newer phones are pretty nice.  I had three different BB devices from 2009 - 2013 for work, before they went to iPhone as the primary device.  They got progressively more modern, powerful, and sleek.  Good interface, the keyboards were great selling points and easy to use.  The mail system still beats the iPhone and many Android devices.

Their problem was a complete disconnect from how users today use the damn things.  Music, video, web browsing, and modern apps/games - terrible.  Just awful.  Weak libraries, clunky video players, neutered apps.

After a few years of using modern devices, using a BB feels like running on sand.  In a blizzard.  Wearing a grizzly bear on my back.
 
2014-04-10 12:21:32 PM
I remember 10-11 years (maybe longer) ago when the Blackberry was the phone to have and store couldnt keep them in stock.
 
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2014-04-10 12:28:36 PM

skeevy420: I tried that, but SWYPE doesn't, or at least for me, didn't like words such as Debian, Ubuntu, ddr3, sqlite.....basically, techy terms and words.


Type them once, then add them to your dictionary.
 
2014-04-10 01:52:43 PM

RockofAges: Anyone delusional enough to believe touchscreens (basically a gimmick control noted for extreme lack of precision) are equal to mechanical keyboards is lollers. If you're under 30 you have the excuse of not knowing any better, at least.


Mechanical keyboards are a pain in the ass.  Plus, the true advantage to a touchscreen keyboard is that it goes away when you're not using it and it doesn't take up space on the front of your phone.  It's easier to review emails and documents when you have more screen to work with, and the convenience of having a touchscreen interface makes navigating around much more straightforward.

My firm just moved everyone from blackberrys to iphones and I was practically jumping with joy when I got to put that damn blackberry in a box and ship it straight to hell.
 
2014-04-10 11:16:55 PM
Blackberry went out of business 4-5 years ago when the decided not to make an android app and an associated super-cheap chip to add to android phones to make them fully blackberry server compatible. They have to fight the good fight for legal reasons, but they are already dead.
 
2014-04-11 03:11:35 AM

skeevy420: So does my Dad.  It works just fine for him and he had his teeth pulled a few months back and is getting adjusted to the falsies.


Narrower jawline, bigger chest?
 
2014-04-11 10:25:29 AM

RockofAges: Anyone delusional enough to believe touchscreens (basically a gimmick control noted for extreme lack of precision) are equal to mechanical keyboards is lollers. If you're under 30 you have the excuse of not knowing any better, at least.


YAY moving parts that inevitably wear out before the rest of the phone and take up an assload of space on the phone
 
2014-04-11 10:29:41 AM

RockofAges: shut_it_down: RockofAges: Anyone delusional enough to believe touchscreens (basically a gimmick control noted for extreme lack of precision) are equal to mechanical keyboards is lollers. If you're under 30 you have the excuse of not knowing any better, at least.

Mechanical keyboards are a pain in the ass.  Plus, the true advantage to a touchscreen keyboard is that it goes away when you're not using it and it doesn't take up space on the front of your phone.  It's easier to review emails and documents when you have more screen to work with, and the convenience of having a touchscreen interface makes navigating around much more straightforward.

My firm just moved everyone from blackberrys to iphones and I was practically jumping with joy when I got to put that damn blackberry in a box and ship it straight to hell.

I totally agree with you -- for navigation, swipe away.

When it's time for big-boy text input, it's time for a real keyboard. Even if the crappy phone keyboard has to suffice, it still beats "jab a 3 inch screen with your index finger and pray you hit the right letter each time" or "slap any old text in there and hope auto does its job". Honestly, I type around 100 wpm. Touchscreen typing is like speaking in slow motion.


Why on earth are you doing much more typing on a phone than "Be right there in 5"?
 
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