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(Orlando Sentinel)   Problem: You don't want to wait in line at Disney. Solution: Say your kid is autistic and get to skip the line. Problem: Disney wizened up to your ploy. Solution: Sue them   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 187
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2014-04-09 10:58:19 AM  

Mistress Jedana: Mugato: Just rent wheelchairs like everyone else.


doesn't work that way anymore.  Wheelchairs don't get priority passes.  They have to go wait in line like everyone else, except on most rides at Disneyland, they go in the exit, since the entrances of the rides aren't wheelchair accessible.  At WDW, they can go in the lines, with a few exceptions (like Toy STory Mania, they have to go into the ride in a different area due to stairs).


Oh. I met some girls at WDW who had wheelchairs so they could skip ahead in lines but this was like over a decade ago.
 
2014-04-09 11:02:02 AM  

Farktastic: Bunny Deville: I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

So the fact that you are taking a kid who can't actually handle the place you are going is a good idea, and you demand accommodation for him when you won't do the same? Sounds more like you're torturing the poor kid so the rest of your family can go.  I enjoy barbecue competitions, I don't take my vegan cousin (who can't handle the sight of blood or smell of meat) to them...

Maybe have a vacation where he can enjoy it too is a better choice.


I just became a vegan, but you can take me. Oh the smell *deep inhale* OHMYGODIMISSBBQ...
 
2014-04-09 11:02:40 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Hahahha, what a scam these people have going.


Well... my daughter who is autistic can pick a couch up easily and throw up if she wanted.  Just grabbing my wife's wrist, she broke it twice.  and this was when my daughter was around 12 years old... she's now 21.

I would be amused to watch you go in fetal position if you were to have to be next to her if she was to have a freak out.

/when we do take her out, we call ahead to inform wherever we are going that we'll need certain preparation. Never had a problem.
 
2014-04-09 11:03:08 AM  

Mugato: Mistress Jedana: Mugato: Just rent wheelchairs like everyone else.


doesn't work that way anymore.  Wheelchairs don't get priority passes.  They have to go wait in line like everyone else, except on most rides at Disneyland, they go in the exit, since the entrances of the rides aren't wheelchair accessible.  At WDW, they can go in the lines, with a few exceptions (like Toy STory Mania, they have to go into the ride in a different area due to stairs).

Oh. I met some girls at WDW who had wheelchairs so they could skip ahead in lines but this was like over a decade ago.


As recent as a year or so ago, there was a lady bragging about hiring disabled kids, so she could skip the lines at DW. It was a service, and she felt entitled to use it since she was rich enough to afford it, and cool enough to know about it. Oh yeah, and it gave the disabled kids cash.
 
2014-04-09 11:03:23 AM  
throw IT (not up)


arghhhhh
 
2014-04-09 11:16:43 AM  

imfallen_angel: throw IT (not up)


arghhhhh


Thanks for fixing that-- I was thinking, super strength AND projectile vomiting at will?  Have you considered an excorcism?
 
2014-04-09 11:17:15 AM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


Your right, I have worked just as hard if not harder than you to be able to afford to take my kids to WDW.  Your also right in saying that I don't want to listen / see your brat have a total meltdown while having to wait less than 5 minutes in the FP return line.  I have a better idea..DO GO TO FARKING DISNEY WORLD IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU STUPID BIATCH.  I have friends with kids "on the spectrum" and believe me the last place in the world they go is the mouse house.  Its a big beautiful world out there so GO SOMEWHERE ELSE !!!!
 
2014-04-09 11:24:22 AM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy: Hahahha, what a scam these people have going.

Well... my daughter who is autistic can pick a couch up easily and throw up if she wanted.  Just grabbing my wife's wrist, she broke it twice.  and this was when my daughter was around 12 years old... she's now 21.

I would be amused to watch you go in fetal position if you were to have to be next to her if she was to have a freak out.

/when we do take her out, we call ahead to inform wherever we are going that we'll need certain preparation. Never had a problem.


I would work your daughter's head like a speed bag if she attacked me. Sorry, just being honest.
 
2014-04-09 11:32:30 AM  
Bunny Deville, you need to come to grips with the fact that your kid is autistic.

No, he will not show on the family picture in Disney, because you are not going to take him again.

Yes, you will have to explain to the rest of the family and friends that he did not go to the Disney trip with you not because it is an inconvenience for you, but because it is very unsettling for him.

No, we are not dickweeds.  We are looking out for the best interest for your son.  Your son has a condition that he did not choose, and you and your husband did not intend for him to have.  And on his condition, sensory overload is quite painful for him.  Just like a cringe my teeth when I see a toddler running alone towards a busy street and kid asking for mommy in a crowded area, I feel awful when I see autistic children at amusement parks, sporting events or concerts.

Yes, you are reacting just like the parents that show up after 10 minutes of their little kid asking for mommy or I trap before they reach the street.  You don't even say thank you for watching out for my child, which I could not care for properly.  You are more concern about the speech and the stare I am going to give you for being such an incompetent parent.

Yes, you are the dickweed.
 
2014-04-09 11:35:43 AM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


10/10

This is how it's done, boys.
 
2014-04-09 11:36:33 AM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about what you're saying.


My oldest (6) is autistic. Standing still and transitions cause meltdowns so I know exactly what you're going through. I took my child to Disneyland Paris last year and my kid started running off when we got in line, being distracted by everything. I just brought him back in line and then started pointing at everything and asking him what it was. Tiring, but it kept him occupied. The kid is crazy about trains so we rode the park's train more than anything. I didn't use fast pass as it was new to me and didn't have a lot of time. I even wasn't aware of the disabled benefits. I think I handled him well. To those out there that would use autism as a disguise to get ahead in the line though, I hope they get the chance to have their own autistic child, this shiat isn't funny and it's no picnic either.
 
2014-04-09 11:45:25 AM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about what you're saying.


No 1 curr


You still don't have to wait in line. What's the problem?
 
2014-04-09 12:03:45 PM  

Geoff Peterson: Bunny Deville:

10/10
This is how it's done, boys.


This!!!
Even being sure it's a troll, I'm STILL trying to come up with snark.

/"I don't know how to parent, maybe my kid's autistic!!"
 
2014-04-09 12:08:48 PM  

msP: Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickwe ...


Same here. I understand the whole family vacation thing. What I don't understand is going to a location that in itself is overstimulating.

For example, I have a spinal cord injury. I am not allowed to ride rollar coasters. My family always went to Cedar Point. However, since I can't ride the rides, its kind of pointless to spend that much money on gas and tickets for me to sit on my butt the whole day. Instead, we found new activities that we all enjoy and I can physically do. Win-Win for everyone!

Its a give and take world. Do I need accomondations, yes. However, do I expect everyone else to "suffer" so I can get them, no. That is what ADA means by "reasonable".
 
2014-04-09 12:11:03 PM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


You spent how many thousands of dollars to torture your autistic son?
 
2014-04-09 12:12:29 PM  
Why don't you bring your autistic kid to a rave instead?
 
2014-04-09 12:17:43 PM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


How many replies wondering why the Fast Pass solution they offered isn't sufficient for you and your family?
 
2014-04-09 12:20:36 PM  
HotWingConspiracy:

I would work your daughter's head like a speed bag if she attacked me. Sorry, just being honest.

So...

you are:

1) think that people with handicaps are a scam
2) would beat an handicapped person because , well.. internet tough guy.

My daughter's mental capacity is because she's handicapped, what's your excuse?

/ps... it took 2 nurses and a security guard to stop her during the "bad times" when she was 12, you wouldn't even know what would have hit you... she's that fast.
/also, you completely missed the point, which was why some people with handicaps cannot wait patiently in line.
/lastly, you'd touch my daughter, and it would be your last day.
 
2014-04-09 12:21:29 PM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


THEY STILL OFFER THE DISABILITY PASS.

GOODBYE.
 
2014-04-09 12:23:48 PM  

elgrancerdo: No, we are not dickweeds.


Actually, after reading your post... yes, yes you are... self centered, full of yourself, and clueless to a very pathetic degree.
 
2014-04-09 12:24:22 PM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


I respect what you feel. For credentials, my son is 10, and just now is learning to make 3-word sentences (classic autism) ... the problem isn't that people are assholes. It's that they seem to think autism is the new ADHD. They don't seem to notice that both Rain Man and that socially awkward guy in the cubicle next to them both fall under the "Autism" label. But that's okay. No one needs to know unless they deal with it regularly. But, you know, I'm not a construction worker yet I know how to use a hammer. Some things should be common sense.

The real damage comes from how autism is medically labeled. All the shiat that falls under the "autism" label, including classic autism (think Rain Man) and mild aspergers (virtually unnoticeable during brief interaction)

I was talking to an MSSW just yesterday that said her aunt was autistic, and was a veterinarian. I thought "You're not helping." but I let it go, seeing as that would have been an uphill battle since mental illness was her field of expertise.

TL;DR - People don't know that "autism" can mean "requires caretaker for 12 hours a day" just as well as "slightly socially awkward but otherwise self-sufficient" .... they need different words, dammit. We can't keep putting all this stuff under one label.
 
2014-04-09 12:29:00 PM  
As someone who works daily with kids in the spectrum , I can say with confidence that most (but not all) Can wait in line without a meltdown. The important thing is to prepare them. You have to do work for a big trip like WDW: watch videos about the park, make a schedule for the day, plan sensory relief times, create a social story, practice waiting, pretend different scenarios in order to gain experience, etc.

You can't just waltz off and expect them to know what is happening with no preparation. If you do proper preparation, though, almost all children on the spectrum can understand the concept of returning to a ride for their turn at a specific point in time. It's hard but it's certainly doable.
 
2014-04-09 12:29:55 PM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


You still may have some sand in your vag from one of the water rides.  Might want to check that.
 
2014-04-09 12:34:05 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: How about you...and this might be hard for you to digest...NOT GO OUT with the little shiat in tow?! I mean, have him stay with grandparents or something and tell him "it's a special day" or whatever works.


Heck, why not say what you really think, have the kid put in a cage, shot behind the shed so that he's not a problem for anyone.

What you and others fail.. and I really mean FAIL to understand is that life goes on, doing the best that you can do, the kid didn't ask to be born this way and sometimes, just trying something new might be good for them.

Life is not just about you... the little shiat, might not be who you think.

I know that my daughter is completely innocent, doesn't have a mean bone, doesn't have an ego, doesn't have anything to prove, and a much much better person than most on Fark are.

Sorry but she, and other handicapped people out there have a right to enjoy life and those around them that are trying to provide a good life, new experiences, many are doing the best they can.

Something about tolerance and understanding, which I see that your parents FAILED to teach you.

If there was a way to transfer such handicaps to people like yourself, I'd love it, then maybe you'd STFU after living a few days in that life and a body and mind that's a permanent prison.

My daughter, and all like her will never have a normal life, so giving them something once in a while, and not holding the rest of the family as hostage is something that you appear to not have the capacity to understand.
 
2014-04-09 12:36:41 PM  

PetuniaPumpkin: As someone who works daily with kids in the spectrum , I can say with confidence that most (but not all) Can wait in line without a meltdown. The important thing is to prepare them. You have to do work for a big trip like WDW: watch videos about the park, make a schedule for the day, plan sensory relief times, create a social story, practice waiting, pretend different scenarios in order to gain experience, etc.

You can't just waltz off and expect them to know what is happening with no preparation. If you do proper preparation, though, almost all children on the spectrum can understand the concept of returning to a ride for their turn at a specific point in time. It's hard but it's certainly doable.


My boy handles off-routine events better than most autistic kids, I imagine. He's gotten better as he's grown older, too. But as 3-6 year old, we had a ritual of stopping a bit away from a stressor for about 10 minutes before going forward.

Like, when it was haircut time, I'd let the staff know we were going to sit up front for 15 minutes or so and to let others go ahead. He'd watch and listen and then eventually start edging towards the chairs slowly - that was the cue to bust out the gummy bears and tell the woman she has about 10 minutes to get his hair cut. Heh.

The internet is also an amazing tool for finding pictures or videos of new places and events. We can teach him what things are called and bombard him with images and sounds long before we get to the actual event. Everything from a new apartment to the beach. Love the internet. We broke his fear of elevators via YouTube.

Anyway, agreed, a little prep work makes a world of difference. It changes fear and panic attacks to curiosity and maybe even excitement.
 
2014-04-09 12:37:11 PM  
Reasonable accommodations are supposed to be made for disabled people under the ADA.
Autism is a disability.
Now, whether skipping the line vs. having an appointment pass or whatever goes beyond what a reasonable accommodation is,  I don't know. But if one type of disability can skip the line but another can not, well, I guess that's why we have a tort system.


Don't complain about lawsuits when without them all of us would be completely at the mercy of corporations and government (more so than now) and at least this one can set a precedent on this issue.
 
2014-04-09 12:42:08 PM  

JPSimonetti: The real damage comes from how autism is medically labeled. All the shiat that falls under the "autism" label, including classic autism (think Rain Man) and mild aspergers (virtually unnoticeable during brief interaction)


Problem is... people see a movie or a tv feel-good story about it and suddenly, everyone's an expert.

Rain man is a terrible example of autism as it pushes the whole autism = special abilities.

Your son is just 10 and able to speak words, which puts him fairly high on the manageable level, so at least you have some communication, which, I'll say it, consider yourself lucky.

My daughter is a forever 1 1/2 baby with no language skills at all, and still I consider myself also lucky as she does respond to basic instructions, recognizes her name and things such as "come here", "food (come and eat)" and such, as I've seen some that are so much worse.

As I mentioned in my other posts, at 12 she became very violent, and it took a long time to work it out, figure out what medication would help, and now she's better than she's ever been, but still, as your son will hit puberty, expect changes and hopefully you have a good doctor/specialist to assist you.  We didn't, and it was hell.
 
2014-04-09 12:42:46 PM  
wizened?

wiz·ened
ˈwizənd,ˈwē-/
adjective
adjective: wizened
1
.
shriveled or wrinkled with age.


interesting.  i wised up on the meaning of that word.  thanks subby.
 
2014-04-09 12:43:12 PM  
Just because your kid is artistic you should not get to move to the front of the line! What is it with these artistic kids getting all of these deals!
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2014-04-09 12:44:57 PM  

groppet: My favorite time to go to amusement parks was in October when the season was winding down. There were no lines for anything and a lot of times if you wanted to go on the same ride again you could just tell the people running it you wanted to go again. That all stopped when places started doing stuff all October for Halloween.


For the year-round parks, the best time to go is in January. Everyone's paying off their Christmas debt and all the kids are back in school, meaning there's hardly anyone at the parks. For the seasonal parks, September during the week is probably the best time to go because all the kids are back in school. Don't go in May, when they first open, because that's when all the schools do their end-of-the-year field trips to the amusement parks.

GORDON: cowsaregoodeating: Disney gave carte blanche to disabled people. Inconsiderate people found a way to use it for dishonest and profitable ways. Disney changed the policy so that disabled people are inconvenienced and dishonest people get no benefit.

Sounds like the way the world works. I hope the court case is thrown out and it cost the parents lots of money.

I was wheelchair bound from 2000-2004, but got to go to Disney World once, MAN did it piss me off seeing people take advantage.

Fat aint a disability, it's a choice.  Autistic... welp, I don't know how the entire world can accommodate those who just cannot function in the world.


This is one reason I like non-Disney parks, like Cedar Point and Kings Island. Most of the rides are roller coasters, and it's really difficult to abuse the system. Physics doesn't care if you think your fat-ass is entitled to skip the line, and you won't be allowed on the ride if you don't meet the requirements to ride safely.
 
2014-04-09 12:51:09 PM  

PetuniaPumpkin: As someone who works daily with kids in the spectrum , I can say with confidence that most (but not all) Can wait in line without a meltdown. The important thing is to prepare them. You have to do work for a big trip like WDW: watch videos about the park, make a schedule for the day, plan sensory relief times, create a social story, practice waiting, pretend different scenarios in order to gain experience, etc.

You can't just waltz off and expect them to know what is happening with no preparation. If you do proper preparation, though, almost all children on the spectrum can understand the concept of returning to a ride for their turn at a specific point in time. It's hard but it's certainly doable.



After my years of participating and assisting with my daughter's classes and special group with the local autistic assistance center, I really have the opposite view.... the ones that could handle being in a line and waiting are very rare.

It's one thing to plan ahead, but autism is in large part a communication disorder, and very few can be explained something that will stay with them.

Most I've worked with were only able to gulp down the present situation and instructions relating to the present environment, and most would "move" on to their "reset" mode and not understand what they were doing or there for,

Please understand that I'm not belittling your experience at all, but I guess your experience is limited to the higher levels and functional ones.
 
2014-04-09 12:52:58 PM  

CraicBaby: groppet: My favorite time to go to amusement parks was in October when the season was winding down. There were no lines for anything and a lot of times if you wanted to go on the same ride again you could just tell the people running it you wanted to go again. That all stopped when places started doing stuff all October for Halloween.

For the year-round parks, the best time to go is in January. Everyone's paying off their Christmas debt and all the kids are back in school, meaning there's hardly anyone at the parks. For the seasonal parks, September during the week is probably the best time to go because all the kids are back in school. Don't go in May, when they first open, because that's when all the schools do their end-of-the-year field trips to the amusement parks.

GORDON: cowsaregoodeating: Disney gave carte blanche to disabled people. Inconsiderate people found a way to use it for dishonest and profitable ways. Disney changed the policy so that disabled people are inconvenienced and dishonest people get no benefit.

Sounds like the way the world works. I hope the court case is thrown out and it cost the parents lots of money.

I was wheelchair bound from 2000-2004, but got to go to Disney World once, MAN did it piss me off seeing people take advantage.

Fat aint a disability, it's a choice.  Autistic... welp, I don't know how the entire world can accommodate those who just cannot function in the world.

This is one reason I like non-Disney parks, like Cedar Point and Kings Island. Most of the rides are roller coasters, and it's really difficult to abuse the system. Physics doesn't care if you think your fat-ass is entitled to skip the line, and you won't be allowed on the ride if you don't meet the requirements to ride safely.



We went to Universal Studios in Burbank on Friday and the lines were a breeze until around noon. No way we'll go during Summer, though. Can't wait for the kid to get over 4 feet so we can skip this stuff and go to Magic Mountain.
 
2014-04-09 12:58:28 PM  

imfallen_angel: Heck, why not say what you really think


I pretty much did, I think. The point is that, no matter how you look at it, and as sad as it might seem to some folks, it's not right to expose everyone around you to a tantrum-throwing-screaming kid and then offer a simple explanation of "Oh, that's just the way he is" and figure that the rest of the world has to suck it up and deal with it. Back when he was alive I would have loved to bring my dog everywhere I went (he was better behaved than most children) but understood I could not. There are just some things that you need to do without (like going to the movies, etc) if you feel obligated to bring along a disruptive [handicapped] person. That's just the way it is.
 
2014-04-09 01:01:33 PM  

imfallen_angel: as your son will hit puberty, expect changes


I remember back when he was 3 or 4 and his team was really pushing hard to get him to communicate ..., they made it really clear that by the time he was 9 or 10, there would be hell to pay when he started to realize that others could talk and he couldn't. And that he would be unable to voice frustration or requests. It's hard to even imagine him hitting puberty. I still think of him as a baby. He's probably on the level of a 3 year old right now, at age 10.

What worries me the most is that he has both OCD and Bipolar in his bloodline. So there's a 33% chance he'll be bipolar. I haven't found numbers on OCD yet (they don't even know WHY it's genetic yet, it just is). The OCD is already showing up starting this year, we think. If he's bipolar, it will be absolute hell. I guess it's good that we won't have to find a diagnosis for the behavior, at least. It took doctors years to find it in me.

I have always felt lucky, though. I was raised within an environment where I had daily close-contact with special needs individuals, and my boy lucked out that he landed with me. I feel lucky, because I know he was lucky and it makes me happy to take care of him. Dare I say, I'd rather not have a 'normal' child. This situation works out best for me.

I don't think I'd say the same if he was a girl, though. I'd be so paranoid about what people around her would be up to while I wasn't there. Things would be handled very differently in terms of school and such. Even now, I ask him about bruises or scratches he has and about half the time he can put it into words. I suspect kids at his school are making him curse and getting him trouble for it (he doesn't at home) and there was one incident last year where a little girl's face was shoved down into a water fountain or something, and the students said he did it but he's not at all hands-on or violent so I think someone pinned it on him. Stuff like that. Kids are assholes.
 
2014-04-09 01:02:58 PM  

imfallen_angel: Well... my daughter who is autistic can pick a couch up easily and throw up if she wanted. Just grabbing my wife's wrist, she broke it twice. and this was when my daughter was around 12 years old... she's now 21.


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2014-04-09 01:04:22 PM  
Oh, also, she said you'll get me when I'm old and wizened and not a day before that.
 
2014-04-09 01:05:48 PM  
I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...

sounds like this guy's got a case of Aspergers. You assholes!
 
2014-04-09 01:10:55 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: imfallen_angel: Heck, why not say what you really think

I pretty much did


I think the point is valid, though the wording was a little too honest. You see this same thing come up constantly in restaurant threads where most of the thread agrees that people should just keep their kids at home if they can't handle it.

Things just get a little touchier once you bring up that their disabled. But, it's still true even though it's not PC to say it. I take my kid (10, autistic) to family restaurants and slap his iPad in front of him. He'll much on fries/chips/whatever and keep to himself in his own little world. But, I would never take him to a movie theater. I'm not even going to try. Because it would be a train wreck and piss off everyone else that paid $28 for their ticket.

Parents should tailor their activities to their kid's personalities. That's what spending time as a family is all about. Mutual interests. And not bothering those around you should be common sense. Should.
 
2014-04-09 01:13:56 PM  

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.


or leave the little potato at home if he can't compose himself in public
 
2014-04-09 01:18:34 PM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy:

I would work your daughter's head like a speed bag if she attacked me. Sorry, just being honest.

So...

you are:

1) think that people with handicaps are a scam


I never said that, read harder.

2) would beat an handicapped person because , well.. internet tough guy.

Because they attacked me. I'm not going to get pummeled to be a nice, understanding guy.

My daughter's mental capacity is because she's handicapped, what's your excuse?

/ps... it took 2 nurses and a security guard to stop her during the "bad times" when she was 12, you wouldn't even know what would have hit you... she's that fast.


I'm sorry, I'm not buying that your daughter is an autistic barbarian ninja.

/also, you completely missed the point, which was why some people with handicaps cannot wait patiently in line.

Don't put them in lines then.

/lastly, you'd touch my daughter, and it would be your last day.

Then keep her out of situations where she may attack people.
 
2014-04-09 01:18:54 PM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy:

I would work your daughter's head like a speed bag if she attacked me. Sorry, just being honest.

So...

you are:

1) think that people with handicaps are a scam
2) would beat an handicapped person because , well.. internet tough guy.

My daughter's mental capacity is because she's handicapped, what's your excuse?

/ps... it took 2 nurses and a security guard to stop her during the "bad times" when she was 12, you wouldn't even know what would have hit you... she's that fast.
/also, you completely missed the point, which was why some people with handicaps cannot wait patiently in line.
/lastly, you'd touch my daughter, and it would be your last day.


Then keep her on her farking leash.
 
2014-04-09 01:27:06 PM  

JPSimonetti: Kids are assholes.


Yeah, and then those assholes grow up to be farkers as per some in here as you've probably seen.
 
2014-04-09 01:30:40 PM  

JPSimonetti: Parents should tailor their activities to their kid's personalities. That's what spending time as a family is all about. Mutual interests. And not bothering those around you should be common sense. Should.


Well said. Bravo to you.  :)
 
2014-04-09 01:31:45 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Why don't you bring your autistic kid to a rave instead?


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2014-04-09 01:36:23 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: imfallen_angel: Heck, why not say what you really think

I pretty much did, I think. The point is that, no matter how you look at it, and as sad as it might seem to some folks, it's not right to expose everyone around you to a tantrum-throwing-screaming kid and then offer a simple explanation of "Oh, that's just the way he is" and figure that the rest of the world has to suck it up and deal with it. Back when he was alive I would have loved to bring my dog everywhere I went (he was better behaved than most children) but understood I could not. There are just some things that you need to do without (like going to the movies, etc) if you feel obligated to bring along a disruptive [handicapped] person. That's just the way it is.


There's a huge difference between a kid that's throwing tantrums for the hell of it because of bad parenting and one that's got an handicap.

Even at her worse, my daughter was still better than a LOT of what I see from "normal" kids while the parent is busy taping on their phone or such.

There was a thread not long ago about bringing an autistic kid to the theatre (movie) and that was worth a  box of popcorn.

The point is, life is what it is, sometimes shiat happens, and you CAN'T compared a freaking dog to a person, sorry. But the point is, most responsible parents do the best to not be disruptive, and in this case, having a child with an handicap that prevents the child to not be disruptive if having to wait in line, well, the smart part is to let them just go... waiting for the next turn isn't going to kill anyone, Jesus Christ on a cracker, it's a freaking ride, not waiting for daily bread to eat otherwise you'd die here.

Between someone having to wait an extra turn or having the kid have an attack, seriously, the parents have to live with this every freaking day, and someone feels too important to wait a little extra which prevents a lot of headaches for everyone?

Sure, some places aren't a good choice to bring an handicapped person, but in places that are for families, to deny them the chance to be a little normal and do a family activity... come on, how conceived and self-serving must one be to get pissy about it.
 
2014-04-09 01:37:45 PM  

Mr. Cat Poop: Then keep her on her farking leash.


nah, I keep that for your mom, she likes it extra tight.
 
2014-04-09 01:39:24 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: /also, you completely missed the point, which was why some people with handicaps cannot wait patiently in line.

Don't put them in lines then.


Derp, isn't that the whole point of the article and this thread...

wow... seriously, can you even tie your own shoes?
 
2014-04-09 01:44:24 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Then keep her out of situations where she may attack people.


hey touch guy... I do, the point is to not put anyone in a bad situation, you're the one that whined about autism being a scam when people are saying that not having special privileges would cause hardship on everyone.

You appear to think that I should lock my daughter away and never let her see the light of day ever again, and that I shouldn't dare call a restaurant and ask them to reserve a table that's out of the way because, well, it's fraud.

Trust me, people like you really show how it's the wrong people that end up with these handicaps.  Get into an accident that leaves you paralyzed from the neck down and see how you like being treated like crap.,.. 'cause right now, you appear to be paralyzed from the neck up.
 
2014-04-09 01:47:18 PM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy:

I would work your daughter's head like a speed bag if she attacked me. Sorry, just being honest.

So...

you are:

1) think that people with handicaps are a scam
2) would beat an handicapped person because , well.. internet tough guy.

My daughter's mental capacity is because she's handicapped, what's your excuse?

/ps... it took 2 nurses and a security guard to stop her during the "bad times" when she was 12, you wouldn't even know what would have hit you... she's that fast.
/also, you completely missed the point, which was why some people with handicaps cannot wait patiently in line.
/lastly, you'd touch my daughter, and it would be your last day.


It's, like, an ITG duel.

/cool
 
2014-04-09 01:48:22 PM  

imfallen_angel: HotWingConspiracy: /also, you completely missed the point, which was why some people with handicaps cannot wait patiently in line.

Don't put them in lines then.

Derp, isn't that the whole point of the article and this thread...


Yes, I know, they think they deserve special privileges to cut lines. Here's something to ponder - EVERY kid has difficulty standing in line.

wow... seriously, can you even tie your own shoes?

Of course, I'm not retarded.
 
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