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(Roll Call)   Yet another thing Mississippi is #1 in   (wonkwire.rollcall.com) divider line 12
    More: Obvious, Mississippi, Pew Elections Performance Index, Political Wire, independent candidates, election law  
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2014-04-09 04:27:57 PM  
That graph, once you get to the one big enough to read on a screen, is pretty damned convoluted to read.  And as it is, I'm not sure it even means anything.
 
2014-04-09 06:16:34 PM  
Not to White Knight Mississippi.  But.

In any study, there is always going to be someone at the top of the list and someone at the bottom.  Additionally, without knowing the weighting of the various criteria and importance of them it is hard to beat them up because they are at the bottom of the list.

And when you look at everything.  It appears that the biggest offense that Mississippi has is that the particular statistics aren't available online.
 
2014-04-09 06:18:54 PM  

FriarReb98: That graph, once you get to the one big enough to read on a screen, is pretty damned convoluted to read.  And as it is, I'm not sure it even means anything.


It's not that hard. The y-axis is the score in 2012, the x-axis is the score in 2008.  The dashed lines represent the average for each year, respectively.  The diagonal means no change.  Upper right means above average for both years, lower left means below average for both years.  The other quads mean they flipped from above to below or below to above.
 
2014-04-09 06:22:38 PM  

BizarreMan: Not to White Knight Mississippi.  But.

In any study, there is always going to be someone at the top of the list and someone at the bottom.  Additionally, without knowing the weighting of the various criteria and importance of them it is hard to beat them up because they are at the bottom of the list.

And when you look at everything.  It appears that the biggest offense that Mississippi has is that the particular statistics aren't available online.


I haven't read the methodology, but TFA has a link to the summary of the index as well as a link to the PDF of the methods.  According to the summary the index was created by an effort between Pew and MIT, so it isn't exactly going to be willy nilly.
 
2014-04-09 06:28:28 PM  
Repeating pairs of alphabetic characters?
 
2014-04-09 06:30:48 PM  
They need to take into account Hoveround recharging times.
 
2014-04-09 06:31:46 PM  

AcademGreen: BizarreMan: Not to White Knight Mississippi.  But.

In any study, there is always going to be someone at the top of the list and someone at the bottom.  Additionally, without knowing the weighting of the various criteria and importance of them it is hard to beat them up because they are at the bottom of the list.

And when you look at everything.  It appears that the biggest offense that Mississippi has is that the particular statistics aren't available online.

I haven't read the methodology, but TFA has a link to the summary of the index as well as a link to the PDF of the methods.  According to the summary the index was created by an effort between Pew and MIT, so it isn't exactly going to be willy nilly.


One mistake I know for sure is that they treated vote-by-mail as being the same as absentee voting. So states like Oregon took a hit because of the percentage of unreturned ballots.  Not that that would have affected Mississippi.
 
2014-04-09 07:32:25 PM  

FriarReb98: That graph, once you get to the one big enough to read on a screen, is pretty damned convoluted to read.  And as it is, I'm not sure it even means anything.


Without any numbers aside from telling us what the averages were for 2008 and 2012, the only thing the graph really tells us is relative position, and if they either improved or got worse in between those years.

Sure, Mississippi looks like absolute rock bottom in voting, and North Dakota looks like the best outlier, but without numbers we can't say whether that's actually just a difference in 5-6%, or whether that's a difference in 30+% between the two.

Still somewhat damning for Mississippi.  Sure, the methodology could be a little off kilter since every state is different, but since they are measuring a wide range of factors, it could somewhat even out in the end.
 
2014-04-09 08:59:45 PM  

BizarreMan: Not to White Knight Mississippi.  But.

In any study, there is always going to be someone at the top of the list and someone at the bottom.  Additionally, without knowing the weighting of the various criteria and importance of them it is hard to beat them up because they are at the bottom of the list.

And when you look at everything.  It appears that the biggest offense that Mississippi has is that the particular statistics aren't available online.


Mississippi has enough Klan members without you white knighting them

/heyoooo
 
2014-04-09 10:02:57 PM  

BizarreMan: Not to White Knight Mississippi. But.

In any study, there is always going to be someone at the top of the list and someone at the bottom.


Exactly! Every list is going to have one of the 50 states as the worst.

Out of wedlock births?  Mississippi

Highest teen birth rates? Mississippi

Highest death rate? Mississippi

Highest Child Death Rate?  Mississippi

Highest percentage of people living in poverty? Mississippi

Highest percentage of children living in poverty? DC isn't a state, so Mississippi wins again!

Lowest Gross State Product? Mississippi

Highest Obesity rate? Mississippi

It has nothing to do with the fact that "some state" had to top the list - it's not farking random. It has to do with the fact that Mississippi is a giant sucking shiathole. It's one of the worst States in the US in almost every imaginable way - for everyone of the stats that has Mississippi as the "worst", there are six more that have it in the worst five
 
2014-04-09 10:15:48 PM  
Can't be.  A republican assured me that states run by republicans are doing great in this country.  I pointed out Mississippi as a perfect example of how wrong they were, and they pointed out that the state is actually doing much better.

/they were serious, that's the scary part.
 
2014-04-10 09:46:07 AM  
"based on 17 factors (some of which include voting-wait time, turnout, registration rate, the robustness of the state's election data, availability of online voting information, and use of provisional ballots)... Taken together, they provide a ground to compare states, which have varying election laws and practices."

Well DUH. Mississippi has a pretty significant black population. Can't be letting them have too much influence in the local electoral politics now, can we?
 
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