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2014-04-08 12:20:31 PM  
I'm pretty sure black people are still around. I think I saw one a few weeks ago.
 
2014-04-08 12:31:22 PM  
Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.
 
2014-04-08 12:53:27 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.


The real racism is pointing out that folks racebait on a regular basis, when you're SUPPOSED TO NOT SEE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL KUMBAYAH ABOUT RACE! That folks actually see racism in action is, in some folks minds, the REAL racism, because if you were TRULY NOT RACIST you wouldn't even recognize it.

It's an interesting tack to take, because it leads to some very odd course corrections. Then again, if folks regularly engage folks to keep the nasty brown people from voting, and touting any sort of policy that helps folks as "pandering"--while ignoring the obvious turns of pandering to the Hard Right and the Corporatists--then they're used to a bit of cognitive dissonance in the first place...
 
2014-04-08 01:42:50 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.


Her opinions are OK but she irritates me for some reason.

She reminds me of "Toby" from the Seinfeld episode The Fire.  The one who got her pinky toe cut off by the street sweeper.
 
2014-04-08 01:58:21 PM  

Lando Lincoln: I'm pretty sure black people are still around. I think I saw one a few weeks ago.



How's the weather in Iowa?
 
2014-04-08 01:58:43 PM  
I added "do the Humpty Hump" to TFH in my head.  I guess that means I'm still a little bit racist.
 
2014-04-08 02:01:43 PM  

fruitloop: I added "do the Humpty Hump" to TFH in my head.  I guess that means I'm still a little bit racist.


Samoans.
 
2014-04-08 02:03:19 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.


TL;DR: "You're - well, not wrong, per se, but certainly not right - and you ARE, most certainly, being an asshole."

// The Nuanced Dude
// "Yeah, well that's just, like, your opinion which differs only slightly from mine, on these minor points. Um, man."
 
2014-04-08 02:05:21 PM  
Makes me think of this, although it's not related, and they worked in at least one black guy:
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-04-08 02:05:53 PM  
We all know the real racism in America is reverse racism against white folks. I mean they have a black president, a Kenyan no less, there hasn't been segregation for like 50 years, and they still get preferential treatment in all walks of life.

Poor whites can no longer say 'I may be poor, but at least I'm white.' That's what's wrong with America.
 
2014-04-08 02:06:05 PM  
... every Obama supporter believes deep down, or sometimes right on the surface, that the furious opposition marshaled against the first black president is a reaction to his race.

Chait spends too much time in the fark politics tab.
 
2014-04-08 02:08:45 PM  
Was he going by pictures?

Because I dunno if anyone noticed, but there are a hell of a lot of white people in this country.
 
2014-04-08 02:12:39 PM  
Better question.

How have Obama's policies affected not just blacks (and he mentions Hispanics as well) that are in poverty or on the economic fringes of society as a whole, but also whites that are in poverty and sitting on the economic fringes of society?
 
2014-04-08 02:14:33 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Soup4Bonnie: Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.

TL;DR: "You're - well, not wrong, per se, but certainly not right - and you ARE, most certainly, being an asshole."

// The Nuanced Dude
// "Yeah, well that's just, like, your opinion which differs only slightly from mine, on these minor points. Um, man."


Not quite. He IS being an asshat, to be certain, and the issue is more that he complains bitterly that OTHER people notice the racism inherent to policy positions, and call it exactly that. And that appears to be the REAL racism. That others notice the effects of policy positions, when they claim to be color blind. It's not a matter of opinion that differs slightly, it is a matter of realizing that his entire argument is deflection from coherent criticism.
 
2014-04-08 02:19:31 PM  

Cletus C.: ... every Obama supporter believes deep down, or sometimes right on the surface, that the furious opposition marshaled against the first black president is a reaction to his race.

Chait spends too much time in the fark politics tab.


It's not just his race. It's being a Democrat while being black which is what makes them so incensed with rage. "Obama won the election just because liberals had white guilt! That's the only possible reason that he could have won!" Yeah, no. We happily voted for Obama and Biden because McCain and Palin were the other choice. I wouldn't have given over $500 to Obama and knocked on doors in Indiana if Sarah Palin hadn't opened her big stupid mouth.
 
2014-04-08 02:26:11 PM  
A housing collapse that destroyed black Americans' wealth

Yeah, because it was only Black people that suffered. Sorry, this annoys the fark out of me.

Otherwise, what's TFA about? Is the problem that the original author didn't actually put the word "black" in his original piece, or is it actually that he thought Black people were not suffering from racism anymore? If it's the first one, BFD. If it's the second one, that's obviously bullshiat, there is still plenty of racism out there, and some people refuse to acknowledge that the world didn't implode when a Black man got elected President.
 
2014-04-08 02:26:25 PM  
People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?
 
2014-04-08 02:28:30 PM  

Gyrfalcon: People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?


The rich.

There is one rule in America.

DON'T BE POOR.

If you are poor, prepare to get farked.
 
2014-04-08 02:30:54 PM  
McCain was born in Panama!
 
2014-04-08 02:32:26 PM  

Gyrfalcon: People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?


One of the Koch brothers wrote a Wall Street OpEd recently about how horribly oppressed he is.

No joke.
 
2014-04-08 02:32:40 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Cletus C.: ... every Obama supporter believes deep down, or sometimes right on the surface, that the furious opposition marshaled against the first black president is a reaction to his race.

Chait spends too much time in the fark politics tab.

It's not just his race. It's being a Democrat while being black which is what makes them so incensed with rage. "Obama won the election just because liberals had white guilt! That's the only possible reason that he could have won!" Yeah, no. We happily voted for Obama and Biden because McCain and Palin were the other choice. I wouldn't have given over $500 to Obama and knocked on doors in Indiana if Sarah Palin hadn't opened her big stupid mouth.


Had Olympia Snowe ran, I would have volunteered for her staff. McCain lost the vote I gave him in the Primary because of the idiocy that spilled from his mouth, with a clear misunderstanding of the Ossetian crisis--well, that and his "suspended" campaign to figure out what in the Hells happened to the housing market that he tacitly supported until it blew up in everyone's face. The next choice was Romney, and I will never vote for that clown, even for dogcatcher.

Folks on both sides of the political spectrum voted for Obama, because he was the better choice.

Don't like it, O Brave Pioneers? Put up better candidates, and support them. Just because they have an R next to their name, doesn't make them better. Vote for the better candidate, and support the better as opposed to the "safer" candidates, and we might have a chance at cleaning up the mess that this hyperpartisanship has created.

I do disagree a bit, that it is entirely racially motivated: it is rage deferred at NOT having Hillary as the candidate in 2008. Folks were so ready to tear her apart, that when they got blindsided at NOT having her as the candidate, that years of rageboners to finally show her that lot of frustration was leveled at Obama. No matter who it was, they were going to get not just a little ire. Years of hoping and waiting and waiting some more to unload years of files to destroy the woman had to be left dusty and unopened, and that just upset folks more than anything that Obama has done. He deferred that orgy of rage and defilement, and for that he has to pay. If that means engaging the Rabid Right to get some payback for deferring that chance, then it's all fine for them, because he has to pay for interfering with the plan. The racist crapfest that ensued? That was just opportunism, in trying to salvage something and support, and dollars spent in gathering the war chest to defeat Hillary. It's not so much about Obama himself, than what he represents: rage denied.
 
2014-04-08 02:33:13 PM  

meat0918: Gyrfalcon: People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?

The rich.

There is one rule in America.

DON'T BE POOR.

If you are poor, prepare to get farked.


Are you kidding?  The rich are burdened with oppressive income taxes which prevent them from creating jobs and buying the products and services that keep the economy running.  If anything, the rich are the most unfortunate people in America.
 
2014-04-08 02:34:36 PM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, because it was only Black people that suffered.


Blacks and latinos were almost twice as likely to have been impacted by the crisis as whites. Given this, it follows an emphasis be put on the affect of the crisis on black people, especially in a story about, you know, black people.
 
2014-04-08 02:34:39 PM  

Gyrfalcon: People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?


Banks are doing OK. If you've got money, things are swimmingly good, so there's that. And the game is rigged to prevent many more from joining the club, so that's all good in the 'hood as well. Of course, if you ask, then bankers and the investor class is horribly put upon, but that's natural and normal. They're just like everyone else. I mean, see how down to earth and folksy that Mitt was, right?
 
2014-04-08 02:37:25 PM  

Mikey1969: A housing collapse that destroyed black Americans' wealth

Yeah, because it was only Black people that suffered. Sorry, this annoys the fark out of me.


Everyone suffered. Minorities suffered disproportionatly more than white folks. I don't know why that's such a controversial statement?
 
2014-04-08 02:38:40 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: meat0918: Gyrfalcon: People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?

The rich.

There is one rule in America.

DON'T BE POOR.

If you are poor, prepare to get farked.

Are you kidding?  The rich are burdened with oppressive income taxes which prevent them from creating jobs and buying the products and services that keep the economy running.  If anything, the rich are the most unfortunate people in America.


They're about to be the most unfortunate people in America, unless they start letting some of that massive wealth "trickle down"(lulz) instead of hoarded at the top, invested in a never ending paper shuffling game that keeps the money from moving to the bottom and filtering back to the top then starting over again in the cycle it should be going though.
 
2014-04-08 02:42:52 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Gyrfalcon: People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?

One of the Koch brothers wrote a Wall Street OpEd recently about how horribly oppressed he is.

No joke.


Motherfarker is lucky we have not oppresed him with lead ... yet.
 
2014-04-08 02:44:31 PM  

hubiestubert: Lando Lincoln: Cletus C.: ... every Obama supporter believes deep down, or sometimes right on the surface, that the furious opposition marshaled against the first black president is a reaction to his race.

Chait spends too much time in the fark politics tab.

It's not just his race. It's being a Democrat while being black which is what makes them so incensed with rage. "Obama won the election just because liberals had white guilt! That's the only possible reason that he could have won!" Yeah, no. We happily voted for Obama and Biden because McCain and Palin were the other choice. I wouldn't have given over $500 to Obama and knocked on doors in Indiana if Sarah Palin hadn't opened her big stupid mouth.

Had Olympia Snowe ran, I would have volunteered for her staff. McCain lost the vote I gave him in the Primary because of the idiocy that spilled from his mouth, with a clear misunderstanding of the Ossetian crisis--well, that and his "suspended" campaign to figure out what in the Hells happened to the housing market that he tacitly supported until it blew up in everyone's face. The next choice was Romney, and I will never vote for that clown, even for dogcatcher.

Folks on both sides of the political spectrum voted for Obama, because he was the better choice.

Don't like it, O Brave Pioneers? Put up better candidates, and support them. Just because they have an R next to their name, doesn't make them better. Vote for the better candidate, and support the better as opposed to the "safer" candidates, and we might have a chance at cleaning up the mess that this hyperpartisanship has created.

I do disagree a bit, that it is entirely racially motivated: it is rage deferred at NOT having Hillary as the candidate in 2008. Folks were so ready to tear her apart, that when they got blindsided at NOT having her as the candidate, that years of rageboners to finally show her that lot of frustration was leveled at Obama. No matter who it was, they were going to get not just a lit ...


Dislike of Obama is not only racism but also misogynism?
 
2014-04-08 02:46:09 PM  

error 303: Mikey1969: A housing collapse that destroyed black Americans' wealth

Yeah, because it was only Black people that suffered. Sorry, this annoys the fark out of me.

Everyone suffered. Minorities suffered disproportionatly more than white folks. I don't know why that's such a controversial statement?


Sorry, POOR people suffered. Unless you have evidence that minorities were specifically targeted by race, then it is a poor person issue, and race is only a secondary thing. I'm willing to accept that there are a higher number of poor minorities, but that's not the same as handing them the housing crisis and pulling out the fainting couches with the outrage.
 
2014-04-08 02:46:25 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Marcus Aurelius: Gyrfalcon: People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?

One of the Koch brothers wrote a Wall Street OpEd recently about how horribly oppressed he is.

No joke.

Motherfarker is lucky we have not oppresed him with lead ... yet.


Compassionate liberalism at its finest.
 
2014-04-08 02:47:14 PM  

Saiga410: Dislike of Obama is not only racism but also misogynism?>/em>

lh3.googleusercontent.com

 
2014-04-08 02:50:30 PM  

Mikey1969: Unless you have evidence that minorities were specifically targeted by race


The Justice Department on Wednesday announced the largest residential fair-lending settlement in history, saying that Bank of America had agreed to pay $335 million to settle allegations that its Countrywide Financial unit discriminated against black and Hispanic borrowers during the housing boom. Link

Justice Department Reaches Settlement with Wells Fargo Resulting in More Than $175 Million in Relief for Homeowners The settlement provides $184.3 million in compensation for wholesale borrowers who were steered into subprime mortgages or who paid higher fees and rates than white borrowers because of their race or national origin. Link

The study, which used data from the 100 largest U.S. metropolitan areas, found that living in a predominantly African-American area, and to a lesser extent Hispanic area, were "powerful predictors of foreclosures" in the nation. Even African-Americans with similar credit profiles and down-payment ratios to white borrowers were more likely to receive subprime loans, according to the study. Link
 
2014-04-08 02:58:11 PM  

hubiestubert: Saiga410: Dislike of Obama is not only racism but also misogynism?>/em>


To expand: the dislike for Hillary isn't that she's a woman. It goes back years to even before her calling Upon Congresscritters on healthcare reform--though that certainly cemented it with the temerity to actually attempt to DO something other than inject homilies about drug use into the national conversation. That you immediately went where you did says a damn sight more about your own thoughts...
 
2014-04-08 03:03:36 PM  
ALMS Merged with the France Families Daytona Prototype racing series, Le Mans switched to closed cockpits, the rise of LeMons,


plenty more I missed
 
2014-04-08 03:07:38 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.


Walsh is great, but Salon is loaded with asshats whose half-baked, anti-white click-bait lend credence to Chait.

They've really gone downhill since they dropped their ad-free policy a few years ago.
 
2014-04-08 03:14:39 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Mikey1969: Unless you have evidence that minorities were specifically targeted by race

The Justice Department on Wednesday announced the largest residential fair-lending settlement in history, saying that Bank of America had agreed to pay $335 million to settle allegations that its Countrywide Financial unit discriminated against black and Hispanic borrowers during the housing boom. Link

Justice Department Reaches Settlement with Wells Fargo Resulting in More Than $175 Million in Relief for Homeowners The settlement provides $184.3 million in compensation for wholesale borrowers who were steered into subprime mortgages or who paid higher fees and rates than white borrowers because of their race or national origin. Link

The study, which used data from the 100 largest U.S. metropolitan areas, found that living in a predominantly African-American area, and to a lesser extent Hispanic area, were "powerful predictors of foreclosures" in the nation. Even African-Americans with similar credit profiles and down-payment ratios to white borrowers were more likely to receive subprime loans, according to the study. Link


Interesting. I wish I was getting the benefit of all of this white-preferential banking. Bet hey, what you gonna do, right?
 
2014-04-08 03:16:13 PM  

Mikey1969: Interesting. I wish I was getting the benefit of all of this white-preferential banking.


Now that you know minorities were specifically targeted and discriminated against hopefully you won't complain the next time an article brings up this fact.
 
2014-04-08 03:20:38 PM  
Subby: . . . only missing one thing. Black people

Only missing one thing, my ass. I still can't find my car keys, tanning spray, or that legal product key for Windows 7 Pro..
 
2014-04-08 03:37:59 PM  

hubiestubert: Soup4Bonnie: Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.

The real racism is pointing out that folks racebait on a regular basis, when you're SUPPOSED TO NOT SEE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL KUMBAYAH ABOUT RACE! That folks actually see racism in action is, in some folks minds, the REAL racism, because if you were TRULY NOT RACIST you wouldn't even recognize it.


It's a left-over from the Victorians. A real lady didn't blush when someone made a double-entendre because a REAL lady knew nothing about such matters. Her head was supposed to be clean and empty* of everything except those few matters deemed in the province of ladies.

No wonder women started chaining themselves to shiat in order to get a vote on how to run things.


*For a great take on this, see the part of "The Importance of Being Ernest" where Cecily and Gwendolyn first meet each other.
 
2014-04-08 04:01:31 PM  
Mikey1969:

Interesting. I wish I was getting the benefit of all of this white-preferential banking. Bet hey, what you gonna do, right?

So, you're white and your banking experience sucked...remember you're one of the *lucky* ones.  You just got a regular butt-farking.  If you were black, you might have gotten the butt-farking with a vinegar enema to finish up.
 
2014-04-08 04:22:22 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.


A salon article with "epic fail" in the headline. I'm definitely going to give this a thorough read.
 
2014-04-08 04:37:07 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Mikey1969:

Interesting. I wish I was getting the benefit of all of this white-preferential banking. Bet hey, what you gonna do, right?

So, you're white and your banking experience sucked...remember you're one of the *lucky* ones.  You just got a regular butt-farking.  If you were black, you might have gotten the butt-farking with a vinegar enema to finish up.


Vinegar gets a bad rap.... ;-)
 
2014-04-08 04:47:35 PM  
I have to admit I find Chait's take on things utterly revolting.  His point of view, no - his central thesis is that accusations of racism are as bad as actual racism.  Not only does he not provide any specific instances (he waves his hands vaguely towards MSNBC and the left) but he doesn't seem to care if the accusations were accurate or not.  In fact he bends over backwards to brush it under the rug.

Chait: "Impressive though the historical, sociological, and psychological evidence undergirding this analysis may be, it also happens to be completely insane. Whatever Lee Atwater said, or meant to say, advocating tax cuts is not in any meaningful sense racist."

This is an amazing! quote here because he is white knighting for Lee Atwater over the southern strategy where Atwater admits open racism has transformed into coded, targeted policy aimed against blacks.

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, ni..er, ni..er, ni..er.  By 1968 you can't say "ni..er" - that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me - because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Ni..er, ni..er."

I don't know what more to add to that?  He's rewriting history for Lee Atwater in 2014?
 
2014-04-08 04:57:58 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Joan Walsh tore Chait a new one about his article, as well.


As did Robert Tracinski. Geez, it's like he can't make anyone happy.
 
2014-04-08 05:16:10 PM  

Cletus C.: Slaves2Darkness: Marcus Aurelius: Gyrfalcon: People are so hung up on whose being more victimized and marginalized these days, it's getting awfully crowded at the bottom. Isn't ANYONE getting a fair shake anymore?

One of the Koch brothers wrote a Wall Street OpEd recently about how horribly oppressed he is.

No joke.

Motherfarker is lucky we have not oppresed him with lead ... yet.

Compassionate liberalism at its finest.


Who ever said I was compassionate? No, I'm the FARK YOU! GIMME! Type of liberal.
 
2014-04-08 06:34:20 PM  
Black guy here. My take (since you didn't ask) is this: the racial backlash against Obama's presidency actually hasn't been as bad as I thought it would be. Let me explain...

It wasn't that long ago (in historical terms) that Jackie Robinson integrated major league baseball. You want to talk about racial backlash? That guy dealt with some shiat. Many of those same people who hated and threatened Robinson are alive today, and it's hard to imagine that their world view has radically changed. Plus they had kids and grand kids. And some of them (not all) learned and inherited that rage and resentment from the earlier generation. If they hated Robinson for integrating baseball...can you imagine their horror at seeing a black man as the goddamn president?? Is it any wonder that they want to "take their country back"...? None of them ever believed they'd live to see this day. And yet, here it is.

Every single time in the history of this country that black people have made any kind of significant advancement (from emancipation to desegregation to civil and voting rights) there has been push back from white America. To me, it was completely expected that Obama would receive backlash. But I honestly thought it'd be much, much worse.

From the moment he announced his candidacy, my biggest fear was that he'd be assassinated. I didn't believe the lunatic fringe in this country would tolerate him. But thankfully that hasn't happened. And I think it's a credit to how far we've come that the backlash he faces (as opposed to Robinson) mostly comes in the form of dumb jokes forwarded via email, the Birther movement, and (to some extant) the rise of the Tea Party. What that says to me is that the kind of outward racism and hostility my parent's and grandparent's generation faced simply has no place in our society anymore.
 
2014-04-08 07:23:23 PM  

hubiestubert: I do disagree a bit, that it is entirely racially motivated: it is rage deferred at NOT having Hillary as the candidate in 2008. Folks were so ready to tear her apart, that when they got blindsided at NOT having her as the candidate, that years of rageboners to finally show her that lot of frustration was leveled at Obama. No matter who it was, they were going to get not just a little ire. Years of hoping and waiting and waiting some more to unload years of files to destroy the woman had to be left dusty and unopened, and that just upset folks more than anything that Obama has done. He deferred that orgy of rage and defilement, and for that he has to pay. If that means engaging the Rabid Right to get some payback for deferring that chance, then it's all fine for them, because he has to pay for interfering with the plan. The racist crapfest that ensued? That was just opportunism, in trying to salvage something and support, and dollars spent in gathering the war chest to defeat Hillary. It's not so much about Obama himself, than what he represents: rage denied.



to add: I also think their rage at Obama is also their way of dealing with the absolute failure that was the Bush presidency. Where the Democrats seem genuinely excited for voting for either Hillary or Obama, the Republicans had to remain mum on their fervent support of Bush and weren't really thrilled with any of their candidates. So their outrage is essentially an attempt to push all of Bush's failings onto Obama so the Democrats basically feel the same shame the Republicans feel.
 
2014-04-08 07:58:45 PM  

Mikey1969: A housing collapse that destroyed black Americans' wealth

Yeah, because it was only Black people that suffered. Sorry, this annoys the fark out of me.

Otherwise, what's TFA about? Is the problem that the original author didn't actually put the word "black" in his original piece, or is it actually that he thought Black people were not suffering from racism anymore? If it's the first one, BFD. If it's the second one, that's obviously bullshiat, there is still plenty of racism out there, and some people refuse to acknowledge that the world didn't implode when a Black man got elected President.


Spotted some asshole in a cooper MINI with one of those cutout stickers on the rear window - a tombstone with the phrase "July 4, 1776 - January 20, 2009 - AMERICA"
Wondered how this fool's brain could generate enough electricity to keep him breathing.
 
2014-04-08 08:10:33 PM  

rewind2846: Mikey1969: A housing collapse that destroyed black Americans' wealth

Yeah, because it was only Black people that suffered. Sorry, this annoys the fark out of me.

Otherwise, what's TFA about? Is the problem that the original author didn't actually put the word "black" in his original piece, or is it actually that he thought Black people were not suffering from racism anymore? If it's the first one, BFD. If it's the second one, that's obviously bullshiat, there is still plenty of racism out there, and some people refuse to acknowledge that the world didn't implode when a Black man got elected President.

Spotted some asshole in a cooper MINI with one of those cutout stickers on the rear window - a tombstone with the phrase "July 4, 1776 - January 20, 2009 - AMERICA"
Wondered how this fool's brain could generate enough electricity to keep him breathing.


They run on pure rage.. .
 
2014-04-08 09:55:28 PM  

Hastor: I have to admit I find Chait's take on things utterly revolting.  His point of view, no - his central thesis is that accusations of racism are as bad as actual racism.  Not only does he not provide any specific instances (he waves his hands vaguely towards MSNBC and the left) but he doesn't seem to care if the accusations were accurate or not.  In fact he bends over backwards to brush it under the rug.

Chait: "Impressive though the historical, sociological, and psychological evidence undergirding this analysis may be, it also happens to be completely insane. Whatever Lee Atwater said, or meant to say, advocating tax cuts is not in any meaningful sense racist."

This is an amazing! quote here because he is white knighting for Lee Atwater over the southern strategy where Atwater admits open racism has transformed into coded, targeted policy aimed against blacks.

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, ni..er, ni..er, ni..er.  By 1968 you can't say "ni..er" - that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me - because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Ni..er, ni..er."

I don't know what more to add to that?  He's rewriting history for Lee Atwater in 2014?


THANK you. That's what I came here to say. The part that's important by Atwater (said, as with so many other truths, when they didn't know they were being recorded for posterity)...

now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.


It was admitted that it was being done because that was an intended side effect, because they couldn't say n...er anymore.
 
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