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(Right Wing Watch)   GOP's Obamacare alternative: Instead of expanding Medicaid, poor people without insurance should just go to the ER. But let's also pass a law that allows ERs to turn away poor people   (rightwingwatch.org) divider line 203
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2014-04-09 03:32:00 PM  
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2014-04-09 03:33:07 PM  
F*cking evil clowns
 
2014-04-09 03:39:27 PM  
Solve the problem by making it worse?

I should really learn to speak Republican one day.  Too bad Rosetta Stone is so expensive.
 
2014-04-09 03:42:40 PM  
Emergency rooms are for when the bleeding won't stop, the bone is sticking through or that elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.
 
2014-04-09 03:46:26 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*cking evil clowns


That is an insult to people like John Wayne Gacy.
 
2014-04-09 03:48:42 PM  

cretinbob: Emergency rooms are for when the bleeding won't stop, the bone is sticking through or that elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.


This.

This is also the reason why so many urgent care centers have been springing up all over the place- for profit healthcare for non-emergencies.
 
2014-04-09 03:51:26 PM  
What GOP "healthcare reform" might look like:

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2014-04-09 03:53:21 PM  

cretinbob: Emergency rooms are for when the bleeding won't stop, the bone is sticking through or that elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.


By your logic I would have died from pneumonia.
 
2014-04-09 04:08:53 PM  
So... Make it really expensive for some and deadly for others? Sounds awesome.
 
2014-04-09 04:11:13 PM  

ScaryBottles: What GOP "healthcare reform" might look like:


www.highdefdigest.com
 
2014-04-09 04:23:35 PM  

cretinbob: elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.


DIsregarding that certain sectors of the population are extremely vulnerable to the flu and at a much greater risk of mortality from it, how is a person supposed to know whether they have flu, anaphylactic shock, tuberculosis or pneumonia? Not everyone can diagnose remotely like Senator Bill Frist.
 
2014-04-09 04:27:35 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*cking evil clowns


God, there's really just no other way to interpret them lately is there?

I mean, you can't know someone's heart, so it's really only fair to judge them on their actions. And their actions are those of evil farking clowns.
 
2014-04-09 04:28:02 PM  

Somacandra: cretinbob: elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.

DIsregarding that certain sectors of the population are extremely vulnerable to the flu and at a much greater risk of mortality from it, how is a person supposed to know whether they have flu, anaphylactic shock, tuberculosis or pneumonia? Not everyone can diagnose remotely like Senator Bill Frist.


I see your point, but honestly, if you've been waiting in the ER for more than an hour and you're still alive, you're probably in the wrong place.
 
2014-04-09 04:28:52 PM  

cretinbob: Emergency rooms are for when the bleeding won't stop, the bone is sticking through or that elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.


What what you're saying is, this country would be well-served by universal access to affordable preventative care? Someone should act on that.
 
2014-04-09 04:33:01 PM  

vernonFL: Somacandra: cretinbob: elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.

DIsregarding that certain sectors of the population are extremely vulnerable to the flu and at a much greater risk of mortality from it, how is a person supposed to know whether they have flu, anaphylactic shock, tuberculosis or pneumonia? Not everyone can diagnose remotely like Senator Bill Frist.

I see your point, but honestly, if you've been waiting in the ER for more than an hour and you're still alive, you're probably in the wrong place.


There aren't any other options in a lot of places. My hometown has an ER that is about 5 miles from my house. The nearest urgent care center is over 30 miles from my house. If I have a health care issue and my PCP office is closed, should I really drive the extra half an hour to get to the urgent care center over the ER?
 
2014-04-09 04:36:16 PM  
Serious Black

I guess it depends on which is more crowded. Youre right though some places dont have many good options.
 
2014-04-09 04:37:09 PM  

vernonFL: I see your point, but honestly, if you've been waiting in the ER for more than an hour and you're still alive, you're probably in the wrong place.


You're confusing the ER with the trauma ward.
 
2014-04-09 04:38:15 PM  
Remember during the GOP debates, when the moderator asked if we should just let people without insurance die, and members of the audience screamed out "YEAH!"
 
2014-04-09 04:39:57 PM  
My wife and I were entreated to the chaos of emergency room care last night after our two-year-old son slipped while climbing onto a high kitchen counter and banged his head on the floor. He had a massive lump on his forehead and we were concerned about internal bleeding -

Your kid had a bump on the noggin and you took him to the ER?

You're the ones who should have been turned away.
 
2014-04-09 04:44:47 PM  

Calmamity: My wife and I were entreated to the chaos of emergency room care last night after our two-year-old son slipped while climbing onto a high kitchen counter and banged his head on the floor. He had a massive lump on his forehead and we were concerned about internal bleeding -

Your kid had a bump on the noggin and you took him to the ER?

You're the ones who should have been turned away.


I remember a girl having an accident on a bike and bumping her head. She didn't go to the ER like a pussy.

She died a couple hours later.
 
2014-04-09 04:46:57 PM  

vernonFL: Somacandra: cretinbob: elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.

DIsregarding that certain sectors of the population are extremely vulnerable to the flu and at a much greater risk of mortality from it, how is a person supposed to know whether they have flu, anaphylactic shock, tuberculosis or pneumonia? Not everyone can diagnose remotely like Senator Bill Frist.

I see your point, but honestly, if you've been waiting in the ER for more than an hour and you're still alive, you're probably in the wrong place.


Well, that's just dumb.  I was in the ER for more than an hour following a car wreck, turned out I had a major concussion and needed to be kept under observation for 24 hours.  I was in there once for pneumonia as well, it took more than an hour to get to me, but seeing someone probably saved my life.  Both times I had insurance and a GP, but I went to the emergency room because it takes days if not weeks to see my regular physician.
 
2014-04-09 04:48:06 PM  
I frequently criticise republicans for never having any intellectual integrity or consistency. They are frequently happy taking two mutually exclusive positions.

At least on this occasion they have the courage to say what there ideas really are: Let poor people die in the streets if they can't afford medical insurance.

It obviously reveals them for the morally bankrupt evil shiat wizards they are but at least they are telling the truth about it for once.
 
2014-04-09 04:51:06 PM  
Christ what a bunch of assholes.
 
2014-04-09 04:55:36 PM  

Tigger: I frequently criticise republicans for never having any intellectual integrity or consistency. They are frequently happy taking two mutually exclusive positions.

At least on this occasion they have the courage to say what there ideas really are: Let poor people die in the streets if they can't afford medical insurance.

It obviously reveals them for the morally bankrupt evil shiat wizards they are but at least they are telling the truth about it for once.


It's part of their "we don't need to change our positions, we need to change our message" revamp.

After doing some focus groups, they discovered that an alarming number of people thought they were against letting the poor die.
 
2014-04-09 05:13:39 PM  
Natasha Richardson should have gone to the ER for her noggin bump
 
2014-04-09 05:16:22 PM  

Calmamity: My wife and I were entreated to the chaos of emergency room care last night after our two-year-old son slipped while climbing onto a high kitchen counter and banged his head on the floor. He had a massive lump on his forehead and we were concerned about internal bleeding -

Your kid had a bump on the noggin and you took him to the ER?

You're the ones who should have been turned away.


I know, right? People who don't practice medicine are definitely the best people to judge the extent and seriousness of an injury, especially head injuries.
 
2014-04-09 05:17:39 PM  

vernonFL: I see your point, but honestly, if you've been waiting in the ER for more than an hour and you're still alive, you're probably in the wrong place.


ERs have triage nurses that assess the severity of injuries/illnesses into the ER.  Someone comes in with chest pains, they're seen right away.  Someone comes in with a large cut on their arm, they wait a while.  But not everyone can aquire injuries or illnesses in normal business hours.  If I break a bone on a wild saturday night, I'm not going to wait until the next morning to go to an urgent care clinic.

There are many reasons why people go to ERs that may not scream "LIFE THREATENING EMERGENCY", however not being able to afford to see a regular doctor should never be one of those reasons.
 
2014-04-09 05:17:53 PM  
After all of the bullshiat the Republicans have been pulling as far as healthcare in the US these past few years (with the obvious, consistent tries to dismantle the ACA), I knew it would only be a matter of time before one of them would decide that the EMTALA law needed to be struck down.

They continue to argue that the US has the 'best healthcare in the world', but the reality is that it needs to be followed up by 'as long as you are wealthy enough to afford it.'
 
2014-04-09 05:18:44 PM  

Serious Black: my PCP office is closed


I've been told that one can acquire PCP outside of regular office hours on certain street corners.

/have you ever tried sugar, or PCP?
 
2014-04-09 05:20:24 PM  
At least they are rather incompetently evil...
 
2014-04-09 05:20:25 PM  
That blog post in the article was a nice bundle of xenophobia and total lack of empathy in a neat, concise, odious package.
 
2014-04-09 05:22:01 PM  
When we drove to the closest hospital, the waiting room was full of illegals.

Really? Did he card everyone, or is he just making an ASSumption?

I know the answer to this, BTW.
 
2014-04-09 05:23:45 PM  
This plan is that perfect combination of stupid and evil that only Republicans can achieve so effortlessly. They should replace their elephant logo with the yin/yang symbol where yin is "retarded" and yang is "sociopathic in its cruelty to fellow human beings".
 
2014-04-09 05:23:48 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: After all of the bullshiat the Republicans have been pulling as far as healthcare in the US these past few years (with the obvious, consistent tries to dismantle the ACA), I knew it would only be a matter of time before one of them would decide that the EMTALA law needed to be struck down.

They continue to argue that the US has the 'best healthcare in the world', but the reality is that it needs to be followed up by 'as long as you are wealthy enough to afford it.'


Good heavens, you speak of poors as though they were nearly human! What delightful flights of fancy you entertain, you rascal.
 
2014-04-09 05:24:49 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: After all of the bullshiat the Republicans have been pulling as far as healthcare in the US these past few years (with the obvious, consistent tries to dismantle the ACA), I knew it would only be a matter of time before one of them would decide that the EMTALA law needed to be struck down.

They continue to argue that the US has the 'best healthcare in the world', but the reality is that it needs to be followed up by 'as long as you are wealthy enough to afford it.'


Which isn't even true, because everyone who can afford it takes advantage of low foreign prices and US-trained doctors via medical tourism.
 
2014-04-09 05:25:10 PM  
When you open up Ted Cruz's potato, all you'll find is

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2014-04-09 05:25:49 PM  

Serious Black: If I have a health care issue and my PCP office is closed, should I really drive the extra half an hour to get to the urgent care center over the ER?


If it isn't an emergency?  Yes.
 
2014-04-09 05:25:51 PM  
GOP 's more extreme next step: Mercy killings.
 
2014-04-09 05:26:43 PM  
These are the same idiots that think you need to be in a wheelchair to use a handicap parking stall. Those people in the waiting room weren't suffering from multiple gunshot wounds so they shouldn't be at the EMERGENCY room.
 
2014-04-09 05:26:44 PM  
Dear GOP.

i677.photobucket.com

Not the smartest comment, but pretty much sums up how I feel.
 
2014-04-09 05:27:18 PM  
Go back to Canada, farktard.
 
2014-04-09 05:28:29 PM  

jylcat: cretinbob: Emergency rooms are for when the bleeding won't stop, the bone is sticking through or that elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.

By your logic I would have died from pneumonia.


It takes weeks to get in to see a doctor. ERs aren't just for people about to bleed out and die in a matter of minutes.
 
2014-04-09 05:28:42 PM  

vernonFL: Somacandra: cretinbob: elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.

DIsregarding that certain sectors of the population are extremely vulnerable to the flu and at a much greater risk of mortality from it, how is a person supposed to know whether they have flu, anaphylactic shock, tuberculosis or pneumonia? Not everyone can diagnose remotely like Senator Bill Frist.

I see your point, but honestly, if you've been waiting in the ER for more than an hour and you're still alive, you're probably in the wrong place.


Wrong.

It took an hour to get into the ER when my pancreas went out, and they put me on morphine for two days and a saline drip for about 18 hours. I should have just left after the first hour was up?
 
2014-04-09 05:29:00 PM  

cretinbob: Emergency rooms are for when the bleeding won't stop, the bone is sticking through or that elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.


The Flu is the 8th leading cause of death in America.
 
2014-04-09 05:31:09 PM  
Compa$$inate Con$ervative: F*ck you, pay me.
 
2014-04-09 05:31:18 PM  

impaler: Remember during the GOP debates, when the moderator asked if we should just let people without insurance die, and members of the audience screamed out "YEAH!"




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2014-04-09 05:31:32 PM  

vernonFL: Somacandra: cretinbob: elephannt won't get off your chest. I'm sorry you're in you second day of the flu, but you'll live.

DIsregarding that certain sectors of the population are extremely vulnerable to the flu and at a much greater risk of mortality from it, how is a person supposed to know whether they have flu, anaphylactic shock, tuberculosis or pneumonia? Not everyone can diagnose remotely like Senator Bill Frist.

I see your point, but honestly, if you've been waiting in the ER for more than an hour and you're still alive, you're probably in the wrong place.


That's a bit of an overstatement -- a fractured femur or pneumothorax or something like that is a perfectly valid reason to go to the ER, even though it's unlikely to kill you within an hour.
 
2014-04-09 05:31:48 PM  

qorkfiend: AurizenDarkstar: After all of the bullshiat the Republicans have been pulling as far as healthcare in the US these past few years (with the obvious, consistent tries to dismantle the ACA), I knew it would only be a matter of time before one of them would decide that the EMTALA law needed to be struck down.

They continue to argue that the US has the 'best healthcare in the world', but the reality is that it needs to be followed up by 'as long as you are wealthy enough to afford it.'

Which isn't even true, because everyone who can afford it takes advantage of low foreign prices and US-trained doctors via medical tourism.


Oh, I agree.  While we have a lot of great medical technology and physicians, we as a nation don't get anywhere near enough 'bang for our buck' when it comes to the costs of providing health care.  Since there are no guidelines or maximums set that doctors and hospitals can charge, no one has ANY clue how much they'll actually be charged for a procedure or a hospital stay in the US.  The one reason why so many people in countries like the UK, Canada and Germany wouldn't change their health care is due to the fact that the costs are kept low (due to the government creating controls on costs, both for hospital/physician services and pharmaceuticals) and they never really have to worry about the costs of lifesaving care, much less access to it.
 
2014-04-09 05:31:56 PM  

Mikey1969: It took an hour to get into the ER when my pancreas went out, and they put me on morphine for two days and a saline drip for about 18 hours. I should have just left after the first hour was up?


If people weren't using the ER as a convenient alternative to their family practitioner, you probably wouldn't have had to wait that long.
 
2014-04-09 05:31:59 PM  
If today's GOP had been in the S.S. in '43, they would have been kicked out for cruelty.

Yeah.... I went Godwin.
 
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