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(Fox News)   TSA says your ammo should be packed in checked baggage, but they do get a little pissy if your WW I artillery shells aren't properly wrapped   (foxnews.com ) divider line 27
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2014-04-08 02:55:14 PM  
OK, good tip, next time I fly, make sure my mortar projectiles are properly declared.
 
2014-04-08 03:28:57 PM  
While the article seems full of reasonableness - the bomb squad figured out they were inert and the kids won't be charged, I remember an article from many years ago about the French "deminers" whose job is to collect and dispose of old ordnance from WWI and WWII. The rusting decaying WWI chemical shells were quite scary.
 
2014-04-08 04:19:50 PM  

dittybopper: OK, good tip, next time I fly, make sure my mortar projectiles are properly declared.


Make sure you say it very loud and clear so that all the people standing around the desk can hear you. You will be whisked through security so fast your head will spin.
 
2014-04-08 04:20:12 PM  
Shouldn't the shells be returned to the French?  How else will they defend themselves when Andorra invades?
 
2014-04-08 04:20:46 PM  
Why would you not send that UPS, just to avoid questions.
 
2014-04-08 04:20:54 PM  

Unobtanium: While the article seems full of reasonableness - the bomb squad figured out they were inert and the kids won't be charged, I remember an article from many years ago about the French "deminers" whose job is to collect and dispose of old ordnance from WWI and WWII. The rusting decaying WWI chemical shells were quite scary.


Do you have a link?
 
2014-04-08 04:28:07 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Why would you not send that UPS, just to avoid questions.


One might be tempted to think that if they really were inert -- just cylinders of metal -- that there was nothing illegal or hazardous & no reason to be concerned.  ...and they don't exactly look like "normal" weapons anyway.
 
2014-04-08 04:31:26 PM  
"TSA spokesman Jim McKinney says a bomb disposal crew determined the shells were inert and no one was ever in danger."

So, an empty brass casing, and maybe an empty projectile?

///Have 1 or 2 of those that my dad brought back from WW II.  20 mm, drilled so you can see they're empty.  They might have been used for classroom training, IDK.  I wouldn't try to bring them on a plane, though.
 
2014-04-08 04:33:30 PM  
Did they return the inert rounds to the kids or not?
 
2014-04-08 04:39:58 PM  

KidneyStone: Did they return the inert rounds to the kids or not?


Probably not.  Confiscating items that momentarily look scary but turn out to be harmless helps protect our freedoms.  Or something.
 
2014-04-08 04:41:35 PM  
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2014-04-08 04:41:40 PM  
a bomb disposal crew determined the shells were inert and no one was ever in danger

so why piss yourselves?

TSA explosives experts believe they are French 77 mm shells.

If you were experts, really, you wouldn't "believe" you would know. That is what we are paying you assholes to do.
Not guess.
Seriously, fark these asshats and dismantle the whole farking thing. It's a travesty.
 
2014-04-08 04:44:28 PM  

Raoul Eaton: Probably not.  Confiscating items that momentarily look scary but turn out to be harmless helps protect our freedoms.  Or something.


yep - those scary trophies will be used in their next "Look what some assholes tried to bring on a plane, but we caught them, and you are safe because we are experts" article. Usually running the the Murdoch empire press shortly before congress must approve a huge budget for the TSA.
 
2014-04-08 04:45:13 PM  
On the other hand,  you are free to bring your Chauchat light machine guns as carry on due to them being less dangerous than nail clippers.
 
2014-04-08 04:46:39 PM  
I think the famous French artillery piece from WWI was a 75mm, not a 77mm.
 
2014-04-08 04:46:49 PM  
So the kids were not sent off to Gitmo and water boarded? How un TSA like of the TSA.
 
2014-04-08 04:48:47 PM  

talkertopc: On the other hand,  you are free to bring your Chauchat light machine guns as carry on due to them being less dangerous than nail clippers.


To be fair, Chauchats are really heavy.  You could probably knock someone over the head with one.
 
2014-04-08 04:53:25 PM  

zimbomba63: I think the famous French artillery piece from WWI was a 75mm, not a 77mm.


Came here to point that out.  The French used a 75 mm shell.  The Germans used a 77 mm shell.
 
2014-04-08 05:04:36 PM  
The teens told law enforcement they obtained the shells at a French World War I artillery range. It was not clear how.

I've spent a little time over in Lorraine, in eastern France, between '91 and '95.  "75" shells are almost as common as rocks in some fields.  We were invited in to more than one farmhouse (the countryfolk in eastern France are amazingly hospitable, especially to Americans).  A common decorative item in many of the houses was a 75 shell...or two...or more.  One house we visited had 'em all over the place; on the mantle, over kitchen cupboards, on bedsteads. Children actually play with them.

/another commonly-found item there is Mirabel.  hits about as hard as the 75
 
2014-04-08 05:18:10 PM  

vudukungfu: a bomb disposal crew determined the shells were inert and no one was ever in danger

so why piss yourselves?

TSA explosives experts believe they are French 77 mm shells.

If you were experts, really, you wouldn't "believe" you would know. That is what we are paying you assholes to do.
Not guess.
Seriously, fark these asshats and dismantle the whole farking thing. It's a travesty.


I thought we were paying them, because our idiot cousins needed a job and those back scatter thingies are a good way to sterilize that lot.
 
2014-04-08 05:19:25 PM  

vudukungfu: a bomb disposal crew determined the shells were inert and no one was ever in danger

so why piss yourselves?

TSA explosives experts believe they are French 77 mm shells.

If you were experts, really, you wouldn't "believe" you would know. That is what we are paying you assholes to do.
Not guess.
Seriously, fark these asshats and dismantle the whole farking thing. It's a travesty.


An expert at knowing if something will go "boom" does not necessarily know all kinds of artillery pieces used in the past century based on a shell that has been sitting in a field for a century.
 
2014-04-08 05:33:06 PM  

cgraves67: dittybopper: OK, good tip, next time I fly, make sure my mortar projectiles are properly declared.

Make sure you say it very loud and clear so that all the people standing around the desk can hear you. You will be whisked through security so fast your head will spin.


They all know I own a cannon. And shoot it.
 
2014-04-08 05:52:41 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: talkertopc: On the other hand,  you are free to bring your Chauchat light machine guns as carry on due to them being less dangerous than nail clippers.

To be fair, Chauchats are really heavy.  You could probably knock someone over the head with one.


and you can use it to make a still.
 
2014-04-08 06:17:44 PM  
Rusty inert shells, so what? Give them back and send the kids on their way. Those things are about as dangerous as a brick.
 
2014-04-08 09:22:04 PM  

KidneyStone: Did they return the inert rounds to the kids or not?


No, just the ert ones.
 
2014-04-09 05:53:29 AM  

Artcurus: Unobtanium: While the article seems full of reasonableness - the bomb squad figured out they were inert and the kids won't be charged, I remember an article from many years ago about the French "deminers" whose job is to collect and dispose of old ordnance from WWI and WWII. The rusting decaying WWI chemical shells were quite scary.

Do you have a link?


It was a Smithsonian Magazine article, back when DARPA ran the internet, I think.

/adjusts onions
 
2014-04-09 06:09:14 AM  

Artcurus: Unobtanium: While the article seems full of reasonableness - the bomb squad figured out they were inert and the kids won't be charged, I remember an article from many years ago about the French "deminers" whose job is to collect and dispose of old ordnance from WWI and WWII. The rusting decaying WWI chemical shells were quite scary.

Do you have a link?


No link, but the article was published in Smithsonian in February 1994.
 
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