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2014-04-09 08:35:55 AM
62 people (30 men, 32 women) were confronted with a confederate wearing a large leg brace, who dropped a stack of magazines and feigned difficulty retrieving them.

They were probably Yankees.
 
2014-04-09 09:16:39 AM

Sybarite: 62 people (30 men, 32 women) were confronted with a confederate wearing a large leg brace, who dropped a stack of magazines and feigned difficulty retrieving them.

They were probably Yankees.


Yeah, I mean if they hurt their leg trying to defend Vicksburg or something, I don't know how eager I'd be to help out.
 
2014-04-09 09:50:04 AM
Or just a teenage girl.

/swear some of them have their phones surgically grafted to their ears
 
2014-04-09 09:54:12 AM
"Why don't you mind your own business?!"

"Why don't you stop making your business everyone else's?!"
 
2014-04-09 09:54:50 AM
 
2014-04-09 09:55:45 AM
a confederate wearing a large leg brace, who dropped a stack of magazines and feigned difficulty retrieving them

This always happens on the anniversary of Lee's surrender at Appomattox.  It's a heritage thing.
 
2014-04-09 09:57:02 AM
As long as you're not doing it while you're driving or in the same movie theatre I'm in, no sweat.

In those two instances, however, you deserve to die.
 
2014-04-09 09:59:41 AM
People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.

Why do I want to know what the vet said about your cat's rash?  Oh.... I see.
 
2014-04-09 10:04:47 AM
You are not that important.  Put the f*cking phone down.
 
2014-04-09 10:08:34 AM
fark the confederates... you lost the war, pick up your own damn magazines!
 
2014-04-09 10:09:23 AM
I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb
 
2014-04-09 10:10:22 AM
"Hold on I need to get my cell phone out of my pocket..."

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2014-04-09 10:11:31 AM
No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.
 
2014-04-09 10:14:11 AM
The difference between a crazy guy yammering to himself at the bus stop and social acceptability is a Bluetooth earpiece.
 
2014-04-09 10:14:30 AM
I don't even answer my phone if I am in public...
 
2014-04-09 10:16:47 AM
lets ask Diamond "Diggity" Dave

before cell phone use:

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

after cell phone use:

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2014-04-09 10:17:33 AM
What makes you an asshole is your attitude and behavior to the cellphone you carry in public.
 
2014-04-09 10:18:19 AM

lemurs: The difference between a crazy guy yammering to himself at the bus stop and social acceptability is a Bluetooth earpiece.


People on those earpieces piss me off more than cell phones, especially when you're like inside a grocery store and the person is talking to you and you're like 'huh? What?' and then they turn sideways and they've got that f*cking earpiece on. It's like they were taken over by those f*cking ear zombie slugs from Star Trek or something.
 
2014-04-09 10:18:59 AM
You mean there are still people alive that fought in the Civil War??

/Amazing!!
 
2014-04-09 10:19:09 AM

CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole


Flashback to being stuck @ Helsinki international and being treated to 1.5hours+ of  self-infatuated German a-hole prattling on at something just a whisker below screaming....

He was eventually standing in the middle of an empty concourse blissfully unaware of the death glares of his victims...

Standard volume, away from the flow of foot traffic - cool, go wild. Blocking the entrance to an escalator, middle of a restaurant or at a theatre or public event? Kill yourself.
 
2014-04-09 10:20:17 AM

gopher321: Or just a teenage girl.

/swear some of them have their phones surgically grafted to their ears


Borg implants
Just get it over with
 
2014-04-09 10:20:20 AM

CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.


I yelled at a man about this once. Once.
 
2014-04-09 10:20:40 AM

CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.


this. if you are discreet no problem.. if i have no choice but to hear every word that puts me in a choking mood.
 
2014-04-09 10:25:57 AM
Let us not forget the idiots at the gym who are talking on their cells while their ass is parked on the piece of equipment you've been waiting to use.  No, just being at the gym isn't a form of exercise, Einstein.
 
2014-04-09 10:28:13 AM

bdub77: lemurs: The difference between a crazy guy yammering to himself at the bus stop and social acceptability is a Bluetooth earpiece.

People on those earpieces piss me off more than cell phones, especially when you're like inside a grocery store and the person is talking to you and you're like 'huh? What?' and then they turn sideways and they've got that f*cking earpiece on. It's like they were taken over by those f*cking ear zombie slugs from Star Trek or something.


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2014-04-09 10:30:28 AM
I talk on the phone while in the grocery store, but always get off the phone when I get in line to pay.
 
2014-04-09 10:30:51 AM
I rarely talk on my phone, and when I do it is for maybe 1 minute tops. But I'm not about to start wasting brain power worrying about talking on a phone in public. Sure, in a library or movie theater where any noise ruins other peoples experience, but otherwise why care?

As far as being distracted and unable to help others in need, if someone finds a place where no one is around to talk, the odds of them helping someone in distress drops to 0%.
 
2014-04-09 10:32:15 AM

Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.

Why do I want to know what the vet said about your cat's rash?  Oh.... I see.


It also makes it harder to spot the skitzo nuts having conversations with themselves.
 
2014-04-09 10:35:01 AM
The train.   There needs to be federal death penalty law for people who do it on the train.
 
2014-04-09 10:35:15 AM

Elemental79:  why care?


Because your distracted meandering is obstructive and nobody cares about the technical intricacies of your prostrate exam?
 
2014-04-09 10:39:19 AM
Son! I say, Son, When was the last time you saw someone on their cellphone and had the thought run thru the windmills of your mind that "That is a really cool person"?

Like picking your nose, or drinking alone, best done alone.
 
2014-04-09 10:41:09 AM
Oh how cute, a bunch of "GIT OFF MAH LAWN" anti-progress types in this thread...
 
2014-04-09 10:42:59 AM

vharshyde: anti-progress types in this thread...


So being selfishly anti-social is pro-progress?

You sound cute. Wanna have some babies?
 
2014-04-09 10:48:48 AM

rev. dave: I talk on the phone while in the grocery store, but always get off the phone when I get in line to pay.


Out of curiosity, why would you have a need to be on the phone while grocery shopping?  For that matter, when did phones become so absolutely necessary during all times of the day?  I mean, it's not like people carried bags of quarters to use on pay-phones back in the day.
 
2014-04-09 10:49:26 AM

vharshyde: Oh how cute, a bunch of "GIT OFF MAH LAWN" anti-progress types in this thread...


On one hand, people need to learn to mind their own damn business.
On the other hand, I believe this world is seriously lacking in empathy.  If people didn't walk around so self-absorbed and thought of others/put themselves in other people's shoes, the world would be so much better.
I'm 33 years old and not sure if the lack of empathy and consideration is getting worse, but everything would sure as hell be much better if there was more thoughts of those around you.
 
2014-04-09 10:50:07 AM

lewismarktwo: I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb



I sure hope that story is true.  If it is, I'd like to buy you a beer.
 
2014-04-09 10:50:41 AM
Some people get a little ticked when they are trying to eavesdrop on other people's conversations but they can only hear half of the conversation.  It's like they can't help sticking their noses into other people's business and once it's there there is a certain level of convenience expected.
 
2014-04-09 10:50:43 AM
I just don't understand why it is illegal for me to have (and use) a cell phone jammer.

Annoying phone user nearby? Boop!
 
2014-04-09 10:50:57 AM
And to think there are people who actually want cell phone usage to be approved on airplanes.
 
2014-04-09 10:50:58 AM

CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.


Not real fond of being in an elevator with someone using their phone.  Thanks for letting me share your phone booth, twit.
 
2014-04-09 10:51:44 AM

MelGoesOnTour: rev. dave: I talk on the phone while in the grocery store, but always get off the phone when I get in line to pay.

Out of curiosity, why would you have a need to be on the phone while grocery shopping?  For that matter, when did phones become so absolutely necessary during all times of the day?  I mean, it's not like people carried bags of quarters to use on pay-phones back in the day.


To check with the wife about what I need to get for dinner.  Or she called to ask me to get something she forgot to tell me before.
 
2014-04-09 10:51:46 AM
Please. Won't someone think of the poor magazine droppers?
 
2014-04-09 10:52:15 AM

Buttknuckle: You are not that important.  Put the f*cking phone down.


What does being important have to do with talking to people? Personally, I like people and frequently talk with them. Why that should be restricted to important people is beyond me.
 
2014-04-09 10:53:09 AM

vharshyde: Oh how cute, a bunch of "GIT OFF MAH LAWN" anti-progress types in this thread...


Rudeness is not progress.  Being rude to others while using your new cool toy is simply being an asshole.  Let's separate behavior from technology, ok?
 
2014-04-09 10:53:26 AM
Hey, if it keeps them from striking up a conversation with me, then they can use their cell phones as much as they want.
 
2014-04-09 10:54:05 AM

meanmutton: Buttknuckle: You are not that important.  Put the f*cking phone down.

What does being important have to do with talking to people? Personally, I like people and frequently talk with them. Why that should be restricted to important people is beyond me.


Stop it.  You are not important enough to talk to other people.  These other people are tired of your shenanigans and have asked me to request that you no longer speak to them.
 
2014-04-09 10:54:09 AM
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2014-04-09 10:54:09 AM
Was in the rest room of the office building where I work, and this dipshiat answers the phone in the stall. I was in the stall next to her and could not for the life of me why she wouldn't call the person back.  What if someone was in there leaving a deposit?
 
2014-04-09 10:54:39 AM
Just use the opportunity of women distracted by their cell phones to take upskirt photos.
 
2014-04-09 10:54:41 AM

Matthew Keene: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.

Why do I want to know what the vet said about your cat's rash?  Oh.... I see.

It also makes it harder to spot the skitzo nuts having conversations with themselves.


On the plus side, it helps the people with invisible friends seem normal.
 
2014-04-09 10:54:52 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: And to think there are people who actually want cell phone usage to be approved on airplanes.


I just want to play solitaire from one coast to the other.
 
2014-04-09 10:55:07 AM

techgeek07: The train.   There needs to be federal death penalty law for people who do it on the train.


Why?
 
2014-04-09 10:55:42 AM

sandi_fish: Was in the rest room of the office building where I work, and this dipshiat answers the phone in the stall. I was in the stall next to her and could not for the life of me why she wouldn't call the person back.  What if someone was in there leaving a deposit?


Better than making a withdrawal, I guess.
 
2014-04-09 10:57:40 AM
Talking on cellphones and BT devices isn't the problem. It's the people who don't realize that they are distance communication devices and feel the need to scream. You don't need to yell into your cellphone or headset, that's really all that matters.

As for the "Everyone who uses a cellphone in public is an asshole" people, I don't believe that those people have never used their cellphone in public, so they can eat a dick.
 
2014-04-09 10:58:12 AM

sandi_fish: Was in the rest room of the office building where I work, and this dipshiat answers the phone in the stall. I was in the stall next to her and could not for the life of me why she wouldn't call the person back.  What if someone was in there leaving a deposit?


You should have started banging on the stall doors and making farting and shiatting noises and screaming "OH MY GOD THIS MASSIVE SH*T WILL JUST NOT COME OUT!!!!"
 
2014-04-09 11:03:04 AM

sedric: CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.

this. if you are discreet no problem.. if i have no choice but to hear every word that puts me in a choking mood.


I have no problem with people who are talking at the volume they would if they were having a one on one conversation with someone sitting with them. Despite the FarkRage, most people do this. There are always going to be exceptions, though. Got to listen to one chick on the train the other day yell at her baby daddy, then yell to someone else how she had to stop at one stop to see the baby daddy, then would get back on the train and met her, then she yelled at her baby daddy again, then got on the phone with another friend or family member to complain about the baby daddy, then the baby daddy again. This was all after I moved to the other end of the train car since she had a stroller... Those are the people who are the problem.
 
2014-04-09 11:03:33 AM
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2014-04-09 11:04:08 AM

Galloping Galoshes: CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.

Not real fond of being in an elevator with someone using their phone.  Thanks for letting me share your phone booth, twit.


I pretend elevators scare me or I'm claustrophobic and the only way to calm myself down...is to SING.

Loudly. And badly.
 
2014-04-09 11:04:27 AM

Sybarite: 62 people (30 men, 32 women) were confronted with a confederate wearing a large leg brace, who dropped a stack of magazines and feigned difficulty retrieving them.

They were probably Yankees.


Really, this was handled here. Done in one. last one to leave, please turn out the lights.
 
2014-04-09 11:05:24 AM

Galloping Galoshes: vharshyde: Oh how cute, a bunch of "GIT OFF MAH LAWN" anti-progress types in this thread...

Rudeness is not progress.  Being rude to others while using your new cool toy is simply being an asshole.  Let's separate behavior from technology, ok?


Your comment makes no sense. The people in this thread who are having trouble separating the behavior from the technology are the Luddites who think that just because a cell phone is involved, normal behavior becomes rude.

Yelling into your phone is rude because yelling in public is rude. Ignoring someone you're supposed to be interacting with in favor of someone you're in the phone with is rude not because of the phone, but because you're ignoring someone.

This weird thing where the exact same behavior is somehow unacceptable because of the technology is what vharshyde was talking about.
 
2014-04-09 11:06:01 AM

lewismarktwo: I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb


That totally happened.
 
2014-04-09 11:06:40 AM

Mikey1969: Talking on cellphones and BT devices isn't the problem. It's the people who don't realize that they are distance communication devices and feel the need to scream. You don't need to yell into your cellphone or headset, that's really all that matters.

As for the "Everyone who uses a cellphone in public is an asshole" people, I don't believe that those people have never used their cellphone in public, so they can eat a dick.


Totally agree.
 
2014-04-09 11:07:14 AM

Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.

Why do I want to know what the vet said about your cat's rash?  Oh.... I see.


It's not so bad if they're dialed in to a phone sex line.
 
2014-04-09 11:08:23 AM
I've been known to talk to people who are wandering aimlessly while chatting on a phone in the crowded grocery aisles.

"Excuse me, you're blocking the aisle, people need to get by."  "Pardon me, I need to get that product that you're camping in front of."

Seriously, I hate shopping, I want to buy what I want and leave, I don't want to have to dodge zombies.  I'm perfectly polite and patient to old people doddering along slowly, but I have no empathy for selfish clowns on cell phones.
 
2014-04-09 11:08:42 AM

Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.



omg, that drives me nuts.
Plus...  It's one thing to have the thing on while your driving, or your hands are otherwise occupied.  But many times, people will just sit there wearing it, as if the most important call in the universe might happen at any moment.
They look like idiots.
 
2014-04-09 11:09:29 AM
Cell phone jammers.
That is all.
 
2014-04-09 11:10:07 AM

sandi_fish: lewismarktwo: I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb


I sure hope that story is true.  If it is, I'd like to buy you a beer.


I've done that dozens of times... in my head. I would pay good money to see that happen in real life.
 
2014-04-09 11:11:39 AM

Diogenes: "Why don't you mind your own business?!"

"Why don't you stop making your business everyone else's?!"


1000x times, this!  I was at a Verizon store (big, open, endless waiting) and some woman was reading some poor shlub the riot act on her phone, talking about how he ruined her life, ruined their kids lives, etc at high volume.  So I merely started staring at her since it was obvious she wanted everyone to hear her conversation.  After a bit she noticed, got real quiet and then took it outside.

Seriously, I don't want to know your business.  Talk on your phone in the same tone and volume as you would talk to the person standing next to you.

Another good trick if they won't make eye contact with you, is to start talking right next to that person in the same volume as them.  Eventually they will get annoyed (go figure) and either quiet down or move away.
 
2014-04-09 11:13:55 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.


I want a portable one so that I can use it randomly on people, especially in traffic.
 
2014-04-09 11:16:14 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.


I had one a few years ago (ordered it from England) and it worked great! Had an effective radius of about 50-feet or so. It was fairly expensive so after a few weeks I wound up returning it.  It was a fairly simple looking device about the size and looks of a flip-phone (this was pre-smartphone days back when Blackberry was still popular). These days, though, what with 3G, 4G, etc., I'm not sure if there are any small jammers that are able to block everything.

If anyone knows of a full-spectrum-blocker (for lack of a better term), please do post an info-link!
 
2014-04-09 11:18:16 AM
This is one of those things I truly don't give a shiat about, and it makes me feel like an alien who landed on Earth to see people get so worked up over it. If someone is on their cell phone near me, I use it as just one more way to gather information about them to judge them by. Then Iaugh to myself and move along.
 
2014-04-09 11:19:40 AM

Mikey1969: Talking on cellphones and BT devices isn't the problem. It's the people who don't realize that they are distance communication devices and feel the need to scream. You don't need to yell into your cellphone or headset, that's really all that matters.

As for the "Everyone who uses a cellphone in public is an asshole" people, I don't believe that those people have never used their cellphone in public, so they can eat a dick.


There are a surprising number of people you just have a normal conversations at insane volume levels as well.  I'm sure a small percentage have hearing problems, but others just seem like they're afraid of being ignored.
 
2014-04-09 11:20:33 AM
I don't carry a cell phone

I'm a jerk naturally
 
2014-04-09 11:20:43 AM

MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.

I had one a few years ago (ordered it from England) and it worked great! Had an effective radius of about 50-feet or so. It was fairly expensive so after a few weeks I wound up returning it.  It was a fairly simple looking device about the size and looks of a flip-phone (this was pre-smartphone days back when Blackberry was still popular). These days, though, what with 3G, 4G, etc., I'm not sure if there are any small jammers that are able to block everything.

If anyone knows of a full-spectrum-blocker (for lack of a better term), please do post an info-link!


Ordered mine from China at a cost of $57 including shipping.
It takes out EVERYTHING, including WiFi.
Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.
 
2014-04-09 11:21:47 AM
While in Wal-mart I've been 'treated' to a rather large and loud lady yammering away on the phone as she slowly wandered along the displays. Then I came across another one having an energetic and equally loud gossip session as she pushed her cart right down the middle of the rows.

I really hate standing in line somewhere to check out -- which I consider the worst part of shopping anyhow -- and someone behind me is jabbering away on a cell. It makes it extra annoying when they're loudly going on in some language like Spanish or, increasingly, some African dialect.

I watched an elderly black lady come into a store, grab one of the power scooters and drive off, cell phone glued to her ear, loudly discussing something in Swahili or whatever, not really paying attention to where she was going. A short time later I came across her again, still on the phone, looking pi$$ed and about 30 minutes later, bumped into her again and she was still at it!

Now, the local Wal-mart has found a way to cut down on the jabber by installing these self checkout booths. You can't jabber much on a cell when using both hands to empty your cart, scan each item and respond to the frequent automatic requests of 'Please Scan The Item' or 'Please Place The Item In the Bagging Area'.

Wal-mart, I read once, has cell jammers installed across the stores to cut down on this, but it doesn't seem to make a difference or else not every store has them.

Maybe Publix does, because I rarely see anyone there blabbing away on a cell and if they do, it's usually at a decibel level that can't be heard three aisles away.
 
2014-04-09 11:25:03 AM

Ker_Thwap: Mikey1969: Talking on cellphones and BT devices isn't the problem. It's the people who don't realize that they are distance communication devices and feel the need to scream. You don't need to yell into your cellphone or headset, that's really all that matters.

As for the "Everyone who uses a cellphone in public is an asshole" people, I don't believe that those people have never used their cellphone in public, so they can eat a dick.

There are a surprising number of people you just have a normal conversations at insane volume levels as well.  I'm sure a small percentage have hearing problems, but others just seem like they're afraid of being ignored.


I was rather impressed the other day, there was a gaggle of high school girls sitting next to me having the typical high school girls' giggle fest, and they were actually talking at a relatively normal volume, all the more impressive because they were in the seats that face the center aisle, meaning that they were talking across the train car.
 
2014-04-09 11:27:17 AM

durbnpoisn: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.


omg, that drives me nuts.
Plus...  It's one thing to have the thing on while your driving, or your hands are otherwise occupied.  But many times, people will just sit there wearing it, as if the most important call in the universe might happen at any moment.
They look like idiots.


Either that or putting it in their pocket leads to it getting broken or lost, or harder to fetch when they get a call. See, I have one that's easier to where when I'm walking to the train station, riding the train, then driving. Otherwise, I'm spending half the time that my phone is ringing away fumbling the BT out, turning it on, sticking it on my ear, and trying to answer before the person hangs up.

But yeah, they probably care what you think, so we should send out a memo.
 
2014-04-09 11:34:16 AM
I don't know if it makes people bigger assholes, but it certainly makes the roads more dangerous. In the last two years I've been rear ended three times and all three times those farkers were talking or texting on their cell phones. Personally I think they should be outlawed, and not just in cars, but totally and completely outlawed. Cell phones are just too dangerous.
 
2014-04-09 11:34:32 AM

farm machine: [scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net image 612x960] 10:54:09


sandi_fish: Was in the rest room of the office building where I work, and this dipshiat answers the phone in the stall. I was in the stall next to her and could not for the life of me why she wouldn't call the person back.  What if someone was in there leaving a deposit?  10:54:09

Simulpost?  I'll allow it!

 
2014-04-09 11:36:41 AM

Mikey1969: Talking on cellphones and BT devices isn't the problem. It's the people who don't realize that they are distance communication devices and feel the need to scream. You don't need to yell into your cellphone or headset, that's really all that matters.

As for the "Everyone who uses a cellphone in public is an asshole" people, I don't believe that those people have never used their cellphone in public, so they can eat a dick.


Screw you asshole I don't even own a cell phone, never have, never will.


/I'm not kidding. Go take your electronic collar and put it around some one elses neck.
 
2014-04-09 11:37:21 AM

CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.


Or blocking people at the counter, in line, or whatnot while talking.

For the most part I think it can be summed up with one question: If the person you are talking to was next to you, would you still be an asshole?

If yes; you're an asshole.

If no; the whiners are the assholes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD254JDQAJU&t=0m25s

Back to TFA,  If I have a cell phone conversation, ending it abruptly means I'm being rude to that person, (and chances are good THEY called ME).  Walking on by from someone who appears to need assistance means I am also being rude, I have to make Sophie's Rudeness Choice.  This is not the case if I am not busy talking to someone.

Likewise, if I'm on the clock, or going to be late to something, I'm less likely to help someone out on the sidewalk because I am  busy and maybe risk getting fired for not keeping moving.

But most of the complaints I am seeing here are either far more than "just talking on a cell phone" or people who just hate people, and are assholes themselves.  Like some M. Night Shyamalan movie, you were the asshole all along.
 
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2014-04-09 11:37:28 AM

ph0rk: I just don't understand why it is illegal for me to have (and use) a cell phone jammer.

Annoying phone user nearby? Boop!


I just don't understand why it is illegal for me to have (and use) a cell phone 'sploder.

Annoying phone user nearby? BOOM!
 
2014-04-09 11:37:50 AM
So "I'm busy at this particular moment" == "Jerk" !?!?!?
 
2014-04-09 11:38:20 AM

Rik01: Wal-mart, I read once, has cell jammers installed across the stores to cut down on this, but it doesn't seem to make a difference or else not every store has them.


Asshole cell phone users got the jammers outlawed.
 
2014-04-09 11:40:29 AM

Mikey1969: durbnpoisn: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.


omg, that drives me nuts.
Plus...  It's one thing to have the thing on while your driving, or your hands are otherwise occupied.  But many times, people will just sit there wearing it, as if the most important call in the universe might happen at any moment.
They look like idiots.

Either that or putting it in their pocket leads to it getting broken or lost, or harder to fetch when they get a call. See, I have one that's easier to where when I'm walking to the train station, riding the train, then driving. Otherwise, I'm spending half the time that my phone is ringing away fumbling the BT out, turning it on, sticking it on my ear, and trying to answer before the person hangs up.

But yeah, they probably care what you think, so we should send out a memo.


Or you could just answer the ever-important call and say, "hang on while I grab my headset."
 
2014-04-09 11:41:35 AM

Matthew Keene: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.

Why do I want to know what the vet said about your cat's rash?  Oh.... I see.

It also makes it harder to spot the skitzo nuts having conversations with themselves.


I'm not so sure. I've never seen anyone in an expensive suit and Bluetooth headset shriek "I'll kill you, you farking coont bastard wanker" to a lamppost while clearly struggling with the extreme physical challenge of remaining upright. At ten o'clock in the morning.


/I love you, Scotland
 
2014-04-09 11:42:05 AM
No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.


NO. Pretty much all usage makes you an asshole. Just accept it.
 
2014-04-09 11:44:25 AM

Slaves2Darkness: Mikey1969: Talking on cellphones and BT devices isn't the problem. It's the people who don't realize that they are distance communication devices and feel the need to scream. You don't need to yell into your cellphone or headset, that's really all that matters.

As for the "Everyone who uses a cellphone in public is an asshole" people, I don't believe that those people have never used their cellphone in public, so they can eat a dick.

Screw you asshole I don't even own a cell phone, never have, never will.


/I'm not kidding. Go take your electronic collar and put it around some one elses neck.


Thank God you stay away from electronics, too. Those computers are bigger anchors then cell phones. If anyone ever tries to sell you a computer, run like crazy in the other direction. Don't even take time to shoot them first.
 
2014-04-09 11:45:23 AM

Galloping Galoshes: CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.

Not real fond of being in an elevator with someone using their phone.  Thanks for letting me share your phone booth, twit.


I got on the elevator in my building recently, 1 woman already in there, talking on her cell. I glanced at her and she said "do you mind? this is a private conversation". I said "and this is a public space..." and then stared at her for 15 floors.......
 
2014-04-09 11:45:33 AM

Galloping Galoshes: MelGoesOnTour: rev. dave: I talk on the phone while in the grocery store, but always get off the phone when I get in line to pay.

Out of curiosity, why would you have a need to be on the phone while grocery shopping?  For that matter, when did phones become so absolutely necessary during all times of the day?  I mean, it's not like people carried bags of quarters to use on pay-phones back in the day.

To check with the wife about what I need to get for dinner.  Or she called to ask me to get something she forgot to tell me before.


The grocery store is why text messages were invented.
 
2014-04-09 11:46:04 AM
Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.
 
2014-04-09 11:46:21 AM

jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.

I had one a few years ago (ordered it from England) and it worked great! Had an effective radius of about 50-feet or so. It was fairly expensive so after a few weeks I wound up returning it.  It was a fairly simple looking device about the size and looks of a flip-phone (this was pre-smartphone days back when Blackberry was still popular). These days, though, what with 3G, 4G, etc., I'm not sure if there are any small jammers that are able to block everything.

If anyone knows of a full-spectrum-blocker (for lack of a better term), please do post an info-link!

Ordered mine from China at a cost of $57 including shipping.
It takes out EVERYTHING, including WiFi.
Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.


"Man this one time a bunch of people were working on computers and talking to each other when I suddenly cut the power so they lost any unsaved work and were plunged into darkness, and I set off some alarm sirens just loud enough they couldn't talk to each other anymore.

Man, those people were such assholes, it was really funny!"

Also, "I mail ordered something then sent it back after playing with it because it was too expensive," = kind of a dick move.

Some people on cell phones are assholes, but there's a bible quote about motes and logs in eyes, or that thing about glass houses and throwing stones.
 
2014-04-09 11:46:35 AM

stonicus: fark the confederates... you lost the war, pick up your own damn magazines!


What a bunch of dunces, amirite!??!?
 
2014-04-09 11:48:45 AM

Beeblebrox: Diogenes: "Why don't you mind your own business?!"

"Why don't you stop making your business everyone else's?!"

1000x times, this!  I was at a Verizon store (big, open, endless waiting) and some woman was reading some poor shlub the riot act on her phone, talking about how he ruined her life, ruined their kids lives, etc at high volume.  So I merely started staring at her since it was obvious she wanted everyone to hear her conversation.  After a bit she noticed, got real quiet and then took it outside.

Seriously, I don't want to know your business.  Talk on your phone in the same tone and volume as you would talk to the person standing next to you.

Another good trick if they won't make eye contact with you, is to start talking right next to that person in the same volume as them.  Eventually they will get annoyed (go figure) and either quiet down or move away.


actually. Sounds like she didn't want everyone to know. But she got caught up in the moment. Once she noticed you staring at her, she got quiet and went outside.
 
2014-04-09 11:51:00 AM
So, when cell phones first became popular, I had teenage daughters and would mutter "stupid teenagers blocking the door" every time one lingered in a public doorway blocking foot traffic.  As time went by, I noticed the behavior was just as prevalent among the middle aged and elderly as well.  So now I mutter "stupid teenagers blocking the door" to the old people as well.
 
2014-04-09 11:52:53 AM

trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.


Eh, two old people blocking the aisle while they chat is just as annoying, it's just selfish behavior that pisses people off, not necessary the phone.
 
2014-04-09 11:53:09 AM

SpectroBoy: So "I'm busy at this particular moment" == "Jerk" !?!?!?



If you were talking with a friend who was walking beside you, and someone needed 1 minute of your time because they were crippled, would you help 'em?

I've already mentioned the differences between the two upthread, but I can understand the folk who don't immediately recognize those differences.
 
2014-04-09 11:54:19 AM

bdub77: sandi_fish: Was in the rest room of the office building where I work, and this dipshiat answers the phone in the stall. I was in the stall next to her and could not for the life of me why she wouldn't call the person back.  What if someone was in there leaving a deposit?

You should have started banging on the stall doors and making farting and shiatting noises and screaming "OH MY GOD THIS MASSIVE SH*T WILL JUST NOT COME OUT!!!!"


OH...OH GOD, I'M BLEEDING...IT'S THE SIZE OF A GODDAMN BASEBALL!!  OH THE AGONY!!!

/real story
// :(
 
2014-04-09 11:55:18 AM

durbnpoisn: Mikey1969: durbnpoisn: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.


omg, that drives me nuts.
Plus...  It's one thing to have the thing on while your driving, or your hands are otherwise occupied.  But many times, people will just sit there wearing it, as if the most important call in the universe might happen at any moment.
They look like idiots.

Either that or putting it in their pocket leads to it getting broken or lost, or harder to fetch when they get a call. See, I have one that's easier to where when I'm walking to the train station, riding the train, then driving. Otherwise, I'm spending half the time that my phone is ringing away fumbling the BT out, turning it on, sticking it on my ear, and trying to answer before the person hangs up.

But yeah, they probably care what you think, so we should send out a memo.

Or you could just answer the ever-important call and say, "hang on while I grab my headset."


Which is just idiotic. It changes NOTING on your end that I wear the headset in between calls. Seriously, I'm doing absolutely NOTHING to you if I wear the BT in between calls. I'm not even talking loudly to disturb your inner chorus. If the fact that I didn't take my headset out of my ear after the last call is what bothers you, you should probably just fark off and die. Nothing is ever going to make you happy, and you'll be the one who biatches the loudest. You should probably print up all of Fark, fold it so that it is all sharp edges, and shove the whole works up your ass one sheet at a time.
 
2014-04-09 11:57:14 AM
 
2014-04-09 11:57:18 AM

Mikey1969: durbnpoisn: Mikey1969: durbnpoisn: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.


omg, that drives me nuts.
Plus...  It's one thing to have the thing on while your driving, or your hands are otherwise occupied.  But many times, people will just sit there wearing it, as if the most important call in the universe might happen at any moment.
They look like idiots.

Either that or putting it in their pocket leads to it getting broken or lost, or harder to fetch when they get a call. See, I have one that's easier to where when I'm walking to the train station, riding the train, then driving. Otherwise, I'm spending half the time that my phone is ringing away fumbling the BT out, turning it on, sticking it on my ear, and trying to answer before the person hangs up.

But yeah, they probably care what you think, so we should send out a memo.

Or you could just answer the ever-important call and say, "hang on while I grab my headset."

Which is just idiotic. It changes NOTING on your end that I wear the headset in between calls. Seriously, I'm doing absolutely NOTHING to you if I wear the BT in between calls. I'm not even talking loudly to disturb your inner chorus. If the fact that I didn't take my headset out of my ear after the last call is what bothers you, you should probably just fark off and die. Nothing is ever going to make you happy, and you'll be the one who biatches the loudest. You should probably print up all of Fark, fold it so that it is all sharp edges, and shove the whole works up your ass one sheet at a time.


Haha...  Wow.
 
2014-04-09 11:57:53 AM

Buttknuckle: You are not that important.  Put the f*cking phone down.



Are you just getting out of jail after being locked up in the late 70's, early 80's? Cell phones are pretty standard for most people these days, not just CEO's and celebrities.
 
2014-04-09 11:58:03 AM

shtychkn: Beeblebrox: Diogenes: "Why don't you mind your own business?!"

"Why don't you stop making your business everyone else's?!"

1000x times, this!  I was at a Verizon store (big, open, endless waiting) and some woman was reading some poor shlub the riot act on her phone, talking about how he ruined her life, ruined their kids lives, etc at high volume.  So I merely started staring at her since it was obvious she wanted everyone to hear her conversation.  After a bit she noticed, got real quiet and then took it outside.

Seriously, I don't want to know your business.  Talk on your phone in the same tone and volume as you would talk to the person standing next to you.

Another good trick if they won't make eye contact with you, is to start talking right next to that person in the same volume as them.  Eventually they will get annoyed (go figure) and either quiet down or move away.

actually. Sounds like she didn't want everyone to know. But she got caught up in the moment. Once she noticed you staring at her, she got quiet and went outside.


Nah, I assume that if someone is speaking loud enough for everyone in the store to hear, they want everyone in the store to hear.  Cell phone or not.
 
2014-04-09 12:00:34 PM

Buttknuckle: You are not that important.  Put the f*cking phone down.


Important?  Cell phones have not been a status symbol in years. I could understand your rage a few years ago, but now they're more common than watches.
 
2014-04-09 12:00:57 PM

trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.


I figure it's because they only hear one side of the conversation, and it just pizzes them off to no end that they can't be completely involved in listening in on your private conversation.  So they get all angered.

Me, I don't answer my phone in public or while driving for the most part.  I'll look at it, and I'll only answer if it's my sister, because she will text me regularly, but if she's calling there's some kind of emergency in the family.  I never answer while driving even though I have a new car with the built in phone thingy.  I'll freely admit I can barely keep and eye on all the others around me and drive, I have no business trying to talk on the phone and watch things and drive.
 
2014-04-09 12:01:20 PM
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2014-04-09 12:02:43 PM

Ker_Thwap: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

Eh, two old people blocking the aisle while they chat is just as annoying, it's just selfish behavior that pisses people off, not necessary the phone.



Well certainly.  That makes sense.  And then there's....


doubled99: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.


NO. Pretty much all usage makes you an asshole. Just accept it.

 
2014-04-09 12:05:20 PM

jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.

I had one a few years ago (ordered it from England) and it worked great! Had an effective radius of about 50-feet or so. It was fairly expensive so after a few weeks I wound up returning it.  It was a fairly simple looking device about the size and looks of a flip-phone (this was pre-smartphone days back when Blackberry was still popular). These days, though, what with 3G, 4G, etc., I'm not sure if there are any small jammers that are able to block everything.

If anyone knows of a full-spectrum-blocker (for lack of a better term), please do post an info-link!

Ordered mine from China at a cost of $57 including shipping.
It takes out EVERYTHING, including WiFi.
Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.


Linky to site where I can order, please?  :)
 
2014-04-09 12:08:20 PM

trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.


That's because listening to one side of a conversation is more distracting than listening to both sides.

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"
 
2014-04-09 12:08:31 PM

Mikey1969: Slaves2Darkness: Mikey1969: Talking on cellphones and BT devices isn't the problem. It's the people who don't realize that they are distance communication devices and feel the need to scream. You don't need to yell into your cellphone or headset, that's really all that matters.

As for the "Everyone who uses a cellphone in public is an asshole" people, I don't believe that those people have never used their cellphone in public, so they can eat a dick.

Screw you asshole I don't even own a cell phone, never have, never will.


/I'm not kidding. Go take your electronic collar and put it around some one elses neck.

Thank God you stay away from electronics, too. Those computers are bigger anchors then cell phones. If anyone ever tries to sell you a computer, run like crazy in the other direction. Don't even take time to shoot them first.


Son, did you wake up stupid this morning or is this normal for you?
 
2014-04-09 12:11:12 PM
News Flash nobody is impressed that you have a cell phone.
 
2014-04-09 12:11:28 PM

Dragonflew: Buttknuckle: You are not that important.  Put the f*cking phone down.

Important?  Cell phones have not been a status symbol in years. I could understand your rage a few years ago, but now they're more common than watches.


How's that phrase go..? "Just because your friend jumped off the cliff doesn't mean you have to follow".
 
2014-04-09 12:12:05 PM

sandi_fish: Was in the rest room of the office building where I work, and this dipshiat answers the phone in the stall. I was in the stall next to her and could not for the life of me why she wouldn't call the person back.  What if someone was in there leaving a deposit?


A guy in my previous office like to do the same thing. He actually did minor business negotiations on the can. I use to wait until he was talking so I knew he wasn't on mute and then flushed. It didn't change his behavior, but at least the people on the other side knew he was talking to them while dropping a deuce.
 
2014-04-09 12:13:01 PM

MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.

I had one a few years ago (ordered it from England) and it worked great! Had an effective radius of about 50-feet or so. It was fairly expensive so after a few weeks I wound up returning it.  It was a fairly simple looking device about the size and looks of a flip-phone (this was pre-smartphone days back when Blackberry was still popular). These days, though, what with 3G, 4G, etc., I'm not sure if there are any small jammers that are able to block everything.

If anyone knows of a full-spectrum-blocker (for lack of a better term), please do post an info-link!

Ordered mine from China at a cost of $57 including shipping.
It takes out EVERYTHING, including WiFi.
Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.

Linky to site where I can order, please?  :)


http://www.cellphoneblockerjammer.com/
 
2014-04-09 12:13:45 PM

Rik01: While in Wal-mart I've been 'treated' to a rather large and loud lady yammering away on the phone as she slowly wandered along the displays. Then I came across another one having an energetic and equally loud gossip session as she pushed her cart right down the middle of the rows.

I really hate standing in line somewhere to check out -- which I consider the worst part of shopping anyhow -- and someone behind me is jabbering away on a cell. It makes it extra annoying when they're loudly going on in some language like Spanish or, increasingly, some African dialect.

I watched an elderly black lady come into a store, grab one of the power scooters and drive off, cell phone glued to her ear, loudly discussing something in Swahili or whatever, not really paying attention to where she was going. A short time later I came across her again, still on the phone, looking pi$$ed and about 30 minutes later, bumped into her again and she was still at it!

Now, the local Wal-mart has found a way to cut down on the jabber by installing these self checkout booths. You can't jabber much on a cell when using both hands to empty your cart, scan each item and respond to the frequent automatic requests of 'Please Scan The Item' or 'Please Place The Item In the Bagging Area'.

Wal-mart, I read once, has cell jammers installed across the stores to cut down on this, but it doesn't seem to make a difference or else not every store has them.

Maybe Publix does, because I rarely see anyone there blabbing away on a cell and if they do, it's usually at a decibel level that can't be heard three aisles away.


so do you want less cell phones or more white people at Walmart?
 
2014-04-09 12:14:07 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Mikey1969: Slaves2Darkness: Mikey1969: Talking on cellphones and BT devices isn't the problem. It's the people who don't realize that they are distance communication devices and feel the need to scream. You don't need to yell into your cellphone or headset, that's really all that matters.

As for the "Everyone who uses a cellphone in public is an asshole" people, I don't believe that those people have never used their cellphone in public, so they can eat a dick.

Screw you asshole I don't even own a cell phone, never have, never will.


/I'm not kidding. Go take your electronic collar and put it around some one elses neck.

Thank God you stay away from electronics, too. Those computers are bigger anchors then cell phones. If anyone ever tries to sell you a computer, run like crazy in the other direction. Don't even take time to shoot them first.

Son, did you wake up stupid this morning or is this normal for you?


I'm really just wondering how you get your musings onto the internet if you're this scared of technology. Do you have a smoke signal-to-digital converter of some kind? Is someone transcribing the scratches you're making on that rock?
 
2014-04-09 12:17:58 PM

sandi_fish: Was in the rest room of the office building where I work, and this dipshiat answers the phone in the stall. I was in the stall next to her and could not for the life of me why she wouldn't call the person back.  What if someone was in there leaving a deposit?


ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2014-04-09 12:21:56 PM

Ker_Thwap: So, when cell phones first became popular, I had teenage daughters and would mutter "stupid teenagers blocking the door" every time one lingered in a public doorway blocking foot traffic.  As time went by, I noticed the behavior was just as prevalent among the middle aged and elderly as well.  So now I mutter "stupid teenagers blocking the door" to the old people as well.


Minor compared to the blockage a walmartian can achieve.
 
2014-04-09 12:25:52 PM

jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.

I had one a few years ago (ordered it from England) and it worked great! Had an effective radius of about 50-feet or so. It was fairly expensive so after a few weeks I wound up returning it.  It was a fairly simple looking device about the size and looks of a flip-phone (this was pre-smartphone days back when Blackberry was still popular). These days, though, what with 3G, 4G, etc., I'm not sure if there are any small jammers that are able to block everything.

If anyone knows of a full-spectrum-blocker (for lack of a better term), please do post an info-link!

Ordered mine from China at a cost of $57 including shipping.
It takes out EVERYTHING, including WiFi.
Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.

Linky to site where I can order, please?  :)

http://www.cellphoneblockerjammer.com/


Woo-hoo!  Now all I've got to do is figure out which handheld one will block the most signals.
 
2014-04-09 12:31:49 PM
Yeah! Fark you! Nobody wants to be forced to overhear your conversation with Biff about how you think he's a nice guy but you're just dating him for his dick. I'm trying to pick out yogurt here people....I really don't want to hear all about your dysfunctional sex life.
 
2014-04-09 12:34:32 PM

TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

That's because listening to one side of a conversation is more distracting than listening to both sides.

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"


Then butt out.  Simple as that.  Why do I have no problem doing that.   I think it's a matter of self control.  Which I realize some apes don't have, but I can't help them.
 
2014-04-09 12:36:07 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

I figure it's because they only hear one side of the conversation, and it just pizzes them off to no end that they can't be completely involved in listening in on your private conversation.  So they get all angered.

Me, I don't answer my phone in public or while driving for the most part.  I'll look at it, and I'll only answer if it's my sister, because she will text me regularly, but if she's calling there's some kind of emergency in the family.  I never answer while driving even though I have a new car with the built in phone thingy.  I'll freely admit I can barely keep and eye on all the others around me and drive, I have no business trying to talk on the phone and watch things and drive.


It's not a private conversation when it's held in public, loud enough for everyone to hear.
 
2014-04-09 12:40:46 PM

Beeblebrox: Satan's Bunny Slippers: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

I figure it's because they only hear one side of the conversation, and it just pizzes them off to no end that they can't be completely involved in listening in on your private conversation.  So they get all angered.

Me, I don't answer my phone in public or while driving for the most part.  I'll look at it, and I'll only answer if it's my sister, because she will text me regularly, but if she's calling there's some kind of emergency in the family.  I never answer while driving even though I have a new car with the built in phone thingy.  I'll freely admit I can barely keep and eye on all the others around me and drive, I have no business trying to talk on the phone and watch things and drive.

It's not a private conversation when it's held in public, loud enough for everyone to hear.


I'm referring to people having conversations with people that are present in person vs on a phone. At normal levels, eavesdropping shouldn't really be an issue, and if it is, why?  What is the difference between talking to someone standing right there and talking to someone elsewhere if the tone/volume is the same?

Nothing.
 
2014-04-09 12:41:34 PM

cwheelie: Galloping Galoshes: CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.

Not real fond of being in an elevator with someone using their phone.  Thanks for letting me share your phone booth, twit.

I got on the elevator in my building recently, 1 woman already in there, talking on her cell. I glanced at her and she said "do you mind? this is a private conversation". I said "and this is a public space..." and then stared at her for 15 floors.......


What did she expect you do to? Get off or plug your ears or just look away? Makes no sense...
 
2014-04-09 12:42:23 PM

Sybarite: They were probably Yankees.


To be fair, their lineup is so old that half of them would have problems getting back up again.
 
2014-04-09 12:46:30 PM
I have no problem with people on their phones if they're speaking at a conversational level.  It's the people who make their private conversation a public matter who piss me off.  I'd say the same thing about two people talking loudly when they're sitting right next to each other.

And for the love of fark, end your conversation when it's your turn to order at Chipotle.  Your conversation isn't so important that you can't hang up the damn phone for 5 minutes, and I know that because I've been listening to half of it for the last 15.
 
2014-04-09 12:46:53 PM

Jument: cwheelie: Galloping Galoshes: CruJones: No, talking loudly on your phone makes you an asshole, simply using it is fine.  If you talk at a normal volume it's no worse than someone talking to a friend.

Not real fond of being in an elevator with someone using their phone.  Thanks for letting me share your phone booth, twit.

I got on the elevator in my building recently, 1 woman already in there, talking on her cell. I glanced at her and she said "do you mind? this is a private conversation". I said "and this is a public space..." and then stared at her for 15 floors.......

What did she expect you do to? Get off or plug your ears or just look away? Makes no sense...


Haha, good! Stupid twit. Yes, I DO mind. I would've stared at her too. And I would listen closely and make corresponding facial expressions and other body language mannerisms, based on what was being discussed. YOU WANT ME IN YOUR LIFE biatch? BRING IT ON, IM ALL IN
 
2014-04-09 12:48:08 PM

lewismarktwo: I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb


That is farking hilarious!  Sometimes I wish I was 6'5" and about 250.  I would do similar things on a regular basis.
 
2014-04-09 12:48:48 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Beeblebrox: Satan's Bunny Slippers: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

I figure it's because they only hear one side of the conversation, and it just pizzes them off to no end that they can't be completely involved in listening in on your private conversation.  So they get all angered.

Me, I don't answer my phone in public or while driving for the most part.  I'll look at it, and I'll only answer if it's my sister, because she will text me regularly, but if she's calling there's some kind of emergency in the family.  I never answer while driving even though I have a new car with the built in phone thingy.  I'll freely admit I can barely keep and eye on all the others around me and drive, I have no business trying to talk on the phone and watch things and drive.

It's not a private conversation when it's held in public, loud enough for everyone to hear.

I'm referring to people having conversations with people that are present in person vs on a phone. At normal levels, eavesdropping shouldn't really be an issue, and if it is, why?  What is the difference between talking to someone standing right there and talking to someone elsewhere if the tone/volume is the same?

Nothing.


I completely agree.  I stated up-thread that people talking on cell phones at the same volume as you would speak to a person standing next to you are not the problem.
 
2014-04-09 12:50:32 PM

trappedspirit: TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

That's because listening to one side of a conversation is more distracting than listening to both sides.

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"

Then butt out.  Simple as that.  Why do I have no problem doing that.   I think it's a matter of self control.  Which I realize some apes don't have, but I can't help them.


Did you completely miss the quote I put right there?

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"
 
2014-04-09 12:51:04 PM
We DO need to realize that our phones ARE more important than anything else in our lives
Jammers?
Hellz YAYUS!
 
2014-04-09 12:51:47 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.


It's amusing to me how you think that your flavor of disruptive annoyance is somehow better than what the people around you are doing.
 
2014-04-09 12:53:00 PM
Beeblebrox:

Sorry I misunderstood your intent.  Mea culpa.
 
2014-04-09 12:56:06 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Beeblebrox:

Sorry I misunderstood your intent.  Mea culpa.


No worries.  I still giggle at the video of the woman on the cell phone walking into the fountain.
 
2014-04-09 01:01:43 PM

TheBigJerk: For the most part I think it can be summed up with one question: If the person you are talking to was next to you, would you still be an asshole?

If yes; you're an asshole.

If no; the whiners are the assholes.


Denis Leary notwithstanding, no one ever considers him/herself an asshole.
 
2014-04-09 01:01:44 PM
I have a passionate dislike of telephones but I have an iPod Touch.It looks enough like a cellphone I could walk around being an asshole and nobody would know the difference.

This is tempting. I am not the practical joke type because for some reason whenever you play a practical joke on a practical joker they get very upset. Maybe I am doing it wrong,. Oh well, Court Orders are Court Orders.  I don't play practical jokes or Monopoly. In fact, all competitive games or sports are pretty much out.

But at least I can think up practical jokes. Imagine the crazy crap you could say if your cellphone was turned off. Much more interesting than the idiotic boring crap you say when it is on, which it always is, admit it.

Imagine a world without religion. You can do it if you try. What you can't do is tell such a world from a world that is made to look like such a world. Or vice versa. For all we know, we live in a Darwinian universe where there is no God except the God we have not yet made. Or else the God of this world is a liar. And that is all we can know.

I find people assume that if you are wearing headphones you are listening to Death Metal so loud that you are functionally deaf.  They could not be more wrong.

Batteries die, devices have off buttons, people listen to soft music such as Schubert's lovely soporific "Trout" Quintet. The Walkman was the greatest tool ever invented for sociologists and psychologists because it removes you from the lab as far as the test subjects are concerned. It takes you out of the equation and the place where you are. Your mind is literally elsewhere or nowhere while you have a cellphone or other device at your fingertips.

Science can not only make you an asshole. It can make you an INVISIBLE ASSHOLE. It can make you a non-person also.

There is a God and I am He. In theory, if not in practice. I have only to pick up my "phone".
 
2014-04-09 01:02:14 PM
trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

That's because listening to one side of a conversation is more distracting than listening to both sides.

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"

Then butt out.  Simple as that.  Why do I have no problem doing that.   I think it's a matter of self control.  Which I realize some apes don't have, but I can't help them.


...AAAND here's one of the dildos guilty of this behavior .
 
2014-04-09 01:04:17 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: jehovahs witness protection: Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.

It's amusing to me how you think that your flavor of disruptive annoyance is somehow better than what the people around you are doing.


Hey, he's showing those smug hipsters that he doesn't approve of their lowbrow mass-market activities. Whats more entertaining than that?

/haha, that guy was sending an email. What a jerk. Take THAT, email-guy
 
2014-04-09 01:08:43 PM

wyltoknow: Noticeably F.A.T.: jehovahs witness protection: Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.

It's amusing to me how you think that your flavor of disruptive annoyance is somehow better than what the people around you are doing.

Hey, he's showing those smug hipsters that he doesn't approve of their lowbrow mass-market activities. Whats more entertaining than that?

/

haha, that guy was sending an email. What a jerk. Take THAT, email-guy


Can somebody moosh this into one of the real men of genius Bud Light things?

That's what it made me think of.
 
2014-04-09 01:15:09 PM

wyltoknow: Noticeably F.A.T.: jehovahs witness protection: Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.

It's amusing to me how you think that your flavor of disruptive annoyance is somehow better than what the people around you are doing.

Hey, he's showing those smug hipsters that he doesn't approve of their lowbrow mass-market activities. Whats more entertaining than that?

/haha, that guy was sending an email. What a jerk. Take THAT, email-guy


He was probably eating crackers like he owned the place as well.
 
2014-04-09 01:33:53 PM

lewismarktwo: I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb



My buddy did this to a guy at a football game.  The guy on the phone says "I'll have to call you back" and hung up his phone.

Then he kicked my buddy's ass.

/I wasn't there
 
2014-04-09 01:34:11 PM
What's a magazine?
 
2014-04-09 01:34:43 PM

jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.

I had one a few years ago (ordered it from England) and it worked great! Had an effective radius of about 50-feet or so. It was fairly expensive so after a few weeks I wound up returning it.  It was a fairly simple looking device about the size and looks of a flip-phone (this was pre-smartphone days back when Blackberry was still popular). These days, though, what with 3G, 4G, etc., I'm not sure if there are any small jammers that are able to block everything.

If anyone knows of a full-spectrum-blocker (for lack of a better term), please do post an info-link!

Ordered mine from China at a cost of $57 including shipping.
It takes out EVERYTHING, including WiFi.
Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.

Linky to site where I can order, please?  :)

http://www.cellphoneblockerjammer.com/


I may install one of those in my car just to shut folks down with cells driving next to me.
 
2014-04-09 01:37:34 PM

Oak: ph0rk: I just don't understand why it is illegal for me to have (and use) a cell phone jammer.

Annoying phone user nearby? Boop!

I just don't understand why it is illegal for me to have (and use) a cell phone 'sploder.

Annoying phone user nearby? BOOM!


They banned it at the same time they banned that bass-seeking missile I was developing for use on those cars that have the giant subwoofers.
 
2014-04-09 01:37:46 PM
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2014-04-09 01:41:11 PM

Rik01: While in Wal-mart I've been 'treated' to a rather large and loud lady yammering away on the phone as she slowly wandered along the displays. Then I came across another one having an energetic and equally loud gossip session as she pushed her cart right down the middle of the rows.

I really hate standing in line somewhere to check out -- which I consider the worst part of shopping anyhow -- and someone behind me is jabbering away on a cell. It makes it extra annoying when they're loudly going on in some language like Spanish or, increasingly, some African dialect.

I watched an elderly black lady come into a store, grab one of the power scooters and drive off, cell phone glued to her ear, loudly discussing something in Swahili or whatever, not really paying attention to where she was going. A short time later I came across her again, still on the phone, looking pi$$ed and about 30 minutes later, bumped into her again and she was still at it!

Now, the local Wal-mart has found a way to cut down on the jabber by installing these self checkout booths. You can't jabber much on a cell when using both hands to empty your cart, scan each item and respond to the frequent automatic requests of 'Please Scan The Item' or 'Please Place The Item In the Bagging Area'.

Wal-mart, I read once, has cell jammers installed across the stores to cut down on this, but it doesn't seem to make a difference or else not every store has them.

Maybe Publix does, because I rarely see anyone there blabbing away on a cell and if they do, it's usually at a decibel level that can't be heard three aisles away.


The Publix stores I've been in have a noticeably attenuated cell signal, but the signal isn't blocked entirely. So I figured it has more to do with the design and construction materials than with any kind of active jamming.
 
2014-04-09 01:41:35 PM

wyltoknow: /haha, that guy was sending an email. What a jerk. Take THAT, email-guy


That's what I don't get about the folks with jammers, they're perfectly willing to disrupt everyone's activities regardless of the level of annoyance. "Your conversation annoys me, so I won't let you talk on your phone. Or text, or email, or surf the web, or VNC into your work computer from your laptop. And by 'you', I mean you and everyone else around you who wasn't bothering anyone. Sorry, everyone else! You've become collateral damage due to my low threshold for annoyances and my lack of a sense of proportion." Yup, that sure is morally superior to loud-talking-guy.
 
2014-04-09 01:42:10 PM
Occasionally, Darwin claims his prize.

http://globalnews.ca/news/514584/montreal-woman-killed-in-metro/

She made it two stations before anyone noticed the blood and gutz on the tracks.
 
2014-04-09 01:50:18 PM

meanmutton: Buttknuckle: You are not that important.  Put the f*cking phone down.

What does being important have to do with talking to people? Personally, I like people and frequently talk with them. Why that should be restricted to important people is beyond me.


Welcome to Fark. Here, the worst things in the world are people who use their cell phones in public, extroverts, open office floor plans, analog music and people who don't acknowledge your restrained rage.
 
2014-04-09 01:52:47 PM

durbnpoisn: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.


omg, that drives me nuts.
Plus...  It's one thing to have the thing on while your driving, or your hands are otherwise occupied.  But many times, people will just sit there wearing it, as if the most important call in the universe might happen at any moment.
They look like idiots.


I wear one in the car pretty much anytime I'm working because it's easier to hear the google maps lady in the earpiece and I go to multiple addresses for each job. Sometimes I forget it's on when I walk into a store. The hatred many people have for the things is palpable.

///On the rare occasion I'm in line and get an incoming call I must take I step out of the line. As should everyone else.
 
2014-04-09 02:01:10 PM

notatrollorami: durbnpoisn: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.


omg, that drives me nuts.
Plus...  It's one thing to have the thing on while your driving, or your hands are otherwise occupied.  But many times, people will just sit there wearing it, as if the most important call in the universe might happen at any moment.
They look like idiots.

I wear one in the car pretty much anytime I'm working because it's easier to hear the google maps lady in the earpiece and I go to multiple addresses for each job. Sometimes I forget it's on when I walk into a store. The hatred many people have for the things is palpable.

///On the rare occasion I'm in line and get an incoming call I must take I step out of the line. As should everyone else.


Yeah! Fark you google maps lady!
 
2014-04-09 02:02:01 PM

ReverendJynxed: jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: MelGoesOnTour: jehovahs witness protection: Cell phone jammers.
That is all.

I had one a few years ago (ordered it from England) and it worked great! Had an effective radius of about 50-feet or so. It was fairly expensive so after a few weeks I wound up returning it.  It was a fairly simple looking device about the size and looks of a flip-phone (this was pre-smartphone days back when Blackberry was still popular). These days, though, what with 3G, 4G, etc., I'm not sure if there are any small jammers that are able to block everything.

If anyone knows of a full-spectrum-blocker (for lack of a better term), please do post an info-link!

Ordered mine from China at a cost of $57 including shipping.
It takes out EVERYTHING, including WiFi.
Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.

Linky to site where I can order, please?  :)

http://www.cellphoneblockerjammer.com/

I may install one of those in my car just to shut folks down with cells driving next to me.


That may make it worse, they will look at their phone to redial.
 
2014-04-09 02:06:08 PM

Cold_Sassy: lewismarktwo: I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb

That is farking hilarious!  Sometimes I wish I was 6'5" and about 250.  I would do similar things on a regular basis.


I am. It's still extremely difficult to overcome the ingrained inclination not to be confrontational. Someone has to be a pretty spectacular asshole for me to feel comfortable calling them out. My ability to whip their ass has no bearing on my need to conform to social norms.
 
2014-04-09 02:10:22 PM

stuffy: News Flash nobody is impressed that you have a cell phone.


It's funny that you're so self centered that you think people use innocuous, pervasive devices to try to impress you. News flash: people are talking on cell phones because they have something to say to someone who isn't right next to them.
 
2014-04-09 02:12:06 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: jehovahs witness protection: Sitting outside of Starbucks has never been more entertaining.

It's amusing to me how you think that your flavor of disruptive annoyance is somehow better than what the people around you are doing.


You mean like when you were being disruptive and annoying in the gun thread yesterday?
 
2014-04-09 02:12:22 PM

Matthew Keene: Occasionally, Darwin claims his prize.

http://globalnews.ca/news/514584/montreal-woman-killed-in-metro/

She made it two stations before anyone noticed the blood and gutz on the tracks.


That's a real shame. Of course, the fact that she was a hot almost certainly gave the story more impact and maybe helped a few people to alter their behavior.
 
2014-04-09 02:15:22 PM

meanmutton: News flash: people are talking on cell phones because they have something to say to someone who isn't right next to them.


Newsflash: not everyone wants to hear your inane blather.
 
2014-04-09 02:16:28 PM

Matthew Keene: Harry Freakstorm: People who have the Bluetooth headset who look at you while talking are the real douchies.

Why do I want to know what the vet said about your cat's rash?  Oh.... I see.

It also makes it harder to spot the skitzo nuts having conversations with themselves.


That's the thing that always got me. When I lived in NYC, if you saw someone carrying on a conversation with someone who nobody could see, you assumed he was a nutjob. Now you assume he's a stockbroker or executive, or more likely, a middle-management douche.
 
2014-04-09 02:19:37 PM
About 6 years ago, was having breakfast with my wife, and couldn't help but notice a man speaking loudly as if he were speaking to someone else. Thought maybe had a bluetooth. Turns out, as we left, I glanced at him again, and he did not have one, was still alone, and talking as if he were on the phone. Then I realized he was nuts.
 
2014-04-09 02:21:16 PM

notatrollorami: Cold_Sassy: lewismarktwo: I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb

That is farking hilarious!  Sometimes I wish I was 6'5" and about 250.  I would do similar things on a regular basis.

I am. It's still extremely difficult to overcome the ingrained inclination not to be confrontational. Someone has to be a pretty spectacular asshole for me to feel comfortable calling them out. My ability to whip their ass has no bearing on my need to conform to social norms.


Well, you're a lucky man.  I am a 5"4" 120# female, so if the jerk is a guy I'm SOL.  I wasn't taking about an a*s whipping really, it was more about being able to defend myself should they decide to become physical ;)  I am pretty non-confrontational myself but I'm not afraid to speak up to someone of a similar size and weight.
 
2014-04-09 02:26:08 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: meanmutton: News flash: people are talking on cell phones because they have something to say to someone who isn't right next to them.

Newsflash: not everyone wants to hear your inane blather.


My blather doesn't become more erudite if spewed at someone right next to me.
 
2014-04-09 02:29:33 PM

meanmutton: My blather doesn't become more erudite if spewed at someone right next to me.


No, but cognitive science shows that's it's easier for the rest of us to tune out.
 
2014-04-09 02:29:49 PM
Just because you have a cellphone, doesn't mean you have to answer it when it rings.
 
2014-04-09 02:37:45 PM

stuffy: News Flash nobody is impressed that you have a cell phone.


In the same vein, no one is impressed that you DON'T have a cell phone, though some people oddly find it gloat-worthy.
 
2014-04-09 02:38:22 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: meanmutton: News flash: people are talking on cell phones because they have something to say to someone who isn't right next to them.

Newsflash: not everyone wants to hear your inane blather.


And news flash, it's not even a choice. I can say I do not want to hear what this person thinks is SO freakin important in his life that he blabs it at loud volume all over me. These people don't see you as even having a choice in the matter. They've got something REALLY REALLY important to say so Fark you.
 
2014-04-09 02:40:21 PM

TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

That's because listening to one side of a conversation is more distracting than listening to both sides.

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"

Then butt out.  Simple as that.  Why do I have no problem doing that.   I think it's a matter of self control.  Which I realize some apes don't have, but I can't help them.

Did you completely miss the quote I put right there?

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"


There's plenty of things are brains are naturally draw to.  You can also control that.  You don't have to check out all the shiny things.  Just butt out, or listen in.  Most people don't have OCD.
 
2014-04-09 02:41:50 PM

rev. dave: I talk on the phone while in the grocery store.


Why?  I see this from time to time, and I always wonder what is so farking important.
 
2014-04-09 02:45:29 PM

trappedspirit: There's plenty of things are brains are naturally draw to.  You can also control that.  You don't have to check out all the shiny things.  Just butt out, or listen in.


Or, you know, the jackass describing his lunch over the phone on a packed train could just shut the f*ck up for one blessed second.

But of course you making a tee time in line behind me at the grocery store is the most important thing in the world for all of us.
 
2014-04-09 02:50:00 PM
I'd like to quickly bring up another angle to this. I have friends that go out of their way to be seen and heard on their phone in public. They speak very loudly and almost make a scene. I think this is the behavior that annoys some of us (myself included). They WANT you to hear their personal conversation, whether it's uncomfortable for you or not. It's their version of loudly attention whoring whether you like it or not.

Now, some have said well just tune it out, why are you paying any attention. Well, I could wear earbuds all day and block it all out. But why should I have to? Why can't you keep your private, personal, awkward conversations to yourselves? Why must I be forced to listen (because I can't escape without blocking out the entire world with, say, earbuds).
 
2014-04-09 02:59:06 PM

sandi_fish: Was in the rest room of the office building where I work, and this dipshiat answers the phone in the stall. I was in the stall next to her and could not for the life of me why she wouldn't call the person back.  What if someone was in there leaving a deposit?


mentalfloss.com

Would've approved of your stall-mate's behavior.
 
2014-04-09 03:03:09 PM

Cold_Sassy: notatrollorami: Cold_Sassy: lewismarktwo: I was in a fairly posh hotel retrieving a package from services when some asshole starts yelling and cursing incessantly into his phone to some bank or credit card rep about needing access to his money.  He decided to pony up to the front desk for this as to disturb everyone in the lobby.  The employees were all red faced and glancing down at their shoes, clearly unable to tell the customer he was not right.

After I signed for my package I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to take his conversation to the bathroom not 20 feet away for the benefit of the other guests and employees.  He was outraged of course and told me to mind my own farking business.  I then proceeded to whip my cell phone out and began to mock him in a similarly loud fashion, right into his ear.  "Hey look at me! I'm so farking important I think everyone needs to hear one half of this customer service call in the lobby of this 5 star hotel!  I may be yelling at you but I'm really just angry about my small penis! My mother never loved me! " etc.

He told the bank rep some asshole was making too much noise to talk and that he would call him right back and flees.  Smiles on all the hotel employees faces, and I got a free gift basket complete with intoxicants later that day.

/csb

That is farking hilarious!  Sometimes I wish I was 6'5" and about 250.  I would do similar things on a regular basis.

I am. It's still extremely difficult to overcome the ingrained inclination not to be confrontational. Someone has to be a pretty spectacular asshole for me to feel comfortable calling them out. My ability to whip their ass has no bearing on my need to conform to social norms.

Well, you're a lucky man.  I am a 5"4" 120# female, so if the jerk is a guy I'm SOL.  I wasn't taking about an a*s whipping really, it was more about being able to defend myself should they decide to become physical ;)  I am pretty non-confrontational myself but I'm not afraid to speak up to someone of a similar size and weight.


Ha! My wife is 5'3" and 120 and is generally much more aggressive than I. It's considered spirited and feisty for you guys.

If somebody like me acts aggressively it comes off as bullying. It doesn't help that my voice is loud and my face more expressive than I intend it to be.

OTOH as my friends and family say it's comforting that I and those with me will never be the target of choice for muggers and such.
 
2014-04-09 03:05:39 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

I figure it's because they only hear one side of the conversation, and it just pizzes them off to no end that they can't be completely involved in listening in on your private conversation.  So they get all angered.


Waaay more thought than they put into it, it's like this:

1: I hear someone gabbling away on the phone and think they're talking to me.  I am confused and a little annoyed.  In the split-second of confusion my mind attempt to figure out why this person is talking to me, what are they talking about, do I want to answer, etc.

2: I realize they are talking on bluetooth or see the cell in their hand or whatever, get that feeling of not-quite-embarassment a person gets when they realize they were mistaken about something.

3a: My rational mind catches up with the emotions and I realize I was just mistaken for a moment.  Any lingering emotional component is dealt with by logic.  Logically I had no reason to know what was going on, now I do, and I have other things to think about.  This mostly happens unconsciously because it happens at the speed of thought.

3b: The Howling Ape that hates cell phone users feels embarrassed, and in an order to avoid feeling embarrassed turns to anger.  His/her emotional mind says that he was tricked, MADE to look or feel stupid by the thrice-cursed cell-phone user.  This anger demands justice for the insult.  Rather than accept that s/he was mistaken, the Howling Ape starts rationalizing all sorts of reasons why cell phone users are terrible assholes.

Really, until the later part of step 3 there is basically no thought involved, it's all instinct and emotion and feeling at an animal level.  The only question is when logic steps in and tells the emotional animal, "that's a good job pathos, I'll take it from here."
 
2014-04-09 03:10:06 PM

Cybernetic: Rik01: While in Wal-mart I've been 'treated' to a rather large and loud lady yammering away on the phone as she slowly wandered along the displays. Then I came across another one having an energetic and equally loud gossip session as she pushed her cart right down the middle of the rows.

I really hate standing in line somewhere to check out -- which I consider the worst part of shopping anyhow -- and someone behind me is jabbering away on a cell. It makes it extra annoying when they're loudly going on in some language like Spanish or, increasingly, some African dialect.

I watched an elderly black lady come into a store, grab one of the power scooters and drive off, cell phone glued to her ear, loudly discussing something in Swahili or whatever, not really paying attention to where she was going. A short time later I came across her again, still on the phone, looking pi$$ed and about 30 minutes later, bumped into her again and she was still at it!

Now, the local Wal-mart has found a way to cut down on the jabber by installing these self checkout booths. You can't jabber much on a cell when using both hands to empty your cart, scan each item and respond to the frequent automatic requests of 'Please Scan The Item' or 'Please Place The Item In the Bagging Area'.

Wal-mart, I read once, has cell jammers installed across the stores to cut down on this, but it doesn't seem to make a difference or else not every store has them.

Maybe Publix does, because I rarely see anyone there blabbing away on a cell and if they do, it's usually at a decibel level that can't be heard three aisles away.

The Publix stores I've been in have a noticeably attenuated cell signal, but the signal isn't blocked entirely. So I figured it has more to do with the design and construction materials than with any kind of active jamming.


Any store that jammed reception would be begging for lawsuits because mommy couldn't get the emergency call that timmy swallowed a hammer and is in the ER, etc.
 
2014-04-09 03:10:35 PM

Witness99: I'd like to quickly bring up another angle to this. I have friends that go out of their way to be seen and heard on their phone in public. They speak very loudly and almost make a scene. I think this is the behavior that annoys some of us (myself included). They WANT you to hear their personal conversation, whether it's uncomfortable for you or not. It's their version of loudly attention whoring whether you like it or not.

Now, some have said well just tune it out, why are you paying any attention. Well, I could wear earbuds all day and block it all out. But why should I have to? Why can't you keep your private, personal, awkward conversations to yourselves? Why must I be forced to listen (because I can't escape without blocking out the entire world with, say, earbuds).


That's not another angle, that's the same angle.  You politely ask if they can, "keep it down to a dull roar," or some other colloquialism for, "I don't need silence but I need it quieter."   Then they have the choice of escalation.

Or not, dealing with assholes is part of the great Prisoner's Dilemma we call "life."
 
2014-04-09 03:14:47 PM

trappedspirit: TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

That's because listening to one side of a conversation is more distracting than listening to both sides.

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"

Then butt out.  Simple as that.  Why do I have no problem doing that.   I think it's a matter of self control.  Which I realize some apes don't have, but I can't help them.

Did you completely miss the quote I put right there?

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"

There's plenty of things are brains are naturally draw to.  You can also control that.  You don't have to check out all the shiny things.  Just butt out, or listen in.  Most people don't have OCD.


Flatulence is relatively harmless, but it smells bad and is obnoxious. You can't tell a subconscious not to get revolted by the smell, because biology dictates that we do. Should public flatulence be banned? No, and it won't be. But you can't stop people from staring disapprovingly at the farter, or laughing at the person with poor public hygiene, or going around telling the story of how they were once trapped in an elevator with a bean-distiller. If you don't want that to happen to you, don't fart in public.

Talking on a cellphone is like farting, only slightly less annoying, and somewhat more voluntary. If you want to do it, do it. Just stop acting all martyred and superior when people find it annoying, because they can't help but find it annoying. It's biology.
 
2014-04-09 03:21:28 PM

TheBigJerk: The Howling Ape that hates cell phone users


Wait a minute - wouldn't those who are unable to refrain from talking on the phone in public more accurately be called Howling Apes?  I'm just trying to mind my own business while they yammer incessantly.
 
2014-04-09 03:29:01 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: trappedspirit: There's plenty of things are brains are naturally draw to.  You can also control that.  You don't have to check out all the shiny things.  Just butt out, or listen in.

Or, you know, the jackass describing his lunch over the phone on a packed train could just shut the f*ck up for one blessed second.

But of course you making a tee time in line behind me at the grocery store is the most important thing in the world for all of us.


Do you walk down the street shaking your fist at signs that have made you read them?
 
2014-04-09 03:31:48 PM

trappedspirit: Zulu_as_Kono: trappedspirit: There's plenty of things are brains are naturally draw to.  You can also control that.  You don't have to check out all the shiny things.  Just butt out, or listen in.

Or, you know, the jackass describing his lunch over the phone on a packed train could just shut the f*ck up for one blessed second.

But of course you making a tee time in line behind me at the grocery store is the most important thing in the world for all of us.

Do you walk down the street shaking your fist at signs that have made you read them?


Normal signs are not an assault on the eyes the way most people's inane ramblings on their cell phone are on the ears.  Not the same thing.  not yours.
 
2014-04-09 03:42:14 PM

trappedspirit: Do you walk down the street shaking your fist at signs that have made you read them?



That's a really stupid question.
 
2014-04-09 03:52:56 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: trappedspirit: Do you walk down the street shaking your fist at signs that have made you read them?


That's a really stupid question.


But you are going to get angry at some conversation you were forced to hear?  You sound angry.
 
2014-04-09 03:55:23 PM

Buttknuckle: trappedspirit: Zulu_as_Kono: trappedspirit: There's plenty of things are brains are naturally draw to.  You can also control that.  You don't have to check out all the shiny things.  Just butt out, or listen in.

Or, you know, the jackass describing his lunch over the phone on a packed train could just shut the f*ck up for one blessed second.

But of course you making a tee time in line behind me at the grocery store is the most important thing in the world for all of us.

Do you walk down the street shaking your fist at signs that have made you read them?

Normal signs are not an assault on the eyes the way most people's inane ramblings on their cell phone are on the ears.  Not the same thing.  not yours.


If you feel assaulted by people talking in public you should probably avoid the public.  I'd say you have an unreasonable expectation of silence.  People are going to talk in public.
 
2014-04-09 03:58:11 PM

trappedspirit: But you are going to get angry at some conversation you were forced to hear?  You sound angry.


Not angry, but if you subject me to half of your conversation about whatever bullsh*t your lack of self-control compels you to discuss RIGHT NOW, I'm going to think you're an asshole.

And really, isn't that what this thread is about?
 
2014-04-09 04:09:06 PM

TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: TheSopwithTurtle: trappedspirit: Have a conversation with someone in public, no problem.  Have a conversation with a remote person in public, the apes start beating their chests and flinging feces.  You can't explain this.

That's because listening to one side of a conversation is more distracting than listening to both sides.

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"

Then butt out.  Simple as that.  Why do I have no problem doing that.   I think it's a matter of self control.  Which I realize some apes don't have, but I can't help them.

Did you completely miss the quote I put right there?

"Hearing one side of the conversation, for example, makes it more uncertain and unpredictable, so our brains are naturally drawn to filling out the missing parts, even if we aren't consciously trying to eavesdrop"

There's plenty of things are brains are naturally draw to.  You can also control that.  You don't have to check out all the shiny things.  Just butt out, or listen in.  Most people don't have OCD.

Flatulence is relatively harmless, but it smells bad and is obnoxious. You can't tell a subconscious not to get revolted by the smell, because biology dictates that we do. Should public flatulence be banned? No, and it won't be. But you can't stop people from staring disapprovingly at the farter, or laughing at the person with poor public hygiene, or going around telling the story of how they were once trapped in an elevator with a bean-distiller. If you don't want that to happen to you, don't fart in public.

Talking on a cellphone is like farting, only slightly less annoying, and somewhat more voluntary. If you want to do it, do it. Just stop acting all martyred and superior when people find it annoying, because they can't help but find it annoying. It's biology.


Well said and good point.
 
2014-04-09 04:14:42 PM

Ex-Texan: Just because you have a cellphone, doesn't mean you have to answer it when it rings.


You do if it's your wife.  Oh yes, you do.

Shiat, if I wasn't married, I wouldn't have this damn leashcell phone.
 
2014-04-09 04:17:30 PM

stonicus: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x680]


What took you so long?
 
2014-04-09 04:27:15 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: trappedspirit: But you are going to get angry at some conversation you were forced to hear?  You sound angry.

Not angry, but if you subject me to half of your conversation about whatever bullsh*t your lack of self-control compels you to discuss RIGHT NOW, I'm going to think you're an asshole.

And really, isn't that what this thread is about?


This thread is about awareness of a brain affliction that compels people who only hear one side of a conversation to lose their self-control and make unreasonable demands for the half-conversation to stop or at least occur out of earshot.  It doesn't affect everyone, but not everyone is aware that people suffer with this condition.
 
2014-04-09 04:50:10 PM
Farking iJunkies, addicted to their iJunk.
 
2014-04-09 04:55:15 PM

trappedspirit: Zulu_as_Kono: trappedspirit: But you are going to get angry at some conversation you were forced to hear?  You sound angry.

Not angry, but if you subject me to half of your conversation about whatever bullsh*t your lack of self-control compels you to discuss RIGHT NOW, I'm going to think you're an asshole.

And really, isn't that what this thread is about?

This thread is about awareness of a brain affliction that compels people who only hear one side of a conversation to lose their self-control and make unreasonable demands for the half-conversation to stop or at least occur out of earshot.  It doesn't affect everyone, but not everyone is aware that people suffer with this condition.


That's not the whole picture. It's not just about hearing one side of a convo, yada yada yada.

Look. I don't walk up to you, yank down your pants and sniff your cock. Why? Because, I don't know you and I, as of yet, have no reason to want to know you, intimately that way.

It's a similar situation. I don't want to be accosted with the personal, private happenings of your life. I don't stick my face in your face and say "well gee Jen, if he forces you to take it in the ass and you're uncomfortable with that and he just makes you drink more, maybe you should leave him!"

Keep your shiat to yourself and don't invade my space.
 
2014-04-09 04:56:34 PM

bughunter: You do if it's your wife.  Oh yes, you do.


You should get a younger wife.  My GF never even has the ringer on her phone turned on nor has she bothered recording a voicemail greeting, but she'll attempt to engage me in lengthy back-and-forth text conversations that could easily be resolved with a 30-second phone call.
 
2014-04-09 05:10:34 PM

Witness99: trappedspirit: Zulu_as_Kono: trappedspirit: But you are going to get angry at some conversation you were forced to hear?  You sound angry.

Not angry, but if you subject me to half of your conversation about whatever bullsh*t your lack of self-control compels you to discuss RIGHT NOW, I'm going to think you're an asshole.

And really, isn't that what this thread is about?

This thread is about awareness of a brain affliction that compels people who only hear one side of a conversation to lose their self-control and make unreasonable demands for the half-conversation to stop or at least occur out of earshot.  It doesn't affect everyone, but not everyone is aware that people suffer with this condition.

That's not the whole picture. It's not just about hearing one side of a convo, yada yada yada.

Look. I don't walk up to you, yank down your pants and sniff your cock. Why? Because, I don't know you and I, as of yet, have no reason to want to know you, intimately that way.

It's a similar situation. I don't want to be accosted with the personal, private happenings of your life. I don't stick my face in your face and say "well gee Jen, if he forces you to take it in the ass and you're uncomfortable with that and he just makes you drink more, maybe you should leave him!"

Keep your shiat to yourself and don't invade my space.


Then what you are saying is people cannot have open conversations in public.  Do you think this is a reasonable expectation?
 
2014-04-09 05:26:27 PM

trappedspirit: Witness99: trappedspirit: Zulu_as_Kono: trappedspirit: But you are going to get angry at some conversation you were forced to hear?  You sound angry.

Not angry, but if you subject me to half of your conversation about whatever bullsh*t your lack of self-control compels you to discuss RIGHT NOW, I'm going to think you're an asshole.

And really, isn't that what this thread is about?

This thread is about awareness of a brain affliction that compels people who only hear one side of a conversation to lose their self-control and make unreasonable demands for the half-conversation to stop or at least occur out of earshot.  It doesn't affect everyone, but not everyone is aware that people suffer with this condition.

That's not the whole picture. It's not just about hearing one side of a convo, yada yada yada.

Look. I don't walk up to you, yank down your pants and sniff your cock. Why? Because, I don't know you and I, as of yet, have no reason to want to know you, intimately that way.

It's a similar situation. I don't want to be accosted with the personal, private happenings of your life. I don't stick my face in your face and say "well gee Jen, if he forces you to take it in the ass and you're uncomfortable with that and he just makes you drink more, maybe you should leave him!"

Keep your shiat to yourself and don't invade my space.

Then what you are saying is people cannot have open conversations in public.  Do you think this is a reasonable expectation?


I don't think I can pass a law forcing people into a certain mode of decorum and respect, no. It's probably not a reasonable expectation at this point in our social evolution. I'm just trying to point out how far we have come from respecting eachother and being aware of our different needs for privacy. Nobody gives a shiat anymore. I literally hear conversations like the fictitious one about Jen getting ass raped every day. It's interesting that we're moving in the direction of total exhibition, total no bounds, total stranger who we feel extremely comfortable discussing our most private issues with.

On that note, I want you all to know that I just ate my leftovers from yesterday I had in the fridge here at work. I just stunk up the whole place with my green curry chicken- everybody is confused because it's NOT EVEN LUNCH TIME BWAHAHAHAHA
 
2014-04-09 05:57:24 PM

Witness99: On that note, I want you all to know that I just ate my leftovers from yesterday I had in the fridge here at work. I just stunk up the whole place with my green curry chicken- everybody is confused because it's NOT EVEN LUNCH TIME BWAHAHAHAHA


Yeah, some jerkface on this floor just forced a lot of us to be intimate with his personal diet by heating up some smelly asian food.
 
2014-04-09 06:00:59 PM

trappedspirit: This thread is about awareness of a brain affliction that compels people who only hear one side of a conversation to lose their self-control and make unreasonable demands for the half-conversation to stop or at least occur out of earshot.


You're precious.
 
2014-04-09 06:02:06 PM

trappedspirit: Then what you are saying is people cannot have open conversations in public.  Do you think this is a reasonable expectation?


You have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public.
 
2014-04-09 06:50:51 PM

Yanks_RSJ: bughunter: You do if it's your wife.  Oh yes, you do.

You should get a younger wife.  My GF


Stopped reading there.  She's not married to you.

Just wait until you say "I do," that shiat'll change overnight.

And remember that before you propose to her...
 
2014-04-09 07:42:00 PM

trappedspirit: Witness99: On that note, I want you all to know that I just ate my leftovers from yesterday I had in the fridge here at work. I just stunk up the whole place with my green curry chicken- everybody is confused because it's NOT EVEN LUNCH TIME BWAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, some jerkface on this floor just forced a lot of us to be intimate with his personal diet by heating up some smelly asian food.


Ok, that's a good point.  So if I feel like farting, or heating up smelly food, I'm really kind of exposing everyone to my personal effects.  So, then why do I complain about those who have loud conversations on their cell phone?

Fine.  You know what, go for it.  But whenever I'm forced to be part of Sally's conversations with Brian (no, they don't know me, they just talk loud) about the love triangle and how their boss is a cross dresser that "insinuates" they should join the swinger club and if they don't they just might not get that promotion - from now on, I'm going to take an active role.  In fact, I'm going to ask her to put it on speaker, because I have a lot to say about this.
 
2014-04-09 08:03:29 PM
A cellphone is basically an asshole magnifier. A person who uses a cellphone in an assholish manner (slowing down the checkout line at a store, for example, or yelling into it or using it in a movie theater) is probably an asshole in other areas of life.
 
2014-04-09 09:33:13 PM

bughunter: Yanks_RSJ: bughunter: You do if it's your wife.  Oh yes, you do.

You should get a younger wife.  My GF

Stopped reading there.  She's not married to you.

Just wait until you say "I do," that shiat'll change overnight.

And remember that before you propose to her...


Thanks for the advice, pops.
 
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