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(Orlando Sentinel)   Problem: You don't want to wait in line at Disney. Solution: Say your kid is autistic and get to skip the line. Problem: Disney wizened up to your ploy. Solution: Sue them   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 187
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2014-04-09 09:15:34 AM
 Everyone is just a little autistic nowadays.
 
2014-04-09 09:16:13 AM
They get unlimited fast pass appointments instead of instant access.

Boo farking hoo.
 
2014-04-09 09:28:43 AM
Ahem....people.virginia.edu
 
2014-04-09 09:30:06 AM
Solution: The Cartman Model of Theme Park Operations.
 
2014-04-09 09:30:43 AM
So they might have to wait their turn just like everyone else, just not having to trudge through line?  The Horror!
 
2014-04-09 09:32:15 AM
If I'm remembering correctly, the My Disney Magic (or whatever it's called) is fully deployed so you can book fast passes well in advance of your visit. That seems like a reasonable accommodation for those with autistic children or other disabled family members.
 
2014-04-09 09:34:05 AM

blatz514: Ahem....[people.virginia.edu image 54x11]


FTFA according to a lawsuit filed April 3 in federal court in California
 
2014-04-09 09:34:26 AM
I really don't get what they are suing for, or maybe I am just missing that detail in the article.

Does the ADA say that companies are not allowed to make disabled guests wait like every other customer? Or are you not allowed to single out specific disabilities by saying autisic people must wait while people in wheel chairs get the pass?
 
2014-04-09 09:34:54 AM
Families with autistic children have sued  , alleging the company does not provide adequate access to theme park visitors with autism who have difficulty waiting in long lines for rides.

Hahahha, what a scam these people have going.
 
2014-04-09 09:35:43 AM
Wizened?  They got all shrivelled up in the bath, subby?
 
2014-04-09 09:37:49 AM
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-04-09 09:38:06 AM

Saners: I really don't get what they are suing for, or maybe I am just missing that detail in the article.

Does the ADA say that companies are not allowed to make disabled guests wait like every other customer? Or are you not allowed to single out specific disabilities by saying autisic people must wait while people in wheel chairs get the pass?


Pretty much, if you don't like waiting it seems the park should have to cowtow to your wishes.
 
2014-04-09 09:38:19 AM
Disney gave carte blanche to disabled people. Inconsiderate people found a way to use it for dishonest and profitable ways. Disney changed the policy so that disabled people are inconvenienced and dishonest people get no benefit.

Sounds like the way the world works. I hope the court case is thrown out and it cost the parents lots of money.
 
2014-04-09 09:38:22 AM

Enlightened Liberal: If I'm remembering correctly, the My Disney Magic (or whatever it's called) is fully deployed so you can book fast passes well in advance of your visit. That seems like a reasonable accommodation for those with autistic children or other disabled family members.


I don't know why, unless you're 6, the rides at disney or lame. Make the little farkers wait.
 
2014-04-09 09:38:37 AM
I don't have kids but I would imagine that every child has "difficultly waiting in long lines for rides".
 
2014-04-09 09:40:16 AM
Don't go to Disneyworld.  There.  Problem solved.
 
2014-04-09 09:40:43 AM

Bondith: Wizened?  They got all shrivelled up in the bath, subby?


+1, Bondith.
Subby needs to wisificate up.
 
2014-04-09 09:44:40 AM
Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about what you're saying.
 
2014-04-09 09:44:45 AM

zarker: blatz514: Ahem....[people.virginia.edu image 54x11]

FTFA according to a lawsuit filed April 3 in federal court in California


Yeah, I wasn't too sure either.  But subby's source was the Orlando Sentinel...so I ran with it.
 
msP
2014-04-09 09:45:15 AM
why the FARK would autism even be considered something that lets you skip the line? Your precious snowflake can't wait in line without "severe" emotional distress? Then DON'T TAKE HIM TO DISNEY.

This BS has gone on long enough.
 
2014-04-09 09:48:42 AM
My 4-year old is going through Autism screening right now and we went to Disneyworld last October so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...

These people are completely full of crap.

For starters, Disneyworld or any of the parks in Orlando are such sensory overload that I can't imagine bringing a highly Autistic child there! My daughter has fairly-mild autism, so it really is a blanket term referring to an intensity range of symptoms. It was completely manageable trip for us but it certainly had it's moments, so I can't imagine bringing a highly-autistic child.

Besides, the Fast Pass system they use means you don't really have to wait in (too long of) lines if you don't want to and you manage it correctly. In October we averaged 15-20 minutes on to get on a ride. Not bad.

Lastly, only the physically disabled should be allowed to skip to the front of the line, and even then I watched lazy fatasses on scooters abuse it like hell. (My personal trainer cousin pointed out a 350lb woman on a scooter wearing fancy Nike cross trainers, good thing she wore them!)

Anyway, whiny entitled victims want to skip the line anyway they can. Just wait your damn turn.
 
2014-04-09 09:51:43 AM
Bunny Deville:

I completely get it. Well maybe not, it sounds like you have it much worse, but I get it. A little bit at least.
 
2014-04-09 09:52:19 AM

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...

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2014-04-09 09:55:50 AM

Bunny Deville: I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about what you're saying.


I don't give a flying fark if your kid is autistic or not. My point is your time is not more valuable than mine. If you threaten me with your child's unacceptable behavior unless you get preferential treatment,  then no...you shouldn't be vacationing at Disney. maybe a wilderness resort. Did you ever think of that, you selfish coont?
 
2014-04-09 09:56:40 AM

wxboy: So they might have to wait their turn just like everyone else, just not having to trudge through line?  The Horror!


Try being in line with an autistic kid who's squirming & squealing up an atomic sh*tstorm because the long wait times are driving the kid literally nuts. You'd want the Aspie to be hurried up and put in ASAP.
 
msP
2014-04-09 09:57:34 AM

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


Alright, you make a valid point about how it would suck for your other child to not go on vacation because of her brother. So why not take them somewhere else? A relaxed beach vacation would be much cheaper and much less likely to upset your son (if, you are claiming, it is the waiting in line that has upset him and not just the entire idea of being on vacation). Why spend $6,000 for a trip that seems to me would be ruined by you not being able to skip the line? Your argument about your daughter only makes sense to an extent - as a child, I would have much rather preferred a different vacation or no vacation versus having to sit in a hotel for half the day while my brother calmed down and not really getting to experience the vacation anyway.

I just don't get why if over stimulation freaks him out, that you'd take him to a theme park in the first place. The whole point of a theme park is over stimulation - I doubt a shorter wait in line is really going to curb what he's feeling. And if a shorter wait in line is all it takes to calm him down completely - well I'm not even going to go there because I wouldn't want to be perceived as an insensitive dickweed.

It just seems to me that if you want your child accommodated by other people/giant corporations, then why aren't YOU being more accommodating to him by not putting him in situations that are obviously going to upset him?
 
2014-04-09 09:57:42 AM

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


1.  I wouldn't expect you to spank your autistic kid for being austistic
2.  I wouldn't expect you to never take your autistic kid on a vacation
3.  I would expect you to not take your kid who is sensitive to over-stimulation and waiting in lines to a place that is over flowing with stimulation and long lines

I think it sucks that Disney had to cancel this program, but people were abusing it to the detriment of everyone else.  I think they made the right decision and the people suing are probably the ones who are losing out on the "rent a austic kid" dollars they were getting until recently.
 
2014-04-09 09:59:57 AM

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


How about you...and this might be hard for you to digest...NOT GO OUT with the little shiat in tow?! I mean, have him stay with grandparents or something and tell him "it's a special day" or whatever works.
 
2014-04-09 10:06:06 AM
My favorite time to go to amusement parks was in October when the season was winding down. There were no lines for anything and a lot of times if you wanted to go on the same ride again you could just tell the people running it you wanted to go again. That all stopped when places started doing stuff all October for Halloween.
 
2014-04-09 10:06:43 AM

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


So you're either trolling or just a jackass, then.  For these sentences alone, the following is now felt about all of your opinions, no matter how legitimate you might feel they are:
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2014-04-09 10:07:32 AM

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


So you mean you're just like every other family?
 
2014-04-09 10:08:30 AM
Well it was a good policy to let autistic kids get head of the line privileges until jackasses kept abusing it. Don't be mad and sue Disney, be mad at the asshats who ruined it for everybody. I don't blame Disney for changing their policy. They did what they had to do.
 
2014-04-09 10:09:04 AM

Bunny Deville: I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


People abuse the system, system goes away. Sucks for you. Happens to everyone on the face of the planet. You or your kids are not special in this regard. Point your rage at the ones who abused the system and not the ones who are finally relieved that the system is being fixed with some common sense. You might want to talk to someone about your case of Tourettes as well.

Oh, during busy times able bodied people don't get many more rides than 2 at Disney on busy days so rage one with your manufactured rage.
 
2014-04-09 10:11:04 AM
Bunny Deville:
I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that.

When I was 7, we went to Disney for three days. Guess who had the flu the entire time? I got to go for a grand total of 2 hours, spending the rest of the time in the hotel. I got to go on 3 rides.

I'm not saying that it doesn't suck to be autistic, just that there are other reasons that you may not get to go on a lot of rides.
 
2014-04-09 10:11:33 AM
And what's with everybody being sue happy these days? I'm damn near afraid to glance at a woman because she could probably sue me for harassment. I tell you one thing: if someone ever successfully takes me to court and sues me, they won't live long enough to receive the first check i guarantee that.
 
2014-04-09 10:13:19 AM

Bunny Deville: I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.


So the fact that you are taking a kid who can't actually handle the place you are going is a good idea, and you demand accommodation for him when you won't do the same? Sounds more like you're torturing the poor kid so the rest of your family can go.  I enjoy barbecue competitions, I don't take my vegan cousin (who can't handle the sight of blood or smell of meat) to them...

Maybe have a vacation where he can enjoy it too is a better choice.
 
2014-04-09 10:13:40 AM

Dirty J1: Well it was a good policy to let autistic kids get head of the line privileges until jackasses kept abusing it. Don't be mad and sue Disney, be mad at the asshats who ruined it for everybody. I don't blame Disney for changing their policy. They did what they had to do.


It may not even be due to abuse, it could just be that Disney realized if the make special concessions for everyone who could possibly use them, that it was simply too many people, and it's simply not possible to accommodate everyone.
 
2014-04-09 10:15:17 AM
Just rent wheelchairs like everyone else.
 
2014-04-09 10:16:16 AM
Bunny Deville: My child suffers from sensory overload in daily life, so I decided to take him to a resort specifically designed to overload your senses to the point it makes a life time impression.

Then I call other people assholes because they can't stand my child's anguished cries.

Good thing you don't have a kid with bone spurs, you would probably book a hiking tour of the grand canyon then complain when the other guests don't offer to carry your child.
 
2014-04-09 10:17:34 AM

Bunny Deville: I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about what you're saying.


Yeah it's made me even less sympathetic.
 
2014-04-09 10:18:04 AM
Having just been to Disneyworld this past January with two not-autistic children, I can say that I can't imagine why anyone would even wantto take a kid there who has overstimulation issues.  I'm a (mostly) well-adjusted adult and it was about enough to push me over the edge at times.

I assume that Buttfark Deville is trolling.  I can think of about a hundred other vacations (even including a few themeparks) that would be more suited to a special needs child than DW.
 
2014-04-09 10:19:15 AM
I think it's unfair that I don't have enough money to go take my family to Disneyland for vacation. I should sue them because it makes me feel bad.
 
2014-04-09 10:23:12 AM
Theme parks are the absolute pinnacle of overstimulation.  I took my 2 and 4 year-old, well-behaved, non-autistic children there, and by lunch time I understood why some animals eat their young.  After a brief time out and a bit of Clark Griswold "We are hear to have F**ing FUN and we are going to have F**ing FUN", things calmed down and we actually had a great day.  Surprisingly - Mommy is a bit anti-theme park so I hadn't had high hopes for the day.  :)

Seriously, and I understand all of the arguments about the other sibling, and the family fun and all that stuff, but it seems like taking an autistic kid to a place like that borders on torture and abuse.  I'm not autistic either, I just really don't like crowds and lots of noise, and *I* am exhausted and wrung out after a day there.  It seems like in the interest of family vacation, families with autistic kids should go somewhere else where EVERYONE will enjoy themselves and be comfortable.  Why do you HAVE to go to Disney?  If the other siblings really want to go, plan a separate special trip for them, or make them wait.  I didn't go there until I was 13, with my aunt and cousin, since there was no way my parents were going there with all 3 of us.

How about Hot Springs, Arkansas, to dig for diamonds?  Or a Caribbean family all-inclusive?  Or Yellowstone?  Or hiking in Appalachia?  Why torture your autistic kid with It's a Small World, lines, and blown schedules?
 
2014-04-09 10:23:55 AM

cowsaregoodeating: Disney gave carte blanche to disabled people. Inconsiderate people found a way to use it for dishonest and profitable ways. Disney changed the policy so that disabled people are inconvenienced and dishonest people get no benefit.

Sounds like the way the world works. I hope the court case is thrown out and it cost the parents lots of money.


I was wheelchair bound from 2000-2004, but got to go to Disney World once, MAN did it piss me off seeing people take advantage.

Fat aint a disability, it's a choice.  Autistic... welp, I don't know how the entire world can accommodate those who just cannot function in the world.
 
2014-04-09 10:33:54 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Families with autistic children have sued  , alleging the company does not provide adequate access to theme park visitors with autism who have difficulty waiting in long lines for rides.

Hahahha, what a scam these people have going.


Seriously, read the lawsuit.  These people are out for front of the line access, and the world be damned.   The lawsuit includes several people who have not been to any Disney park since they implemented the DAS.   The adults are suing for emotional distress FOR THEMSELVES because they had to deal with their kids meltdowns. 

They had a FB page (McClain Special Needs) that spun out of control, deleting people's comments if they didn't agree with the "McClainer's" line about Disney sucking and hating autistic kids.   So, they made a new FB page (when the McClain person running the page got banned, from her own page, for being discriminatory) called My DAS experience.  The person running that realized that the people throwing temper tantrums were NOT helping their cause, so she told them to knock it off.   The woman (McClain) who started the whole thing got mad and went off to make another FB page, that is now private, and this is where the lawsuit people are coming from.

One lady said, on a FB comment, that "her kid has it too hard during the rest of her life and Disney is the only place that I don't have to deal with her problems".

/on several Disney boards
//those boards aren't happy about the lawsuit either
///what?  I like Mickey Mouse.  Don't judge me.
 
2014-04-09 10:40:00 AM

Enlightened Liberal: If I'm remembering correctly, the My Disney Magic (or whatever it's called) is fully deployed so you can book fast passes well in advance of your visit. That seems like a reasonable accommodation for those with autistic children or other disabled family members.


My Disney Experience

You can book 3 FP+ in advance of your visit, if you are staying on property.  If not, you can book your 3 spots on the day you visit that park.   You have a set time to enter the ride and if you miss that time, you are out of luck (i.e. book for noon-1pm, come back between those times; come back at 2pm, and you can't get in).

In addition, the DAS (Disability Access Service card) allows disabled people to "skip the wait in lines".   You get the card, you go to the ride (or in Disneyland, a kiosk), get a ride time (like a FP) and go do whatever you want until the time on your card.   These don't expire, so if you have a FP for Dumbo at noon, and you don't get there until 3pm, you can still go.   But you only get one wait at a time.  They figure the time by looking at the wait in the FP line, and subtracting 10 minute or so from the wait time.   

People had kept saying they didn't want "front of the line access" and just wanted some other way to wait for their turn.   Well, Disney gave them that, via DAS, and now they are throwing fits because they don't want to wait somewhere else; they want to just get on the ride and go.
 
2014-04-09 10:41:42 AM

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...


Unfortunately, THIS ^^.

And I understand.
 
2014-04-09 10:43:27 AM

Mugato: Just rent wheelchairs like everyone else.



doesn't work that way anymore.  Wheelchairs don't get priority passes.  They have to go wait in line like everyone else, except on most rides at Disneyland, they go in the exit, since the entrances of the rides aren't wheelchair accessible.  At WDW, they can go in the lines, with a few exceptions (like Toy STory Mania, they have to go into the ride in a different area due to stairs).
 
2014-04-09 10:50:34 AM

Bunny Deville: Okay, if you want your experience at Disney spoiled by my autistic kid who is going to whine and cry the entire time he is in line- he just pulled this crap when we went on vacation a couple of weeks ago, there's no way to stop him, spanking is illegal and wouldn't work anyway, and he gets LOUD and occasionally thrashes around- if that's what you WANT in line with you, then by all means, keep being snarky.

"Then why don't you just discipline him?" My god, do you think we don't? But on a $6,000 vacation, I'm not going to shut him up in the hotel room the entire time because he can't handle the over-stimulation and freaks out while having to wait in a long, loud line.

"Why not keep him home?" Sure, let me just tell my 7 year old that he can't go on vacation with the rest of the family. or, better yet, tell his sister that we can't go because of her brother. I'm sure that'll work out well.

I used the disability pass a year and a half ago when we went to Disney. Without it, for all of the money we spent, we couldn't have done more than two rides a day, if that. We had to take two breaks a day for the kids to go back to the hotel and decompress. My son flipped right the fark out on the Haunted Mansion ride and we ended up being done with the park for that day. Oh my god. All of you assholes. All of you self-righteous internet assholes who think you farking know everything. YOU take this kid to Disney and see how farking well you fare. You have NO idea what my family goes through. You have NO need to be assholes to us. But you will. There will be three replies to this post telling me that my kid isn't autistic or that there is no such thing as autism. There will be five replies telling me that I'm a horrible parent. There will be 24 replies telling me how I should parent my autistic son. I will reply to none of them, because I've stopped engaging in discussion with assholes. I won't even be back here. I'll just hope that this post makes one of you dickweeds think about ...



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Shut up, Ass-Burger...
 
2014-04-09 10:57:58 AM
I don't care if they are legitimately autistic. Wait in line like everyone else.
 
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