If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(AP)   Honduran illegal immigrants ask the Government of Mexico to allow safe passage, so they can sneak into the United States   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 74
    More: Fail, Honduran, United States, Mexico, Gulf of Mexico, illegal immigrants  
•       •       •

3364 clicks; posted to Main » on 09 Apr 2014 at 5:08 PM (28 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



74 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all
 
2014-04-09 04:18:47 PM  
FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.
 
2014-04-09 05:13:53 PM  

Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.


Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?
 
2014-04-09 05:14:31 PM  
Good luck getting the Mexican government to do anything.
 
2014-04-09 05:16:02 PM  

This text is now purple: Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.

Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?


They want the protection of the Mexican government while in transit to the US. Or that's how I read the article.
 
2014-04-09 05:17:54 PM  

iheartscotch: Good luck getting the Mexican government to do anything.


Especialy because those illegal Honduarans would be stealing good American jobs from Mexicans.
 
2014-04-09 05:18:07 PM  
As a matter of fact, if you look at the Mexican society as a whole, they have not stated overtly to the fact, but are, underneath it all, quite "unagreeable " to practices that do not benefit Mexicans.  If you're from Guatemal, El Salvador, or one of those other "Latin" countries, do not expect the same treatment as "natives". Now, before all you arts majors get in a tizzy, History bear the brunt of argument.
 
2014-04-09 05:19:45 PM  
Maybe Mexico is trying to avoid this


img3.allvoices.com
 
2014-04-09 05:22:10 PM  
"Give us free passage to break your imigration laws, so we can go on to break another country's imigration laws."
 
2014-04-09 05:22:41 PM  
 Good luck disabled migrants. The Mexican Gov't only cares about the welfare of Mexican Citizens, and then only the ones who manage to sneak in the US. They are all for their citizens being given US gov't subsidies. They are not about giving out subsidies to illegals in their own country.
 
2014-04-09 05:23:59 PM  
Mexicans make demands of Americans that they refuse when made by others.

Everyone who knows anything about the immigration debate knows Mexico is just concern trolling and all the rhetoric about rights and dignity is hollow.
 
2014-04-09 05:25:26 PM  

This text is now purple: Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?


From their own stupidity, apparently:

About a dozen Honduran migrants who lost legs and arms after falling from trains during northbound journeys across Mexico asked the country's Senate on Tuesday to stop the government's persecution of Central Americans, protect them from criminal gangs and contribute money to shelters for their care.
 
2014-04-09 05:26:02 PM  

hasty ambush: Maybe Mexico is trying to avoid this

img.fark.net



If only there were a group of people from that area that was good at housekeeping and landscaping, they could have that place ship-shape in no time...
 
2014-04-09 05:30:19 PM  
Ellos están tomando nuestros trabajos!
 
2014-04-09 05:30:35 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: hasty ambush: Maybe Mexico is trying to avoid this

[img.fark.net image 609x480]

If only there were a group of people from that area that was good at housekeeping and landscaping, they could have that place ship-shape in no time...


Woah, there. If the Mexicans start cleaning up after the Hondurans, who am I going to get to do my lawn for cheap?
 
2014-04-09 05:33:21 PM  
 About a dozen Honduran migrants who lost legs and arms after falling from trains

Can't wash dishes with only one arm....
 
2014-04-09 05:34:25 PM  

iheartscotch: This text is now purple: Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.

Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?

They want the protection of the Mexican government while in transit to the US. Or that's how I read the article.


Appallingly, that's how I read it, too. "We're illegally in your country, trying to illegally emigrate to the United States, and criminal gangs in your country are treating us like prey. Please protect us from those criminal acts so we can continue to commit criminal acts both in your country, and in the United States."

WTH? Yes, the Mexican government should protect basic human rights - by arresting both the illegal migrants and the criminal gang members. Deport the migrants back to Honduras, while treating them as humanely as possible during custody. Try, sentence, and imprison the gang members. Anything else is ludicrous.
 
2014-04-09 05:35:27 PM  

hasty ambush: Maybe Mexico is trying to avoid this


[img3.allvoices.com image 609x480]


Looks like the bloody road at Antietam.

Also, if we call them immigrants, they can't be illegal, can they?
 
2014-04-09 05:37:57 PM  
It's a winning move.  One they get into the US, there's very little chance they will ever be deported.
 
2014-04-09 05:38:57 PM  
Good luck with that. Mexico govt. is far harsher on illegal immigrants than the US govt is. Hypocrites.
 
2014-04-09 05:39:25 PM  

Ex-Texan: As a matter of fact, if you look at the Mexican society as a whole, they have not stated overtly to the fact, but are, underneath it all, quite "unagreeable " to practices that do not benefit Mexicans.  If you're from Guatemal, El Salvador, or one of those other "Latin" countries, do not expect the same treatment as "natives". Now, before all you arts majors get in a tizzy, History bear the brunt of argument.


That's life outside of all white (or I guess previously white) countries.
We are the anomaly, not the norm. The rest are pretty happy about themselves
 
2014-04-09 05:40:00 PM  
People only hear about what our border patrol does or fails to do, but the way Mexico treats illegals is far worse than what happens here. Mexican border agents are famously brutal and corrupt. Then of course, there are the "pandillas."
 
2014-04-09 05:41:34 PM  
¡Yo quiero Taco Bell!
 
2014-04-09 05:41:39 PM  

This text is now purple: Seeking asylum from what?


You don't know much about Honduras these days, do you?  You have an entire internet at your disposal to learn about the 2009 coup d'etat and rapidly deteriorating political environment in the post-Zelaya era..not to mention TFA's own discussion of the lawsuit against the railway companies and the legendary corruption of Mexico's immigration police? WTF?
 
2014-04-09 05:45:43 PM  

hasty ambush: Maybe Mexico is trying to avoid this


[img3.allvoices.com image 609x480]


An indian reservation?
 
2014-04-09 05:46:17 PM  
"We are no model of what we demand from the United States," Cuevas said. "It would be nice of Mexico could become an example of what we are demanding."

img1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-09 05:50:02 PM  

iheartscotch: Good luck getting the Mexican government to do anything.


FTA: "In 2008, Mexico removed rarely enforced criminal penalties of 1 1/2-10 years in prison for migrants in the country illegally. Being an undocumented migrant is now a minor offense punishable by fines. But then, and now, most migrants have simply been deported."

It sounds like the Mexican government doesn't even bother to enforce their own immigration laws.
 
2014-04-09 05:51:04 PM  
RACISTS!

/amidoingitright?
 
2014-04-09 05:51:29 PM  

Somacandra: This text is now purple: Seeking asylum from what?

You don't know much about Honduras these days, do you?  You have an entire internet at your disposal to learn about the 2009 coup d'etat and rapidly deteriorating political environment in the post-Zelaya era..not to mention TFA's own discussion of the lawsuit against the railway companies and the legendary corruption of Mexico's immigration police? WTF?


Asylum is basically "I'm here, and can't go back because reasons."

A Honduran in Mexico can get asylum by Mexico from Honduras. A Mexican in the US can get asylum by the US from Mexco. But a Honduran in Mexico has a really tough argument for asylum by the US from Honduras. Mainly because they have already escaped Honduras.

But even if the question was asylum by Mexico, it's bizarre. They are Hondurans in Mexico, asking for asylum by Mexico from Mexico.
 
2014-04-09 05:51:40 PM  

FormlessOne: iheartscotch: This text is now purple: Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.

Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?

They want the protection of the Mexican government while in transit to the US. Or that's how I read the article.

Appallingly, that's how I read it, too. "We're illegally in your country, trying to illegally emigrate to the United States, and criminal gangs in your country are treating us like prey. Please protect us from those criminal acts so we can continue to commit criminal acts both in your country, and in the United States."

WTH? Yes, the Mexican government should protect basic human rights - by arresting both the illegal migrants and the criminal gang members. Deport the migrants back to Honduras, while treating them as humanely as possible during custody. Try, sentence, and imprison the gang members. Anything else is ludicrous.


Rounding the baddies up wouldn't work. Mexico doesn't have a strong central government. Most of their cities are run by the cartels.

Most of their military, police, and judiciary are corrupt; and the ones who aren't get murdered. Basically, it would take a massive amount of outside intervention.


/ The only way to really fix it would be to empower the Mexican people. And it wouldn't hurt if their economy was improved; so drug sales aren't as attractive.
 
2014-04-09 05:53:58 PM  

shinjitsuism: iheartscotch: Good luck getting the Mexican government to do anything.

FTA: "In 2008, Mexico removed rarely enforced criminal penalties of 1 1/2-10 years in prison for migrants in the country illegally. Being an undocumented migrant is now a minor offense punishable by fines. But then, and now, most migrants have simply been deported."

It sounds like the Mexican government doesn't even bother to enforce their own immigration laws.


They learned it from watching us, ok? They learned it from watching us...
 
2014-04-09 05:58:50 PM  

NutWrench: From their own stupidity, apparently:

About a dozen Honduran migrants who lost legs and arms after falling from trains during northbound journeys across Mexico asked the country's Senate on Tuesday to stop the government's persecution of Central Americans, protect them from criminal gangs and contribute money to shelters for their care.


I've seen reports on that train. 'Stupidity' isn't quite the right word when there's no indoor seating and the train's roof and sides are filled to overflowing. They know full well they might fall off. They get on the train anyway because they want out of Honduras just that badly.

Here is a picture of the train in motion:

i14.photobucket.com

That is not stupidity in action. That's desperation. Big, big difference.
 
2014-04-09 05:58:53 PM  

iheartscotch: FormlessOne: iheartscotch: This text is now purple: Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.

Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?

They want the protection of the Mexican government while in transit to the US. Or that's how I read the article.

Appallingly, that's how I read it, too. "We're illegally in your country, trying to illegally emigrate to the United States, and criminal gangs in your country are treating us like prey. Please protect us from those criminal acts so we can continue to commit criminal acts both in your country, and in the United States."

WTH? Yes, the Mexican government should protect basic human rights - by arresting both the illegal migrants and the criminal gang members. Deport the migrants back to Honduras, while treating them as humanely as possible during custody. Try, sentence, and imprison the gang members. Anything else is ludicrous.

Rounding the baddies up wouldn't work. Mexico doesn't have a strong central government. Most of their cities are run by the cartels.

Most of their military, police, and judiciary are corrupt; and the ones who aren't get murdered. Basically, it would take a massive amount of outside intervention.


/ The only way to really fix it would be to empower the Mexican people. And it wouldn't hurt if their economy was improved; so drug sales aren't as attractive.


Or just end the war on drugs. The weed that comes from Mexico would be worthless if it were legal to grow the good stuff up here. I realize weed isn't the only thing but it's a substantial portion. Prohibition of something that has consistent demand only drives the market underground and drives prices way up. The high prices entice people to engage in some pretty outlandish behavior to have a slice of that pie.
 
2014-04-09 06:06:14 PM  

James10952001: Or just end the war on drugs. The weed that comes from Mexico would be worthless if it were legal to grow the good stuff up here. I realize weed isn't the only thing but it's a substantial portion. Prohibition of something that has consistent demand only drives the market underground and drives prices way up. The high prices entice people to engage in some pretty outlandish behavior to have a slice of that pie.


The problem there is, when the market for one drug collapses, dealers tend to simply switch to another drug that gives better profit margins. No market for weed? No prob, we'll just sell meth or cocaine or heroin.
 
2014-04-09 06:12:53 PM  

James10952001: iheartscotch: FormlessOne: iheartscotch: This text is now purple: Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.

Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?

They want the protection of the Mexican government while in transit to the US. Or that's how I read the article.

Appallingly, that's how I read it, too. "We're illegally in your country, trying to illegally emigrate to the United States, and criminal gangs in your country are treating us like prey. Please protect us from those criminal acts so we can continue to commit criminal acts both in your country, and in the United States."

WTH? Yes, the Mexican government should protect basic human rights - by arresting both the illegal migrants and the criminal gang members. Deport the migrants back to Honduras, while treating them as humanely as possible during custody. Try, sentence, and imprison the gang members. Anything else is ludicrous.

Rounding the baddies up wouldn't work. Mexico doesn't have a strong central government. Most of their cities are run by the cartels.

Most of their military, police, and judiciary are corrupt; and the ones who aren't get murdered. Basically, it would take a massive amount of outside intervention.


/ The only way to really fix it would be to empower the Mexican people. And it wouldn't hurt if their economy was improved; so drug sales aren't as attractive.

Or just end the war on drugs. The weed that comes from Mexico would be worthless if it were legal to grow the good stuff up here. I realize weed isn't the only thing but it's a substantial portion. Prohibition of something that has consistent demand only drives the market underground and drives prices way up. The high prices entice people to engage in some pretty outlandish behavior to have a slice of that pie.


Even if we legalized everything; crack, meth, heroin, crockidil, ect; they'd just switch over completely to human trafficking and kidnap. The only way to fix it, and really fix it, would be to strengthen Mexico's government, empower her people and improve their economy.
 
2014-04-09 06:12:59 PM  

iheartscotch: FormlessOne: iheartscotch: This text is now purple: Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.

Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?

They want the protection of the Mexican government while in transit to the US. Or that's how I read the article.

Appallingly, that's how I read it, too. "We're illegally in your country, trying to illegally emigrate to the United States, and criminal gangs in your country are treating us like prey. Please protect us from those criminal acts so we can continue to commit criminal acts both in your country, and in the United States."

WTH? Yes, the Mexican government should protect basic human rights - by arresting both the illegal migrants and the criminal gang members. Deport the migrants back to Honduras, while treating them as humanely as possible during custody. Try, sentence, and imprison the gang members. Anything else is ludicrous.

Rounding the baddies up wouldn't work. Mexico doesn't have a strong central government. Most of their cities are run by the cartels.

Most of their military, police, and judiciary are corrupt; and the ones who aren't get murdered. Basically, it would take a massive amount of outside intervention.


/ The only way to really fix it would be to empower the Mexican people. And it wouldn't hurt if their economy was improved; so drug sales aren't as attractive.


What I'm hearing is "it's time to take over Mexico." An entire country unwilling to protect its own borders or respect the borders of other countries no longer deserves to be a country, to be honest. "Empowering" the Mexican people is futile, because they're broke - the wealth inequity in Mexico is staggering. If the government is truly incapable of dealing with the problem, and the people are either unwilling or unable to deal with the problem, perhaps it's time to wrest control from the brutal, powerful cartels and the corrupt, useless government at the same time. Perhaps I'm just in a bad mood, but perhaps taking direct military, economic, and social control of the Mexican states should be on the list.
 
2014-04-09 06:18:02 PM  

Vee-One: "Give us free passage to break your imigration laws, so we can go on to break another country's imigration laws."


This.  And there is no way Mexico will ever officially do it because a) they know the US would throw a shaitstorm like we just ate a bad burrito and b) a lot Mexicans don't actually like their neighbors all that much.  I used to work for a temp agency/ labor contractor doing payroll and I was surprised to find how much "brown on brown" racism there is.
 
2014-04-09 06:19:20 PM  

Gosling: James10952001: Or just end the war on drugs. The weed that comes from Mexico would be worthless if it were legal to grow the good stuff up here. I realize weed isn't the only thing but it's a substantial portion. Prohibition of something that has consistent demand only drives the market underground and drives prices way up. The high prices entice people to engage in some pretty outlandish behavior to have a slice of that pie.

The problem there is, when the market for one drug collapses, dealers tend to simply switch to another drug that gives better profit margins. No market for weed? No prob, we'll just sell meth or cocaine or heroin.


Actually some already switched to human trafficking
 
2014-04-09 06:23:00 PM  

iheartscotch: FormlessOne: iheartscotch: This text is now purple: Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.

Seeking asylum from what? They want asylum in the US to protect them from Mexicans, after they illegally snuck into Mexico? Honduras won't take them back?

They want the protection of the Mexican government while in transit to the US. Or that's how I read the article.

Appallingly, that's how I read it, too. "We're illegally in your country, trying to illegally emigrate to the United States, and criminal gangs in your country are treating us like prey. Please protect us from those criminal acts so we can continue to commit criminal acts both in your country, and in the United States."

WTH? Yes, the Mexican government should protect basic human rights - by arresting both the illegal migrants and the criminal gang members. Deport the migrants back to Honduras, while treating them as humanely as possible during custody. Try, sentence, and imprison the gang members. Anything else is ludicrous.

Rounding the baddies up wouldn't work. Mexico doesn't have a strong central government. Most of their cities are run by the cartels.

Most of their military, police, and judiciary are corrupt; and the ones who aren't get murdered. Basically, it would take a massive amount of outside intervention.


/ The only way to really fix it would be to empower the Mexican people. And it wouldn't hurt if their economy was improved; so drug sales aren't as attractive.


I don't want to offend Mexico but what the hell is going on there?

Send in Chuck Norris?
 
2014-04-09 06:28:38 PM  

Somacandra: You don't know much about Honduras these days, do you?


Most  estadounidenses don't know much about  los Estados Unidos, let alone any other countries.

Of course they have no idea that people elsewhere might have legitimate problems that require assistance, or US Government agencies that have any part in the systematic struggles of these peoples.
 
2014-04-09 06:37:14 PM  

Ex-Texan: As a matter of fact, if you look at the Mexican society as a whole, they have not stated overtly to the fact, but are, underneath it all, quite "unagreeable " to practices that do not benefit Mexicans.  If you're from Guatemal, El Salvador, or one of those other "Latin" countries, do not expect the same treatment as "natives". Now, before all you arts majors get in a tizzy, History bear the brunt of argument.


Not to mention there are large splits within mexico itself. There are the spanish descendants who consider themselvse white, and they look down on and treat poorly the  Mestizo/natives.

Its the mestizos and natives that you see working on the farms in southern US. The white/spanish mexicans usually live a good life in Mexico and stay there.   They are the ones who usually get the jobs on the soap operas and TV news down there. They dont give that kind of work to the 4'-9" pudgy native.
 
2014-04-09 06:38:42 PM  
Will they immediately set up close knit, tight lipped Honduran communities in major failing cities and demand that us racist, gringo ofays respect their culture.  I will need assurance of this before I can form an opinion as to the group's needs.
 
2014-04-09 06:38:52 PM  
Illegal aliens are good to go

But don't bring cattle anywhere near these BLM snipers. They will take you down if your cattle touch federal soil. Not like illegal aliens crossing federal rangeland.

static.prisonplanet.com
 
2014-04-09 06:39:58 PM  

IAmYourBrainOnDrugs: Somacandra: You don't know much about Honduras these days, do you?

Most  estadounidenses don't know much about  los Estados Unidos, let alone any other countries.

Of course they have no idea that people elsewhere might have legitimate problems that require assistance, or US Government agencies that have any part in the systematic struggles of these peoples.


So it is America's fault that these countries suck so bad people have to run away? And it is America's responsibility to "assist" these people?
 
2014-04-09 06:49:44 PM  

Gosling: NutWrench: From their own stupidity, apparently:

About a dozen Honduran migrants who lost legs and arms after falling from trains during northbound journeys across Mexico asked the country's Senate on Tuesday to stop the government's persecution of Central Americans, protect them from criminal gangs and contribute money to shelters for their care.

I've seen reports on that train. 'Stupidity' isn't quite the right word when there's no indoor seating and the train's roof and sides are filled to overflowing. They know full well they might fall off. They get on the train anyway because they want out of Honduras just that badly.

Here is a picture of the train in motion:

img.fark.net

That is not stupidity in action. That's desperation. Big, big difference.



Pffft...amateurs...


static.b92.net
 
2014-04-09 06:50:00 PM  

badaboom: IAmYourBrainOnDrugs: Somacandra: You don't know much about Honduras these days, do you?

Most  estadounidenses don't know much about  los Estados Unidos, let alone any other countries.

Of course they have no idea that people elsewhere might have legitimate problems that require assistance, or US Government agencies that have any part in the systematic struggles of these peoples.

So it is America's fault that these countries suck so bad people have to run away? And it is America's responsibility to "assist" these people?


actually, in the case of Honduras and mostgovernmenmerican countries, the answer is yes--it is the US's fault. Or, at least, our government and military.
 
2014-04-09 06:50:05 PM  

Somacandra: FTFA: About a dozen Honduran migrants missing legs and arms after falling off of or being pushed from trains during clandestine journeys through Mexico are asking the Mexican government to protect them from criminal gangs.

I realize the politically correct label is "illegal immigrant" but this strikes me more as refugee/asylum seeker type stuff. Perhaps I'm just prejudiced because I can think of a lot of shiatty Americans I'd rather have kicked out of the country than undocumented aliens.


They are seeking asylum against a country they illegally entered? Problem wpuld have been solved by not entering Mexico. Granting them asylum is beyond the definition of asylum.
 
2014-04-09 06:51:10 PM  
Sorry, *Central American.
 
2014-04-09 06:54:05 PM  

IAmYourBrainOnDrugs: badaboom: IAmYourBrainOnDrugs: Somacandra: You don't know much about Honduras these days, do you?

Most  estadounidenses don't know much about  los Estados Unidos, let alone any other countries.

Of course they have no idea that people elsewhere might have legitimate problems that require assistance, or US Government agencies that have any part in the systematic struggles of these peoples.

So it is America's fault that these countries suck so bad people have to run away? And it is America's responsibility to "assist" these people?

actually, in the case of Honduras and mostgovernmenmerican countries, the answer is yes--it is the US's fault. Or, at least, our government and military.


Costa Rica.
 
2014-04-09 06:55:12 PM  

badaboom: IAmYourBrainOnDrugs: Somacandra: You don't know much about Honduras these days, do you?

Most  estadounidenses don't know much about  los Estados Unidos, let alone any other countries.

Of course they have no idea that people elsewhere might have legitimate problems that require assistance, or US Government agencies that have any part in the systematic struggles of these peoples.

So it is America's fault that these countries suck so bad people have to run away? And it is America's responsibility to "assist" these people?


Considering the fact that the U.S. government sponsored the 2009 coup in Honduras that has made life there even worse, I would say we bear some responsibility.
 
2014-04-09 06:55:50 PM  

IAmYourBrainOnDrugs: badaboom: IAmYourBrainOnDrugs: Somacandra: You don't know much about Honduras these days, do you?

Most  estadounidenses don't know much about  los Estados Unidos, let alone any other countries.

Of course they have no idea that people elsewhere might have legitimate problems that require assistance, or US Government agencies that have any part in the systematic struggles of these peoples.

So it is America's fault that these countries suck so bad people have to run away? And it is America's responsibility to "assist" these people?

actually, in the case of Honduras and mostgovernmenmerican countries, the answer is yes--it is the US's fault. Or, at least, our government and military.


So, the fact that Spain micromanaged its New World colonies to the point that these countries had no idea how to self-govern once they attained independence...that's the US's fault, too?
 
Displayed 50 of 74 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report