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(Adweek)   Privacy be damned, meet the NY ad agency where all employees sit at one 4,400 square foot desk   (adweek.com) divider line 136
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2014-04-08 05:58:13 PM  
Ok, that's pretty cool.

Won't go green because you submitted at the wrong time of day, but pretty cool.
 
2014-04-08 06:16:03 PM  

meyerkev: Ok, that's pretty cool.



No it's not. You know what's cool?...having a door on my private office.
 
2014-04-08 06:19:44 PM  
Very cool and it has a lot more privacy than the "open space" design that we just did with the agency I work for.

Luckily my dept has its own rooms and is off and buried compared to about 90% of the agency.

/almost all the higher ups are sitting right with everyone else. Sucks
 
2014-04-08 06:38:26 PM  
Daaaaang...  I want that for my Children's Services Department's office area.  That, and a Staff MakerSpace.
 
2014-04-08 07:08:17 PM  
I spy at least a few employees sitting under the desk, not at it.
 
2014-04-08 07:13:14 PM  
img.fark.net

Okay I want my desk next to the booze.
 
2014-04-08 07:14:52 PM  
If I was just finishing college I would be stoked to work someplace like that, but I'm happy with my office and my office door. Thanks.
 
2014-04-08 08:00:42 PM  
I like the idea and it's pretty but all I see are a million more ways to get interrupted while I am actually trying to work.
 
2014-04-08 08:09:44 PM  
I insist on an open office.  You can keep your screen to yourself, but your desk has no front, and I can't abide clutter.

These are awesome by the way.
 
2014-04-08 08:12:16 PM  
Bad move. Account people shouldn't watch creatives at work. It only fosters jealously.
 
2014-04-08 08:20:25 PM  

FlashHarry: Bad move. Account people shouldn't watch creatives at work. It only fosters jealously.


Do you really think they're smart enough and old enough to notice?

The young account kids are really just there to party.
 
2014-04-08 08:34:14 PM  

lostcat: If I was just finishing college I would be stoked to work someplace like that, but I'm happy with my office and my office door. Thanks.


www.samladner.com
And your office walls?
 
2014-04-08 08:37:06 PM  
This space age yet totally reclaimed collecta-platform will really facilitate some great synergy!

- Jumps out of window
 
2014-04-08 08:39:57 PM  
I think it looks neat, but I would rather not work there.

I did like how the desk was "laser cut using vintage automotive robots."
 
2014-04-08 08:49:23 PM  

FlashHarry: Bad move. Account people shouldn't watch creatives at work. It only fosters jealously.


The optimum number of people in any serious development team is four.
 
2014-04-08 09:02:33 PM  
Is this at Entertainment 720?
 
2014-04-08 09:02:45 PM  
If anyone knows the contractor they hired to build that, do me a favor and buy them a beer. Can't imagine that was a very fun job.
 
2014-04-08 09:04:18 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: meyerkev: Ok, that's pretty cool.



No it's not. You know what's cool?...having a door on my private office.


THIS. Leave me alone, I have work to do. Go find an extravert if you want to gab about the adorable thing your cat did.
 
2014-04-08 09:04:47 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: meyerkev: Ok, that's pretty cool.



No it's not. You know what's cool?...having a door on my private office.


How do they masturbate? Is there a tablecloth you can hide under?
 
2014-04-08 09:05:19 PM  
If you're in marketing, just kill youself.
 
2014-04-08 09:05:53 PM  
Hipster level 9000
 
2014-04-08 09:06:06 PM  
I personally have no desire to work in a "shared, organic workspace." I need two monitors and a hands-free headset and I am good to go.
 
2014-04-08 09:07:06 PM  
I really don't think it deserves the "Stupid" tag. It might not work, but I like people trying different things like this, and it looks kind of interesting.
 
2014-04-08 09:09:22 PM  
How are you supposed to take your 15 minute afternoon nap in a place like that?
 
2014-04-08 09:10:04 PM  
Where does the guy with Aspergers go after he's done narrating this video?
 
2014-04-08 09:13:22 PM  
Looks like a fire code violation. No escape routes except through those narrow archways.

I wouldn't want to work there. It's a death trap.
 
2014-04-08 09:13:25 PM  
I used to have a cubicle.  Now I have a group cubicle of 6 of us at my new job.  I hate it.  You can't concentrate when someone is on the phone because that is all you hear.  And I'm tired of having to listen to people eat.  Most of the time I have to just keep my earbuds in all day long, sometimes without anything playing.  I don't know what retards think this group setting helps with getting work done.  It's probably all BS to justify having a cramped space and just cram everyone into it because who cares, if they don't like it, they can find a new job.
 
2014-04-08 09:14:49 PM  
EEeeeeewwwww!!

The Average Desk Harbors 400 Times More Bacteria Than Average Toilet Seat

Thank goodness there is healthcare now.
 
2014-04-08 09:15:25 PM  

Ghastly: lostcat: If I was just finishing college I would be stoked to work someplace like that, but I'm happy with my office and my office door. Thanks.


And your office walls?


With his Buckeye News Hawk Awards.

/Bailey
 
2014-04-08 09:15:47 PM  

oukewldave: I used to have a cubicle.  Now I have a group cubicle of 6 of us at my new job.  I hate it.  You can't concentrate when someone is on the phone because that is all you hear.  And I'm tired of having to listen to people eat.  Most of the time I have to just keep my earbuds in all day long, sometimes without anything playing.  I don't know what retards think this group setting helps with getting work done.  It's probably all BS to justify having a cramped space and just cram everyone into it because who cares, if they don't like it, they can find a new job.


Just be glad you're not hot-desking.  You wanna talk massive office suckage.
 
2014-04-08 09:17:09 PM  
www.learnnc.org
 
2014-04-08 09:17:13 PM  
I get to work from home. Hang out with my pup, have the TV on with a movie or something... Not for everyone though. An old gig I had helped hone the self-discipline necessary to ensure shiat gets done with so many distractions.
 
2014-04-08 09:18:01 PM  
Barbarians? I would've guessed Hobbitses.

www.kyivpost.com
 
2014-04-08 09:18:55 PM  
I share an office.  It is great having people hearing the other people in my office over my headset.  Apparently the microphone was developed by the NSA and can pick up an ant farting outside.

The bar would be handy.
 
2014-04-08 09:20:08 PM  

lenfromak: If you're in marketing, just kill youself.


That's good. I love it. That Clio is as good as yours.
 
2014-04-08 09:20:16 PM  

maxandgrinch: EEeeeeewwwww!!

The Average Desk Harbors 400 Times More Bacteria Than Average Toilet Seat

Thank goodness there is healthcare now.



Oh, poo. Instead of a giant desk, those vintage automotive robots could have made a giant toilet seat. The company would quickly become #2 in advertising, and flush with success.

Okay, I'll stop now.
 
2014-04-08 09:21:06 PM  
She sounds hideous
 
2014-04-08 09:24:09 PM  
No thanks. I like having my own office. Sometimes I just need to close the door and get shiat done.
 
2014-04-08 09:24:40 PM  
It's like some people think you have a right to privacy at work written in the Constitution.
 
2014-04-08 09:25:31 PM  

trappedspirit: She sounds hideous


Well, she's a guy, so...
 
2014-04-08 09:26:50 PM  
That guy has a 4,400 square foot desk before it was cool.
 
2014-04-08 09:27:16 PM  
Another one here for office doors.  Our office has glass half-walls, with blinds.  So we can have our doors open and the blinds up and it's all openy when we need to collaborate.  Then when we need to concentrate, or skype with germany or china, we can close up and have the world fark off.

Plus I have an adjustable height desk.  Afternoons are way more productive since I don't fade out sitting down anymore.
 
2014-04-08 09:27:59 PM  
That guy in the video is a class 2 douche bag. Nobody cares if you used old automobile robots to cut your desk. Or that you poured resin on the desks or had it flat shipped.

He would be one annoying SOB to hang out with.

"This beer I am drinking - the glass was frosted in an old lead lined fridigaire I bought at a LA antique shop. The hops were grown in an organic, indoor, garden on a rooftop in the south of France and brewed in a small metal vat made from melted down Japanese swords by a druidic metal smith at a castle in Ireland."

Yeah, screw you.
 
2014-04-08 09:29:29 PM  
It's an ad agency. Nobody there actually works. They could all telecommute for the "updates".
 
2014-04-08 09:30:35 PM  
You people have offices?   I do work.  Threw a truck today.  Only 45 feet though.. a bit small.  Hates little boxes.  fark can't you consolidate for Christs sake? Do you have any idea how heavy boxes of motor oil get after doing that stuff for 3 hours?  Yeah my job sucks but I could beat you up and take your woman.
 
2014-04-08 09:31:11 PM  
fark that! Even call centers have a bit more privacy. But think of all the new buzzwords you'll learn! Where will their bi-weekly corporate meetings be held? At least there's booze. Skateboards and flame throwers for everyone.
 
2014-04-08 09:35:52 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: I share an office.  It is great having people hearing the other people in my office over my headset.  Apparently the microphone was developed by the NSA and can pick up an ant farting outside.


This. The reason we're in there is because my group needs to collaborate closely and the rest of the team doesn't. The problem is that I don't do the same thing as them - I'm their effing manager and don't have to be in the short-cycle collaboration. Inevitably when I'm on a call I end up wandering the cube farm to get away from the noise and disturbing everybody else.

And then GOD FORBID I have to do my managerial duties and actually talk about my underlings to my bosses (or any other sensitive matter). That's a massive effing ordeal involving either booking a conference room or gambling and trying to grab the office-that-used-to-belong-to-that-guy-who-they-gave-an-early-retireme nt-package-of-3-years-salary-six-months-before-he-was-going-to-retire- anyway-and-nobody-reassigned-the-office-because-he-left-all-his-chotch kies-and-stuff-in-it-so-it-looks-occupied. Unfortunately my other manager colleagues also know about that office and use it for the same purposes.


Oh, and the office doesn't have sufficient A/C ducting to keep up with 6 people's body heat - so we have to keep the door open, therefore disturbing everyone in the nearby cubes.
 
Oak
2014-04-08 09:39:51 PM  
Gimmicks always turn out so great, don't they?
 
2014-04-08 09:40:19 PM  
No one at my company has an office, not even the CEO.  You get used to it.
 
2014-04-08 09:41:35 PM  
Did the vintage automotive robots laser cut his hair?
 
2014-04-08 09:42:58 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I get to work from home. Hang out with my pup, have the TV on with a movie or something... Not for everyone though. An old gig I had helped hone the self-discipline necessary to ensure shiat gets done with so many distractions.


I can't do it, I work half and half. I've found at home I'm pretty much entirely reactionary, while in the office I can actually get stuff done. I tend to go in the office pretty early and go home about one and take calls, etc from there. All grunt work must get done in the office or it won't get done, no discipline.
 
2014-04-08 09:43:24 PM  
Somewhat makes me think of the stories the greybeards tell me of doing drafting in the 70s.  I know of one work area that was larger than a football field.  No walls, just a sea of 10 x 4 ft boards.  They did some huge layouts way back when.
 
2014-04-08 09:44:19 PM  
Do they use it as a skate park after hours?
 
2014-04-08 09:44:52 PM  
I seriously doubt that was cheaper than buying individual desks and cubicles for everyone. I have no clue how much pouring that resin over the entire surface would cost, but it had to be ridiculously expensive. Also, all that plywood, that wasn't your standard construction grade stuff, that was cabinet grade finished smooth on both sides and runs about $85 for a 4x8 sheet, not to mention that the amount of waste cutting it into those arches would have been enormous.

It looks cool as hell, I'll give you that, but there is no farking way in hell that was cheaper than buying everyone their own desk.
 
2014-04-08 09:46:57 PM  
When we need to collaborate at work, we yell at each other from our offices or use IM, sometimes email. Ta-da!
 
2014-04-08 09:47:49 PM  
"lots of little areas where people can have sort of their own personal space"

This phrase, personal space, I do not believe that it means what you think that it means.
 
2014-04-08 09:49:40 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: I share an office.  It is great having people hearing the other people in my office over my headset.  Apparently the microphone was developed by the NSA and can pick up an ant farting outside.

The bar would be handy.


The other day, some people were having a conference call where I work, and some of them were in different offices/cubes, but well within earshot, so I would hear someone say something, and then it would come over the speaker a quarter second later...echo...echo...very disorienting.
 
2014-04-08 09:53:16 PM  
The important thing is it got them some eyeballs from Adweek and a few people probably checked out their Vimeo stuff. Mission accomplished.
 
2014-04-08 09:55:39 PM  
Those workers are packed closer together than your regular cubical farm.  They're sitting asses to elbows at that table.

Try having a phone conversation while the person directly to your left is collaborating with one or two other coworkers and the person on your right is having their own phone conversation.
 
2014-04-08 09:55:44 PM  

CruJones: I can't do it, I work half and half. I've found at home I'm pretty much entirely reactionary, while in the office I can actually get stuff done. I tend to go in the office pretty early and go home about one and take calls, etc from there. All grunt work must get done in the office or it won't get done, no discipline.


I've found a fine balance. The only "problem" is that there have been quite a few times where I find myself working until 10 or 11pm at night. Balances out with the days where real work isn't scheduled to start till noon. Sometimes though, when working alone on a project, I find that I do better work at night.

Other problem is, you'll NEED to find some kind of hobby outside your house. Thankfully, I work at a bar two nights a week, if only to get me out (and enjoy the free drinks and take-home cash).
 
2014-04-08 09:59:06 PM  

buntz: Where does the guy with Aspergers go after he's done narrating this video?


He's banging the chick.
 
2014-04-08 10:02:20 PM  
Douchebag hipsters sauntering about the office trying to show you "how cool they are".
Worked with many of these ad agency types and they think their shiat doesn't stink and that they're "brilliant".
Not enough room for their egos and oxygen, trust me.

Would not want to work without some privacy and cube farms suck.
 
2014-04-08 10:04:15 PM  
Do they all drink from Klein bottles?
 
2014-04-08 10:05:40 PM  

shlabotnik: Did the vintage automotive robots laser cut his hair?


OK. You owe me a keyboard for that one. Almost spit on the screen.
 
2014-04-08 10:06:38 PM  

ReapTheChaos: I seriously doubt that was cheaper than buying individual desks and cubicles for everyone. I have no clue how much pouring that resin over the entire surface would cost, but it had to be ridiculously expensive. Also, all that plywood, that wasn't your standard construction grade stuff, that was cabinet grade finished smooth on both sides and runs about $85 for a 4x8 sheet, not to mention that the amount of waste cutting it into those arches would have been enormous.

It looks cool as hell, I'll give you that, but there is no farking way in hell that was cheaper than buying everyone their own desk.


Yeah, but imagine the kind of cubicles a place like that would buy.
 
2014-04-08 10:08:34 PM  

Dellirium: cube farms suck.


A cubicle, by law, is an office without a roof.
 
2014-04-08 10:08:58 PM  
I work in a remodeled industrial building that was built in 1930 or so.  It has those sawtooth roofs with glass on the north facing slopes.  I share a pretty roomy office up a flight and a half of stairs from the rest of the commotion and hub-bub, just inderneath those north facing skylights.  There is the odd ductwork going off at odd angles, but the natural light is something that would be awesome if I was an artist.  It's rare when all four people are in the office; this week I have the entire thing to myself.  It's the best possible environment for a software developer, easily the best office I've ever had.

/ I'll burn down the building if they try to take it away from me.
// Just kidding, it's a brick building.
 
2014-04-08 10:09:36 PM  
Wait until they realize what a half-assed idea this was and have it cut apart section by section...
Cheap plywood skateboard jumps!
 
2014-04-08 10:10:15 PM  
Meh.

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2014-04-08 10:12:33 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Meh.

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What could be better for an office environment than a highly sound reflective wall filled with moving water near electronic devices!
 
2014-04-08 10:14:58 PM  
blog.mugnai.netdna-cdn.com
Peaceful
 
2014-04-08 10:18:42 PM  
There is a guy that when faced with the fact that not one damn person is fooled at they are "thirty-sixish" and everyone knows they are long past the high side of forty, will either withdraw into a bitter weathered cocoon or will go full Hunter S. Thompson and chew on a gun barrel.

/listen you old fraud, you hear that sound? That is the yawning abyss that is irrelevance. It's waiting for you,  it only calls those who never own who they are.  Age captures us all but irrelevance calls you.
 
2014-04-08 10:18:58 PM  
Maybe I'm just jaded, but this video seems fake-ish.

The too-serious nature of the guy's goofy comments ("vintage automotive robots", "shipped by flat pack")...
The blank look on the woman's face (as if she's not sure where to focus her eyes)...
The almost-too-casual touching of the surface at various points...
The carefully placed liquor bottles and other props...
The clearly choreographed staff wandering around and under the desk at various points for no particular reason...
The camera panning around unnecessarily in various directions...

It all seems like a lead up to revealing that this is just a viral video the agency made, showing off some of their CGI skills.

On the other hand, I've been in many ad agency offices over the years and this is exactly the sort of stupid, waste of client money, impractical, style-over-substance stuff that I could picture them doing in real life.
 
2014-04-08 10:20:45 PM  

Ghastly: Okay I want my desk next to the booze.


---
And I want my desk next to yours because you notice things before the herd

/but I hate white desks when they reflect too much light
 
2014-04-08 10:22:43 PM  

CruJones: No one at my company has an office, not even the CEO.  You get used to it.



Sounds like your CEO needs to step up his game.  My CEO has an office and a Boeing Business Jet.
 
2014-04-08 10:23:23 PM  
My previous comment was sexist.  Your CEO needs to step up his/her game.
 
2014-04-08 10:25:30 PM  
How do you get 4400 people at one desk?
 
2014-04-08 10:25:59 PM  

Dellirium: [blog.mugnai.netdna-cdn.com image 420x330]
Peaceful


That thing in the topic? Couldn't possibly give any less farks.

This? Jelly. Very jelly.
 
2014-04-08 10:32:38 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: oukewldave: I used to have a cubicle.  Now I have a group cubicle of 6 of us at my new job.  I hate it.  You can't concentrate when someone is on the phone because that is all you hear.  And I'm tired of having to listen to people eat.  Most of the time I have to just keep my earbuds in all day long, sometimes without anything playing.  I don't know what retards think this group setting helps with getting work done.  It's probably all BS to justify having a cramped space and just cram everyone into it because who cares, if they don't like it, they can find a new job.

Just be glad you're not hot-desking.  You wanna talk massive office suckage.


Be glad you're not hot carling like my office is doing now.
 
2014-04-08 10:36:26 PM  
i install cubicles, so i am getting a kick out of this

i get out of there before you go in there to live there for the rest of your life
 
2014-04-08 10:40:54 PM  
It's not "one 4400 square foot desk" if most of the surface area is 12 feet in the air curving around at unusable angles. Maybe 1000 square feet, and only a fraction of the workstations are actually being used. Meaning they don't have enough employees to justify the size of that office. Meaning, in turn, that they have zero source of revenue.
 
2014-04-08 10:47:35 PM  

meyerkev: Won't go green because you submitted at the wrong time of day, but pretty cool.


They greened it just to prove you wrong. Now you look almost as out-of-the-loop as us Liters.
 
2014-04-08 10:51:09 PM  
They did a tv show about this. It was called 4400.
 
2014-04-08 10:51:36 PM  
my company recently went to open plan, flexible seating, saying it was to create opportunities for teams to collaborate on-the-fly, working with whoever they needed to day-to-day - and that the savings on floor space (about 60% of what we had) was just a fortunate bonus.

but of course there are rules like no desk squatting over days at a time and no saving desks for other people, so instead of people collaborating on an as-needed basis, there's a free-for-all to grab seats based on how early you start - except of course executives who decide that squatting is ok for them when they feel like it.

i take great delight in being one of the earliest starters (I always was, so it's not going out of my way), and then calling out their rule-breaking in as loud a voice as I can.

the greatest problem, though, is the noise levels - there's no privacy and the limited meeting rooms are never available when you need them. everyone gets shiatty at everyone else because their time to socialise doesn't happen to coincide with someone elses, so, again, I take great delight in point out their hypocrisies to each other - not to mention being unashamedly loud on my own phone calls.

this stupidity continues because we have accountants running businesses, and if it doesn't exist on their spreadsheets then it's not real. time wastage from seating moves every day, inefficiencies from constant distractions, irritations from no escape from co-workers - none of it is real.

capitalist extremism taken to its logical conclusion. dumb farking race, humans are.
 
2014-04-08 10:52:00 PM  
Don't think it would work for any type of job that required deep thought or concentration, or with employees that tend toward introversion,  but these are ad people and they do tend towards sociable and vapid, so perhaps it is an ideal setup for them
 
2014-04-08 10:54:42 PM  
NOPE
cdn.ebaumsworld.com

F*CK DAT SHIAT!
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-08 10:56:09 PM  

gweilo8888: meyerkev: Won't go green because you submitted at the wrong time of day, but pretty cool.

They greened it just to prove you wrong. Now you look almost as out-of-the-loop as us Liters.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-08 11:00:10 PM  
I'm so glad I don't work in an office anymore. I may have to drive around half the state in my careers but at least I am not crammed into a small space with other people... I work alone, and I love it. I have no boss hanging around looking over my shoulder or standing at the doorway to my cubicle saying "I'm going to need you to work on Saturday, mkay?"  There are no office politics, no office gossips, no workplace drama from those people who make working in offices and retail a royal pain in the ass. I have no set schedule; I work when I wish, stop working when I wish, and if I decide I don't feel like working on any particular day, I roll over in bed and don't go to work that day just as simple as that; I can always reschedule for another day. Part of my job is done at home, in my PJs, with the stereo on and a snack on my desk. Sometimes I even do some of my work with Mrs. Nightbird in my arms.


johndalek: i install cubicles, so i am getting a kick out of this

i get out of there before you go in there to live there for the rest of your life


Ah, so  you're the broker of lost dreams! Nice to meet you!
 
2014-04-08 11:00:49 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Meh.

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They build a huge aquarium... and use Galant desks from IKEA?
 
2014-04-08 11:03:52 PM  
I've worked as a contract for 25+ years, so I'm used to crap, improvised workspaces. There have been times I've been allocated 1 (1) printer stand to balance a laptop on, and once I got a plywood table in a trailer in a field literally a stone's throw from a decomissioned nuclear reactor. Those I didn't mind. The one in the link was cool in a lot of ways, I liked the arches, although I can say I've worked better places for IT geeks.

Worst place I ever saw was when I went to Mawah NJ for a meeting doing work for a very large, very brown package handling company.

Imagine taking a Wal Mart, stripping out the shelves, keeping the sodium lights, and then filling a stadium-sized space with half-cubicles that extend six inches above the desktop. Just to cheer the harshly lit echoing place up a bit, add a 1970's Harvest Gold and Avocado Green wave sort of thing on one wall.

All your developers are sitting across from someone who's every fart, sneeze, cough and sniffle will become a distraction and a reason to hate them more. Seriously... It was like looking down a line and seeing matched pairs of future psychotically obsessed archenemies.

"Holy shiat, I have found developer hell!" Remarkably enough, understanding that prepared me fairly well for the things I heard in the meeting I was there for.
 
2014-04-08 11:07:01 PM  
Someone is going to get anal.
 
2014-04-08 11:12:02 PM  

maxheck: I've worked as a contract for 25+ years, so I'm used to crap, improvised workspaces. There have been times I've been allocated 1 (1) printer stand to balance a laptop on, and once I got a plywood table in a trailer in a field literally a stone's throw from a decomissioned nuclear reactor. Those I didn't mind. The one in the link was cool in a lot of ways, I liked the arches, although I can say I've worked better places for IT geeks.

Worst place I ever saw was when I went to Mawah NJ for a meeting doing work for a very large, very brown package handling company.

Imagine taking a Wal Mart, stripping out the shelves, keeping the sodium lights, and then filling a stadium-sized space with half-cubicles that extend six inches above the desktop. Just to cheer the harshly lit echoing place up a bit, add a 1970's Harvest Gold and Avocado Green wave sort of thing on one wall.

All your developers are sitting across from someone who's every fart, sneeze, cough and sniffle will become a distraction and a reason to hate them more. Seriously... It was like looking down a line and seeing matched pairs of future psychotically obsessed archenemies.

"Holy shiat, I have found developer hell!" Remarkably enough, understanding that prepared me fairly well for the things I heard in the meeting I was there for.



Yeah, you see? I'd probably snap and go postal in a workplace like that. It's best for everyone that I work solo.
 
2014-04-08 11:23:18 PM  
Wait till people start farting.
 
2014-04-08 11:33:58 PM  
Prithee, what dost happeneth upon this thread?

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2014-04-08 11:39:13 PM  
Nix Nightbird:

maxheck: I've worked as a contract for 25+ years, so I'm used to crap, improvised workspaces. There have been times I've been allocated 1 (1) printer stand to balance a laptop on, and once I got a plywood table in a trailer in a field literally a stone's throw from a decomissioned nuclear reactor. Those I didn't mind. The one in the link was cool in a lot of ways, I liked the arches, although I can say I've worked better places for IT geeks.

Worst place I ever saw was when I went to Mawah NJ for a meeting doing work for a very large, very brown package handling company.

Imagine taking a Wal Mart, stripping out the shelves, keeping the sodium lights, and then filling a stadium-sized space with half-cubicles that extend six inches above the desktop. Just to cheer the harshly lit echoing place up a bit, add a 1970's Harvest Gold and Avocado Green wave sort of thing on one wall.

All your developers are sitting across from someone who's every fart, sneeze, cough and sniffle will become a distraction and a reason to hate them more. Seriously... It was like looking down a line and seeing matched pairs of future psychotically obsessed archenemies.

"Holy shiat, I have found developer hell!" Remarkably enough, understanding that prepared me fairly well for the things I heard in the meeting I was there for.


Yeah, you see? I'd probably snap and go postal in a workplace like that. It's best for everyone that I work solo.


Well, it *IS* possible to get loopy in the other direction... There have been development contracts where I literally did not have to speak to anyone voice-wise for a month at a time other than my cat, and she wasn't very talkative... Add self-checkouts at the grocery and card-swipers at the gas station, and I didn't actually speak to anyone for long periods. When family or the boss actually *did* want to talk to me on the phone, you could hear the rusty gears grinding in my head... "blugh bluh wha?" It really did take a moment to engage.
 
2014-04-08 11:42:26 PM  

Bacontastesgood: Afternoons are way more productive since I don't fade out sitting down anymore.


Interesting.  I have a job where I could sort of do this and I hate that dragged down feeling after lunch.

RoxtarRyan: Thankfully, I work at a bar two nights a week, if only to get me out (and enjoy the free drinks and take-home cash).


Also interesting.  Work at a bar and get free drinks and cash.  Wait, what?  WTF do you do for a living?  Stripper?
 
2014-04-08 11:53:37 PM  
I work from home, 2000 miles away from home office.  It's *almost* far enough away from my cow-orkers.
 
2014-04-08 11:54:50 PM  

mrlewish: You people have offices?   I do work.  Threw a truck today.  Only 45 feet though.. a bit small.  Hates little boxes.  fark can't you consolidate for Christs sake? Do you have any idea how heavy boxes of motor oil get after doing that stuff for 3 hours?  Yeah my job sucks but I could beat you up and take your woman.


You're funny.

/she'd kick your arse.
 
2014-04-09 12:03:13 AM  
it's called a table
 
2014-04-09 12:03:37 AM  
Been working from home for about 5 or 6 years now.

The commute is a PITA, but the perks are worth it.
 
2014-04-09 12:09:04 AM  
Seems they laid off a bunch of people before the move in. But they got an article in ad week!
 
2014-04-09 12:47:42 AM  

mrlewish: You people have offices?   I do work.  Threw a truck today.  Only 45 feet though.. a bit small.  Hates little boxes.  fark can't you consolidate for Christs sake? Do you have any idea how heavy boxes of motor oil get after doing that stuff for 3 hours?  Yeah my job sucks but I could beat you up and take your woman.


Are you having a stroke?
 
2014-04-09 12:54:53 AM  
So? Am I supposed to beat my stupid as fark clients in the face in front of everybody or what? Do they offer private beating rooms? What about sexual harassment rooms? I am not liking this concept.
 
2014-04-09 01:09:14 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I insist on an open office.  You can keep your screen to yourself, but your desk has no front, and I can't abide clutter.

These are awesome by the way.


Empty desktop, empty mind.
 
2014-04-09 01:13:43 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I can't abide clutter.


jewelhistory.com

endzog.files.wordpress.com

Just sayin'.
 
2014-04-09 01:15:17 AM  

Perducci: Maybe I'm just jaded, but this video seems fake-ish.

The too-serious nature of the guy's goofy comments ("vintage automotive robots", "shipped by flat pack")...
The blank look on the woman's face (as if she's not sure where to focus her eyes)...
The almost-too-casual touching of the surface at various points...
The carefully placed liquor bottles and other props...
The clearly choreographed staff wandering around and under the desk at various points for no particular reason...
The camera panning around unnecessarily in various directions...

It all seems like a lead up to revealing that this is just a viral video the agency made, showing off some of their CGI skills.

On the other hand, I've been in many ad agency offices over the years and this is exactly the sort of stupid, waste of client money, impractical, style-over-substance stuff that I could picture them doing in real life.


Didn't sell me in 2:16, how are you going to sell customers in 0:30?
 
2014-04-09 01:59:30 AM  

Your Hind Brain: fark that! Even call centers have a bit more privacy. But think of all the new buzzwords you'll learn! Where will their bi-weekly corporate meetings be held? At least there's booze. Skateboards and flame throwers for everyone.


True, but only because call centers expect everyone to be talking on the phone all the time.
 
2014-04-09 02:00:47 AM  

untaken_name: Marcus Aurelius: I can't abide clutter.

[jewelhistory.com image 466x222]

[endzog.files.wordpress.com image 620x456]

Just sayin'.


Wow.  That escalated quickly.
 
2014-04-09 02:02:44 AM  

Ghastly: [img.fark.net image 653x367]

Okay I want my desk next to the booze.


every advertising agency I have worked at has had a full bar. it may not be in plain sight but it has a bar.
 
2014-04-09 02:09:16 AM  

mrlewish: You people have offices?   I do work.  Threw a truck today.  Only 45 feet though.. a bit small.  Hates little boxes.  fark can't you consolidate for Christs sake? Do you have any idea how heavy boxes of motor oil get after doing that stuff for 3 hours?  Yeah my job sucks but I could beat you up and take your woman.


Gee, I didn't know the "I pick things up and put them down" guy from that one commercial had a fark account.

Oh, and you know what's even less impressive to women than having a job that a gorilla could do? Treating us as objects, especially as objects you can claim by violence. Go back to your cave, Neanderthal.
 
2014-04-09 02:22:43 AM  
and the whole place smells like feet and yeast infection.
 
2014-04-09 04:14:49 AM  
the open  design concept for classrooms was proven a disastorous attempt from rhe 1980s. this is even dumberer.
 
2014-04-09 04:35:26 AM  
I interviewed at a place with an open floor plan.  Everybody had an unobscured view to everyone else.  It creeped me out soo much I flubbed my interview intentionally.  Plus, they had a strict no smoking on company grounds policy.

/I'd need a smoke after listening to Debra explaining how her kid almost shot a goal for fifteen minutes.
 
2014-04-09 04:48:39 AM  

Mitch Mitchell: I interviewed at a place with an open floor plan.  Everybody had an unobscured view to everyone else.  It creeped me out soo much I flubbed my interview intentionally.  Plus, they had a strict no smoking on company grounds policy.

/I'd need a smoke after listening to Debra explaining how her kid almost shot a goal for fifteen minutes.


I want to jam an ice pick in my ear after a full day of hearing personal phone calls like that. The women in the cube row next to me have these calls throughout the day, I'm not sure when they actually work. Our cube walls are high, so I rarely see them, but I know everything going on in their lives.

Kind of bizarre really. It's like they think once they walk into their cube it's a private, sound proof office.
 
2014-04-09 05:33:22 AM  

davidphogan: untaken_name: Marcus Aurelius: I can't abide clutter.

[jewelhistory.com image 466x222]

[endzog.files.wordpress.com image 620x456]

Just sayin'.

Wow.  That escalated quickly.


Just a simple study in contrast, that's all.
 
2014-04-09 05:36:35 AM  

ornithopter: mrlewish: You people have offices?   I do work.  Threw a truck today.  Only 45 feet though.. a bit small.  Hates little boxes.  fark can't you consolidate for Christs sake? Do you have any idea how heavy boxes of motor oil get after doing that stuff for 3 hours?  Yeah my job sucks but I could beat you up and take your woman.

Gee, I didn't know the "I pick things up and put them down" guy from that one commercial had a fark account.

Oh, and you know what's even less impressive to women than having a job that a gorilla could do? Treating us as objects, especially as objects you can claim by violence. Go back to your cave, Neanderthal.


You should threaten to not sleep with him. That will be about as effective a tactic as shaming on a guy who throws boxes for a living.
 
2014-04-09 05:43:32 AM  

chance4510: That guy in the video is a class 2 douche bag. Nobody cares if you used old automobile robots to cut your desk. Or that you poured resin on the desks or had it flat shipped.

He would be one annoying SOB to hang out with.

"This beer I am drinking - the glass was frosted in an old lead lined fridigaire I bought at a LA antique shop. The hops were grown in an organic, indoor, garden on a rooftop in the south of France and brewed in a small metal vat made from melted down Japanese swords by a druidic metal smith at a castle in Ireland."

Yeah, screw you.


If there is a hell, and I wind up there, it will be this place, that desk, and that guy walking me around and commenting on every hip detail.

So today and foreverafter I will love and serve my fellow man as best I can.

Good god.
 
2014-04-09 05:48:28 AM  
My last job abruptly changed to an open office plan and "huddle rooms" for brief meetings. You weren't supposed to stay in there for more than 90 minutes, but most of us went so farking mad from all the noise (because we were used to the silence) that we would take turns camping in there all day. The best part was that they actually took away the offices from the directors and senior directors to try to squeeze more people in. So imagine the happiness of someone who just went from a private office to a tiny little desk, squeezed in with all the minions (not me, I always had a cubicle). Oh, and the first department in the building that they implemented this floor plan as a trial? HR. Yeah, the one place that actually needs lots of privacy...really stupid. I was at that job for 6 1/2 years, and the new open floor plan caused me to leave. I just couldn't take listening to 20 conversations at once for nine hours a day. It was really too much to handle.
 
2014-04-09 06:10:06 AM  

mrlewish: You people have offices?   I do work.  Threw a truck today.  Only 45 feet though.. a bit small.  Hates little boxes.  fark can't you consolidate for Christs sake? Do you have any idea how heavy boxes of motor oil get after doing that stuff for 3 hours?  Yeah my job sucks but I could beat you up and take your woman.


img.fark.net
 
2014-04-09 06:18:49 AM  
Oh how trendy.

/barf
 
2014-04-09 06:52:29 AM  
I tend to work about half and half remote these days.  Some of my clients have those silly open plan offices, including the ad agency.  I'd go batshiat crazy if I had to deal with it all day, even the perks like beer taps and a liquor cabinet wouldn't be enough.

My favorite workspace?  Bed, with a laptop or three.
 
2014-04-09 07:17:56 AM  

CruJones: No one at my company has an office, not even the CEO.  You get used to it.


Agreed.
 
2014-04-09 07:42:15 AM  
I couldn't get a day's work done in that environment.  Too much jabbering I couldn't tune out and too much noisy shifting and walking around that would be constant interruptions.  I can focus on one thing.  One.  Everything else needs to go to hell because my attention is going to be snapped to the nearest distraction.
 
2014-04-09 08:42:39 AM  
Companies who spend big money on high-concept office renovations have lost their focus, and are probably going to fail soon.
 
2014-04-09 08:52:47 AM  
"laser-cut using vintage automotive robots"

did I hear a niner in there?
 
2014-04-09 09:09:02 AM  
That is just beyond stupid... what a colossal waste of money...
 
2014-04-09 10:07:05 AM  
Cool idea, plywood looks ghetto though. Easy solution would be to paint it.

That being said, I do like my office/personal space to much to ever work in that kind of environment.
 
2014-04-09 11:00:22 AM  
I need to find some Machineyists to do some machineying.

I work at an agency with an open floor plan but it works out a lot better than other executions I've seen. I was dreading it when I got here but I've grown pretty used to it. Desks are all curved about so you aren't sitting directly next to anyone and each person has an 8-10 foot width of their own space. There's also a nice divider that makes it so you aren't looking the person across from you in the face.

That said, I spend a lot of time on calls so I would prefer an office, I'm sure my nearby co-workers would prefer that as well.
 
2014-04-09 11:29:53 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: meyerkev: Ok, that's pretty cool.

No it's not. You know what's cool?...having a door on my private office.


^^This^^

They talked about having places where people could get away, so they built those arches. What?  They give no privacy whatsoever.  There is no place in that space where I could pick my nose.  That is my litmus test for a private space.
 
2014-04-09 12:42:40 PM  
SUCKS
 
2014-04-09 02:46:05 PM  
Re: can't abide clutter, Einstein & Hitler -- to be fair, Einstein's skills at organizing a populace outshone Einstein's to a degree comparable to how Einstein outshone in theoretical physics. Different techniques for different skill-sets and functions I suppose.
 
2014-04-09 02:52:03 PM  
Argh crap editing but yall get the gist
 
2014-04-09 05:10:47 PM  

Ghastly: [img.fark.net image 653x367]

Okay I want my desk next to the booze.


Ha, good catch.
 
2014-04-09 07:25:10 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: FlashHarry: Bad move. Account people shouldn't watch creatives at work. It only fosters jealously.

Do you really think they're smart enough and old enough to notice?

The young account kids are really just there to party.


sometimes. sometimes they have to shiatloads of grunt work for little pay.

i worked in an agency that went from a traditional building - creative and account service separated by a hallway - to an "open concept" space. within a year, the creative team had all left, mainly because the account people went crazy when they realized that a great deal of creativity looks like idle time-wasting to the non-creative type. and unfortunately the agency was run by two account people who suddenly cracked down on creatives, making the atmosphere unlivable. never mind the fact that the team had produced highly successful and award winning creative for the two years prior...

so, yeah. laws, sausages... and ad campaigns.
 
2014-04-09 07:52:05 PM  

meyerkev: Won't go green because you submitted at the wrong time of day, but pretty cool.


Time of day has little to do with it.
 
2014-04-10 12:10:35 AM  

evilmousse: Re: can't abide clutter, Einstein & Hitler -- to be fair, Einstein's skills at organizing a populace outshone Einstein's to a degree comparable to how Einstein outshone in theoretical physics. Different techniques for different skill-sets and functions I suppose.


Dude the Einstein & Hitler ad agency rebranded, they go by just "e+h" now.
 
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