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(Washington Post)   Here's a nice diagram to give you a sense of how deep the ocean is where MH370's ping was detected   (apps.washingtonpost.com) divider line 77
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2014-04-08 05:12:52 PM
Hmm. So...yeah...that's kinda deep, then.
 
2014-04-08 05:53:20 PM
I'd love to ride an Alvin that far down.
 
2014-04-08 05:57:55 PM
if the plane is at the bottom of the ocean, I'd be more worried about any survivors running out of air by now than if a stupid battery is going to keep beeping.
 
2014-04-08 06:52:13 PM
Your mom's hoohaa is deeper.
 
2014-04-08 06:54:55 PM
TIL: A Seawolf can make it to 1600 ft. Impressive.
 
2014-04-08 06:58:49 PM

calbert: if the plane is at the bottom of the ocean, I'd be more worried about any survivors running out of air by now than if a stupid battery is going to keep beeping.


I'm pretty sure a super-compressed paste made of meat doesn't need to breathe.
 
2014-04-08 06:58:59 PM
So yeah, even if they find it, it's still gone. Though I suppose there might be an ROV or two which could retrieve the flight recorders.
 
2014-04-08 06:59:23 PM

calbert: if the plane is at the bottom of the ocean, I'd be more worried about any survivors running out of air by now than if a stupid battery is going to keep beeping.


And that doesn't even take the pressure into account. At those depths and that much pressure, those survivors are going to have a wicked headache! And when they come back up, they'll have the bends!
 
2014-04-08 07:00:59 PM

buckler: calbert: if the plane is at the bottom of the ocean, I'd be more worried about any survivors running out of air by now than if a stupid battery is going to keep beeping.

I'm pretty sure a super-compressed paste made of meat doesn't need to breathe.


Is it wrong that I laughed at this?
 
2014-04-08 07:01:05 PM
Time to send Ballard in. He could use another notch on his belt.
 
2014-04-08 07:01:31 PM
Better pack that snorkel and those swim fins.
 
2014-04-08 07:02:26 PM

WippitGuud: TIL: A Seawolf can make it to 1600 ft. Impressive.


Yeah, but the Muslim turrists have a building that can go down to 2700ft...inverted!

Ahm skert!
 
2014-04-08 07:02:33 PM
Seeing the Titanic on the graphic makes me worried we're going to have a stupid romance movie made about this flight going down.
 
2014-04-08 07:03:12 PM

Your_Huckleberry: Time to send Ballard in. He could use another notch on his belt.


Or James Cameron?
 
2014-04-08 07:07:11 PM

buckler: calbert: if the plane is at the bottom of the ocean, I'd be more worried about any survivors running out of air by now than if a stupid battery is going to keep beeping.

I'm pretty sure a super-compressed paste made of meat doesn't need to breathe.


So you're saying there's a chance?
 
2014-04-08 07:07:26 PM

germ78: Your_Huckleberry: Time to send Ballard in. He could use another notch on his belt.

Or James Cameron?


Perhaps. But Ballard is the better one at finding stuff, though Cameron has the deepest dive record now. On a side note, Cameron should climb Everest now, that'd be a good one-two with Challenger Deep. Or he could just keep rolling about in giant piles of money, whatever works for him.
 
2014-04-08 07:15:26 PM
So, if any passengers actually survived the crash they were crushed to death as the plane sank to the bottom of the ocean...? I don't think I will be sleeping tonight.
 
Oak
2014-04-08 07:17:39 PM
How about a little appreciation for the Cuvier's Beaked Whale?

/Nice diagram
 
2014-04-08 07:19:35 PM

calbert: if the plane is at the bottom of the ocean, I'd be more worried about any survivors running out of air by now than if a stupid battery is going to keep beeping.


Can't they open up a window to let some air in?
 
2014-04-08 07:20:43 PM

FailOut08: So, if any passengers actually survived the crash they were crushed to death as the plane sank to the bottom of the ocean...? I don't think I will be sleeping tonight.


Anybody who is following this story is following it out of a morbid curiosity as to how they died.  After several days with no sign of them there is little doubt they're all dead.
 
2014-04-08 07:22:29 PM
Why not build the black boxes with arms, so they can wear water wings?
 
2014-04-08 07:26:27 PM

Oak: How about a little appreciation for the Cuvier's Beaked Whale?

/Nice diagram


I've tried their Concrete Malts and Butter Burgers, but not the Beaked Whale.  I'll give it a shot, thanks.
 
2014-04-08 07:26:56 PM

Lando Lincoln: Hmm. So...yeah...that's kinda deep, then.


It's a rare example of a newspaper's website doing something nearly impossible to do in a newspaper, but absurdly easy to do on a webpage: Proper scaling.
 
2014-04-08 07:33:51 PM
I remember when Kursk sank. After days of rescue attempts I learned that the depth of the sea floor it was resting on was less than 2/3 of the length of the submarine itself. In other words had it dived vertically two thirds of it would be sticking out of the water while the nose was impaled in the mud.
It just seemed so laughable. Originally I imagined it was miles down when in fact it was a depth people have free dived to.
 
2014-04-08 07:34:42 PM
So basically this.
 
2014-04-08 07:40:51 PM
So... If you were going to put something where you couldn't get it back... This would be the place?

/inevitable claim in 3-2-1
 
2014-04-08 07:42:38 PM
All those squids and Titanic's are probably blocking the signal.
 
2014-04-08 07:50:18 PM

kertus: So... If you were going to put something where you couldn't get it back... This would be the place?

/inevitable claim in 3-2-1


If you wanted to get somewhere and it took you a long time to get there,

Would you wanna rush back here?

I didn't think so.
 
2014-04-08 07:52:14 PM
What does this have to do with game of thrones?
 
2014-04-08 07:57:23 PM
If I had anything to do with the search, I'd skip the first 15,000 feet and just look on the bottom.
 
2014-04-08 08:30:18 PM
The comments are awesome. Jokes about Obama, WaPo, and of course someone bringing the deficit into it. Because partisans.
 
2014-04-08 08:37:42 PM
When's the movie coming out?
 
2014-04-08 08:37:51 PM
...fark that. One of my only fears is swimming in the ocean deeper than I can easily see the bottom. The deepest in I've comfortably been in was snorkling off the coast of the Dominican Republic at about 20 feet, but it was crystal clear for what seemed like a pretty damn good distance. Especially if I can't see, I'm not going any farther in. Fark that. Humans drop farther on the food chain the more shiat there is in the ocean surrounding you, and the deeper it is around you, the more shiat there is that is hungry. Just scrolling down the page, I felt my blood pressure spike.

If I was ever to be tortured, and tossed in the open ocean with no land in sight as part of that... Fark that. Put a bullet in my dome.
 
2014-04-08 08:47:51 PM

RoxtarRyan: ...fark that. One of my only fears is swimming in the ocean deeper than I can easily see the bottom. The deepest in I've comfortably been in was snorkling off the coast of the Dominican Republic at about 20 feet, but it was crystal clear for what seemed like a pretty damn good distance. Especially if I can't see, I'm not going any farther in. Fark that. Humans drop farther on the food chain the more shiat there is in the ocean surrounding you, and the deeper it is around you, the more shiat there is that is hungry. Just scrolling down the page, I felt my blood pressure spike.

If I was ever to be tortured, and tossed in the open ocean with no land in sight as part of that... Fark that. Put a bullet in my dome.


Guess we found your Room 101.
 
2014-04-08 09:01:00 PM

The Smails Kid: RoxtarRyan: ...fark that. One of my only fears is swimming in the ocean deeper than I can easily see the bottom. The deepest in I've comfortably been in was snorkling off the coast of the Dominican Republic at about 20 feet, but it was crystal clear for what seemed like a pretty damn good distance. Especially if I can't see, I'm not going any farther in. Fark that. Humans drop farther on the food chain the more shiat there is in the ocean surrounding you, and the deeper it is around you, the more shiat there is that is hungry. Just scrolling down the page, I felt my blood pressure spike.

If I was ever to be tortured, and tossed in the open ocean with no land in sight as part of that... Fark that. Put a bullet in my dome.

Guess we found your Room 101.


Mine was bees, until I moved to Florida. Now it's Florida.

/Floridian
//GET ME OUT OF HERE
 
2014-04-08 09:02:37 PM

Pinner: Why not build the black boxes with arms, so they can wear water wings?


Well yeah,like an autoinflating bladder of some kind, no? Too hard?
 
2014-04-08 09:05:11 PM

The Smails Kid: Guess we found your Room 101.


Well, it isn't so much the ocean, but again, the shiat that is in there that you can't friggin see, and you can be hit from every which way but up. Either way... I don't think I've ever had any nightmares about it, but even if I did, my brain likely completely blanked it out for my own sanity. It isn't like I fear being in an environment where there are 3 dimensions I need to be aware of (example: would love to be in space), but I don't have to worry about great white/mako sharks out there. I mean, for fark's sake, those things can swim up to speeds of 30MPH. Some of our fastest swimming in the world can only swim at a mere 5MPH. I never watched that movie about those two people stranded swimming in the ocean, but fark that. That is my ultimate nightmare come true.

Archer has his alligators, I have sharks and other hungry shiat in the ocean.
 
2014-04-08 09:05:50 PM
Let's see now. Plane hits the water at around 400 mph, converts into scrap metal and confetti, and then sinks almost 3 miles. You aren't looking for a plane, you're looking for several square miles of junk. If you can't grab the flight recorders, there is no point in looking for anything.
 
2014-04-08 09:09:09 PM

Your_Huckleberry: Time to send Ballard in. He could use another notch on his belt.


So is someone going to tell him where this is, like they did with the Titanic?
 
2014-04-08 09:12:23 PM

buckler: calbert: if the plane is at the bottom of the ocean, I'd be more worried about any survivors running out of air by now than if a stupid battery is going to keep beeping.

I'm pretty sure a super-compressed paste made of meat doesn't need to breathe.


This reminds me to feed my cat
 
2014-04-08 09:17:50 PM

kertus: So... If you were going to put something where you couldn't get it back... This would be the place?

/inevitable claim in 3-2-1


And now we know where they're hiding the Holy Grail.
 
2014-04-08 09:29:16 PM

RoxtarRyan: ...fark that. One of my only fears is swimming in the ocean deeper than I can easily see the bottom. The deepest in I've comfortably been in was snorkling off the coast of the Dominican Republic at about 20 feet, but it was crystal clear for what seemed like a pretty damn good distance. Especially if I can't see, I'm not going any farther in. Fark that. Humans drop farther on the food chain the more shiat there is in the ocean surrounding you, and the deeper it is around you, the more shiat there is that is hungry. Just scrolling down the page, I felt my blood pressure spike.

If I was ever to be tortured, and tossed in the open ocean with no land in sight as part of that... Fark that. Put a bullet in my dome.


That is actually a fairly common and perfectly normal fear.   Diving up here in Puget Sound, where 20 feet of visibility is a good day, one of the things you have to focus on is the reality that the bottom might only be 20 feet down, but it looks like infinity down there, and some toothy sea monster isn't going to come up out of the murk and nibble on your toes.

It's one of the most basic lizard brain instincts we have.  "I am not at the top of the food chain any more."
 
2014-04-08 09:35:24 PM

Rent Party: That is actually a fairly common and perfectly normal fear.


I hope not. My fear borderlines on panic attack if I imagine myself in that circumstance hard enough. I've been in Kandahar and spent months having mortars randomly land around me, had a gun pulled on me here in the states by a couple of thugs, had an F3 tornado destroy buildings a mere 3/4 mile away from me, flown a plane, skydived, and all that shiat I took relatively without fear. But the ocean?

Fark. That. Noise.

Sigh... time to grab a beer.

i.imgur.com

/not like the NSA didn't know my greatest fear already!
 
2014-04-08 09:46:09 PM

RoxtarRyan: Rent Party: That is actually a fairly common and perfectly normal fear.

I hope not. My fear borderlines on panic attack if I imagine myself in that circumstance hard enough. I've been in Kandahar and spent months having mortars randomly land around me, had a gun pulled on me here in the states by a couple of thugs, had an F3 tornado destroy buildings a mere 3/4 mile away from me, flown a plane, skydived, and all that shiat I took relatively without fear. But the ocean?


It really is, man.  You're OK!  It ties directly into two of the most basic animal fear instincts there are.

1)  Something is going to eat me.
2)  I can't breath.

Those things are something you have to consciously overcome.  I've got over 400 dives in Puget Sound, and even I still look down into water that I know is only 15' deep or so, and think "Man, I hope I don't get eaten by whatever is down there."

Humans are visual creatures.  When you take that out of the sensory experience, the mind fills in the blanks for you.
 
2014-04-08 09:50:14 PM

mjbok: Your_Huckleberry: Time to send Ballard in. He could use another notch on his belt.

So is someone going to tell him where this is, like they did with the Titanic?


That's interesting...who is 'they?' That Texan's group? Fred something? Guess I better look it up.
 
2014-04-08 10:03:01 PM
God it must be an absolute psychological torture, beyond the loss itself, to know that your loved one is so far way and so far down, so utterly inaccessible. They might as well be lost in deep space. At least with a grave you have a headstone to pour your tears on and the comfort that you know exactly where they are, where they can be visited. I don't think I could handle the realty of the location of their final resting place, the hyper-accentuation of complete separation. Damn.
 
2014-04-08 10:26:30 PM

Texas Gabe: God it must be an absolute psychological torture, beyond the loss itself, to know that your loved one is so far way and so far down, so utterly inaccessible. They might as well be lost in deep space. At least with a grave you have a headstone to pour your tears on and the comfort that you know exactly where they are, where they can be visited. I don't think I could handle the realty of the location of their final resting place, the hyper-accentuation of complete separation. Damn.


Nothing stopping people from setting up a memorial to visit although I think the option to visit the grave site is cold comfort at best.
 
2014-04-08 10:31:26 PM

Rent Party: Those things are something you have to consciously overcome.  I've got over 400 dives in Puget Sound, and even I still look down into water that I know is only 15' deep or so, and think "Man, I hope I don't get eaten by whatever is down there."


I only have about 70 dives, but that's enough to be quite familiar with the experience.  Every once in a while, I'll be filled with panic for a moment or two on the surface before a dive.  It's like some primal part of my brain takes over for a moment and screams, "what are you doing?!?  You can't breathe down there!"

And then there's Bonne Terre mine.  On one of the "trails" you go through a dark area of the mine and the dive leaders switch off their lights and signal everyone to do the same.  It's pitch black.  Zero points of reference except for a dull light through the openings behind you, which look like the eyes and nose of a skull.  I've done it more than once, but last time I had to fight off panic.

Fun stuff.
 
2014-04-08 10:39:51 PM
Interesting info graphic. I didn't realize the detector was being towed deeper than whales could dive. I also kept getting a mental image of a sperm whale swimming around, minding his own whale business doing whale things and BAM! Clotheslined by the detector's tether. Lol
 
2014-04-08 10:50:37 PM

Your_Huckleberry: That's interesting...who is 'they?' That Texan's group? Fred something? Guess I better look it up.


Here's part of the story  http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/AroundTheWorld/story?id=4978391

A story out there that some believe is that the Titanic was actually discovered in the 70's.  The government knew where it was, but did nothing with that information.  They gave Ballard the location as part of his covert mission to survey two missing subs.

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/forums/discovery-salvage-explor at ion-exhibits/5960-titanic-found-before-1985-a-4.html
 
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