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(The Daily Meal)   Well, this is awkward...Super Foods Kale and Quinoa May Actually Be Bad for You   (thedailymeal.com) divider line 101
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2014-04-08 05:47:03 PM  
"Superfoods notwithstanding, their lives were short and brutal; the average Aztec lived for 37 years."

Yup, and the entire reason for this was because they ate superfoods like quinoa and kale, not because they were living 600 years before modern medicine. Also, anytime an "expert" is identified in an article as "well-known," it's a pretty safe bet that nobody of note in the field actually knows who they are.
 
2014-04-08 06:15:41 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Also, anytime an "expert" is identified in an article as "well-known," it's a pretty safe bet that nobody of note in the field actually knows who they are.


A Google search of her name reveals that she is an "[alternative] nutritional therapist." Nope, can't see anything fishy about that; sounds good to me!
 
2014-04-08 06:35:42 PM  
WTF is this crap that's getting greenlit?
 
2014-04-08 06:36:14 PM  
Oh well.  Back to butter and steaks for me.
 
2014-04-08 06:38:24 PM  

Shazam999: WTF is this crap that's getting greenlit?

 
2014-04-08 06:39:40 PM  
How much could a veggie really mess with your thyroid?
 
2014-04-08 06:40:13 PM  
About 10 words in and my bullshiat detector was going crazy.
 
2014-04-08 06:40:34 PM  

Pocket Ninja: "Superfoods notwithstanding, their lives were short and brutal; the average Aztec lived for 37 years."

Yup, and the entire reason for this was because they ate superfoods like quinoa and kale, not because they were living 600 years before modern medicine. Also, anytime an "expert" is identified in an article as "well-known," it's a pretty safe bet that nobody of note in the field actually knows who they are.


...nothing to do with the ritual sacrifices or frequent wars either... Now that I think about it, how do they know what the average life expectancy was? I can't imagine there has been a study of a representative sample.
 
2014-04-08 06:40:41 PM  

Pocket Ninja: "Superfoods notwithstanding, their lives were short and brutal; the average Aztec lived for 37 years."

Yup, and the entire reason for this was because they ate superfoods like quinoa and kale, not because they were living 600 years before modern medicine. Also, anytime an "expert" is identified in an article as "well-known," it's a pretty safe bet that nobody of note in the field actually knows who they are.


A diet of kale and quinoa would lead anyone to volunteer for ritual sacrifice.
 
2014-04-08 06:41:03 PM  
I only eat raw lard.
 
2014-04-08 06:41:28 PM  
Super food Quinoa gives me mild stomach cramps for 4-6 hours.  There's some irritant on the outside of the grains that's supposed to be removed by soaking during processing, but they must not get all of it.
 
2014-04-08 06:41:42 PM  
I can't eat quinoa. Doesn't matter how much it's rinsed. The most horrific nausea and intestinal pain, it's like millions of tiny Vikings are rampaging in your insides and they all hate you very very much.
 
2014-04-08 06:41:46 PM  

Pocket Ninja: "Superfoods notwithstanding, their lives were short and brutal; the average Aztec lived for 37 years."

Yup, and the entire reason for this was because they ate superfoods like quinoa and kale, not because they were living 600 years before modern medicine. Also, anytime an "expert" is identified in an article as "well-known," it's a pretty safe bet that nobody of note in the field actually knows who they are.


Well it may also have had something to do with being in constant battle and getting your beating heart removed during ritual sacrifice.

On the other hand, kale would make a nice bed for that heart when it gets served for dinner.
 
2014-04-08 06:42:34 PM  

TwistedIvory: Pocket Ninja: Also, anytime an "expert" is identified in an article as "well-known," it's a pretty safe bet that nobody of note in the field actually knows who they are.

A Google search of her name reveals that she is an "[alternative] nutritional therapist." Nope, can't see anything fishy about that; sounds good to me!


The B is for 'Bargain'!
 
2014-04-08 06:43:10 PM  

NorCalLos: Pocket Ninja: "Superfoods notwithstanding, their lives were short and brutal; the average Aztec lived for 37 years."

Yup, and the entire reason for this was because they ate superfoods like quinoa and kale, not because they were living 600 years before modern medicine. Also, anytime an "expert" is identified in an article as "well-known," it's a pretty safe bet that nobody of note in the field actually knows who they are.

...nothing to do with the ritual sacrifices or frequent wars either... Now that I think about it, how do they know what the average life expectancy was? I can't imagine there has been a study of a representative sample.


high rates of infant mortality / everyone that gets past twelve lives to 80 = 37 year average life expectancy
 
2014-04-08 06:43:15 PM  
But Doctor Oz says .....
 
2014-04-08 06:43:19 PM  
cdn-jpg.thedailymeal.com
Author fist angry god etc.
 
2014-04-08 06:44:57 PM  
We need to go back to an Old Testament diet. They lived hundreds of years back then. So from now on, a steady diet of lamb and incest for what ails you. And no apples!
 
2014-04-08 06:45:57 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: [cdn-jpg.thedailymeal.com image 352x500]
Author fist angry god etc.


lol, shes uses her high school yearbook photo? Maybe she just graduated.
 
2014-04-08 06:46:01 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: How much could a veggie really mess with your thyroid?


If you ate ~1kg raw per day it would sequester enough of your iodine that your thyroid couldn't make enough hormones.  So a real problem but a bullshiat amount
 
2014-04-08 06:46:34 PM  

whither_apophis: high rates of infant mortality / everyone that gets past twelve lives to 80 = 37 year average life expectancy


Came here to point that out.  I can't stand when people think life expectancy means that the adults only lived til 37, then died of old age.

Kale can mess with your thyroid, but if you cook it, or keep consuming SOME salt with iodine, you should be fine.  Unless it's all you eat, I suppose, which is a whole other problem.
 
2014-04-08 06:47:19 PM  
I know of one bad effect from kale - it's loaded with oxalate and isn't a good thing to eat for people prone to calcium oxalate kidney stones (the most common kind).  The high level of oxalate can be offset by taking in calcium whenever you eat something high in oxalate.

My first urologist - IDIOT - told me diet has little to do with stones.  My diet had a lot of things high in oxalate like black pepper, dark green leafy veggies, Guinness, and lots of things on the list of high oxalate foods.  Idiot doctor said to limit calcium.  It's been known for quite some time that calcium isn't the bad guy, oxalate is.  If you take in both at the same time the calcium and oxalate bind in your gut.
If you take in lots of oxalate it binds in your kidneys and will form stones.

I still get one every 3 years or so - and they're monsters - but I'm not getting them every other month like I was when i listened to doctor dipshiat.

http://www.ohf.org/docs/OxalateContent092003.pdf
 
2014-04-08 06:47:50 PM  
I just want to say I'm so happy to see so many of us went right the ritual suicide bit. :-)
 
2014-04-08 06:48:22 PM  
but kale makes my poop AWESOME
 
2014-04-08 06:50:11 PM  
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2014-04-08 06:50:15 PM  
Can't those scientististers get back to a cure for global warming or something?
 
2014-04-08 06:50:44 PM  
I prefer fried collard greens to kale anyhow.
 
2014-04-08 06:51:32 PM  
Aztecs aside, quinoa isn't that great relative to other grains.

The only reason people eat that sh*t is stupid foodie-hipsters hyping it up because they see it as "ethnic", and anything ethnic and foreign and exotic must automatically be great.

It's not. It's basically rice for people who like dirt-flavored caviar. And for all the socially conscious types out there, US demand for the stuff is ruining the dietary habits of the very people who traditionally ate the stuff...because they can no longer afford it.
 
2014-04-08 06:51:49 PM  
And so continues the quest to label all food as either good for you, or bad for you.
 
2014-04-08 06:52:13 PM  
It seems you can't go into a restaurant, grocery store, or corner bodega these days without running into different varieties and forms of kale and quinoa labeled as superfoods.

Haven't seen either one in a grocery store around here.

whither_apophis: high rates of infant mortality / everyone that gets past twelve lives to 80 = 37 year average life expectancy


Also this.

Get so tired of people who quote life expectancy and don't know this simple fact.
 
2014-04-08 06:54:54 PM  

KidneyStone: I know of one bad effect from kale - it's loaded with oxalate and isn't a good thing to eat for people prone to calcium oxalate kidney stones (the most common kind).  The high level of oxalate can be offset by taking in calcium whenever you eat something high in oxalate.

My first urologist - IDIOT - told me diet has little to do with stones.  My diet had a lot of things high in oxalate like black pepper, dark green leafy veggies, Guinness, and lots of things on the list of high oxalate foods.  Idiot doctor said to limit calcium.  It's been known for quite some time that calcium isn't the bad guy, oxalate is.  If you take in both at the same time the calcium and oxalate bind in your gut.
If you take in lots of oxalate it binds in your kidneys and will form stones.

I still get one every 3 years or so - and they're monsters - but I'm not getting them every other month like I was when i listened to doctor dipshiat.

http://www.ohf.org/docs/OxalateContent092003.pdf


You know what they call the guy who graduated at the bottom of his medical school class?

A Doctor.
 
2014-04-08 06:55:14 PM  
Also, according to The Daily Mail, a chemical compound found in goji berries can lead to a syndrome known as leaky gut syndrome

Leaky gut = leaky butt which can also be caused by drinking 4 or more cans of Genesee beer
 
2014-04-08 06:55:16 PM  

FunkOut: I can't eat quinoa. Doesn't matter how much it's rinsed. The most horrific nausea and intestinal pain, it's like millions of tiny Vikings are rampaging in your insides and they all hate you very very much.


I have that problem with lentils. Tears the ever living shiat out of my stomach. Actually, most high fiber foods do that to me. The only way I can keep "regular" is by eating something greasy at least once a week.
 
2014-04-08 06:56:56 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Aztecs aside, quinoa isn't that great relative to other grains.

The only reason people eat that sh*t is stupid foodie-hipsters hyping it up because they see it as "ethnic", and anything ethnic and foreign and exotic must automatically be great.

It's not. It's basically rice for people who like dirt-flavored caviar. And for all the socially conscious types out there, US demand for the stuff is ruining the dietary habits of the very people who traditionally ate the stuff...because they can no longer afford it.


Yes, it's ruining their lives because instead of only being able to afford to eat quinoa, they're getting uppity and using the proceeds from farming to buy Coca Cola and other foods instead of being authentic natives and eating quinoa with llama meat 3 meals a day.

The whole reason it was touted as a superfood was the protein profile compared to other grains.
 
2014-04-08 06:59:14 PM  

FunkOut: I can't eat quinoa. Doesn't matter how much it's rinsed. The most horrific nausea and intestinal pain, it's like millions of tiny Vikings are rampaging in your insides and they all hate you very very much.


OK, good to know. Not a quinoa eater now, not gonna start.
 
2014-04-08 07:01:45 PM  

WhackingDay: About 10 words in and my bullshiat detector was going crazy.


About 10 minutes after the term "superfoods" became trendy, my bullshiat detector exploded. Anyone flocking to a particular food because of its newly MARKETED health-positive properties should be force-fed a Del Taco Macho Combo Burrito slurry and stuffed with an anal plug. Paying attention to an article like this? One would have to be the type I just mentioned and deserve the same...
 
2014-04-08 07:02:13 PM  
Mmmm... leaky gut
 
2014-04-08 07:03:19 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Aztecs aside, quinoa isn't that great relative to other grains.

The only reason people eat that sh*t is stupid foodie-hipsters hyping it up because they see it as "ethnic", and anything ethnic and foreign and exotic must automatically be great.

It's not. It's basically rice for people who like dirt-flavored caviar. And for all the socially conscious types out there, US demand for the stuff is ruining the dietary habits of the very people who traditionally ate the stuff...because they can no longer afford it.


It's gross, that's really all you had to say. Long grain wild rice is way better.
 
2014-04-08 07:03:28 PM  
 
2014-04-08 07:03:45 PM  

AngryDragon: KidneyStone: I know of one bad effect from kale - it's loaded with oxalate and isn't a good thing to eat for people prone to calcium oxalate kidney stones (the most common kind).  The high level of oxalate can be offset by taking in calcium whenever you eat something high in oxalate.

My first urologist - IDIOT - told me diet has little to do with stones.  My diet had a lot of things high in oxalate like black pepper, dark green leafy veggies, Guinness, and lots of things on the list of high oxalate foods.  Idiot doctor said to limit calcium.  It's been known for quite some time that calcium isn't the bad guy, oxalate is.  If you take in both at the same time the calcium and oxalate bind in your gut.
If you take in lots of oxalate it binds in your kidneys and will form stones.

I still get one every 3 years or so - and they're monsters - but I'm not getting them every other month like I was when i listened to doctor dipshiat.

http://www.ohf.org/docs/OxalateContent092003.pdf

You know what they call the guy who graduated at the bottom of his medical school class?

A Doctor.


We came close to calling 790 of 795 the Naval Academy class of 1958 "Mr. President".
 
2014-04-08 07:14:07 PM  

NorCalLos: Pocket Ninja: "Superfoods notwithstanding, their lives were short and brutal; the average Aztec lived for 37 years."

Yup, and the entire reason for this was because they ate superfoods like quinoa and kale, not because they were living 600 years before modern medicine. Also, anytime an "expert" is identified in an article as "well-known," it's a pretty safe bet that nobody of note in the field actually knows who they are.

...nothing to do with the ritual sacrifices or frequent wars either... Now that I think about it, how do they know what the average life expectancy was? I can't imagine there has been a study of a representative sample.


Sure we do. All the sacrifices.

Actually there are lots of Aztecs alive today, we just lump them in with all other Mexicans when they get to our border. We could just ask them how old their ancestors used to live.
 
2014-04-08 07:17:02 PM  

jaybeezey: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Aztecs aside, quinoa isn't that great relative to other grains.

The only reason people eat that sh*t is stupid foodie-hipsters hyping it up because they see it as "ethnic", and anything ethnic and foreign and exotic must automatically be great.

It's not. It's basically rice for people who like dirt-flavored caviar. And for all the socially conscious types out there, US demand for the stuff is ruining the dietary habits of the very people who traditionally ate the stuff...because they can no longer afford it.

It's gross, that's really all you had to say. Long grain wild rice is way better.


Wait, you're probably not supposed to eat that because that's Native American food. White people are only allowed to eat minute rice or Twinkies or something.
 
2014-04-08 07:22:13 PM  

you are a puppet: We need to go back to an Old Testament diet. They lived hundreds of years back then. So from now on, a steady diet of lamb and incest for what ails you. And no apples!


Count me in.
 
2014-04-08 07:23:38 PM  

Livinglush: you are a puppet: We need to go back to an Old Testament diet. They lived hundreds of years back then. So from now on, a steady diet of lamb and incest for what ails you. And no apples!

Count me in.


Ew. And EW.

And EWE.
 
2014-04-08 07:25:19 PM  
I like quinoa with some garlic and spinach with a little goat cheese sprinkled on top.
 
2014-04-08 07:25:38 PM  
I love quinoa, it's great cooked in chicken stock.
DNRTFA but I did hear of somebody getting sick from a ridiculous amount of kale on  daily basis. Idiots.

AngryDragon: Oh well.  Back to butter and steaks for me.


I'm baking cookies with real butter right now.. I also eat steak and bacon.
/not fat
//common f*cking sense anyone?
 
2014-04-08 07:26:37 PM  
'Cause I read it in the Daily Meal.
 
2014-04-08 07:41:40 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: How much could a veggie really mess with your thyroid?


Pretty much like aspartame can give you cancer. Kale can be bad for your thyroid IF you eat buttloads of it.
 
2014-04-08 07:42:25 PM  

KidneyStone: I know of one bad effect from kale - it's loaded with oxalate and isn't a good thing to eat for people prone to calcium oxalate kidney stones (the most common kind).  The high level of oxalate can be offset by taking in calcium whenever you eat something high in oxalate.

My first urologist - IDIOT - told me diet has little to do with stones.  My diet had a lot of things high in oxalate like black pepper, dark green leafy veggies, Guinness, and lots of things on the list of high oxalate foods.  Idiot doctor said to limit calcium.  It's been known for quite some time that calcium isn't the bad guy, oxalate is.  If you take in both at the same time the calcium and oxalate bind in your gut.
If you take in lots of oxalate it binds in your kidneys and will form stones.

I still get one every 3 years or so - and they're monsters - but I'm not getting them every other month like I was when i listened to doctor dipshiat.

http://www.ohf.org/docs/OxalateContent092003.pdf


Dude, drink more water.  And change your fark handle.
 
2014-04-08 07:46:28 PM  

jaybeezey: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Aztecs aside, quinoa isn't that great relative to other grains.

The only reason people eat that sh*t is stupid foodie-hipsters hyping it up because they see it as "ethnic", and anything ethnic and foreign and exotic must automatically be great.

It's not. It's basically rice for people who like dirt-flavored caviar. And for all the socially conscious types out there, US demand for the stuff is ruining the dietary habits of the very people who traditionally ate the stuff...because they can no longer afford it.

It's gross, that's really all you had to say. Long grain wild rice is way better.


You people are weird.
 
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