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2014-04-10 03:28:02 AM
Nice.  Now you can see how badly you farked up without getting your boots dirty
 
2014-04-10 03:54:13 AM
Good luck trying to keep the lens clean/nonscratched.

Just another "Gee WOW!" thing that automakers love to tease us with but will NEVER actually install on any production vehicles.
 
2014-04-10 04:07:02 AM
Pretty cool. My personal solution though is not to buy vehicles with giant hoods. But this would be nice.
 
2014-04-10 04:08:51 AM
that is actually pretty farking clever
 
2014-04-10 04:13:38 AM
Rather off-road in a restored '75 Bronco or a '84 CJ7 that's easy to maintain yourself. The engine compartments these days are insane. You don't even want you to be able to change the transmission fluid.
 
2014-04-10 04:31:10 AM
Meh. Clever but who gives a shiat.
 
2014-04-10 04:38:59 AM
Now you can see the look of the hobo's face after you've hit him.
 
2014-04-10 05:55:14 AM
The last time I drove over a dozen dead hookers was... well... never.  I am considerate.  I drive around them.
 
2014-04-10 05:58:41 AM
Too bad it's on a Land Rover... in 6 months the only thing it'll show is old Gilligan's Island reruns and that's only if you're lucky enough to get it started at all.
 
2014-04-10 06:00:41 AM
images.ookaboo.com
 
2014-04-10 06:35:48 AM
at some points it seems the image just shows the sky.
 
2014-04-10 06:38:45 AM

Triumph: Rather off-road in a restored '75 Bronco or a '84 CJ7 that's easy to maintain yourself. The engine compartments these days are insane. They don't even want you to be able to change the transmission fluid.


FTFY, I think.

Also I agree.  It's a disturbing trend in vehicles that I've been noticing, ESPECIALLY off-road vehicles where if something goes tits-up while you're in rough terrain you can't even perform basic repairs.  Even in normal cars though it's pretty bad.  You should not have to have a special brand-specific tool to do basic vehicle maintenance.

I'm at the point where I think we are honestly going to need a vehicle owner's bill of rights to put a stop to shiat like the Prius being designed so that changing the light bulb is supposed to require taking off the whole damn bumper (though you can skip that if you have long thin arms and are willing to fumble by feel).  Unfortunately with the current crop we have in Congress there is no way in hell that would ever get brought up for a vote, much less passed.
 
2014-04-10 07:14:48 AM
Just when you think you've seen everything that auto makers can come up with


Who would think this? Nobody, that's who.
 
2014-04-10 07:59:33 AM
Because people who can Land Rovers are know for their love of off-roading.
 
2014-04-10 08:23:21 AM
Meh.  Call me when they do this with the floor mats.
 
2014-04-10 08:50:03 AM

mudpants: Meh.  Call me when they do this with the floor mats.


You get that free after 20 years when your jeep's floorboards rot out

HUD ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
 
2014-04-10 08:52:48 AM
I like this.
Tho I think its a matter of time before someone wires up an augmented reality Oculus and makes the entire cab "see through".
 
2014-04-10 08:58:52 AM
This'll make rearend accident aftermaths a bit more interesting...
 
2014-04-10 09:33:15 AM

Dr Jack Badofsky: This'll make rearend accident aftermaths a bit more interesting...


Hmm, I wonder if the cameras store the images.  Could be cool to download them and post online to show what crazy stunts you've pulled.  Or you could use it in accident cases like dash cameras are.
 
2014-04-10 09:33:39 AM

abhorrent1: Because people who can Land Rovers are know for their love of off-roading.


Please seek immediate medical assistance.  You appear to be having a stroke.
 
2014-04-10 09:33:53 AM

yukichigai: Triumph: Rather off-road in a restored '75 Bronco or a '84 CJ7 that's easy to maintain yourself. The engine compartments these days are insane. They don't even want you to be able to change the transmission fluid.

FTFY, I think.

Also I agree.  It's a disturbing trend in vehicles that I've been noticing, ESPECIALLY off-road vehicles where if something goes tits-up while you're in rough terrain you can't even perform basic repairs.  Even in normal cars though it's pretty bad.  You should not have to have a special brand-specific tool to do basic vehicle maintenance.

I'm at the point where I think we are honestly going to need a vehicle owner's bill of rights to put a stop to shiat like the Prius being designed so that changing the light bulb is supposed to require taking off the whole damn bumper (though you can skip that if you have long thin arms and are willing to fumble by feel).  Unfortunately with the current crop we have in Congress there is no way in hell that would ever get brought up for a vote, much less passed.


I think Massachusetts recently passed, or at least introduced legislation like that.

Also, these people...

http://righttorepair.org/main/default.aspx

(Linking from phone lets see if this works)
 
2014-04-10 09:39:23 AM

Oliver Twisted: abhorrent1: Because people who can Land Rovers are know for their love of off-roading.

Please seek immediate medical assistance.  You appear to be having a stroke.


I accidentally afford
 
2014-04-10 09:41:36 AM
This tech will come in handy for parking close to other things or avoiding road debris. Sweet tech if you ask me even if it isn't needed by most people.
 
2014-04-10 09:47:11 AM

jjwars1: This tech will come in handy for parking close to other things or avoiding road debris. Sweet tech if you ask me even if it isn't needed by most people.


Most people suck at driving SUV's.
Its needed because they've got no idea where their tires are in relation to anything.
 
2014-04-10 10:04:00 AM
Cool tech.
If you're ever at an event and the Land Rover Experience is there you should partake. It's pretty fun.
 
2014-04-10 10:13:20 AM

yukichigai: Triumph: Rather off-road in a restored '75 Bronco or a '84 CJ7 that's easy to maintain yourself. The engine compartments these days are insane. They don't even want you to be able to change the transmission fluid.

FTFY, I think.

Also I agree.  It's a disturbing trend in vehicles that I've been noticing, ESPECIALLY off-road vehicles where if something goes tits-up while you're in rough terrain you can't even perform basic repairs.  Even in normal cars though it's pretty bad.  You should not have to have a special brand-specific tool to do basic vehicle maintenance.

I'm at the point where I think we are honestly going to need a vehicle owner's bill of rights to put a stop to shiat like the Prius being designed so that changing the light bulb is supposed to require taking off the whole damn bumper (though you can skip that if you have long thin arms and are willing to fumble by feel).  Unfortunately with the current crop we have in Congress there is no way in hell that would ever get brought up for a vote, much less passed.


As technology progresses, the design becomes more complex. They are eeking out more power with greater fuel economy in the same space constraints and massively increased safety and other load increases, related to features.

It's stupid to assume it's some kind of conspiracy. Of course there is some aspect of 'we want you to take it to a dealer for everything, but mostly a simple examination of design vs features shows...that.

If you want an off-road vehicle you can self repair, a pure mechanical vehicle is going to be ideal, not a modern vehicle. That's just common sense. They were designed with different goals in mind, and that goal matches well with your current goal.
 
2014-04-10 10:16:51 AM

Triumph: Rather off-road in a restored '75 Bronco or a '84 CJ7 that's easy to maintain yourself. The engine compartments these days are insane. You don't even want you to be able to change the transmission fluid.


Yep... I can't even make sense of what's under the hood anymore, and you have to do stupid shiat to replace parts that go out regularly. This has been going on since the 90s. It would take 45 minutes to replace the thermostat in my wife's Sentra(down from 2 1/2 hours the first time)because you couldn't reach the goddam thing. I have a buddy who had a nen for years, he had to remove the passenger's side tire and other stuff to get at the starter. I know someone who mentioned that they have to do the same to get at the battery in their car. It's ridiculous. When I get my next Jeep, it's either going to be a CJ, or a Wrangler no newer than about '95. It's nice to be able to crawl under your own hood and fix the thing.
 
2014-04-10 10:19:05 AM
What a transparent bonnet may look like...

3.bp.blogspot.com't++I'm+Mormon.bmp
 
2014-04-10 10:31:16 AM
My sister in law will still drive 2 feet on to my grass when picking up her kids... I'm not even sure guardrails on the sides of my driveway would stop her.
 
2014-04-10 10:31:22 AM
A father was showing off the new BMW he'd just purchased to his son, with all the bells and whistles, while the son asked about specific things on the car. Pointing to the front of the car, the son asked "What are those?" and the father said "those are washer nozzles to clean the headlights if they get dirty."
"Wow" the son says, "That would be helpful. But what's this?" he asked, pointing to spots on the rear bumper. "Those are sensors that tell me when I'm backing up, so I don't hit anything."
"Wow," the son says, "That'd be super helpful too." As the father loads up his gym and golf bag before heading off, the son pokes around in the trunk, and opens the golf bag and pulls out a tee, and asks "Well, what's this?
"Oh, that's called a tee. You put your balls on them before you're ready to drive."
The son, shocked, exclaims "WOW! Those Germans sure do think of everything!"
 
2014-04-10 10:39:53 AM
Already been done.
images.thecarconnection.com
 
2014-04-10 11:35:31 AM
This is clearly Puppeteer technology. Their first attempt to find a market for their General Products hulls.
 
2014-04-10 12:10:31 PM

yukichigai: Triumph: Rather off-road in a restored '75 Bronco or a '84 CJ7 that's easy to maintain yourself. The engine compartments these days are insane. They don't even want you to be able to change the transmission fluid.

FTFY, I think.

Also I agree.  It's a disturbing trend in vehicles that I've been noticing, ESPECIALLY off-road vehicles where if something goes tits-up while you're in rough terrain you can't even perform basic repairs.  Even in normal cars though it's pretty bad.  You should not have to have a special brand-specific tool to do basic vehicle maintenance.

I'm at the point where I think we are honestly going to need a vehicle owner's bill of rights to put a stop to shiat like the Prius being designed so that changing the light bulb is supposed to require taking off the whole damn bumper (though you can skip that if you have long thin arms and are willing to fumble by feel).  Unfortunately with the current crop we have in Congress there is no way in hell that would ever get brought up for a vote, much less passed.


It's not that electronic stuff isn't fixable, it's just not fixable unless you know about electronic stuff.  You have to carry different tools and different parts and you have to have some clue about what the system is supposed to be doing.  Lots of the old guys have never bothered to learn the electronic stuff and are relegated to thinking that it's all terrible because they don't understand it.
 
2014-04-10 01:33:54 PM

yukichigai: Unfortunately with the current crop we have in Congress there is no way in hell that would ever get brought up for a vote, much less passed.


The people attracted to politics are control freak ruler wannabees as it is.  These are the sorts of people who wanted to be class president before they had a single good thought in their heads.  We shouldn't encourage them.
 
2014-04-10 01:52:43 PM
Still waiting for shields to prevent minor dings and dents or healing materials.
 
2014-04-10 02:24:10 PM

Best Princess Celestia: Still waiting for shields to prevent minor dings and dents or healing materials.


One of those have been in development for a few years:

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/car-tech/scientists-show-off-car-pa in t-that-can-heal-itself-583490
 
2014-04-10 02:28:31 PM

stupiddream: Dr Jack Badofsky: This'll make rearend accident aftermaths a bit more interesting...

Hmm, I wonder if the cameras store the images.  Could be cool to download them and post online to show what crazy stunts you've pulled.  Or you could use it in accident cases like dash cameras are.


Well, Jeremy Clarkson did prove that the cameras in his test Rover meant he could eliminate his camera crew...
 
2014-04-10 03:54:18 PM

kroonermanblack: As technology progresses, the design becomes more complex. They are eeking out more power with greater fuel economy in the same space constraints and massively increased safety and other load increases, related to features.

It's stupid to assume it's some kind of conspiracy. Of course there is some aspect of 'we want you to take it to a dealer for everything, but mostly a simple examination of design vs features shows...that.

If you want an off-road vehicle you can self repair, a pure mechanical vehicle is going to be ideal, not a modern vehicle. That's just common sense. They were designed with different goals in mind, and that goal matches well with your current goal.


Explodo: It's not that electronic stuff isn't fixable, it's just not fixable unless you know about electronic stuff. You have to carry different tools and different parts and you have to have some clue about what the system is supposed to be doing. Lots of the old guys have never bothered to learn the electronic stuff and are relegated to thinking that it's all terrible because they don't understand it.


Alright, both of you seem to think I'm talking about things that are way more complex than what I actually was referring to.  I'm not complaining about, say, replacing a fuel injector or even changing the spark plugs.  I'm referring to BASIC vehicle maintenance operations that manufacturers are making impossible to do without special tools and/or special knowledge and/or voiding your warrantee if you do it yourself.  Real examples:

- Changing or filling transmission fluid
- Changing or filling oil
- Flushing or sometimes even filling the radiator
- Replacing headlights/tail lights/indicator lights/fog lights
- Aiming your headlights
- Replacing the air filter

For all of the above there is ZERO possible justification for making those off-limits to the consumer, as these are all very basic maintenance tasks that may need to be done on short notice in order for the vehicle to be safe to drive.  You don't need to make the headlight adjustment impossible to get at just because of electronics or a more cramped engine compartment.
 
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