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2014-04-08 10:15:37 AM  
There are plenty of beers that sound, and even taste, like craft beers, but which are owned by much larger breweries than consumers might think, or even global giants. White beer Blue Moon, for example, is part of Tenth and Blake, owned by SABMiller/MillerCoors.

The app offers information such as:

Careful! What you've got there is an imitation craft brew from one of the big guys. It's got all the soul of a spreadsheet. Crafty, but not Craft.


As a lover of fine craft beers, let me say: Go fark yourselves right in your pretentious asses, you farking beer snobs.
 
2014-04-08 10:18:09 AM  
It's called 'drink beers and decide if you like them', you twits.
 
2014-04-08 10:34:16 AM  
"Cool" tag found weeping into its artisanal beverage of choice...

Beer snobs are hilarious... and 110% guaranteed to induce a coma within 5 minutes of exposure.
 
2014-04-08 10:42:37 AM  
There are two craft brewers in my town.  One does the 'artisan' schtick and the other sticks to German style.  I like them both.

/So there!
 
2014-04-08 10:44:37 AM  
As a person who will be fermenting his own mead and making his own ale this weekend, I couldn't care less what the big breweries do. They sell products that I occasionally drink (nothings better on a hot summer day after working outside then an ice cold rice beer made by a giant brewery). And I couldn't care less what the small craft breweries do. I'm not interested in the vast majority of their products due to price, storage time and environment, high abv, hopping and other concerns. But YMMV.
 
2014-04-08 10:57:05 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: (nothings better on a hot summer day after working outside then an ice cold rice beer made by a giant brewery).


I'm partial to a good iced gingered ale in those circumstances.  Which is why I picked up the malt extract, hops, yeast and ginger root last night.  By the time it's bottled we may actually be able to see the lawn.

Happy brewing!
 
2014-04-08 11:04:08 AM  

Anderson's Pooper: TheShavingofOccam123: (nothings better on a hot summer day after working outside then an ice cold rice beer made by a giant brewery).

I'm partial to a good iced gingered ale in those circumstances.  Which is why I picked up the malt extract, hops, yeast and ginger root last night.  By the time it's bottled we may actually be able to see the lawn.

Happy brewing!


And to you too. Wheeeeeeeee!
 
2014-04-08 11:09:02 AM  
As a general principle, I agree that you should drink whatever you like. But it is not a coincidence, or a mark of quality, that Blue Moon, Shock Top, and Kona are available at every grocery in the US. Their relationship with the big boys is what earns them prime real estate on the shelf. They may be good but that is not why they are on offer at your local market to the exclusion of other brewers' products.
 
2014-04-08 11:12:53 AM  

Wellon Dowd: As a general principle, I agree that you should drink whatever you like. But it is not a coincidence, or a mark of quality, that Blue Moon, Shock Top, and Kona are available at every grocery in the US. Their relationship with the big boys is what earns them prime real estate on the shelf. They may be good but that is not why they are on offer at your local market to the exclusion of other brewers' products.


That's one of my biggest problems with small breweries. I can't recall the industry term in retail but you have to pay to play in order to get your product on the shelves. There's not a lot of choice thanks to the big boys.
 
2014-04-08 11:13:39 AM  
Beer snobs are people who have literally nothing else interesting about them.
 
Skr
2014-04-08 11:14:27 AM  
Beer finders can be handy, used this one many times.
FD Beer Finder
 
2014-04-08 11:38:30 AM  
Who cares..

Just.. PUT IT IN YOUR MOUTH.
 
2014-04-08 11:44:04 AM  
This whole "must fit that definition of "craft beer" to be good beer" is a load of bollocks.

Nine times out of ten, the beer coming from these craft breweries is oxidized (from poor packaging QC and/or unrefrigerated transportation and storage) and loaded with diacetyl (either indicative of insufficient maturation, or bacterial contamination).     You know what I like about those "not-actually craft beers"?    CONSISTENCY AND QUALITY.

When I pick up a beer that I've had before, I want it to taste like what I expect.   It's amazing how often brewers fall short of that mark.
 
2014-04-08 12:00:51 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: This whole "must fit that definition of "craft beer" to be good beer" is a load of bollocks.

Nine times out of ten, the beer coming from these craft breweries is oxidized (from poor packaging QC and/or unrefrigerated transportation and storage) and loaded with diacetyl (either indicative of insufficient maturation, or bacterial contamination).     You know what I like about those "not-actually craft beers"?   CONSISTENCY AND QUALITY.


This. If you can't or won't make it properly, then don't sell it.

Three pathways lead to the creation of diacetyl. The first is through normal yeast metabolism. Brewer's yeast form a precursor called alpha acetolactate (AAL), which is tasteless. This compound is converted to diacetyl as the beer ages. The reaction that changes AAL to diacetyl is accelerated by high temperature. At cool temperatures it will still occur, but more slowly.

Modern brewing practice dictates that beer be aged on live yeast until the vast majority of AAL is converted into diacetyl. Brewer's yeast, while unable to metabolize AAL, will readily absorb and break down diacetyl into relatively flavorless compounds. By giving the beer enough contact time with the active yeast, the brewer can eliminate the diacetyl. It generally takes only about two weeks of aging an ale to assure that it will have no buttery flavors.

Lager beers can take a bit longer to "diacetyl proof," because they are usually fermented and matured at lower temperatures than ales. The cool environment slows the conversion of AAL to diacetyl. Some brewers will warm their lagers to 55-60 °F to help speed the oxidation of AAL to diacetyl and its subsequent metabolism by the yeast. Still, it can take a minimum of four weeks to produce a stable lager.

Diacetyl is also formed by mutant yeast. Brewer's yeast that has lost its ability to properly utilize oxygen are called respiratory mutants, or petite mutants (because they form abnormally small colonies on laboratory plates). These yeast are also unable to properly metabolize diacetyl, thus leaving it in the beer.

A bacteria called pediococcus can also form high levels of diacetyl in beer. While this bug cannot hurt humans, it can make beer sour as well as buttery. Tartness is desirable in Lambic beers, but it is most unwelcome in most other beer styles. The vast majority of brewers do their best to avoid pediococcus!


http://www.professorbeer.com/articles/diacetyl.html
 
2014-04-08 12:12:44 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: This whole "must fit that definition of "craft beer" to be good beer" is a load of bollocks.


Yea the fact that the Brewer's Association definition of a craft brewer makes no reference to craftsmanship makes it a total garbage. I mean Goose Island could hand craft a small batch of the greatest beer in the world but under the BA's definition it wouldn't be craft. At the same time some small some small time brewery could make some total garbage overhopped, undercarbed and infected IPA and it would still meet their definition. I suppose the definition is great as a marketing scheme, but it does nothing to help me as a consumer. If the BA really wanted to do something useful they would make some sort of seal of quality.
 
2014-04-08 12:17:47 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: and loaded with diacetyl


I don't know what kind of craft beers you're drinking. I don't think I've ever purchased a beer loaded with diacetyl taste.
 
2014-04-08 12:17:57 PM  

Skr: Beer finders can be handy, used this one many times.
FD Beer Finder


If you only care for Flying Dog....which is quite tasty.
 
2014-04-08 12:36:31 PM  
There's no such thing as "Cool" in reference to an app.

Either go html5 or go home!

Putting another layer around a website is for tards.
 
2014-04-08 12:59:58 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Embden.Meyerhof: and loaded with diacetyl

I don't know what kind of craft beers you're drinking. I don't think I've ever purchased a beer loaded with diacetyl taste.


I've had one that I can think of, it was some sort of imperial white ale from River North brewing in Denver. Tasted like buttered popcorn. But I agree it's pretty rare, no one producing that crappy of beer is going to stay in business for very long.
 
2014-04-08 01:11:04 PM  

bdub77: It's called 'drink beers and decide if you like them', you twits.


But there are so many beers!  I've only gotten up to 30 and I'm already going blind.

Please help.  Call paramedics.  A wording. For even far example: Has decided to been far example: Has anyone really been go want to be meaning. For example: Has a mixture of abstruse wording that appears to be meaning. For example: Has decided to use word salad is and word salad is a mixture like? A wording.
 
2014-04-08 01:13:46 PM  

FTGodWin: There's no such thing as "Cool" in reference to an app.

Either go html5 or go home!

Putting another layer around a website is for tards.


http://www.infoworld.com/t/mobile-development/forrester-html5-apps-s ti ll-not-good-native-apps-235189

Forrester: HTML5 apps still not as good as native apps
 
2014-04-08 01:34:20 PM  
Ah, the perfect confluence of annoyance: beer snobs and iphone snobs
 
2014-04-08 02:48:10 PM  

FTGodWin: There's no such thing as "Cool" in reference to an app.

Either go html5 or go home!

Putting another layer around a website is for tards.


It makes more sense to charge 99 cents for your app (like Craft Check does) than to put up a pay wall on an HTML 5 site for a 99 cent transaction.
 
2014-04-08 04:25:57 PM  
Here in Wisconsin, Woodman's grocery has an incredible selection of micro brews from all over the US, with one large cooler devoted to WI brews. Its a bit like being in heaven except without the tits.
 
2014-04-08 05:37:52 PM  

yanoosh: Here in Wisconsin, Woodman's grocery has an incredible selection of micro brews from all over the US, with one large cooler devoted to WI brews. Its a bit like being in heaven except without the tits.


That would be pretty weird if tits spouted craft beer, but I could definitely get used to it.
 
2014-04-08 08:10:04 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Embden.Meyerhof: and loaded with diacetyl

I don't know what kind of craft beers you're drinking. I don't think I've ever purchased a beer loaded with diacetyl taste.


I'm drinking all of them, since it's my job to coordinate 4 different brewerys' taste panels - I train the trainers.

My first guess as to why you haven't tasted a lot of D in beer is because your threshold is higher than average (there's a wide distribution across the population to diacetyl sensitivity).

Your best bet to get some diacetyl beer is in the northeast, where the Ringwood yeast strain has held a privileged status among many brewers over there for years.
 
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