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(Orlando Sentinel)   Problem: You don't want to wait in line at Disney. Solution: Say your kid is autistic and get to skip the line. Problem: Disney wizened up to your ploy. Solution: Sue them   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 187
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2014-04-09 01:49:20 PM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy: Then keep her out of situations where she may attack people.

hey touch guy... I do, the point is to not put anyone in a bad situation, you're the one that whined about autism being a scam when people are saying that not having special privileges would cause hardship on everyone.

You appear to think that I should lock my daughter away and never let her see the light of day ever again, and that I shouldn't dare call a restaurant and ask them to reserve a table that's out of the way because, well, it's fraud.

Trust me, people like you really show how it's the wrong people that end up with these handicaps.  Get into an accident that leaves you paralyzed from the neck down and see how you like being treated like crap.,.. 'cause right now, you appear to be paralyzed from the neck up.


Maybe you should calm down a bit. It's pretty clear from the tone of your posts that it is YOU who is the problem causer (not so much your child). Sorry, son, but just because you want to do something doesn't mean that it's okay for you to disrupt everyone around you.
 
2014-04-09 01:51:15 PM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy: Then keep her out of situations where she may attack people.

hey touch guy... I do, the point is to not put anyone in a bad situation, you're the one that whined about autism being a scam


I never said that, I'm starting to think you have comprehension issues.

You appear to think that I should lock my daughter away and never let her see the light of day ever again, and that I shouldn't dare call a restaurant and ask them to reserve a table that's out of the way because, well, it's fraud.

Yeah, you don't know what words mean and how they interact to make sentences.

Trust me, people like you really show how it's the wrong people that end up with these handicaps.  Get into an accident that leaves you paralyzed from the neck down and see how you like being treated like crap.,.. 'cause right now, you appear to be paralyzed from the neck up.

If it happens, you won't find me suing over my imagined plight at Disney Land.
 
2014-04-09 01:56:51 PM  
I'm in a wheelchair. I can sit in line all farking day.
 
2014-04-09 01:58:35 PM  

imfallen_angel: MelGoesOnTour: imfallen_angel: Heck, why not say what you really think

I pretty much did, I think. The point is that, no matter how you look at it, and as sad as it might seem to some folks, it's not right to expose everyone around you to a tantrum-throwing-screaming kid and then offer a simple explanation of "Oh, that's just the way he is" and figure that the rest of the world has to suck it up and deal with it. Back when he was alive I would have loved to bring my dog everywhere I went (he was better behaved than most children) but understood I could not. There are just some things that you need to do without (like going to the movies, etc) if you feel obligated to bring along a disruptive [handicapped] person. That's just the way it is.

There's a huge difference between a kid that's throwing tantrums for the hell of it because of bad parenting and one that's got an handicap.

Even at her worse, my daughter was still better than a LOT of what I see from "normal" kids while the parent is busy taping on their phone or such.

There was a thread not long ago about bringing an autistic kid to the theatre (movie) and that was worth a  box of popcorn.

The point is, life is what it is, sometimes shiat happens, and you CAN'T compared a freaking dog to a person, sorry. But the point is, most responsible parents do the best to not be disruptive, and in this case, having a child with an handicap that prevents the child to not be disruptive if having to wait in line, well, the smart part is to let them just go... waiting for the next turn isn't going to kill anyone, Jesus Christ on a cracker, it's a freaking ride, not waiting for daily bread to eat otherwise you'd die here.

Between someone having to wait an extra turn or having the kid have an attack, seriously, the parents have to live with this every freaking day, and someone feels too important to wait a little extra which prevents a lot of headaches for everyone?

Sure, some places aren't a good choice to bring an hand ...


I know I'm fine with the program, but the anger is misplaced.

Be pissed at the people hiring disabled kids so they could cut in line and abused the system.

I'm honestly rethinking planning to go to Disneyland with the family.  $6000???? Are you farking kidding me?  I assume that is plane tickets (I'd drive from Oregon) and everything else that Bunny paid for, but goddamn...
 
2014-04-09 02:02:09 PM  
imfallen_angel, The point you are consistently missing is that as unfortunate as your daughter's condition is, it isn't my daughter's, or his daughter's or so on. Sorry for your ordeal, but don't ask me to sacrifice my experience (which I paid just as much, if not more for) for your kid's benefit. It's not my fault you had an unfortunate turn of events, please don't make me pay for it.

Also, your quip about "it's just waiting a turn" shows that you either have never actually been to Disney world, or certainly never been in an airport. Watching overweight assholes boarding rides and flights before you just because they can is beyond annoying.
 
2014-04-09 02:04:06 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Maybe you should calm down a bit. It's pretty clear from the tone of your posts that it is YOU who is the problem causer


to be fair, he does it all the time. Anytime anyone disagrees with him, he goes on the ad-hominem attack, or calls you a troll. Every time. He's one of the most immature people I've ever seen who insists he's the only mature person in the room. He's pathetic.
 
2014-04-09 02:05:29 PM  
Well... I see that the thread has degenerated as per usual with the usual self-deluded, self-serving type.


HotWingConspiracy: Of course, I'm not retarded.


At this point, I just can't believe that.

Bawdy George: It's, like, an ITG duel.


Nah.. more like palm and face making a connection as reading how some are just doing their best to show how nasty mouth breathers they are... I can't even call them human beings, as that normally is meant for people that have some compassion for others than themselves.

But hey, this is Fark/the internet.... it tends to make me lose hope for the future of humanity, and even hope for a zombie apocalypse.
 
2014-04-09 02:08:06 PM  

imfallen_angel: point, I just can't believe that.


I can even stand in lines.
 
2014-04-09 02:11:49 PM  

Geoff Peterson: MelGoesOnTour: Maybe you should calm down a bit. It's pretty clear from the tone of your posts that it is YOU who is the problem causer

to be fair, he does it all the time. Anytime anyone disagrees with him, he goes on the ad-hominem attack, or calls you a troll. Every time. He's one of the most immature people I've ever seen who insists he's the only mature person in the room. He's pathetic.


I don't like the ignore list just on principle, but I don't even use the color-coding thing.  Maybe I should start.
 
2014-04-09 02:12:17 PM  
Imfallen,

The point most are trying to make is this: don't bring a handicapped person to a place that will make their condition worse.

Other than the rave that was brought up earlier, I can't think of a worse place to bring an autistic child than DW.

/don't torture your kid, then call everyone else assholes because they get upset at the child's screams.
 
2014-04-09 02:15:55 PM  

meat0918: Be pissed at the people hiring disabled kids so they could cut in line and abused the system.


Hey, if the idiots in this thread could get their head out of their arses for a moment and understand that we all should not be tolerant of those that abuse any system and leave those that do have some need for a bit of leeway.

Geoff Peterson: imfallen_angel, The point you are consistently missing is that as unfortunate as your daughter's condition is, it isn't my daughter's, or his daughter's or so on. Sorry for your ordeal, but don't ask me to sacrifice my experience (which I paid just as much, if not more for) for your kid's benefit. It's not my fault you had an unfortunate turn of events, please don't make me pay for it.

Also, your quip about "it's just waiting a turn" shows that you either have never actually been to Disney world, or certainly never been in an airport. Watching overweight assholes boarding rides and flights before you just because they can is beyond annoying.


Again... be pissed at those that abuse the systems.  And if you'd have an handicapped child, you might grow the fark up about the subject and understand that maybe there's a lot more behind the situation and that unless you could understand it, you're being an arse.

It's not your fault... and you think I went in life wanting an handicapped child? so this is "my" fault?

Wow... just wow.

"Your experience" ? that's got to be the most self-centered, disgusting, pathetic comment in this whole thread.

Wow, talk about poor little princess syndrome.
 Damn, seriously, some of you are so pathetic that it's just ... I'm lost for words for how sad you are.


just....wow.
 
2014-04-09 02:24:19 PM  

Private_Citizen: Imfallen,

The point most are trying to make is this: don't bring a handicapped person to a place that will make their condition worse.

Other than the rave that was brought up earlier, I can't think of a worse place to bring an autistic child than DW.

/don't torture your kid, then call everyone else assholes because they get upset at the child's screams.


Let's see... what if the kid, even if handicapped, actually loves going on rides?

Anyways,, I doubt that you'd understand the points I've made.... it's not about saying that others should deal with a screaming child, it's about preventing such a situation, but so many consider themselves so important that an extra minute to let an handicapped person go, is just beyond what they believe reasonable.

It just shows how pathetic the world (these people) is.

All I can say is that all the assholes that are whining about it, I will wish them a nasty accident so that they might live it for themselves and see how they'll enjoy it when while they are being pushed on a wheelchair, someone yells at them to go home so to not mess with "their experience".

When instead of a world where people care, want to help others and be understanding, it's GTFO, I'm more important.
 
2014-04-09 02:24:35 PM  

hobnail: imfallen_angel: throw IT (not up)


arghhhhh

Thanks for fixing that-- I was thinking, super strength AND projectile vomiting at will?  Have you considered an excorcism?


Person in question...
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2014-04-09 02:29:03 PM  
If your kid is broken, just stay home.  You don't need to ruin everyone else's good time.

If you can't manage that level of human decency, stick to Knott's Berry Farm.  Everything there is equally broken and horrible, your little monster will fit right in.
 
2014-04-09 02:31:23 PM  
Quite simply, all of us who have kids with disabilities want one primary, and one secondary goal for our children:
1.  To be happy
2.  To be a contributing member of society (which may not be possible, so we focus on #1).

Both of those items require exposing our children to different situations and activities.  Sometimes it works out well, sometimes it doesn't.  That is the reality of raising any kid: 'special needs' or not.

Instead of suggesting to keep our children home (why don't we just label them with the Star of David?), a simple smile or a bit of empathy goes a long way.  At most, we are in line together for 30 minutes and then we get to ride on the back of Dumbo for 45 seconds and we'll never see each other again.  Get over it.  We didn't ruin your day, and you didn't do anything to ours.
 
2014-04-09 02:35:05 PM  

imfallen_angel: All I can say is that all the assholes that are whining about it, I will wish them a nasty accident so that they might live it for themselves and see how they'll enjoy it when while they are being pushed on a wheelchair, someone yells at them to go home so to not mess with "their experience".


I hope your daughter through some miracle gets better one day so she won't have to deal with any of this. You're a very hateful, vicious person.

Also, being pushed in a wheelchair isn't the same thing as a level 10 tard freak out.
 
2014-04-09 02:35:07 PM  
imfallen_angel: After my years of participating and assisting with my daughter's classes and special group with the local autistic assistance center, I really have the opposite view.... the ones that could handle being in a line and waiting are very rare.

It's one thing to plan ahead, but autism is in large part a communication disorder, and very few can be explained something that will stay with them.

Most I've worked with were only able to gulp down the present situation and instructions relating to the present environment, and most would "move" on to their "reset" mode and not understand what they were doing or there for,

Please understand that I'm not belittling your experience at all, but I guess your experience is limited to the higher levels and functional ones.


Not offended at all.  Everyone has a different experience and I think it's great that you were able to be such an active part of your daughter's education.  I think I also mixed my message first by saying children can wait in line and then by saying they can wait and come back later.  Standing in line is certainly much harder, especially for children who have no concept of time.  My therapy kids range from 0-7 years old, though, so I can't state how it would affect older children.

I still stand by my statement, though.  The kids I work with are all cases severe enough that they are in self-contained classes.  Some are non-verbal, some use ASL, some use AAC devices.  I think for most of my kids if I worked on preparing them and gave them a schedule for the park with a schedule such as: 1. Parade, 2. Pictures 3. Lunch 4. Bathroom 5. Peter Pan ride  with an appropriate amount of practice they could understand that.  This would work just fine for kids who have a disability fast pass and can return at a prescheduled time to enter the ride. I would also, in case there was any sort of wait, give them things to do while waiting.

Now if the same children were expected to get to 5. Peter Pan Ride and then wait for 45 minutes to two hours, you are correct that that would be very hard for them.  But I think the point of the pass for Disney is that this is the issue it avoids.  It forces you to schedule the times of entry, but the waiting is limited.
 
2014-04-09 02:44:34 PM  

Saners: I really don't get what they are suing for, or maybe I am just missing that detail in the article.

Does the ADA say that companies are not allowed to make disabled guests wait like every other customer? Or are you not allowed to single out specific disabilities by saying autisic people must wait while people in wheel chairs get the pass?


The parents are simply abusing the "reasonable accommodations" language in the ADA law.  To them, "reasonable" means "immediately, whenever we happen to show up."

IMHO, this is like the story of the autistic kid booed out of the theater for making a scene (actually, his asshat Mom made the scene by not leaving when the kid wanted to go).  If your kids can't wait in line, then perhaps a theme park isn't the best place to take them!

How about any of the major US parks instead?  Yellowstone, Joshua Tree, Yosemite, Grand Canyon, etc.  Even state parks would probably be a more enjoyable experience, given autistic kids' sensitivity to extreme stimuli.

Fark those parents.  THEY want to go, and are simply dragging the kids along as an excuse to avoid the lines.  Ask some autistic kid who visited Disney World 20 years ago what he remembers, and I'll guarantee it will have little to do with the park itself.
 
2014-04-09 02:44:42 PM  

imfallen_angel: hey touch guy... I do, the point is to not put anyone in a bad situation, you're the one that whined about autism being a scam when people are saying that not having special privileges would cause hardship on everyone.


Hey man, I know HotWing.  He hasn't touched anything that someone didn't ask him too.
 
2014-04-09 02:45:13 PM  

wxboy: So they might have to wait their turn just like everyone else, just not having to trudge through line?  The Horror!


To be fair, there are real issues with autistic kids where they aren't able to handle long lines in large crowds. That said, the people who were abusing this are/were out of control. Using the fast pass is a good solution for the issue, and it's available to all park visitors. There's also the option of, if the line gets too overwhelming, having one parent step out with the child while the other stays in line. Honestly, and I say this as the mother of an autistic child, I would rather my daughter become accustomed to standing in a line or otherwise functioning the same way the rest of society does. It's not easy, mind you, but the result is that she'll be able to live a normal life without needing my help when she's older.
 
2014-04-09 02:48:13 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: imfallen_angel: All I can say is that all the assholes that are whining about it, I will wish them a nasty accident so that they might live it for themselves and see how they'll enjoy it when while they are being pushed on a wheelchair, someone yells at them to go home so to not mess with "their experience".

I hope your daughter through some miracle gets better one day so she won't have to deal with any of this. You're a very hateful, vicious person.

Also, being pushed in a wheelchair isn't the same thing as a level 10 tard freak out.


Actually, I'm not... assholes  just bring those things out.

And I agree, I'm sure that in a wheelchair isn't the same as you having a tantrum, but that isn't the point here.  The point, which you've missed yet again, is about the ability to be in a line for a fairly long amount of time.

I could have stated the same points about my wife who has Multiple Sclerosis.  She may perfectly normal to all assholes out there, but after a while, she will start to lose her balance and get weak.

So with your reasoning, she should also stay home to not be a bother to others if dare she get special treatment.

Remember, you assholes are whining that people with handicaps shouldn't have special privileges, and not one of you assholes are able to understand that life for anyone with a real handicap, life has no privileges... all of them would easily trade you their handicaps for the ability to stand in line.

Problem is.. this point is so far over your necks that your little princess complex can't understand this.
 
2014-04-09 02:49:27 PM  

Bunny Deville: Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us.


How about this:  DON'T TAKE YOUR KID TO SENSORYOVERLOADLAND.

You have NO need to be assholes to everyone else in line when a trip to Disney is NOT some requirement for a long, fulfilling life!

Take them to the Everglades!  See NATURE.  ANIMALS.  etc.  Hell of a lot cheaper, and I suspect your demon spawn won't know the difference.
 
2014-04-09 02:51:19 PM  

indy_kid: Ask some autistic kid who visited Disney World 20 years ago what he remembers, and I'll guarantee it will have little to do with the park itself.


How different is that from when you were 1 or 2 years old... if your parents had taken you to something/somewhere that made you laugh, clap your hands, glee with delight, etc....

That you don't remember it today makes it pointless for your parents to have done so.

Bad news if you have kids... you'll need to cage them until they are old enough to remember things in their adult life before you get to do anything.
 
2014-04-09 02:52:11 PM  

indy_kid: You have NO need to be assholes to everyone else in line when a trip to Disney is NOT some requirement for a long, fulfilling life!


Then it's simple... just don't go yourself.

Problem solved.
 
2014-04-09 02:52:32 PM  

indy_kid: Bunny Deville: Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us.

How about this:  DON'T TAKE YOUR KID TO SENSORYOVERLOADLAND.

You have NO need to be assholes to everyone else in line when a trip to Disney is NOT some requirement for a long, fulfilling life!

Take them to the Everglades!  See NATURE.  ANIMALS.  etc.  Hell of a lot cheaper, and I suspect your demon spawn won't know the difference.


Asshole != Autistic.  Know the difference.

If any autistic kid is considered an asshole in your book, perhaps you have some social/personal issues yourself.  You may want to get those addressed.
 
2014-04-09 02:55:41 PM  

imfallen_angel: Private_Citizen: Imfallen,

The point most are trying to make is this: don't bring a handicapped person to a place that will make their condition worse.

Other than the rave that was brought up earlier, I can't think of a worse place to bring an autistic child than DW.

/don't torture your kid, then call everyone else assholes because they get upset at the child's screams.

Let's see... what if the kid, even if handicapped, actually loves going on rides?

Anyways,, I doubt that you'd understand the points I've made.... it's not about saying that others should deal with a screaming child, it's about preventing such a situation, but so many consider themselves so important that an extra minute to let an handicapped person go, is just beyond what they believe reasonable.

It just shows how pathetic the world (these people) is.

All I can say is that all the assholes that are whining about it, I will wish them a nasty accident so that they might live it for themselves and see how they'll enjoy it when while they are being pushed on a wheelchair, someone yells at them to go home so to not mess with "their experience".

When instead of a world where people care, want to help others and be understanding, it's GTFO, I'm more important.


Sure, some handicapped children would probbly love DW. But kids who freak out at sensory overload (like autistic kids)? Not so much.

I don't normally share, but I do understand. One of my daughters has a rare form of anemia that means she has greatly reduced endurance. I recently took the family to the zoo. When the hills and distance became too much for her, I put her on my shoulders (slightly more than 80lbs) and carried her for a few miles. Sure we got a few stares, but I doubt we ruined anyone's day.

I understood going in how it could end up. It's something you have to assess as a parent. If an event or location presents to much risk to my daughter, or would be beyond my ability to handle, then we don't go.

My problem with parents like bunny is it seems they put their desire to have a "normal" family experience ahead of the welfare of their children. Her child could not handle DW, and the problem wasn't with the people who noticed, it's with the parent who inflicted DW on their autistic child.
 
2014-04-09 02:58:06 PM  
If you're pissed because the handicapped are accommodated, under law, by the ADA and you have to wait a few minutes to get on an airplane, park a few spot farther away, or wait that much longer in line at an overpriced tourist trap then there's no way around it: you're a piece of shiat.
 
2014-04-09 03:00:25 PM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy: imfallen_angel: All I can say is that all the assholes that are whining about it, I will wish them a nasty accident so that they might live it for themselves and see how they'll enjoy it when while they are being pushed on a wheelchair, someone yells at them to go home so to not mess with "their experience".

I hope your daughter through some miracle gets better one day so she won't have to deal with any of this. You're a very hateful, vicious person.

Also, being pushed in a wheelchair isn't the same thing as a level 10 tard freak out.

Actually, I'm not... assholes  just bring those things out.

And I agree, I'm sure that in a wheelchair isn't the same as you having a tantrum, but that isn't the point here.  The point, which you've missed yet again, is about the ability to be in a line for a fairly long amount of time.

I could have stated the same points about my wife who has Multiple Sclerosis.  She may perfectly normal to all assholes out there, but after a while, she will start to lose her balance and get weak.

So with your reasoning, she should also stay home to not be a bother to others if dare she get special treatment.

Remember, you assholes are whining that people with handicaps shouldn't have special privileges, and not one of you assholes are able to understand that life for anyone with a real handicap, life has no privileges... all of them would easily trade you their handicaps for the ability to stand in line.

Problem is.. this point is so far over your necks that your little princess complex can't understand this.


Sorry, but no matter how you want to frame this, the correct solution for people unable to stand in lines is to go places that there aren't any lines to deal with. shiatting all over everyone else by demanding the right  to cut the line shows very little interest in actually getting along.
 
2014-04-09 03:02:10 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: imfallen_angel: hey touch guy... I do, the point is to not put anyone in a bad situation, you're the one that whined about autism being a scam when people are saying that not having special privileges would cause hardship on everyone.

Hey man, I know HotWing.  He hasn't touched anything that someone didn't ask him too.


It's an opt-in touching regimen.
 
2014-04-09 03:03:33 PM  

Bunny Deville: I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.


Maybe you could make it your responsibility to choose a vacation more suitable for your child's temperament.

Are you insinuating that an amusement park ride is less stimulating than standing in a line?
 
2014-04-09 03:04:23 PM  

imfallen_angel: Again... be pissed at those that abuse the systems. And if you'd have an handicapped child, you might grow the fark up about the subject and understand that maybe there's a lot more behind the situation and that unless you could understand it, you're being an arse.

It's not your fault... and you think I went in life wanting an handicapped child? so this is "my" fault?

Wow... just wow.

"Your experience" ? that's got to be the most self-centered, disgusting, pathetic comment in this whole thread.

Wow, talk about poor little princess syndrome.
Damn, seriously, some of you are so pathetic that it's just ... I'm lost for words for how sad you are.


just....wo


glad to see you haven't changed. Yes my experience, you douchebag. Why on God's green earth would I want your selfish, inconsiderate asshole of a person to take away from my experience? Leave your kid at home...or stay home yourself. If the kid cant function in society, leave her at home period.

I never said this was your fault. You did. I merely said it's your burden, asshole. Not mine.

Another thing, you should consider that her inability to function in civilized society isnt a handicap, so much as it is a daughter aping her asshole fathers behavior.
 
2014-04-09 03:05:53 PM  

imfallen_angel: indy_kid: You have NO need to be assholes to everyone else in line when a trip to Disney is NOT some requirement for a long, fulfilling life!

Then it's simple... just don't go yourself.

Problem solved.


You do realize that your "...just don't go yourself" solution would mean that  the park is empty of everyone EXCEPT asshat parents with autistic kids?  Somehow, I don't think that's in Disney's business model.

/Have never been to Disney World, despite being stationed in Orlando for 9 months.  It's not my thing.
 
2014-04-09 03:08:18 PM  

discordium: indy_kid: Bunny Deville: Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us.

How about this:  DON'T TAKE YOUR KID TO SENSORYOVERLOADLAND.

You have NO need to be assholes to everyone else in line when a trip to Disney is NOT some requirement for a long, fulfilling life!

Take them to the Everglades!  See NATURE.  ANIMALS.  etc.  Hell of a lot cheaper, and I suspect your demon spawn won't know the difference.

Asshole != Autistic.  Know the difference.

If any autistic kid is considered an asshole in your book, perhaps you have some social/personal issues yourself.  You may want to get those addressed.


I'm calling YOU the asshole for dragging an autistic kid into that sensory nightmare.  Reading Comprehension Fail.
 
2014-04-09 03:16:28 PM  
I have A.D.D. and I get REALLY bored in long lines.  I should get a fast pass as well.  Where do we draw the line?
 
2014-04-09 03:17:28 PM  

Private_Citizen: Sure, some handicapped children would probbly love DW. But kids who freak out at sensory overload (like autistic kids)? Not so much.


Well the problem is, as per this thread show is that everyone's an expert and judge all autistic person as the same, without the ability to understand that this is a spectrum ailment, so no two are the same.

One autistic kid could be overwhelmed by DW, so the parent should understand that and not bring the kid, another one could love it and would be a great experience for them.

How is that different from any other kid?

Look at this thread, so many that would believe themselves "normal" but to the rest of the world, they are absolutely vile assholes that the world would be better off without them.

So it's all a question of perspective, I'm sure that your daughter and mine are and will always be better persons than these assholes, but because of their handicaps, have certain limits and either they, or us as parents understand that. These assholes, not so much. (and that goes for their own limits to be decent human beings, which they can't do)
 
2014-04-09 03:18:16 PM  

Eagles409: I have A.D.D. and I get REALLY bored in long lines.  I should get a fast pass as well.  Where do we draw the line?


You get to bring a pocketful of toys.  Otherwise, you'll just go and move on to the next line.
 
2014-04-09 03:19:00 PM  

indy_kid: imfallen_angel: indy_kid: You have NO need to be assholes to everyone else in line when a trip to Disney is NOT some requirement for a long, fulfilling life!

Then it's simple... just don't go yourself.

Problem solved.

You do realize that your "...just don't go yourself" solution would mean that  the park is empty of everyone EXCEPT asshat parents with autistic kids?  Somehow, I don't think that's in Disney's business model.

/Have never been to Disney World, despite being stationed in Orlando for 9 months.  It's not my thing.


No... it would simply be better people than yourself.
 
2014-04-09 03:20:53 PM  

Geoff Peterson: glad to see you haven't changed. Yes my experience, you douchebag. Why on God's green earth would I want your selfish, inconsiderate asshole of a person to take away from my experience? Leave your kid at home...or stay home yourself. If the kid cant function in society, leave her at home period.

I never said this was your fault. You did. I merely said it's your burden, asshole. Not mine.

Another thing, you should consider that her inability to function in civilized society isnt a handicap, so much as it is a daughter aping her asshole fathers behavior.


What about your inability to function in a civilized way?

Sorry princess, it's not just about you in the world... hate to break your hymen there, but really, you should go see a pro about these things.
 
2014-04-09 03:23:38 PM  

indy_kid: discordium: indy_kid: Bunny Deville: Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us.

How about this:  DON'T TAKE YOUR KID TO SENSORYOVERLOADLAND.

You have NO need to be assholes to everyone else in line when a trip to Disney is NOT some requirement for a long, fulfilling life!

Take them to the Everglades!  See NATURE.  ANIMALS.  etc.  Hell of a lot cheaper, and I suspect your demon spawn won't know the difference.

Asshole != Autistic.  Know the difference.

If any autistic kid is considered an asshole in your book, perhaps you have some social/personal issues yourself.  You may want to get those addressed.

I'm calling YOU the asshole for dragging an autistic kid into that sensory nightmare.  Reading Comprehension Fail.



I truly hope that when/if you have children that this is not something with which you will be faced.  I truly do, and though I am an asshole in your book, I completely mean every bit of that last sentence.

And no one is dragging a child anywhere.  Seriously.  Get over yourself.  Autistic children can be obsessed with various shows (Disney shows!) and trains.  Disney can bring those dreams to life for the child, and you can even find a connection with your child that you would not otherwise have.  The smile that you would not get (almost ever) when your child is on a Disney train (or with Mickey, etc) is amazing, if-not-fleeting.  I would stand in line for hours if it meant I could connect with my son and relate to him in a way that he sees the world, and I would forever stand in line if that meant he would be cured of autism.

Trust me, I would not be standing next to stinky, sweaty, tourists unless there was a damn good reason.  Seeing a smile on a child who often does not have one is well worth it.  Being able to get your son to say more than one word at a time when he sees Mickey is well worth it.  Standing in line and doing my best to keep him contained and calm is worth it.

Go fark yourself and learn more about the disorder.  I will be in line with my child, if you can handle it: It's not changing nor would I ever ask for a pass to skip the line.  Kids with CP or MD have significantly less endurance and need that help.
 
2014-04-09 03:24:51 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Sorry, but no matter how you want to frame this, the correct solution for people unable to stand in lines is to go places that there aren't any lines to deal with. shiatting all over everyone else by demanding the right to cut the line shows very little interest in actually getting along.


Well, just be sure to bring up that anyone with an handicap is called "shiatting all over everyone else" in every conversation that you can, it'll be a real party starter.

Only assholes believe that letting someone with an handicap pass in front is a show of very little interest in getting along, if you can't understand that being born with an handicap sucks and getting a break now and then is simply a nice thing, well....

I guess this warrants you being given a "poor little princess" badge.
 
2014-04-09 03:29:20 PM  

imfallen_angel: What about your inability to function in a civilized way?

Sorry princess, it's not just about you in the world... hate to break your hymen there, but really, you should go see a pro about these things.


making shiat up to back up your point doesnt automatically allow you to 'win', dumbass.
 
2014-04-09 03:31:30 PM  

Geoff Peterson: imfallen_angel: What about your inability to function in a civilized way?

Sorry princess, it's not just about you in the world... hate to break your hymen there, but really, you should go see a pro about these things.

making shiat up to back up your point doesnt automatically allow you to 'win', dumbass.


You know that you are really not helping yourself with the whole not being a "tard" thing...

I guess :

"tard" = for those special moments when just being an asshole just isn't enough.
 
2014-04-09 03:33:07 PM  
I have to say... I so would hate to see the three asshole princess from this thread have kids.

I would have so much pity for these kids.

Seriously, you guys have to be wearing bicycle helmets 24/7.
 
2014-04-09 03:34:07 PM  

imfallen_angel: Geoff Peterson: imfallen_angel: What about your inability to function in a civilized way?

Sorry princess, it's not just about you in the world... hate to break your hymen there, but really, you should go see a pro about these things.

making shiat up to back up your point doesnt automatically allow you to 'win', dumbass.

You know that you are really not helping yourself with the whole not being a "tard" thing...

I guess :

"tard" = for those special moments when just being an asshole just isn't enough.


Sure whatever. I'm not the one being a complete asshole and then complaining that no one wants to give me special treatment. You can say all the snarky things you want, but it doesnt change the fact that I am right and you are wrong.
 
2014-04-09 03:35:51 PM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy: Sorry, but no matter how you want to frame this, the correct solution for people unable to stand in lines is to go places that there aren't any lines to deal with. shiatting all over everyone else by demanding the right to cut the line shows very little interest in actually getting along.

Well, just be sure to bring up that anyone with an handicap is called "shiatting all over everyone else" in every conversation that you can, it'll be a real party starter.


I certainly don't mind telling their parents that, especially the ones that are farking suing over it.

Only assholes believe that letting someone with an handicap pass in front is a show of very little interest in getting along, if you can't understand that being born with an handicap sucks and getting a break now and then is simply a nice thing, well....

And if you don't "get a break" that you feel shows enough fealty to your situation, you sue?

I guess this warrants you being given a "poor little princess" badge.

Again, you're a hateful person. Karma hit your ass hard.
 
2014-04-09 03:37:15 PM  

Geoff Peterson: imfallen_angel: Again... be pissed at those that abuse the systems. And if you'd have an handicapped child, you might grow the fark up about the subject and understand that maybe there's a lot more behind the situation and that unless you could understand it, you're being an arse.

It's not your fault... and you think I went in life wanting an handicapped child? so this is "my" fault?

Wow... just wow.

"Your experience" ? that's got to be the most self-centered, disgusting, pathetic comment in this whole thread.

Wow, talk about poor little princess syndrome.
Damn, seriously, some of you are so pathetic that it's just ... I'm lost for words for how sad you are.


just....wo

glad to see you haven't changed. Yes my experience, you douchebag. Why on God's green earth would I want your selfish, inconsiderate asshole of a person to take away from my experience? Leave your kid at home...or stay home yourself. If the kid cant function in society, leave her at home period.

I never said this was your fault. You did. I merely said it's your burden, asshole. Not mine.

Another thing, you should consider that her inability to function in civilized society isnt a handicap, so much as it is a daughter aping her asshole fathers behavior.


We all go to these insane crazy, sweaty, hot, smelly, crowded places for similar reasons: To have fun or see a smile on someone's face.

If <b>anyone</b> impacts you so much that your experience is significantly altered, perhaps you should stay home? The world is full of different people, and some compassion and empathy go a long way.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that your would be impacted if someone broke a ride or physically injured you... Then yes, I, too would be impacted (and understand).  Otherwise a screaming kid bumping into me or someone being rude doesn't, nor should it, alter my day.
 
2014-04-09 03:37:48 PM  

imfallen_angel: I have to say... I so would hate to see the three asshole princess from this thread have kids.

I would have so much pity for these kids.

Seriously, you guys have to be wearing bicycle helmets 24/7.


Why would someone with a kid like yours be constantly tossing out retard jokes? I'm getting the sense that you're pretty sensitive about your own situation and nobody else's.
 
2014-04-09 03:42:18 PM  

Geoff Peterson: Sure whatever. I'm not the one being a complete asshole1and then complaining that no one wants to give me special treatment. You can say all the snarky things you want, but it doesnt change the fact that I am right and you are wrong2.


1yes, yes you are... you just can't see it from that horse you're on.

2confirmation

It's a question that you don't need special treatment, someone with an handicap does, but then again, the way you're posting, it's becoming debatable.
 
2014-04-09 03:43:32 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Again, you're a hateful person. Karma hit your ass hard.


LOL... really... keep trying.
 
2014-04-09 03:45:21 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: imfallen_angel: I have to say... I so would hate to see the three asshole princess from this thread have kids.

I would have so much pity for these kids.

Seriously, you guys have to be wearing bicycle helmets 24/7.

Why would someone with a kid like yours be constantly tossing out retard jokes? I'm getting the sense that you're pretty sensitive about your own situation and nobody else's.


Well, the difference between you and me is, I know the difference between someone that's handicapped, and someone that's an stupid asshole.

The first is the topic of the thread, the second is you.
 
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