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(Moose Jaw Times Herald)   This week's sports logo that is insensitive to native people comes to us all the way from, if I can read the card here, Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan   (mjtimes.sk.ca) divider line 45
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2014-04-08 12:24:54 PM  
Well, it is culturally insensitive.  So what are ya going to do about it?
 
2014-04-08 12:26:55 PM  
This is so dumb.  I myself am 1/4 Irish and it doesn't bother me at all that Notre Dame stereotypes us as a bunch of angry drunks looking for fights and making asses of themselves in public.  Have you ever been to Boston?  Just look at these people.  This is how we all are:  shirtless and drunk.

cache.boston.com
 
2014-04-08 12:44:24 PM  
It's Moose Jaw.

Who cares?

/been to Moose Jaw
 
2014-04-08 01:02:17 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This is so dumb.  I myself am 1/4 Irish and it doesn't bother me at all that Notre Dame stereotypes us as a bunch of angry drunks looking for fights and making asses of themselves in public.  Have you ever been to Boston?  Just look at these people.  This is how we all are:  shirtless and drunk.

[cache.boston.com image 539x346]


Notre Dame is/was a mostly Irish Catholic school though. Owning your own stereotype is different than caricaturing another culture.
 
2014-04-08 02:10:48 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This is so dumb.  I myself am 1/4 Irish and it doesn't bother me at all that Notre Dame stereotypes us as a bunch of angry drunks looking for fights and making asses of themselves in public.  Have you ever been to Boston?  Just look at these people.  This is how we all are:  shirtless and drunk.

[cache.boston.com image 539x346]



I suspect that House of Pain was playing in the background.
 
2014-04-08 02:19:45 PM  
That blue haired American Indian was more offensive then that logo. Blue hair is tacky.
 
2014-04-08 02:27:30 PM  
Excellent Slap Shot reference... just beautiful
 
2014-04-08 02:30:00 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This is so dumb.  I myself am 1/4 Irish and it doesn't bother me at all that Notre Dame stereotypes us as a bunch of angry drunks looking for fights and making asses of themselves in public.  Have you ever been to Boston?  Just look at these people.  This is how we all are:  shirtless and drunk.

[cache.boston.com image 539x346]



this shirtless fellow is in for a world of hurt.  he is either:

a) jumping onto the flower pot which will be tipped over, thus flipping him forward, face first onto pavement.
b) jumping straight up, and landing right before flower pot lands on his ankles.
c) jumping straightup, and landing on turned over flower pot, and breaking his ankles.

anyone know how he is doing after this?
 
2014-04-08 02:31:51 PM  
Let's just remove all references to Native Americans from everything, that should make all the attention whores happy.
 
2014-04-08 02:37:01 PM  

Rev.K: It's Moose Jaw.

Who cares?

/been to Moose Jaw


I once married a girl from Moose Jaw.

/true story
 
2014-04-08 02:38:39 PM  
Well done, Subby.
 
2014-04-08 02:38:58 PM  

bart2puck: Rapmaster2000: This is so dumb.  I myself am 1/4 Irish and it doesn't bother me at all that Notre Dame stereotypes us as a bunch of angry drunks looking for fights and making asses of themselves in public.  Have you ever been to Boston?  Just look at these people.  This is how we all are:  shirtless and drunk.

[cache.boston.com image 539x346]


this shirtless fellow is in for a world of hurt.  he is either:

a) jumping onto the flower pot which will be tipped over, thus flipping him forward, face first onto pavement.
b) jumping straight up, and landing right before flower pot lands on his ankles.
c) jumping straightup, and landing on turned over flower pot, and breaking his ankles.

anyone know how he is doing after this?


We can be certain that he's jumping around because he came to get down so he got out of his seat and jumped around.
 
2014-04-08 02:42:00 PM  
Today I learned that people from Moose Jaw are called Moose Javians. Thanks, Fark!

Fun fact about the Warriors: their regular logo also references First Nations folks, but in a more stylized and less jolly-feather-cartoonish way:

upload.wikimedia.org
A reasonably thorough internet search seems to indicate that the local First Nations people are mostly (not all) cool with the regular logo, but mostly pissed about the throwback one.

Maybe the team could've consulted with some Native artists to redo the retro logo in a way that's both aesthetically consistent and not insultingly stereotypical.
 
2014-04-08 03:03:16 PM  
As someone with at least a little Native American blood in my veins, the only thing that logo is insensitive to is my sense of artistic taste & graphic design.
 
2014-04-08 03:04:08 PM  
So Indian's...sorry, Native Americans are now called First Nation's people?

/Why didn't I get the memo?
 
2014-04-08 03:09:05 PM  

Sh0nuff: Let's just remove all references to Native Americans from everything, that should make all the attention whores happy.


Heck why not just remove them entirely?  Then nobody will be offended.
 
2014-04-08 03:13:12 PM  

Inchoate: Today I learned that people from Moose Jaw are called Moose Javians. Thanks, Fark!


I would have gone with Moose Jawas.
 
2014-04-08 03:14:04 PM  

bikerbob59: So Indian's...sorry, Native Americans are now called First Nation's people?

/Why didn't I get the memo?


First Nations is a Canadian thing. They have different official terms for native peoples up there.
 
2014-04-08 03:26:20 PM  
Approximately 30% of stone age culture males die in intertribal warfare.  Depicting one with a tomahawk is no more offensive than showing a Viking with an axe.

Sh0nuff: Let's just remove all references to Native Americans from everything, that should make all the attention whores happy.


The sad thing is that this is happening, and many tribes don't actually want that.  The Chippewas and Hurons are two examples I can think of.

I'm fine with getting rid of Chief Wahoo, but most of these controversies are stirred up by unemployable white people.
 
2014-04-08 03:38:06 PM  

Inchoate: bikerbob59: So Indian's...sorry, Native Americans are now called First Nation's people?

/Why didn't I get the memo?

First Nations is a Canadian thing. They have different official terms for native peoples up there.


Ah.  Thanks for that.
 
2014-04-08 03:42:08 PM  

Inchoate: Today I learned that people from Moose Jaw are called Moose Javians. Thanks, Fark!

Fun fact about the Warriors: their regular logo also references First Nations folks, but in a more stylized and less jolly-feather-cartoonish way:


A reasonably thorough internet search seems to indicate that the local First Nations people are mostly (not all) cool with the regular logo, but mostly pissed about the throwback one.

Maybe the team could've consulted with some Native artists to redo the retro logo in a way that's both aesthetically consistent and not insultingly stereotypical.


I'm guessing, but do not know, that the retro logo is a reproduction of a logo from the professional WHL.
 
2014-04-08 03:51:41 PM  

FLMountainMan: Approximately 30% of stone age culture males die in intertribal warfare.  Depicting one with a tomahawk is no more offensive than showing a Viking with an axe.

Sh0nuff: Let's just remove all references to Native Americans from everything, that should make all the attention whores happy.

The sad thing is that this is happening, and many tribes don't actually want that.  The Chippewas and Hurons are two examples I can think of.

I'm fine with getting rid of Chief Wahoo, but most of these controversies are stirred up by unemployable white people.


citation needed / lol / how the fark do you lump people from all parts of the earth together like that?
 
2014-04-08 03:54:56 PM  
I'm gonna wiggle it at 'em, you cheap bastard.  Be prepared, because when I yank it out,everybody in that audience except my wife is gonna be runnin' for the exits.

img1.fark.net

/These guys are a farking disgrace!
//Dave's a mess
 
2014-04-08 03:57:51 PM  
Has anyone asked Alice 'Skeeter' Gaspers what she thinks?
 
2014-04-08 04:10:36 PM  
What would Omar Sharif have to say about this?
 
2014-04-08 04:39:39 PM  
I don't care what any particular person's opinion is of the design, whether they are Native Americans or not. I just feel like pointing out that years later, Mickey Rooney was still saying that all his Asian friends loved his performance in "Breakfast at Tiffany's."

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-08 04:47:14 PM  
ITT: White people telling Native Americans what sorts of racism they are and aren't allowed to be offended by.
 
2014-04-08 04:57:01 PM  

someonelse: I don't care what any particular person's opinion is of the design, whether they are Native Americans or not. I just feel like pointing out that years later, Mickey Rooney was still saying that all his Asian friends loved his performance in "Breakfast at Tiffany's."

[img.fark.net image 360x240]


No shiat? I would think it would be difficult to be his friend as an Asian if you hated his performance.
 
2014-04-08 05:22:43 PM  

Rev.K: It's Moose Jaw.

Who cares?

/been to Moose Jaw


Did you see the light that says go and the sign that says stop?

Also this is a throwback jersey as part of the teams 30th anniversary celebrations.  This isn't the new team logo or anything.  All this manufactured outrage is really getting on my nerves.
 
2014-04-08 05:41:57 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This is so dumb.  I myself am 1/4 Irish and it doesn't bother me at all that Notre Dame stereotypes us as a bunch of angry drunks looking for fights and making asses of themselves in public.  Have you ever been to Boston?  Just look at these people.  This is how we all are:  shirtless and drunk.

[cache.boston.com image 539x346]


Johnny Canuck approves.
www.nwsportsbeat.com
 
2014-04-08 05:46:23 PM  
Moose Jaw's alright, but I prefer the more cosmopolitan communities of Deer Taint and Bear Clit, personally.
 
2014-04-08 05:52:13 PM  

NetOwl: ITT: White people telling Native Americans what sorts of racism they are and aren't allowed to be offended by.


This.
 
2014-04-08 06:36:55 PM  

Old Huntstein: Rev.K: It's Moose Jaw.

Who cares?

/been to Moose Jaw

I once married a girl from Moose Jaw.

/true story


A girl from Møøse Jaw once bit my sister.
 
2014-04-08 06:45:41 PM  
Offer them some of the white devils money from his honkey culture and see if they shut up. Spoiler: They will
 
2014-04-08 07:08:50 PM  
So their warriors were unarmed? No wonder they lost.
 
2014-04-08 07:25:07 PM  
Better than moose knuckle, amiright?
 
2014-04-08 07:38:48 PM  

Pfighting Polish: I'm gonna wiggle it at 'em, you cheap bastard.  Be prepared, because when I yank it out,everybody in that audience except my wife is gonna be runnin' for the exits.

[img1.fark.net image 54x11]

/These guys are a farking disgrace!
//Dave's a mess


Crap, I couldn't remember which one was from MJ. But that was the voice that I read the headline with.

/ooooooooowns!
 
2014-04-08 09:06:17 PM  

hitmanric: Pfighting Polish: I'm gonna wiggle it at 'em, you cheap bastard.  Be prepared, because when I yank it out,everybody in that audience except my wife is gonna be runnin' for the exits.

[img1.fark.net image 54x11]

/These guys are a farking disgrace!
//Dave's a mess

Crap, I couldn't remember which one was from MJ. But that was the voice that I read the headline with.

/ooooooooowns!


Fark! I'm losing my blouse!

/ shirt
// it's called a shirt
 
2014-04-08 09:12:58 PM  

hitmanric: Crap, I couldn't remember which one was from MJ. But that was the voice that I read the headline with.

/ooooooooowns!


Billy Charlebois [pronounced SHAR-le-BWA, but mangled into CHARL-boy by the fashion show host lady] was the one from Moose Jaw.

Johnny Upton was the one who proceeded to end the fashion show.  "Farkin' Chrysler plant, here I come!"

Denis Lemieux was the goalie who wondered who "ooooownz" the Chiefs, and also had a spectacular discussion of the nature of hockey with Jim Carr at the start of the film.

"You do that, you go to the box, you know ... two minutes, by yourself and ... you ... feel shame ... you know.  And then you get free."

/silly English pig with no brain ...
 
2014-04-08 09:42:01 PM  
Here's how old I am: I actually saw Connie Madigan play quite a bit, and 2,000 points had been done in my world.
 
2014-04-08 10:03:01 PM  

Pfighting Polish: hitmanric: Crap, I couldn't remember which one was from MJ. But that was the voice that I read the headline with.

/ooooooooowns!

Billy Charlebois [pronounced SHAR-le-BWA, but mangled into CHARL-boy by the fashion show host lady] was the one from Moose Jaw.

Johnny Upton was the one who proceeded to end the fashion show.  "Farkin' Chrysler plant, here I come!"

Denis Lemieux was the goalie who wondered who "ooooownz" the Chiefs, and also had a spectacular discussion of the nature of hockey with Jim Carr at the start of the film.

"You do that, you go to the box, you know ... two minutes, by yourself and ... you ... feel shame ... you know.  And then you get free."

/silly English pig with no brain ...


Way to suck the fun out of a random quote-fest from the greatest sports comedy of all time.

\ only if you don't consider golf a sport
\\ golf is not a sport
 
2014-04-08 10:32:22 PM  

Rip_Rufus: Pfighting Polish: hitmanric: Crap, I couldn't remember which one was from MJ. But that was the voice that I read the headline with.

/ooooooooowns!

Billy Charlebois [pronounced SHAR-le-BWA, but mangled into CHARL-boy by the fashion show host lady] was the one from Moose Jaw.

Johnny Upton was the one who proceeded to end the fashion show.  "Farkin' Chrysler plant, here I come!"

Denis Lemieux was the goalie who wondered who "ooooownz" the Chiefs, and also had a spectacular discussion of the nature of hockey with Jim Carr at the start of the film.

"You do that, you go to the box, you know ... two minutes, by yourself and ... you ... feel shame ... you know.  And then you get free."

/silly English pig with no brain ...

Way to suck the fun out of a random quote-fest from the greatest sports comedy of all time.

\ only if you don't consider golf a sport
\\ golf is not a sport


/she's a LESBIAN!!!!!!
 
2014-04-09 12:01:58 AM  

Rip_Rufus: Way to suck the fun out of a random quote-fest from the greatest sports comedy of all time.

\ only if you don't consider golf a sport
\\ golf is not a sport


It never hurts to have a little knowledge to go with your quotes.

Furthermore, I'M LISTENING TO THE FARKING SONG!
 
2014-04-09 09:43:34 AM  

NetOwl: ITT: White people telling Native Americans white people what sorts of racism they are and aren't allowed to be offended by.


FTFY
 
2014-04-09 11:49:41 AM  

hitmanric: /she's a LESBIAN!!!!!!


Paul Newman gleefully crowing "SUZANNE SUCKS PUSSY!" is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on film.
 
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