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2014-04-09 08:13:20 PM
Oops.
 
2014-04-09 10:30:57 PM
This update was supposed to be a required baseline for all future updates.

Don't install this update ==> You won't receive any future patches
Install this update ==> You won't receive any future patches
 
2014-04-09 11:16:25 PM
If you're an enterprise using WSUS you have bigger issues.  WSUS is NOT an Enterprise inventory/patch management system.  If you're a SMB, it's fine...
 
2014-04-10 12:32:11 AM
My guess is, Microsoft is pretending there are WSUS issues so people will think Enterprises are actually using Windows 8.
 
2014-04-10 02:58:19 AM
wsussies
 
2014-04-10 03:46:22 AM
I like W8.1.1, but yesterday I had trouble getting updates after a W8 DVD reinstall. it took about 4 hours and 6 tries to get it.
/Microsoft's server were getting smashed by auto updates to 8.1.1
 
2014-04-10 04:19:47 AM
I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.
 
2014-04-10 04:24:06 AM
M$ is apparently not too big to fail.
 
2014-04-10 05:42:31 AM
img.fark.net

Good. Fark Windows 8. And now third-party retards are adopting Win 8's asinine design scheme.
 
2014-04-10 07:02:06 AM
My Windows 8.1 has not been updated since November, gets an error when I try.
I've checked every single page on the internet and tried every possible solution offered.

The only thing left to do is re-install Windows , and I really don't want to do that since I'd have to reinstall a lot of software.  But I am concerned about virus patches.  I'm hoping somehow this gets fixed on the server side and my updates start working.  So this is not a good sign.

 
2014-04-10 07:10:43 AM

Mumbler: My Windows 8.1 has not been updated since November, gets an error when I try.
I've checked every single page on the internet and tried every possible solution offered.

The only thing left to do is re-install Windows , and I really don't want to do that since I'd have to reinstall a lot of software.  But I am concerned about virus patches.  I'm hoping somehow this gets fixed on the server side and my updates start working.  So this is not a good sign.


Did you run the Microsoft Windows Update troubleshooter?
 
2014-04-10 07:13:22 AM
 
2014-04-10 07:23:02 AM
notto:
Did you run the Microsoft Windows Update troubleshooter?

Many times.  It says it fixed a problem but when I try the update I still get the 80244FFF error.
Every once in a while I try something new to fix it.  I'm suspecting a driver issue - the system is pretty clean so it might be possible to pick and choose drivers on startup.  But it's a pain and there are many other on the internet complaining about it, with no solution.

Not really here to complain about my own problem but it's interesting to hear the MS itself is having update problems.
I've always wondered if someday some Windows update ends up bricking millions of PCs.  I'd hate to be the guy that let that one out.
 
2014-04-10 07:43:08 AM
There are companies that actually run Windows 8? Why?
 
2014-04-10 08:03:28 AM

jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.


I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.
 
2014-04-10 08:13:28 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.


Oh, indeed. I've got nothing bad to say about the actual OS that's buried beneath all this crap. Fast, smooth, MUCH better file transfers and networking, and according to people who are smarter than me, pretty secure. That part is all tickety-boo.
But the user interface, as applied to a monitor/mouse/keyboard configuration, is insane. I've managed to tweak things into usability without using any 3rd party apps (had bad luck with one I tried), but I still get sucked into the metro interface at random, and usually inconvenient times. I was kind of hoping/wishing that 8.1.1 would do more - maybe I should take a second look at some 3rd party apps. I don't know - the whole thing is some. trying to create a one-size-fits-all interface for touch and traditional devices was madness.
 
2014-04-10 08:15:41 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.


You've never installed plain Ubuntu have you?  fark Unity and Gnome Shell.  Maybe they're better now, haven't used either in over a year, but I like my clicky, click, click XFCE with a right click start menu.

Unity is the second reason I won't go Ubuntu, the first is I'd rather use Debian, or what Ubuntu is based on.  Ubuntu is Debian with training wheels.
 
2014-04-10 08:18:54 AM

jso2897: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.

Oh, indeed. I've got nothing bad to say about the actual OS that's buried beneath all this crap. Fast, smooth, MUCH better file transfers and networking, and according to people who are smarter than me, pretty secure. That part is all tickety-boo.
But the user interface, as applied to a monitor/mouse/keyboard configuration, is insane. I've managed to tweak things into usability without using any 3rd party apps (had bad luck with one I tried), but I still get sucked into the metro interface at random, and usually inconvenient times. I was kind of hoping/wishing that 8.1.1 would do more - maybe I should take a second look at some 3rd party apps. I don't know - the whole thing is some. trying to create a one-size-fits-all interface for touch and traditional devices was madness.


Classic Shell.  Did wonders for me.  Its Settings UI isn't the greatest, but it's sufficient; and once configured it's like Windows 7 only better.....Well, mine's closer to XP or 2000 because I like the old style start menu.
 
2014-04-10 08:21:52 AM

skeevy420: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.

You've never installed plain Ubuntu have you?  fark Unity and Gnome Shell.  Maybe they're better now, haven't used either in over a year, but I like my clicky, click, click XFCE with a right click start menu.

Unity is the second reason I won't go Ubuntu, the first is I'd rather use Debian, or what Ubuntu is based on.  Ubuntu is Debian with training wheels.


If you want Debian with training wheels, Mint is the way to go. No unity, KDE version for Gnome-haterz, and most things set up logically for a home user. F^^k Ubuntu - the Canonical community have gone insane.
 
2014-04-10 08:26:52 AM

jso2897: If you want Debian with training wheels, Mint is the way to go. No unity, KDE version for Gnome-haterz, and most things set up logically for a home user. F^^k Ubuntu - the Canonical community have gone insane.


This sort of thing is why businesses still use Windows.  I wonder how many Linux users you'd have to stick in the same room before you found two who could agree on what distro/UI of Linux people should be using.
 
2014-04-10 08:30:37 AM

jso2897: skeevy420: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.

You've never installed plain Ubuntu have you?  fark Unity and Gnome Shell.  Maybe they're better now, haven't used either in over a year, but I like my clicky, click, click XFCE with a right click start menu.

Unity is the second reason I won't go Ubuntu, the first is I'd rather use Debian, or what Ubuntu is based on.  Ubuntu is Debian with training wheels.

If you want Debian with training wheels, Mint is the way to go. No unity, KDE version for Gnome-haterz, and most things set up logically for a home user. F^^k Ubuntu - the Canonical community have gone insane.


Agreed, that's what I installed on my Mom's laptop.  Oddly enough, videos that were choppy on the default XP ran just fine with Mint ***something about bloat and background services and Microsoft hitting kittens with hammers goes here***

But I'm a 10 year Linux user.....Debian Testing is my distro of choice.  I loved Mint's LMDE until they ditched it, but there's the SolydXK projects that started as fan forks of LMDE that are up-to-date and essentially what someone would be using if LMDE was still around.
 
2014-04-10 08:31:29 AM

skeevy420: Classic Shell. Did wonders for me. Its Settings UI isn't the greatest, but it's sufficient; and once configured it's like Windows 7 only better.....Well, mine's closer to XP or 2000 because I like the old style start menu.


I'm pretty sure that was the one I tried - I didn't care for it - it seemed to slow things down, and more importantly, it didn't get rid of the Metro apps - my main problem. Every time I open a new filetype, I still had to set the default to  regular app.
I may just stay with the way things are - I can live with what I've got.
I'll get over it.
 
2014-04-10 08:39:05 AM

syrynxx: jso2897: If you want Debian with training wheels, Mint is the way to go. No unity, KDE version for Gnome-haterz, and most things set up logically for a home user. F^^k Ubuntu - the Canonical community have gone insane.

This sort of thing is why businesses still use Windows.  I wonder how many Linux users you'd have to stick in the same room before you found two who could agree on what distro/UI of Linux people should be using.


That's because different distros have different needs.  New users need to stick to Ubuntu/Mint or one of the top tier distros like Fedora, Mageia, & Suse.  Debian, Arch, Slackware, Gen/Funtoo, and a lot of others are either for advanced Linux users, users with specific needs, or geeks wanting to play around.  Debian might be able to be included in the first list, didn't include it because I haven't used its GUI installer in a long time, and the last time I used it it wasn't very noob friendly.  GParted is the only GUI app I use when installing a distro....yeah, I can fdisk it up, but a GUI for disk partitioning is nice.
 
2014-04-10 08:48:24 AM

jso2897: skeevy420: Classic Shell. Did wonders for me. Its Settings UI isn't the greatest, but it's sufficient; and once configured it's like Windows 7 only better.....Well, mine's closer to XP or 2000 because I like the old style start menu.

I'm pretty sure that was the one I tried - I didn't care for it - it seemed to slow things down, and more importantly, it didn't get rid of the Metro apps - my main problem. Every time I open a new filetype, I still had to set the default to  regular app.
I may just stay with the way things are - I can live with what I've got.
I'll get over it.


I had, and still have, some of those problems.  The file type/Metro crap is something you have to just deal with until you finally have them all set up right since 8 defaults a lot of crap as Metro....or, you know, uninstall all the Metro apps.  No Metro apps installed = No Metro UI to mess with you.....in theory at least.....it is Windows after all.  Your Metro app issue wasn't a Classic Shell problem as much as it was you not changing the default app assigned to various file types....I'm lazy and haven't done it either.....kinda being schizo and talking to myself in that last sentence.

I haven't noticed any slowdowns with Classic Shell, at all, and my PC isn't the best.  2.65ghz quad core (OC'd from 2.4), 8GB of ddr2-667 (UC'd from ddr2-800, causes crashes at full speed), no ssd's, and an AMD R7 260x.

I should probably get around to installing the latest 8.1 update.  I like to wait a week or two and let the early adopters get screwed.....if they get screwed.
 
2014-04-10 08:53:25 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.


The Charms bar? Disabling that is a Classic Shell setting, no need to go to the registry. 'Classic Menu Settings', 'Windows 8.1 Settings', 'Disable active corners', 'All'.
 
2014-04-10 08:59:17 AM

skeevy420: jso2897: skeevy420: Classic Shell. Did wonders for me. Its Settings UI isn't the greatest, but it's sufficient; and once configured it's like Windows 7 only better.....Well, mine's closer to XP or 2000 because I like the old style start menu.

I'm pretty sure that was the one I tried - I didn't care for it - it seemed to slow things down, and more importantly, it didn't get rid of the Metro apps - my main problem. Every time I open a new filetype, I still had to set the default to  regular app.
I may just stay with the way things are - I can live with what I've got.
I'll get over it.

I had, and still have, some of those problems.  The file type/Metro crap is something you have to just deal with until you finally have them all set up right since 8 defaults a lot of crap as Metro....or, you know, uninstall all the Metro apps.  No Metro apps installed = No Metro UI to mess with you.....in theory at least.....it is Windows after all.  Your Metro app issue wasn't a Classic Shell problem as much as it was you not changing the default app assigned to various file types....I'm lazy and haven't done it either.....kinda being schizo and talking to myself in that last sentence.

I haven't noticed any slowdowns with Classic Shell, at all, and my PC isn't the best.  2.65ghz quad core (OC'd from 2.4), 8GB of ddr2-667 (UC'd from ddr2-800, causes crashes at full speed), no ssd's, and an AMD R7 260x.

I should probably get around to installing the latest 8.1 update.  I like to wait a week or two and let the early adopters get screwed.....if they get screwed.


I've just installed 8.1 Update and under Classic shell there's hardly any difference. Metro apps now have a Close and Minimise button top right, like a proper desktop window, but they only appear when you move the mouse to the top. The Start button is now a Window icon. It added a Windows Store button to the taskbar, which I removed. And you can right click Metro tiles in the Metro Start menu. That's about it really.
No issues, didn't even have to reinstall Classic Shell as their FAQ suggested I would need to.
 
2014-04-10 09:13:20 AM
Who's using Windows 8 in an enterprise environment? Patching must be a biatch with so many vulnerabilities.
 
2014-04-10 09:15:53 AM
So no more ALT+F4 when metro pops up as well as close and minimize buttons....I'm OK with this.jpg.

The rest, don't use Widows Store or the Metro/Tiles desktop so they don't matter, but I guess the right clickers are happy (it made me go WTF on my first boot).
 
2014-04-10 09:24:35 AM

skeevy420: So no more ALT+F4 when metro pops up as well as close and minimize buttons....I'm OK with this.jpg.

The rest, don't use Widows Store or the Metro/Tiles desktop so they don't matter, but I guess the right clickers are happy (it made me go WTF on my first boot).


Yeah the Alt-F4 for Metro apps was annoying as shiat.
 
2014-04-10 09:30:28 AM

redmid17: skeevy420: So no more ALT+F4 when metro pops up as well as close and minimize buttons....I'm OK with this.jpg.

The rest, don't use Widows Store or the Metro/Tiles desktop so they don't matter, but I guess the right clickers are happy (it made me go WTF on my first boot).

Yeah the Alt-F4 for Metro apps was annoying as shiat.


Now if only setting BF4 to a high priority wasn't:
CTRL+ALT+DEL
Click Task Manager
Click over to Details
Find App
Right Click it
Set Priority
Back to game....

Normally I'd set up some sort of script for that, but the way the game is launched from a web browser....really sucks not knowing Windows like I do Debian.
 
2014-04-10 09:39:00 AM

skeevy420: jso2897: skeevy420: Classic Shell. Did wonders for me. Its Settings UI isn't the greatest, but it's sufficient; and once configured it's like Windows 7 only better.....Well, mine's closer to XP or 2000 because I like the old style start menu.

I'm pretty sure that was the one I tried - I didn't care for it - it seemed to slow things down, and more importantly, it didn't get rid of the Metro apps - my main problem. Every time I open a new filetype, I still had to set the default to  regular app.
I may just stay with the way things are - I can live with what I've got.
I'll get over it.

I had, and still have, some of those problems.  The file type/Metro crap is something you have to just deal with until you finally have them all set up right since 8 defaults a lot of crap as Metro....or, you know, uninstall all the Metro apps.  No Metro apps installed = No Metro UI to mess with you.....in theory at least.....it is Windows after all.  Your Metro app issue wasn't a Classic Shell problem as much as it was you not changing the default app assigned to various file types....I'm lazy and haven't done it either.....kinda being schizo and talking to myself in that last sentence.

I haven't noticed any slowdowns with Classic Shell, at all, and my PC isn't the best.  2.65ghz quad core (OC'd from 2.4), 8GB of ddr2-667 (UC'd from ddr2-800, causes crashes at full speed), no ssd's, and an AMD R7 260x.

I should probably get around to installing the latest 8.1 update.  I like to wait a week or two and let the early adopters get screwed.....if they get screwed.


No, no...I've been doing it. Every time I find a filetype that defaults to a Metro app, i fix it. I haven't actually uninstalled any of the Metro apps. Not sure i want to do that at this point. Anyway, it's not a huge deal, but it's just one more dumb thing i had to figure out.
 
2014-04-10 09:41:58 AM

Flint Ironstag: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.

The Charms bar? Disabling that is a Classic Shell setting, no need to go to the registry. 'Classic Menu Settings', 'Windows 8.1 Settings', 'Disable active corners', 'All'.


img.fark.net

Nope. Could not get Classic Shell to get rid of these, even with the hot corners disabled.
 
2014-04-10 10:00:40 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Flint Ironstag: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.

The Charms bar? Disabling that is a Classic Shell setting, no need to go to the registry. 'Classic Menu Settings', 'Windows 8.1 Settings', 'Disable active corners', 'All'.

[img.fark.net image 316x210]

Nope. Could not get Classic Shell to get rid of these, even with the hot corners disabled.


Those? They appeared after a fresh install and once I click on them I never saw them again. They're only for new users who didn't know there was a feature there. There's something wrong if they keep on appearing.
 
2014-04-10 10:02:53 AM

syrynxx: jso2897: If you want Debian with training wheels, Mint is the way to go. No unity, KDE version for Gnome-haterz, and most things set up logically for a home user. F^^k Ubuntu - the Canonical community have gone insane.

This sort of thing is why businesses still use Windows.  I wonder how many Linux users you'd have to stick in the same room before you found two who could agree on what distro/UI of Linux people should be using.


If a company just picked a distro/UI and said this is what you get, its the same thing as windows.  There really is no choice there, you get what you get with MS.

Problem solved..  or not
 
2014-04-10 10:07:11 AM

Flint Ironstag: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Flint Ironstag: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.

The Charms bar? Disabling that is a Classic Shell setting, no need to go to the registry. 'Classic Menu Settings', 'Windows 8.1 Settings', 'Disable active corners', 'All'.

[img.fark.net image 316x210]

Nope. Could not get Classic Shell to get rid of these, even with the hot corners disabled.

Those? They appeared after a fresh install and once I click on them I never saw them again. They're only for new users who didn't know there was a feature there. There's something wrong if they keep on appearing.


Agree only seen them twice after a reinstall
 
2014-04-10 10:08:36 AM
So... Do I wait for SP1 or SP2 before I buy new hardware? I don't think my workstation will last to Win9.
 
2014-04-10 10:11:38 AM

Ed Grubermann: Good. Fark Windows 8. And now third-party retards are adopting Win 8's asinine design scheme.


Windows 8 didn't introduce this scheme, just their version of it. Tiles are gaining popularity everywhere in computing because computer users are getting dumber, at least when it comes to computer use. Blocky, colorful tiles minimize information density and provide large, clear divisions between disparate pieces of information. Lists, on the other hand, maximize information while providing a more complex structure that requires a little bit more effort to grasp the first few times you see them.

It's a side-effect of generations that grew up with texting and Twitter and Geek Squad. They don't really understand how computers work, don't want to and won't try. On top of that, they're used to getting "information" in very short, low-value bursts. Details elude them and they're used to it.

This aggravates the fogies among us - myself included - who primarily use computers as a means of maximizing our information processing. We see the tiles and we see no detail and we say "WTF is that bullshiat, it doesn't even SAY anything! And it's name covers such a broad category it could mean almost anything!"

Whether this approach is superior or not remains to be seen. It aggravates the fark out of me though. I want maximal functionality in a small part of my screen, not minimal functionality covering all of it for god's sake. I'm sitting at a work computer, not a damned fast food order terminal...

/ haven't been back to NBC's website since they went to tiles
// kind of happy for that tiles or otherwise, frankly
 
2014-04-10 10:14:58 AM

wildcardjack: So... Do I wait for SP1 or SP2 before I buy new hardware? I don't think my workstation will last to Win9.


I was on a budget and bought hardware for Vista and 7, except the graphics card since I bought an R7 cheap during Christmas specials, and my PC is working just fine.  If the hardware you plan to get has 8 drivers then just upgrade now...or wait for the Summer sales trying to clear out crap for the next Holiday season.  It's what I'm doing for Skyrim and an SSD...
 
2014-04-10 10:36:10 AM
So I did a good thing by stopping at Windows 7 ?
 
2014-04-10 11:03:25 AM
After long denigrating Windiws 8, I'm actually starting to warm up to it now that I've tried using it once I figured out right-clicking on the "Windows" button on the Desktop.
 
2014-04-10 11:03:52 AM

Mumbler: My Windows 8.1 has not been updated since November, gets an error when I try.
I've checked every single page on the internet and tried every possible solution offered.

The only thing left to do is re-install Windows , and I really don't want to do that since I'd have to reinstall a lot of software.  But I am concerned about virus patches.  I'm hoping somehow this gets fixed on the server side and my updates start working.  So this is not a good sign.


Did you try the "refresh windows" option that effectively reinstall windows without deleting your installs?  Did you ask Microsoft tech support directly, instead of trolling random forums?
 
2014-04-10 11:10:17 AM

skeevy420: The file type/Metro crap is something you have to just deal with until you finally have them all set up right since 8 defaults a lot of crap as Metro


In Windows 7 and earlier, you wouldn't have any applications associated with most of the Metro apps to begin with.

PDFs, for example, do not have a built in viewer before 8 anyway.  The only thing I can think of would be Windows Media Player.
 
2014-04-10 11:11:05 AM

Cubansaltyballs: My guess is, Microsoft is pretending there are WSUS issues so people will think Enterprises are actually using Windows 8.


LoL - I'm sure this affects tens of users.
 
2014-04-10 11:18:37 AM
People who can't figure out Windows 8 are admitting they can be confused by squares.
 
2014-04-10 11:59:51 AM

GoldSpider: After long denigrating Windiws 8, I'm actually starting to warm up to it now that I've tried using it once I figured out right-clicking on the "Windows" button on the Desktop.

Amazing. When people actually use the product, vs. reading what know-nothing Linux and mainframe neckbeards biatch about - they actually like it
oneofus.net
 
2014-04-10 12:10:03 PM

Marine1: People who can't figure out Windows 8 are admitting they can be confused by squares.


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2014-04-10 12:53:51 PM

Mumbler: notto:
Did you run the Microsoft Windows Update troubleshooter?

Many times.  It says it fixed a problem but when I try the update I still get the 80244FFF error.
Every once in a while I try something new to fix it.  I'm suspecting a driver issue - the system is pretty clean so it might be possible to pick and choose drivers on startup.  But it's a pain and there are many other on the internet complaining about it, with no solution.

Not really here to complain about my own problem but it's interesting to hear the MS itself is having update problems.
I've always wondered if someday some Windows update ends up bricking millions of PCs.  I'd hate to be the guy that let that one out.


Did you try to use the system restore to restore it back to a point where you know the updates worked? I have seen this a lot, and it seems that an update conflicted with some software and corrupted a bunch of DLL files. Going back to a restore fixes the DLL files, and you can update again.
 
2014-04-10 02:55:50 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Flint Ironstag: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.

The Charms bar? Disabling that is a Classic Shell setting, no need to go to the registry. 'Classic Menu Settings', 'Windows 8.1 Settings', 'Disable active corners', 'All'.


Nope. Could not get Classic Shell to get rid of these, even with the hot corners disabled.


You have to do what they want you to do, once.  Then they never come back.
 
2014-04-10 03:18:58 PM

thrasherrr: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Flint Ironstag: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jso2897: I installed a lot of updates yesterday, but it doesn't really look or act much different. If you click on the "start" symbol, you still get a completely incoherent page of stoopid tiles that blow up into full page soeak n' spell looking apps. It's pretty much the same shiat. Still garbage.

I just picked up a new notebook last week with Win 8.1.
Installed Classic Shell. Went into the registry and added instructions to remove the annoying 'tips' bar that likes to pop out from the side and get in the way. Now it looks and behaves like Windows 7, but with faster boot times.

People should not have to do things such as this to make a workable UI in a new, non-tablet computer.
This is why Windows 8 is getting such a bad rap.

The Charms bar? Disabling that is a Classic Shell setting, no need to go to the registry. 'Classic Menu Settings', 'Windows 8.1 Settings', 'Disable active corners', 'All'.


Nope. Could not get Classic Shell to get rid of these, even with the hot corners disabled.

You have to do what they want you to do, once.  Then they never come back.


So kind of like Jehovah Witnesses?
 
2014-04-10 07:48:28 PM

MrSteve007: GoldSpider: After long denigrating Windiws 8, I'm actually starting to warm up to it now that I've tried using it once I figured out right-clicking on the "Windows" button on the Desktop.
Amazing. When people actually use the product, vs. reading what know-nothing Linux and mainframe neckbeards biatch about - they actually like it
[oneofus.net image 371x194]


Way to generalize skippy.  One person responds that after he figured out how to use it, he is warming up to it, and you go all ape shiat on how everyone needs to do this.  Like others have not...
The standard KDE layout is very similar to windows 7 and earlier.  So maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and stop sucking Gates wiener...
 
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