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2014-04-09 05:49:11 PM  

tripleseven: Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician that proposed legislation on said item once miss identified it.


FIFY.

If you can't even identify the damn thing, maybe quit trying to legislate it until you can actually educate yourself on what the hell you are talking about.
 
2014-04-09 05:49:12 PM  

dittybopper: Carn: Does banning them say he's going to come to your house and take them away?  Or might they perhaps have to do something like allow existing ones and ban new purchases, since it's absolutely unfeasible to go house to house so Mr. Obama can rip them from your hands?  If you start off viewing him as the devil, there's no other way to look at anything.

Actually, I view him as the best thing that ever happened to the gun industry in my nearly 50 years of life.

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/Haven't bought a gun since before the turn of the century.
//Sold a couple since then, though.


Right, so what's the problem?
 
2014-04-09 05:49:15 PM  
redmid17: That's the one he specifically let die in court before he signed it because it was a rider attached to the largest economic bill he signed?

my understanding is that similar rules died under Bush, and this was attached to the Credit CARD Act.
 
2014-04-09 05:49:17 PM  

CynicalLA: Mikey1969: CynicalLA: Mikey1969: dittybopper: Carn: Does banning them say he's going to come to your house and take them away?  Or might they perhaps have to do something like allow existing ones and ban new purchases, since it's absolutely unfeasible to go house to house so Mr. Obama can rip them from your hands?  If you start off viewing him as the devil, there's no other way to look at anything.

Actually, I view him as the best thing that ever happened to the gun industry in my nearly 50 years of life.

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/Haven't bought a gun since before the turn of the century.
//Sold a couple since then, though.

Not to gun owners though. Nobody can find ammo, and guns cost twice as much as they used to. These paranoid freaks are pissing me off. I got lucky and bought ammo for my SKS right before the first wave of "Obama's coming!" paranoia, and managed to find .45 ammo right before he got elected again, and people pulled out the fainting couches for the second time. Otherwise, I'd be totally screwed...

This is the silver lining.  It makes me happy to think that some fat old white dude is wasting all his money stocking up on ammo.

So racism is OK when talking about White folk? Clear as a bell.

I'm white so I can make fun of white trash all day.


Yeah, not buying it. I also don't buy it when black people throw the 'N-word' around. Racism is racism.
 
2014-04-09 05:49:28 PM  

USP .45: tripleseven: A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire

And most guns don't have them nor do they need them. It was legislation targeting TEC-9s and similar derp pistols popular with thugs at the time.

Stop acting like it's a brilliant idea.


Hey, you want to continue the argument from the other night?
Start by admitting you posted a falsehood about the video being edited. Until then, your comments don't hold much weight.
 
2014-04-09 05:50:21 PM  

omeganuepsilon: But can i get .22 ammo yet?


If you are lucky.  some are starting to show up on the shelves but you have to act fast.
 
2014-04-09 05:51:21 PM  

HeadLever: tripleseven: Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician that proposed legislation on said item once miss identified it.

FIFY.

If you can't even identify the damn thing, maybe quit trying to legislate it until you can actually educate yourself on what the hell you are talking about.


Again, this is your only argument?
 
2014-04-09 05:52:47 PM  

Ex-Texan: Is anyone old enough to remember the "Liberator" guns from WWII, they'd drop them behind enemy lines in Europe, it was a single shot .45, intended for close range, with a single .45 "dum-dum" round. made for short range targets, due to the smooth bore. I've head stories of people getting shot with those kinda rounds, they'll messed someone up when a round goes whizzing through the body, on a roller coaster ride. Nowadays it's different:
[www.therpf.com image 850x637]  Time to ban epoxy now, I guess?


I loved him in that movie where he played the retard. I have a cousin who is a retard and I appreciated the sensitive way he portrayed retards.

/he was also good in that movie where he was the jewel thief.
 
2014-04-09 05:54:09 PM  

tripleseven: Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire. firing bullets.


FTFY
 
2014-04-09 05:54:53 PM  

tripleseven: dittybopper: cameroncrazy1984: Turns out,  dittybopper, that words actually mean things outside the gun-nut lexicon.

So a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up?  And we should ban ghost gun .30 round assault clips that can fire 30 caliber bullets in half a second?

Words have meaning.  Gun-nuts invented those words.  We get to decide what they mean.

Oh for farks sake. Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician once miss identified it.


A politician who was trying to get something banned and had no clue what that something was.  Is it too much to ask that you actually know what the hell it is you're banning, Congressman?

A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire.

Therefore a barrel shroud assists the user to use the weapon with a hot barrel due to rapid fire. Its a perfectly rational argument in the assault rifle argument.


You know how many rounds it takes an average barrel to get too hot to hold?  One, maybe two or three.  Almost every rifle including bolt actions have some form of stock, handguard, shroud, or whatever.

But keep farking that chicken, I guess.

Yes, please do.  It's not gonna fark itself.
 
2014-04-09 05:54:59 PM  

Mikey1969: tripleseven: Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire. firing bullets.

FTFY


Uh huh.
 
KIA
2014-04-09 05:56:14 PM  
You're the same folks who claim that the right to vote is severely infringed by laws requiring that someone show a photo ID to prove they are voting only once in the correct district, aren't you?  You fought hard to get that overturned.  Why?  Because, rights!

But somehow requiring extensive BATF paperwork and background checks to exercise Second Amendment rights isn't an infringement.  Why? Because, wharrgarble!  And we need even greater infringements because wharrgarble II!

There are incidents of police abuse and brutality as well as any number of horrific crimes perpetrated against completely innocent people every day.  Well-established case law that says the police have no duty to come protect you personally.  Their duty is to the society as a whole, so if they can't get to you in time, that's pretty much too bad for you.

But if a person wants to keep a handgun concealed about their person to protect themselves, they should be subjected to mandatory licensing and regulations because... UNFOCUSED BUT ALL-ENCOMPASSING FEAR!

Look, we are a nation of rights.  Free speech, free religion, uninfringed right to keep and bear arms.  Any of these can be exercised for any reason at all or just because you feel like it.

You either believe in all of the rights or you don't.  Frankly, I don't care what you believe and I don't have to because I have my rights and I'm not giving them up.
 
2014-04-09 05:56:42 PM  

HeadLever: So you actually think that is the entire collection of these?  Are you that dumb or do you just play that way on Fark?


That is pretty much the entire history of these.

If there was a real threat of a gun ban, that list would all be 2012-2014 and full of Congressmen.

Seriously? Rosie O'Donnell in 1999? That's your evidence? Grasp at straws much?
 
2014-04-09 05:56:58 PM  

Farker Soze: tripleseven: dittybopper: cameroncrazy1984: Turns out,  dittybopper, that words actually mean things outside the gun-nut lexicon.

So a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up?  And we should ban ghost gun .30 round assault clips that can fire 30 caliber bullets in half a second?

Words have meaning.  Gun-nuts invented those words.  We get to decide what they mean.

Oh for farks sake. Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician once miss identified it.

A politician who was trying to get something banned and had no clue what that something was.  Is it too much to ask that you actually know what the hell it is you're banning, Congressman?

A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire.

Therefore a barrel shroud assists the user to use the weapon with a hot barrel due to rapid fire. Its a perfectly rational argument in the assault rifle argument.

You know how many rounds it takes an average barrel to get too hot to hold?  One, maybe two or three.  Almost every rifle including bolt actions have some form of stock, handguard, shroud, or whatever.

But keep farking that chicken, I guess.

Yes, please do.  It's not gonna fark itself.


Yes...I was a gun user for 15 years.

A gun barrel does not get too hot to touch from firing two or three bullets.

But I guess it makes you feel all smart like and stuff to spout falsehoods on the intertubes.
 
2014-04-09 05:57:38 PM  

tripleseven: USP .45: tripleseven: A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire

And most guns don't have them nor do they need them. It was legislation targeting TEC-9s and similar derp pistols popular with thugs at the time.

Stop acting like it's a brilliant idea.

Hey, you want to continue the argument from the other night?
Start by admitting you posted a falsehood about the video being edited. Until then, your comments don't hold much weight.


So because the unedited version exists it means no edited versions exist? Awesome logic. Then there's the overriding issue of emotionally involved people contributing to a public policy discussion, and your intent to claim that emotional arguments somehow hold more weight than reasoned ones. And now you're still on this epic retardation surrounding barrel shrouds. So no, I don't even want to continue.
 
KIA
2014-04-09 05:59:19 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: I'm farking hating how the price of ammo, especially .45ACP, is cutting into my range time.


Seriously.  Was there today and they want $30 a box.  Why, I remember when...
 
2014-04-09 06:00:00 PM  

Mikey1969: tripleseven: Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire. firing bullets.

FTFY


I already explained to him that the most popular firearm sold with a barrel shroud is a Biden approved Mossberg shotgun that holds an absolutely astonishing 8-9 shells.

He thinks this makes it a machine gun.
 
2014-04-09 06:00:20 PM  

tripleseven: Again, this is your only argument?


Nope, but it hits the nail on the head.  These dumbasses are trying to legislate things which they obviously know nothing about.  Don't even try to suggest that they become educated about the topic.  I guess the 'we must pass it to find out what is in it' mentality is still alive and well.
 
2014-04-09 06:00:35 PM  

tripleseven: Farker Soze: tripleseven: dittybopper: cameroncrazy1984: Turns out,  dittybopper, that words actually mean things outside the gun-nut lexicon.

So a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up?  And we should ban ghost gun .30 round assault clips that can fire 30 caliber bullets in half a second?

Words have meaning.  Gun-nuts invented those words.  We get to decide what they mean.

Oh for farks sake. Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician once miss identified it.

A politician who was trying to get something banned and had no clue what that something was.  Is it too much to ask that you actually know what the hell it is you're banning, Congressman?

A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire.

Therefore a barrel shroud assists the user to use the weapon with a hot barrel due to rapid fire. Its a perfectly rational argument in the assault rifle argument.

You know how many rounds it takes an average barrel to get too hot to hold?  One, maybe two or three.  Almost every rifle including bolt actions have some form of stock, handguard, shroud, or whatever.

But keep farking that chicken, I guess.

Yes, please do.  It's not gonna fark itself.

Yes...I was a gun user for 15 years.

A gun barrel does not get too hot to touch from firing two or three bullets.

But I guess it makes you feel all smart like and stuff to spout falsehoods on the intertubes.


Right.  Your bull barrel .22 made you an expert, eh?
 
2014-04-09 06:02:52 PM  

tripleseven: dittybopper: cameroncrazy1984: Turns out,  dittybopper, that words actually mean things outside the gun-nut lexicon.

So a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up?  And we should ban ghost gun .30 round assault clips that can fire 30 caliber bullets in half a second?

Words have meaning.  Gun-nuts invented those words.  We get to decide what they mean.

Oh for farks sake. Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician once miss identified it.

A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire.

Therefore a barrel shroud assists the user to use the weapon with a hot barrel due to rapid fire. Its a perfectly rational argument in the assault rifle argument.

But keep farking that chicken, I guess.


Huh, I guess I should tell my bolt action nagant to stop firing so fast; then I won't need a wooden barrel shroud.

/ you don't need to fire rapidly to get your barrel hot; even my over-under shotgun has a partial barrel shroud
 
2014-04-09 06:02:55 PM  

USP .45: tripleseven: USP .45: tripleseven: A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire

And most guns don't have them nor do they need them. It was legislation targeting TEC-9s and similar derp pistols popular with thugs at the time.

Stop acting like it's a brilliant idea.

Hey, you want to continue the argument from the other night?
Start by admitting you posted a falsehood about the video being edited. Until then, your comments don't hold much weight.

So because the unedited version exists it means no edited versions exist? Awesome logic. Then there's the overriding issue of emotionally involved people contributing to a public policy discussion, and your intent to claim that emotional arguments somehow hold more weight than reasoned ones. And now you're still on this epic retardation surrounding barrel shrouds. So no, I don't even want to continue.


I made a statement concerning the actions of teabaggers at a town hall.
You said my statement was false and the video was edited. I then posted the complete unedited video which was exactly to my statement.

Oh yeah, barrel shrouds, why am I still on them? Cause every gun thread will include multiple people reciting the Diane feistein thing. As if its the only argument. Well, that politician lady once misidentified a gun part so therefore all gun legislation is moot...derp!

Are you going to tell me again that all Mossberg 500 series have barrel shroubds? That's also provably false, so no wonder you don't want to continue.
 
2014-04-09 06:03:16 PM  

dr_blasto: My wife told me I seemed to love my guns more than my family. I told her that wasn't true. Little Timmy isn't going to college because it is full of liberals, not because I cashed out the college fund to buy another AR-15.


Little Timmy didn't have that big of a fund to begin with if all you got was 1 AR-15.
 
2014-04-09 06:03:32 PM  

impaler: That is pretty much the entire history of these.


lol, no.  Notice the absence of Michael Moore quotes?  Of course not.  you are not paid to be logical, are you?
 
2014-04-09 06:03:36 PM  

USP .45: Mikey1969: tripleseven: Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire. firing bullets.

FTFY

I already explained to him that the most popular firearm sold with a barrel shroud is a Biden approved Mossberg shotgun that holds an absolutely astonishing 8-9 shells.

He thinks this makes it a machine gun.


That is not what you said.
 
2014-04-09 06:03:48 PM  
Guns R Us now includes a bottle of Viagra with any gun purchase...
 
2014-04-09 06:04:04 PM  

tripleseven: dittybopper: cameroncrazy1984: Turns out,  dittybopper, that words actually mean things outside the gun-nut lexicon.

So a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up?  And we should ban ghost gun .30 round assault clips that can fire 30 caliber bullets in half a second?

Words have meaning.  Gun-nuts invented those words.  We get to decide what they mean.

Oh for farks sake. Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician once miss identified it.

A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire.

Therefore a barrel shroud assists the user to use the weapon with a hot barrel due to rapid fire. Its a perfectly rational argument in the assault rifle argument.

But keep farking that chicken, I guess.


It takes exactly 5 rounds of .38 +P ammunition from my snubnose revolver, one cylinder,  to make the barrel too hot to touch.

Keep farking that chicken indeed.
 
2014-04-09 06:04:38 PM  

tripleseven: Are you going to tell me again that all Mossberg 500 series have barrel shroubds? That's also provably false


I'm glad it's false, because lacking a shroud would make zero difference in being able to sustain fire with it. You don't hold it by the barrel genius.
 
2014-04-09 06:05:20 PM  

tripleseven: Farker Soze: tripleseven: dittybopper: cameroncrazy1984: Turns out,  dittybopper, that words actually mean things outside the gun-nut lexicon.

So a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up?  And we should ban ghost gun .30 round assault clips that can fire 30 caliber bullets in half a second?

Words have meaning.  Gun-nuts invented those words.  We get to decide what they mean.

Oh for farks sake. Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician once miss identified it.

A politician who was trying to get something banned and had no clue what that something was.  Is it too much to ask that you actually know what the hell it is you're banning, Congressman?

A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire.

Therefore a barrel shroud assists the user to use the weapon with a hot barrel due to rapid fire. Its a perfectly rational argument in the assault rifle argument.

You know how many rounds it takes an average barrel to get too hot to hold?  One, maybe two or three.  Almost every rifle including bolt actions have some form of stock, handguard, shroud, or whatever.

But keep farking that chicken, I guess.

Yes, please do.  It's not gonna fark itself.

Yes...I was a gun user for 15 years.

A gun barrel does not get too hot to touch from firing two or three bullets.

But I guess it makes you feel all smart like and stuff to spout falsehoods on the intertubes.


It really depends on the gun. Manual actions heat up faster than self loading ones because the heat doesn't have time to conduct through the brass and reach the chamber before the case is ejected. Larger rounds that burn more powder make more heat obviously. Less overbore rounds may heat up the barrel faster due to the greater surface area of exposed bore.

I love it when someone was in the military and got to use all of 3 different firearms (and then usually only for an annual qualification) and think it makes them an expert.
 
2014-04-09 06:05:51 PM  

USP .45: tripleseven: Are you going to tell me again that all Mossberg 500 series have barrel shroubds? That's also provably false

I'm glad it's false, because lacking a shroud would make zero difference in being able to sustain fire with it. You don't hold it by the barrel genius.


Goalpost shift. Nice.
 
2014-04-09 06:05:59 PM  

clarksvegas: Here's the logic shark jump I like to make. What if that cop had not used a gun, and say an ax or butcher knife.


My understanding is that usually cops use stairs when a gun isn't handy.
 
2014-04-09 06:06:07 PM  

lamric: ultraholland: gravy chugging cretin.: Are you intimidated yet?

[img.fark.net image 850x566]

of the patriotic gimp? Slightly.

American flag outfit with an AK?  Seems conflicted.


Not at all.  Even in the heart of Soviet communism a single man picked himself up by the bootstraps and invented a tool that has been sold worldwide.  Then in true American fashion, he was screwed out of the money he should have been earning.  What's more American than bootstraps and getting screwed by the government?
 
2014-04-09 06:09:23 PM  

JesseL: Manual actions heat up faster than self loading ones because the heat doesn't have time to conduct through the brass and reach the chamber before the case is ejected.


Which would explain why a pump action Mossberg might have a barrel shroud, whereas a military grade semi auto Benelli doesn't, despite the fact that the Benelli can fire faster.

Barrel shroud idiocy 2014.
 
2014-04-09 06:11:25 PM  

JesseL: tripleseven: Farker Soze: tripleseven: dittybopper: cameroncrazy1984: Turns out,  dittybopper, that words actually mean things outside the gun-nut lexicon.

So a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up?  And we should ban ghost gun .30 round assault clips that can fire 30 caliber bullets in half a second?

Words have meaning.  Gun-nuts invented those words.  We get to decide what they mean.

Oh for farks sake. Another gun nut trotting out the "barrel shroud' argument because a politician once miss identified it.

A politician who was trying to get something banned and had no clue what that something was.  Is it too much to ask that you actually know what the hell it is you're banning, Congressman?

A barrel shroud allows a gun user to protect himself from a hot barrel. Howdo you get a hot barrel? Rapid fire.

Therefore a barrel shroud assists the user to use the weapon with a hot barrel due to rapid fire. Its a perfectly rational argument in the assault rifle argument.

You know how many rounds it takes an average barrel to get too hot to hold?  One, maybe two or three.  Almost every rifle including bolt actions have some form of stock, handguard, shroud, or whatever.

But keep farking that chicken, I guess.

Yes, please do.  It's not gonna fark itself.

Yes...I was a gun user for 15 years.

A gun barrel does not get too hot to touch from firing two or three bullets.

But I guess it makes you feel all smart like and stuff to spout falsehoods on the intertubes.

It really depends on the gun. Manual actions heat up faster than self loading ones because the heat doesn't have time to conduct through the brass and reach the chamber before the case is ejected. Larger rounds that burn more powder make more heat obviously. Less overbore rounds may heat up the barrel faster due to the greater surface area of exposed bore.

I love it when someone was in the military and got to use all of 3 different firearms (and then usually only for an annual qualification) and think it makes them an expert.


If your comment was to me, no I was never in the military.
 
2014-04-09 06:12:52 PM  

drew46n2: dittybopper: The problem is that the people who hate guns the most know absolutely nothing about them.


again, rule #4. Dismiss valid criticism of gun violence and lax gun laws because the person doesn't have an obsession with the intricacies of firearms that enthusiasts do.

You can ignore the pile of bodies because someone said clip instead of mag, or auto instead of semi. Deflect and Deny, classic.


And yet you morons get all huffy when legislators try to ban Vaping supplies because they don't know the intricacies or differences between vaping and smoking a cigarette. You think that MAYBE the people making the laws should have more than a lousy movie-based knowledge of something before writing laws about it?
 
2014-04-09 06:12:59 PM  

tripleseven: USP .45: tripleseven: Are you going to tell me again that all Mossberg 500 series have barrel shroubds? That's also provably false

I'm glad it's false, because lacking a shroud would make zero difference in being able to sustain fire with it. You don't hold it by the barrel genius.

Goalpost shift. Nice.


No no sweetie, when the entire crux of your argument is that a barrel shroud allows for rapid fire, me stating that a shroud would make zero difference on any Mossberg's rate of fire isn't shifting the goalposts.

If anything, it's shifting them to exactly what you were trying to argue and burying that idiocy in the dirt. You should thank me for being so accommodating.
 
2014-04-09 06:13:27 PM  

JesseL: It really depends on the gun. Manual actions heat up faster than self loading ones because the heat doesn't have time to conduct through the brass and reach the chamber before the case is ejected. Larger rounds that burn more powder make more heat obviously. Less overbore rounds may heat up the barrel faster due to the greater surface area of exposed bore.

I love it when someone was in the military and got to use all of 3 different firearms (and then usually only for an annual qualification) and think it makes them an expert.


Yep, as someone that shoots high volume small caliber (17 and 20 calibers) you can shoot for quite a time until the barrel gets too hot.  However, also shooting high quality rifles, you do need to keep an eye on it as a hot barrel will erode the lands and rifling much quicker than a cool barrel.  For my experience, if you can't keep you hand on the barrel it is time to let it cool.

/about 4k rounds through my .204 barrel and still shoots very well.
 
2014-04-09 06:15:35 PM  
tripleseven: USP .45: tripleseven: Are you going to tell me again that all Mossberg 500 series have barrel shroubds? That's also provably false

I'm glad it's false, because lacking a shroud would make zero difference in being able to sustain fire with it. You don't hold it by the barrel genius.

Goalpost shift. Nice.


No, you don't hold it by the barrel, but you very well may come into contact with it after shooting and the shroud is a barrier against contacting a hot surface. His posts didn't shift; he explained that it doesn't functionally affect the firing. Your failure to understand does not render his post incorrect.
 
2014-04-09 06:16:34 PM  

tripleseven: If your comment was to me, no I was never in the military.


That was an assumption on my part. Mea Culpa.

So where did you get your 15 years of experience? What sorts of guns were you shooting?
 
2014-04-09 06:20:38 PM  

ultraholland: tripleseven: USP .45: tripleseven: Are you going to tell me again that all Mossberg 500 series have barrel shroubds? That's also provably false

I'm glad it's false, because lacking a shroud would make zero difference in being able to sustain fire with it. You don't hold it by the barrel genius.

Goalpost shift. Nice.

No, you don't hold it by the barrel, but you very well may come into contact with it after shooting and the shroud is a barrier against contacting a hot surface. His posts didn't shift; he explained that it doesn't functionally affect the firing. Your failure to understand does not render his post incorrect.


"It's a benefit that directly assists in enabling the user to fire at a high rate of speed." ~tripleseven 2014-04-02 09:35:58
 
2014-04-09 06:21:51 PM  

USP .45: tripleseven: USP .45: tripleseven: Are you going to tell me again that all Mossberg 500 series have barrel shroubds? That's also provably false

I'm glad it's false, because lacking a shroud would make zero difference in being able to sustain fire with it. You don't hold it by the barrel genius.

Goalpost shift. Nice.

No no sweetie, when the entire crux of your argument is that a barrel shroud allows for rapid fire, me stating that a shroud would make zero difference on any Mossberg's rate of fire isn't shifting the goalposts.

If anything, it's shifting them to exactly what you were trying to argue and burying that idiocy in the dirt. You should thank me for being so accommodating.


Wow...I never once stated that a barrel shroud allows for rapid fire. Not once. I said a barrel shroud assists the user in handling a gun that's barrel is hot due to rapid fire.

Rapid fire causing the hot barrel of course.

Read.
 
2014-04-09 06:23:19 PM  

USP .45: ultraholland: tripleseven: USP .45: tripleseven: Are you going to tell me again that all Mossberg 500 series have barrel shroubds? That's also provably false

I'm glad it's false, because lacking a shroud would make zero difference in being able to sustain fire with it. You don't hold it by the barrel genius.

Goalpost shift. Nice.

No, you don't hold it by the barrel, but you very well may come into contact with it after shooting and the shroud is a barrier against contacting a hot surface. His posts didn't shift; he explained that it doesn't functionally affect the firing. Your failure to understand does not render his post incorrect.

"It's a benefit that directly assists in enabling the user to fire at a high rate of speed." ~tripleseven 2014-04-02 09:35:58


See my last post.
 
2014-04-09 06:23:43 PM  

tripleseven: Wow...I never once stated that a barrel shroud allows for rapid fire. Not once. I said a barrel shroud assists the user in handling a gun that's barrel is hot due to rapid fire.


LOL

"It's a benefit that directly assists in enabling the user to fire at a high rate of speed." -you

http://www.fark.com/comments/8204977/90096055#c90096055
 
2014-04-09 06:23:50 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Not at all.  Even in the heart of Soviet communism a single man picked himself up by the bootstraps and invented a tool that has been sold worldwide.  Then in true American fashion, he was screwed out of the money he should have been earning.  What's more American than bootstraps and getting screwed by the government?


Since I missed your post the other day, I don't shoot .22 much as I am trying to make my small stockpile last.  I shoot mostly .17 and .20 caliber centerfire these days in bolt guns.
 
2014-04-09 06:25:55 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: The entire gun debate is meant to fleece suckers.


DING! It's just an industry drumming up demand by using fear. It's amusing to watch the reactionary paranoids falling for it, especially with the ammo.

"Oh shiat, the government is buying up all the ammo! Glenn Beck said so! Probably preparing for their disarming campaign ahead of MARTIAL LAW! I better go buy as much as I can!"

Multiply this idiocy by a few million, fast forward a few months:

"OMG! There's an ammo shortage! It's happening! I better buy as much as I can now before it's too late! You'll never take me alive Bareefer Obonghit!!!"

Farking retards.
 
2014-04-09 06:27:29 PM  

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2014-04-09 06:27:34 PM  

JesseL: tripleseven: If your comment was to me, no I was never in the military.

That was an assumption on my part. Mea Culpa.

So where did you get your 15 years of experience? What sorts of guns were you shooting?


Raised in a hunting family with multiple firearms. Rifles/shotguns/handguns. Including even an ar15! My fathers idea of bonding was to take his sons shooting.
 
2014-04-09 06:28:24 PM  

ultraholland: redmid17: That's the one he specifically let die in court before he signed it because it was a rider attached to the largest economic bill he signed?

my understanding is that similar rules died under Bush, and this was attached to the Credit CARD Act.


Bush pushed the rule, courts blocked it with an injunction after he left office, Obama let it die without a challenge, and he signed the CC act with it as a rider.
 
2014-04-09 06:29:13 PM  

USP .45: tripleseven: Wow...I never once stated that a barrel shroud allows for rapid fire. Not once. I said a barrel shroud assists the user in handling a gun that's barrel is hot due to rapid fire.

LOL

"It's a benefit that directly assists in enabling the user to fire at a high rate of speed." -you

http://www.fark.com/comments/8204977/90096055#c90096055


Yes...but your post above incorrectly asserted that I said a barrel shroud allows the GUN to fire faster.
 
2014-04-09 06:29:15 PM  

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2014-04-09 06:29:34 PM  

tripleseven: Wow...I never once stated that a barrel shroud allows for rapid fire. Not once


Nope. Lie.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8204977/90095757#c90095757

 

tripleseven: I said a barrel shroud assists the user in handling a gun that's barrel is hot due to rapid fire.


Nope. Lie. That's what said. It's a marginal benefit not prohibiting or enabling slow/rapid fire.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8204977/90095435#c90095435
 
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