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(Talking Points Memo)   Republican state senator continues outreach to women, compares getting abortions to buying new carpeting. No word on if he cares whether the carpet matches the drapes   ( talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line
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2014-04-09 04:56:11 PM  
From his point of view: I spend this time making a major purchase decision; don't you think women should expend just as much time (if not more) making a decision about a life?

From a rational person: a woman making the decision has already gone through that process. What? You think that a woman being forced to see an ultrasound and wait three days is gonna say to herself, oh shiat! There's like a baby forming in me! I didn't know that! No. What you're really forcing them to spend three days realizing that a segment of the population would rather shame them into submission than carry on with the decision that they've already made.
 
2014-04-09 04:57:11 PM  
State Rep. Chuck Gatschenberger (R) explained to his colleagues on the Missouri House's Children, Families and Persons with Disabilities committee that when he goes to buy a new vehicle, he doesn't just make a snap decision.

Because without the members of the Republican Party watching over them, women won't actually bother to think about what they're doing.

/talk about "big government", sheesh...
 
2014-04-09 04:58:02 PM  
Where is the law that mandates customers must go to the store, look at swatches and then return three days later before being allowed to purchase carpeting?
 
2014-04-09 04:58:47 PM  
Actually it's just like electing a Republican state senator

/either way you're getting an abortion
 
2014-04-09 05:00:36 PM  
Shag carpeting, presumably.
 
2014-04-09 05:01:40 PM  

JohnnyApocalypse: From his point of view: I spend this time making a major purchase decision; don't you think women should expend just as much time (if not more) making a decision about a life?

From a rational person: a woman making the decision has already gone through that process. What? You think that a woman being forced to see an ultrasound and wait three days is gonna say to herself, oh shiat! There's like a baby forming in me! I didn't know that! No. What you're really forcing them to spend three days realizing that a segment of the population would rather shame them into submission than carry on with the decision that they've already made.


They're just hoping that low income women won't be able to take the consecutive days off work/travel out of town/out of state to get the medical care they need.  Despicable.
 
2014-04-09 05:05:59 PM  
defended his measure Tuesday, suggesting a woman getting an abortion should treat it with the same deliberation as shopping for cars or carpeting.

I can't tell whether Subby took offense to this because he thinks that's too much deliberation, or not enough.

/ Farking abortion salesman, tacking on bullshiat extra fees like rust proof uterine lining.
 
2014-04-09 05:07:58 PM  

serial_crusher: defended his measure Tuesday, suggesting a woman getting an abortion should treat it with the same deliberation as shopping for cars or carpeting.

I can't tell whether Subby took offense to this because he thinks that's too much deliberation, or not enough.

/ Farking abortion salesman, tacking on bullshiat extra fees like rust proof uterine lining.


And then you get out of the lot, and BAM, uterus falls right out.
 
2014-04-09 05:08:36 PM  
"Your comments were extremely offensive to every single woman sitting in here, whether they're pregnant or whether they're not. I want to point that out, because that kind of attitude is demeaning to women, regardless of what they decide to do."

Maybe women need to stop being so emotionally fragile if every single one of them feels demeaned by this guy's take on a decision that many of them will never ever have to make.
 
2014-04-09 05:13:23 PM  
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Remember these pictures are from the GOP's "Tune in, Turn on and OPT OUT of Obamacare" ads, Dont let government play doctor.
 
2014-04-09 05:15:39 PM  

serial_crusher: "Your comments were extremely offensive to every single woman sitting in here, whether they're pregnant or whether they're not. I want to point that out, because that kind of attitude is demeaning to women, regardless of what they decide to do."

Maybe women need to stop being so emotionally fragile if every single one of them feels demeaned by this guy's take on a decision that many of them will never ever have to make.


Imagine if some government bureaucrat wanted to put a mandatory waiting period on getting kidney stones taken care of... You might never have to deal with them, but the idea that you wouldn't put due thought into having surgery and that it was appropriate for the government to make sure you took that time would be ridiculous.
 
2014-04-09 05:28:51 PM  
A LASER-LIKE FOCUS ON SMALL GOVERNMENT AND OUTREACH TO WOMEN AMIRITE!?!?!?!

/cruise control for cool
 
2014-04-09 05:29:34 PM  

serial_crusher: Maybe women need to stop being so emotionally fragile if every single one of them feels demeaned by this guy's take on a decision that many of them will never ever have to make.


I'm so glad you're here to mansplain this all away.
 
2014-04-09 05:46:02 PM  
Linking carpet to abortions makes some sense if you realize that pregnancy is often related to hardwood.
 
2014-04-09 06:07:41 PM  

Delta1212: Where is the law that mandates customers must go to the store, look at swatches and then return three days later before being allowed to purchase carpeting?


Generally the wand in the hoohah comes when you get the bill.
 
2014-04-09 06:08:19 PM  
On the new season of Veep, Vice President Selina Meyer is also promoting a book, Some New Beginnings, and finds herself having to formulate a new stance on abortion. Struggling to come up with one, she bemoans, "Maybe I should just say, 'Get the government out of my farkin' snatch.'"
 
2014-04-09 06:14:59 PM  
You're assuming that women won't take the decision seriously unless they're forced by a politician to have an ultrasound?

Wow...you're an idiot.
 
2014-04-09 06:30:28 PM  

Somacandra: serial_crusher: Maybe women need to stop being so emotionally fragile if every single one of them feels demeaned by this guy's take on a decision that many of them will never ever have to make.

I'm so glad you're here to mansplain this all away.


Isn't this thread 98% men posting about carpet and vagina?
 
2014-04-09 06:32:07 PM  
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There should be a three-day waiting period and a colonoscopy before this fat fark can hit the buffet.
 
2014-04-09 06:32:43 PM  
This is just dumb. You can't just put a fetus anywhere on the floor.
 
2014-04-09 06:33:34 PM  
a woman getting an abortion should treat it with the same deliberation as shopping for cars or carpeting

So be sure to test drive your abortion before you buy it.
 
2014-04-09 06:36:55 PM  
Ahhh.......the old FOX News Channel abortions-on-demand bullshiat.

Next.
 
2014-04-09 06:38:33 PM  

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Remember these pictures are from the GOP's "Tune in, Turn on and OPT OUT of Obamacare" ads, Dont let government play doctor.


What has been seen cannot be unseen.  That's some Grade A nightmare fuel.  Anyone have any photos of spiders?  I have a feeling that's a step up.
 
2014-04-09 06:41:18 PM  
a woman getting an abortion should treat it with the same deliberation as shopping for cars or carpeting

The same deliberation that almost took JCPenny down?  And causes fighting in the aisles on Black Friday?  And allows a number of Chryslers greater than zero to leave the lot?
 
2014-04-09 06:41:39 PM  
A lot of people don't have carpet any more, at least if TV and movies and porn and /r/gonewild are to be believed.

And it's a damn shame.
 
2014-04-09 06:43:13 PM  
My girlfriend wanted to have an abortion but we couldn't decide what color. We'll probably end up just getting two.
 
2014-04-09 06:43:23 PM  

elchip: A lot of people don't have carpet any more, at least if TV and movies and porn and /r/gonewild are to be believed.

And it's a damn shame.


Hardwood floors just make it look too, I don't know, boyish for my tastes. I mean exotic is okay. But if I'm creeped out by the decor neither of us is going to enjoy my visit.
 
2014-04-09 06:46:33 PM  
A fair number of people just go to their closest Ikea and buy whatever drapes are least ugly there. One-stop shop, in and out in a few hours.
 
2014-04-09 06:47:26 PM  
Bed, Bath and Abortions.
 
2014-04-09 06:50:30 PM  

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Remember these pictures are from the GOP's "Tune in, Turn on and OPT OUT of Obamacare" ads, Dont let government play doctor.


I seem to have missed that story.  Got a link?

/almost afraid to ask
 
2014-04-09 06:51:35 PM  
I tried to open up a drive-thru abortion clinic in Japan, they didn't get it, they'd just park their cars and walk up to the drive thru window, order an abortion to go, then eat it in their car in the parking lot.
 
2014-04-09 06:51:45 PM  

propasaurus: On the new season of Veep, Vice President Selina Meyer is also promoting a book, Some New Beginnings, and finds herself having to formulate a new stance on abortion. Struggling to come up with one, she bemoans, "Maybe I should just say, 'Get the government out of my farkin' snatch.'"


I'm gonna have to put Veep on my list of stuff to watch, aren't I.
 
2014-04-09 06:53:08 PM  

Lord_Baull: This is just dumb. You can't just put a fetus anywhere on the floor.


The right fetus can really pull a room together.
 
2014-04-09 06:55:12 PM  
Fark you guys, I came in to make a hardwood joke.
 
2014-04-09 06:55:30 PM  
It's been said before but it bears repeating: Right. Because getting an abortion is EXACTLY like buying a car or new carpeting.

Christ, what an asshole.

We should be allowed to kick people who say shiat like this in the yambag.

/Yambag, I say!
 
2014-04-09 06:55:35 PM  

elchip: A lot of people don't have carpet any more, at least if TV and movies and porn and /r/gonewild are to be believed.

And it's a damn shame.


A lot of multi-story apartments and condominiums require carpet in most rooms because of low sound transfer.  If there isn't enough sound insulation between units, a hardwood floor can transfer a lot of sound to the unit below.
 
2014-04-09 06:57:17 PM  

someonelse: Lord_Baull: This is just dumb. You can't just put a fetus anywhere on the floor.

The right fetus can really pull a room together.


Fetus shui?
 
2014-04-09 07:01:21 PM  

anfrind: elchip: A lot of people don't have carpet any more, at least if TV and movies and porn and /r/gonewild are to be believed.

And it's a damn shame.

A lot of multi-story apartments and condominiums require carpet in most rooms because of low sound transfer.  If there isn't enough sound insulation between units, a hardwood floor can transfer a lot of sound to the unit below.


Coincidentally, so can a baby.
 
2014-04-09 07:02:27 PM  
I don't see a problem with a mandatory waiting period for abortions.  Sure, most women have already deliberated on the matter, and won't change their mind in 3 days.  But there are thousands who hadn't thought it through, weren't aware of their alternatives, or were acting in a moment of panic.

Many states have the same policy for gun purchases, for mostly the same reasons.

/hopefully this time they close the "abortion show loophole"
 
2014-04-09 07:02:27 PM  

someonelse: Lord_Baull: This is just dumb. You can't just put a fetus anywhere on the floor.

The right fetus can really pull a room together.


What a decorative fetus might look like:

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For those interested, you can make one. http://www.ramenneedles.com/2011/08/fe tus-in-jar-pattern.html?m=1

/Some of the comments on Ravelry.com are comedy gold. If you happen to know what that is. If not, ignore that last part.
 
2014-04-09 07:04:35 PM  

Captain Dan: I don't see a problem with a mandatory waiting period for abortions.  Sure, most women have already deliberated on the matter, and won't change their mind in 3 days.  But there are thousands who hadn't thought it through, weren't aware of their alternatives, or were acting in a moment of panic.

Many states have the same policy for gun purchases, for mostly the same reasons.

/hopefully this time they close the "abortion show loophole"


How far do you have to drive to get to a place that sells a gun? How far do you have to drive to get to a clinic that performs abortions?
 
2014-04-09 07:04:39 PM  
A Republican lawmaker in Missouri who is sponsoring a bill that would mandate women seeking an abortion undergo an ultrasound and wait three days...

"I'm just saying this is a life-ending decision," he said. "You should think about it."


This is all about shaming the woman into not having an abortion. It's utterly transparent and pathetic. Might as well force the women to hold a baby while staring at the ultrasound for an hour straight.
 
2014-04-09 07:04:59 PM  
He's from the future: A Missouri Baptist Knight of Columbus.
 
2014-04-09 07:12:01 PM  

Serious Black: How far do you have to drive to get to a place that sells a gun? How far do you have to drive to get to a clinic that performs abortions?


Good point.  I wouldn't enact a 3-day waiting period until there was a reasonable access (no more than 1 hour drive?) to abortion providers for 90% of a state's residents.
 
2014-04-09 07:24:32 PM  

Captain Dan: I don't see a problem with a mandatory waiting period for abortions.  Sure, most women have already deliberated on the matter, and won't change their mind in 3 days.  But there are thousands who hadn't thought it through, weren't aware of their alternatives, or were acting in a moment of panic.

Many states have the same policy for gun purchases, for mostly the same reasons.

/hopefully this time they close the "abortion show loophole"


Citation for the thousands who get abortions on a whim?
 
2014-04-09 07:30:59 PM  

jst3p: Captain Dan: I don't see a problem with a mandatory waiting period for abortions.  Sure, most women have already deliberated on the matter, and won't change their mind in 3 days.  But there are thousands who hadn't thought it through, weren't aware of their alternatives, or were acting in a moment of panic.

Many states have the same policy for gun purchases, for mostly the same reasons.

/hopefully this time they close the "abortion show loophole"

Citation for the thousands who get abortions on a whim?


In his mind, they exist, and that's good enough.  It's the same kind of patronizing mindset that the bureaucrat in question is exhibiting.  They're just sure that if they aren't watching over them, these poor women won't be able to think things through on their own.
 
2014-04-09 07:36:18 PM  

Captain Dan: I don't see a problem with a mandatory waiting period for abortions.  Sure, most women have already deliberated on the matter, and won't change their mind in 3 days.  But there are thousands who hadn't thought it through, weren't aware of their alternatives, or were acting in a moment of panic.

Many states have the same policy for gun purchases, for mostly the same reasons.

/hopefully this time they close the "abortion show loophole"


Of course, you cant assume any women have thought about a major moral issue like this, we must protect them from their wanton ways!!!!  They should be thrilled about you taking over their life choices this way!!


/You farktard.
 
2014-04-09 07:38:29 PM  

timujin: jst3p: Captain Dan: I don't see a problem with a mandatory waiting period for abortions.  Sure, most women have already deliberated on the matter, and won't change their mind in 3 days.  But there are thousands who hadn't thought it through, weren't aware of their alternatives, or were acting in a moment of panic.

Many states have the same policy for gun purchases, for mostly the same reasons.

/hopefully this time they close the "abortion show loophole"

Citation for the thousands who get abortions on a whim?

In his mind, they exist, and that's good enough.  It's the same kind of patronizing mindset that the bureaucrat in question is exhibiting.  They're just sure that if they aren't watching over them, these poor women won't be able to think things through on their own.


It doesn't matter if it is true or not. If it feels true and supports his position that is close enough.
 
2014-04-09 07:38:46 PM  
Is there some law in Missouri where you can't walk into a car lot, pick out a vehicle, sign the papers and drive out the same day?
 
2014-04-09 07:38:47 PM  

Captain Dan: Serious Black: How far do you have to drive to get to a place that sells a gun? How far do you have to drive to get to a clinic that performs abortions?

Good point.  I wouldn't enact a 3-day waiting period until there was a reasonable access (no more than 1 hour drive?) to abortion providers for 90% of a state's residents.


Why have a wait period at all??  Again, you are assuming women haven't through through what is probably the most stressful and agonizing decision of their life.

/Next up, hes taking away their right to vote, because he thinks they dont think that through either.  farktard.
 
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