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2014-04-10 08:14:33 AM

meanmutton: farvour: Then I suppose I should not feel bad that women pay higher healthcare premiums because they can get pregnant.

Not all men eat more than their women counterparts, just like not all women plan to get pregnant.

So much for gender equality. People who really beleive that will ever be achieved worldwide are deluded.

In the Us, women don't pay higher health insurance premiums. That's explicitly illegal. Insurance companies can only use age as a rating factor and even there they can't have their highest age rating be more than 3 times the cost of their lowest age rating. Source: ACA


Yup but now we are all being forced to pay for stuff we don't need like maternity coverage so it is cheaper for chicks who want to spawn.  It would be like making all of us have to pay for boat insurance , even if we don't own a  boat, so it is cheaper for boat owners. Or how about higher auto insurance rates on teenage girls to make insurance cheaper for teenage boys.
 
2014-04-10 08:15:14 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Pathman: So?  A business should be able to charge whatever the hell it wants.  If you don't like it, eat somewhere else.

Dinner for white folks: $30
Dinner for colored folks people of color: $200

I trust you can see where your assertion starts to come apart?


They could make up the $170 difference by letting them drink out of the same water fountains. Having to support separate fountains is very costly.
 
2014-04-10 08:15:45 AM
Baloney! My ex is a fat ass and she can eat twice as much as I can! In fact she used to always joke that I eat like a bird! Maybe that's why I can still where the same clothes I wore when I was in high school (that I graduated from twenty years ago) and she can't wear the same clothes she bought last year!
 
2014-04-10 08:16:26 AM

vudukungfu: markfara: 1) The ones that charge a single price for "all you can eat" attract people with slobbish eating habits and poor hygiene (and fat children who touch the food with their fingers to help them decide if they want it or not).

I've seen skinny kids do it too.
No discipline in children nowadays.
I know who they get that from.


#1 Rule with kids and buffets or group dining -
If you touch it you've got to take it.
 
2014-04-10 08:16:49 AM
18 year old women should register for the draft like men. End the discrimination Obama!
 
2014-04-10 08:16:58 AM

smoky2010: GORDON: smoky2010: Nogale: Businesses aren't, or shouldn't be, stupid. They know how to set prices to cover a profit that changes slightly from customer to customer.

I have long, extremely thick wavy hair. When I go to get it colored, my hairdresser has to use more product than he does with other clients. He doesn't charge me more.

Your hairdresser doesn't charge you as he is overcharging everyone. You're just using closer to what you are paying for.

This is the same way my coffee place affords to give me a free coffee once in a while. I'm paying $1 for a cup, cream, sugar and coffee that only costs about $.10 to produce.

If only ingredients were the only expenses the guy selling you that cup of coffee had... he'd be making a shiatload of profit.

But I am just nitpicking.  Point still stands.

I buy my coffee at cumberland farms. Yes, there is some labor overhead but not much. So, that $.10 coffee may cost $.15. Thanks for keeping me honest.


I don't know what a cumberland farms is.  If I did you might have swayed me.  But I doubt it is a magical place that doesn't have any transportation, taxation, labor, energy, or storage costs.
 
2014-04-10 08:17:20 AM

OtherLittleGuy: [media.ticketmaster.com image 305x225]

RIP JOHN PINETTE


Every time I make a salad I have to say "Salad? I'm starving!"

/I know. I sound fat.
 
2014-04-10 08:17:21 AM

The Muthaship: meanmutton: In the Us, women don't pay higher health insurance premiums. That's explicitly illegal. Insurance companies can only use age as a rating factor and even there they can't have their highest age rating be more than 3 times the cost of their lowest age rating. Source: ACA

Stupid facts ruining all that good self-righteousness....


I think you both missed the sarcasm in the statement regarding women paying higher health care premiums.
 
2014-04-10 08:17:23 AM
kmsp.images.worldnow.com

Begs to differ.
 
2014-04-10 08:17:43 AM
The authorette sounds fat.

The Atlantic is getting more and more like Salon
 
2014-04-10 08:18:49 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: The Muthaship: meanmutton: In the Us, women don't pay higher health insurance premiums. That's explicitly illegal. Insurance companies can only use age as a rating factor and even there they can't have their highest age rating be more than 3 times the cost of their lowest age rating. Source: ACA

Stupid facts ruining all that good self-righteousness....

I think you both missed the sarcasm in the statement regarding women paying higher health care premiums.


And, the person completely missed the point of why peeps were mentioning health care premiums, was self righteous about it, then erroneously accused those other people of being self righteous.  It really is a glorious post.
 
2014-04-10 08:19:09 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: I think you both missed the sarcasm in the statement regarding women paying higher health care premiums.


I think that may have been due to its absence.
 
2014-04-10 08:20:39 AM
Subby clearly hasn't met my wife and her sisters. They can bankrupt a buffet.
 
2014-04-10 08:22:26 AM
As a straight white male I'm completely used to paying more than everyone else for the same things, but I'm told that's ok due to the straight white male privilege I enjoy.
 
2014-04-10 08:22:49 AM

Molavian: As a straight white male I'm completely used to paying more than everyone else for the same things, but I'm told that's ok due to the straight white male privilege I enjoy.


Also rape culture.
 
2014-04-10 08:23:02 AM

GORDON: smoky2010: GORDON: smoky2010: Nogale: Businesses aren't, or shouldn't be, stupid. They know how to set prices to cover a profit that changes slightly from customer to customer.

I have long, extremely thick wavy hair. When I go to get it colored, my hairdresser has to use more product than he does with other clients. He doesn't charge me more.

Your hairdresser doesn't charge you as he is overcharging everyone. You're just using closer to what you are paying for.

This is the same way my coffee place affords to give me a free coffee once in a while. I'm paying $1 for a cup, cream, sugar and coffee that only costs about $.10 to produce.

If only ingredients were the only expenses the guy selling you that cup of coffee had... he'd be making a shiatload of profit.

But I am just nitpicking.  Point still stands.

I buy my coffee at cumberland farms. Yes, there is some labor overhead but not much. So, that $.10 coffee may cost $.15. Thanks for keeping me honest.

I don't know what a cumberland farms is.  If I did you might have swayed me.  But I doubt it is a magical place that doesn't have any transportation, taxation, labor, energy, or storage costs.


It a regional convenience store / gas station. If you would like to learn more, go to google, type "Cumberland Farms" into the search bar and press enter.

\The more you know!
 
2014-04-10 08:23:29 AM

The Muthaship: Monkeyhouse Zendo: I think you both missed the sarcasm in the statement regarding women paying higher health care premiums.

I think that may have been due to its absence.


You need to check your detector.
 
2014-04-10 08:24:05 AM
Everytime something like this comes up I flashxback to when I was the boss over an office with eight women and one guy. Generally things went OK but I always  remember the day the guy came into my office and asked,

"Why is it that men and women are equal when it's time to clean the breakroom, but when there's something heavy to lift, I'm the only guy in the office?"
 
2014-04-10 08:24:25 AM

Molavian: As a straight white male I'm completely used to paying more than everyone else for the same things, but I'm told that's ok due to the straight white male privilege I enjoy.


You forgot to check your cishet privilege, shiatlord!
 
2014-04-10 08:24:39 AM

Tommy Moo: I have no problem doing this. Actuarial science is legitimate. If you don't enforce actuary standards, you end up with businesses discouraging certain people from purchasing their products.

However, if we're going to make men pay more for buffets and car insurance, then let's stop whining about women making slightly less money because it costs their employers more to provide health insurance for them.


but equul rites dood!!!11

People have their head up their ass if they truly think the world will ever be equal based on gender.

not saying we shouldn't try, but when people go and write stupid shiat like this article it makes me second guess why bother trying.
 
2014-04-10 08:24:42 AM
Every time something like this comes up I flash back to when I was the boss over an office with eight women and one guy. Generally things went OK but I always  remember the day the guy came into my office and asked,

"Why is it that men and women are equal when it's time to clean the breakroom, but when there's something heavy to lift, I'm the only guy in the office?"
 
2014-04-10 08:24:54 AM
Go be fat somewhere else.
 
2014-04-10 08:25:37 AM

GORDON: Molavian: As a straight white male I'm completely used to paying more than everyone else for the same things, but I'm told that's ok due to the straight white male privilege I enjoy.

Also rape culture.


And testosterone poisoning.
 
2014-04-10 08:26:57 AM
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, do these sound like the actions of a man whose had ALL he could eat?"

/'Tis no man. 'Tis a remorseless eatin' machine!
 
2014-04-10 08:27:03 AM

smoky2010: It a regional convenience store / gas station. If you would like to learn more, go to google, type "Cumberland Farms" into the search bar and press enter.

\The more you know!


Do you get paid every time you say "Cumberland Farms" or something?
 
2014-04-10 08:27:22 AM

reprobate1125: As a kid some of the Amish smorgasbords would charge kids by the pound...as in their weight. It was fun as a little kid but as I got into the tween years it was a little awkward to have people busting out calculators to figure out if they should charge my butt for as a kid or adult.

[www.bitterwallet.com image 410x308]


Shady Maple?

/love their spiced blood "stuff"
 
2014-04-10 08:27:52 AM

Lokkii: Every time something like this comes up I flash back to when I was the boss over an office with eight women and one guy. Generally things went OK but I always  remember the day the guy came into my office and asked,

"Why is it that men and women are equal when it's time to clean the breakroom, but when there's something heavy to lift, I'm the only guy in the office?"


Because women, like men, also know how to work the double standard system.

See? We have equality with intelligence after all.
 
2014-04-10 08:28:30 AM
Some Japanese buffets have similar pricing policies with men paying a few hundred yen more than women.  It was a little odd when I first saw it but, honestly, I see far more shocking things than this on my way to work in the morning.
 
2014-04-10 08:31:02 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: smoky2010: It a regional convenience store / gas station. If you would like to learn more, go to google, type "Cumberland Farms" into the search bar and press enter.

\The more you know!

Do you get paid every time you say "Cumberland Farms" or something?


Yes! My real last name is Cumberland, and I live on a farm.
 
2014-04-10 08:31:14 AM
Yeah, no. My wife isn't fat but can put away way more food than I can.
 
2014-04-10 08:31:41 AM

smoky2010: GORDON: smoky2010: GORDON: smoky2010: Nogale: Businesses aren't, or shouldn't be, stupid. They know how to set prices to cover a profit that changes slightly from customer to customer.

I have long, extremely thick wavy hair. When I go to get it colored, my hairdresser has to use more product than he does with other clients. He doesn't charge me more.

Your hairdresser doesn't charge you as he is overcharging everyone. You're just using closer to what you are paying for.

This is the same way my coffee place affords to give me a free coffee once in a while. I'm paying $1 for a cup, cream, sugar and coffee that only costs about $.10 to produce.

If only ingredients were the only expenses the guy selling you that cup of coffee had... he'd be making a shiatload of profit.

But I am just nitpicking.  Point still stands.

I buy my coffee at cumberland farms. Yes, there is some labor overhead but not much. So, that $.10 coffee may cost $.15. Thanks for keeping me honest.

I don't know what a cumberland farms is.  If I did you might have swayed me.  But I doubt it is a magical place that doesn't have any transportation, taxation, labor, energy, or storage costs.

It a regional convenience store / gas station. If you would like to learn more, go to google, type "Cumberland Farms" into the search bar and press enter.

\The more you know!


So in order to get a good cup of coffee, the first step is to create a gas station called cumberland farms, and that is really inexpensive.... nevermind.  Too tired to continue trolling.  Gonna go get some of the "free" coffee supplied by my employer.

Thanks for playing. ;-)
 
2014-04-10 08:32:01 AM

Tommy Moo: However, if we're going to make men pay more for buffets and car insurance, then let's stop whining about women making slightly less money because it costs their employers more to provide health insurance for them.


Women don't make less money than men for doing the same work, women choose to work fewer hours or do different work. In fact, if you look at the cohort of young, urban, never married, college graduates women currently outearn men by a significant margin.

The wage gap is a myth.
 
2014-04-10 08:32:39 AM

Pathman: So?  A business should be able to charge whatever the hell it wants.  If you don't like it, eat somewhere else.
As it were i'm pretty sure they already have a price structure for people that eat different amounts - it's called the menu.

this article has click-bait written all over it.


....for that matter, these laws requiring businesses to serve those them thar dark people are BS too!
 
2014-04-10 08:34:01 AM

farvour: Because women, like men, also know how to work the double standard system.

See? We have equality with intelligence after all.


I think you misspelled hypocrisy.
 
2014-04-10 08:35:16 AM

Omnis_evil_twin: Some Japanese buffets have similar pricing policies with men paying a few hundred yen more than women.  It was a little odd when I first saw it but, honestly, I see far more shocking things than this on my way to work in the morning.


Truthfully I could care less if I had to pay more for food based on my gender. I already went through that years ago with car insurance as an early 20s gentleman. I think things even out in the end and for every service you provide and charge a man more for, there is another charging women more for. The only thing is the hardcore feminists seem to be OK with this point of view, but anything that makes them pay more than a man for then they get their snuggs in a bundle and claim mysogyny and "womens rights."

It is a double standard and it wont go away from either sex for as long as we continue to procreate.
 
2014-04-10 08:35:31 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Pathman: So?  A business should be able to charge whatever the hell it wants.  If you don't like it, eat somewhere else.

Dinner for white folks: $30
Dinner for colored folks people of color: $200

I trust you can see where your assertion starts to come apart?


yeah, the race card already came up.
Personally i for one think a business should be able to do that...how long do you think a business would last doing that?
i'd rather know if i'm doing business with a bigot or not.

that being said,  race is a protected class.  Gender is protected in terms of wages and hiring practices.
Every now and then you read a story of places cracking down (or trying to crack down) on pricing structures based on gender.

how far do you take it?  Should hairdressers not be allowed charge different rates for women or men?  should they be barred from catering to only one gender?  should half-off drinks/cover charges for women be illegal?

what about kid prices?  age is a protected class.

how much intrusion in the name of "for your own good" should we tolerate?

Obviously this is a philosophical exercise,  i don't really see a huge problem with banning
Dinner for white folks: $30
Dinner for colored folks people of color: $200


but while i'm not sure where that bright line is - i definitely think it's to the left of "it's illegal to charge men more for all you can eat"
 
2014-04-10 08:36:30 AM
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2014-04-10 08:36:53 AM
As long as their is no putting your dick in the mashed potatoes tariff, I think I can live with this.
 
2014-04-10 08:37:33 AM
o.onionstatic.com
 
2014-04-10 08:38:01 AM

Pinko_Commie: [img.fark.net image 454x341]
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, do these sound like the actions of a man whose had ALL he could eat?"

/'Tis no man. 'Tis a remorseless eatin' machine!


That could have been me!
 
2014-04-10 08:40:07 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Tommy Moo: However, if we're going to make men pay more for buffets and car insurance, then let's stop whining about women making slightly less money because it costs their employers more to provide health insurance for them.

Women don't make less money than men for doing the same work, women choose to work fewer hours or do different work. In fact, if you look at the cohort of young, urban, never married, college graduates women currently outearn men by a significant margin.

The wage gap is a myth.


"Women abuse children more often than men do (with a hugely disproportionate amount of it meted out to male children). They're also statistically more likely to the first ones to take a swing in instances of domestic violence. Also, the biggest predictor of anorexia in young women is the presence of a mother who is critical of her daughter's physical appearance."

"Um. . . What are 'Issues feminists never address,' Alex?"
 
2014-04-10 08:40:28 AM

Pathman: Personally i for one think a business should be able to do that...how long do you think a business would last doing that?


I live in Arkansas. In some parts of this state it would last a long farking time.

Pathman: Should hairdressers not be allowed charge different rates for women or men?


Hairdressers charge based on what you're getting done. If you have long hair and are getting a cut and color you're paying $50. If you want "The Don Draper", you're paying $25.

Pathman: but while i'm not sure where that bright line is - i definitely think it's to the left of "it's illegal to charge men more for all you can eat"


Why is that? You've made the assertion but haven't backed it up with evidence or argument.
 
2014-04-10 08:40:57 AM

Pathman: So?  A business should be able to charge whatever the hell it wants.  If you don't like it, eat somewhere else.
As it were i'm pretty sure they already have a price structure for people that eat different amounts - it's called the menu.

this article has click-bait written all over it.


mjfellright.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-10 08:41:24 AM

Pathman: Should hairdressers not be allowed charge different rates for women or men?


white or black hair?
Because that is a difference.
 
2014-04-10 08:43:36 AM
Came for John Pinette.  Leaving satiated, yet sad.

/Why you eat spare rib?  Eat vegetable!
 
2014-04-10 08:43:56 AM
The war on buffets has begun. I've been telling you fat farks for years, that once they got the smokers subdued, your chunky asses were next.
 
2014-04-10 08:44:35 AM

skinink: You been here four hour!


And we're done here
 
2014-04-10 08:46:46 AM

GORDON: But I doubt it is a magical place that doesn't have any transportation, taxation, labor, energy, or storage costs.


Unless you're running a coffee/donut shop, if the revenue generated from the $1 coffee you provide in the lobby has a significant impact on any of those balance sheet items......you're doing it wrong.
 
2014-04-10 08:48:21 AM
TheShavingofOccam123:"Salad? I'm starving!"


Don't read that in John Pinette's voice.

/oops
 
2014-04-10 08:49:38 AM

vudukungfu: markfara: 1) The ones that charge a single price for "all you can eat" attract people with slobbish eating habits and poor hygiene (and fat children who touch the food with their fingers to help them decide if they want it or not).

I've seen skinny kids do it too.
No discipline in children nowadays.
I know who they get that from.


CSB time:

When my (now in his 30's) stepson was about 8, we were at a buffet.  Imagine my horror when I saw him take the spoon from a pan with a sample of the food on it, lick it, and start to return it to the pan.  I never knew I could put down my plate in a safe place, grab his hand, his plate, the spoon, shove them behind me out of the way then grab the pan out of the buffet slot (yes, it was incredibly hot, but I wasn't thinking of that) so that no one could touch it.  Of course I flagged down the nearest waitstaff I could and explained, and apologized, and they promptly replaced the pan with new food.

One of the many times our children can make up move faster than we ever thought possible.

We had a talk over dinner about how that was just not what you did in a public place.

/CSB
 
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