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2014-04-08 08:41:46 AM  
Although I was prepared to hate it,

See, I approached this show with exactly the opposite mindset. I was prepared to really like it, but found myself utterly bored halfway through. Also, I don't think I've found a lead character more irritating since Carrie Bradshaw.
 
2014-04-08 10:04:38 AM  

What an exciting show it would be if it was 30 mins of watching people 'code'. So real. So raw.

I liked it. it definitely had a Mike Judge vibe. And anyone who is 'prepared to hate' a tv show before even watching the first episode is a douchebag.

 
2014-04-08 10:08:51 AM  
Pitch meetings, getting investors, and schmoozing is definitely not "play" and I'd argue is more work than actual coding can be.  Once you get the buy in in the Valley, then the real work actually starts...and that real work is continuing to do the same pitches, investor demos, and schmoozefests while your teleworking Bangladeshi and Sri Lankan code copiers and data farmers do the grunt work, leaving the finishing HTML5 stuff to the two or three UCLA grads you keep on staff to make it appear hip....or so I'm told...
 
2014-04-08 10:11:20 AM  
I hope they let Kumail Nanjiani and Kyle from Maron actually be funny. I didn't really laugh at all since it was like the writers thought the background satire would carry the show.
 
kab
2014-04-08 10:58:37 AM  
Started watching it, found it unfunny and rather annoying, as I hear enough of that bullshiat jargon at work.

*click*
 
2014-04-08 11:04:16 AM  
Lol. Show hits a little too close to home for farkers.
 
2014-04-08 01:59:20 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Although I was prepared to hate it,

See, I approached this show with exactly the opposite mindset. I was prepared to really like it, but found myself utterly bored halfway through. Also, I don't think I've found a lead character more irritating since Carrie Bradshaw.


That was my exact take. Great supporting cast and could be really funny and a great premise but the lead actor is just killing the show. Needs Michael Cera or Jessie Eisenberg.

I'm also among the few who loved HBO's short lived "How to make it in America" about a couple guys trying to start a clothing label so I was also geared up to really enjoy this but was ultimately disappointed.
 
2014-04-08 01:59:32 PM  
Admittedly, it's pretty hard to film that in a way that wouldn't put viewers to sleep.

So the author's main gripe was that they didn't show something he (a tech writer) described as remarkably boring. I guess everyone has word count quotas to fill each week?
 
2014-04-08 02:00:08 PM  
I have not watched it....

That said, writing code is BORING. I should know, I write code. Finding and fixing bugs in code is more exciting to do, but probably just as BORING to watch.....

It's an HBO thing.......  they need excitement from somewhere......

Also, every attempt at coding I have seen in movies is rather pathetic......   Can I tell you how stupid Hugh Jackman looked in Swordfish???
 
2014-04-08 02:02:27 PM  

Strik3r: I have not watched it....

That said, writing code is BORING. I should know, I write code. Finding and fixing bugs in code is more exciting to do, but probably just as BORING to watch.....

It's an HBO thing.......  they need excitement from somewhere......

Also, every attempt at coding I have seen in movies is rather pathetic......   Can I tell you how stupid Hugh Jackman looked in Swordfish???


As bad as this?

cdn.chud.com
 
2014-04-08 02:07:12 PM  

Strik3r: I have not watched it....

That said, writing code is BORING. I should know, I write code. Finding and fixing bugs in code is more exciting to do, but probably just as BORING to watch.....

It's an HBO thing.......  they need excitement from somewhere......

Also, every attempt at coding I have seen in movies is rather pathetic......   Can I tell you how stupid Hugh Jackman looked in Swordfish???


It's like how people on TV or in movies never say "Goodbye" on the telephone. There are certain things that television just cuts because there's a finite amount of time in each episode, and any time that is "wasted" is a net loss. COULD they film a realistic version of coding, with all that entails? Of course; it'd cost them about $20 bucks to get a consultant to tell them what it looks like. They don't because it's much easier to have the two "Bro-grammers" say, "Whoa, this code is like... awesome!" and have the viewer take their word for it. Why? Because 99.999% of people watching the show wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyways.
 
2014-04-08 02:19:17 PM  
@ pxlboy
@ Frankenstorm


YEP !
 
2014-04-08 03:18:30 PM  

Frankenstrom: It's like how people on TV or in movies never say "Goodbye" on the telephone. There are certain things that television just cuts because there's a finite amount of time in each episode, and any time that is "wasted" is a net loss. COULD they film a realistic version of coding, with all that entails? Of course; it'd cost them about $20 bucks to get a consultant to tell them what it looks like. They don't because it's much easier to have the two "Bro-grammers" say, "Whoa, this code is like... awesome!" and have the viewer take their word for it. Why? Because 99.999% of people watching the show wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyways.


Yeah.

As an actual programmer, I can say that that's probably about as good as we're going to get.  "Hey, this guys website sucks" -> "Wait, he has a really cool piece of tech powering his sucky website".  Short, easy to understand (or at least toss in the same mental bucket as Star Wars techno-babble), and not *too* insulting to people who actually know WTF they're talking about.

Because coding is long stretches of boring coupled with short bursts of hallucinations from lack of sleep.
 
2014-04-08 04:25:09 PM  
There was a recent article about the nitty gritty on the show the other day. They actually put together a team of tech folks and came up with a feasible realistic concept for the tech in the show, and put together like a 40 page pitch for the tbing, then went out and pitched it. Some VCs actually wanted to buy it.
 
2014-04-08 04:44:42 PM  

Outlawtsar: Pitch meetings, getting investors, and schmoozing is definitely not "play" and I'd argue is more work than actual coding can be.  Once you get the buy in in the Valley, then the real work actually starts...and that real work is continuing to do the same pitches, investor demos, and schmoozefests while your teleworking Bangladeshi and Sri Lankan code copiers and data farmers do the grunt work, leaving the finishing HTML5 stuff to the two or three UCLA grads you keep on staff to make it appear hip....or so I'm told...


Beautifully said.


/friend of the UCLA grads
//they are keeping it hip
///recruiting more every six months
 
2014-04-08 04:52:58 PM  

exactly three days: Outlawtsar: Pitch meetings, getting investors, and schmoozing is definitely not "play" and I'd argue is more work than actual coding can be.  Once you get the buy in in the Valley, then the real work actually starts...and that real work is continuing to do the same pitches, investor demos, and schmoozefests while your teleworking Bangladeshi and Sri Lankan code copiers and data farmers do the grunt work, leaving the finishing HTML5 stuff to the two or three UCLA grads you keep on staff to make it appear hip....or so I'm told...

Beautifully said.


/friend of the UCLA grads
//they are keeping it hip
///recruiting more every six months


Well, in all fairness, you don't use East Asians.  You import East Europeans.

/2 Greeks, 2 Indians, 3 midwesterners, 1 CA native.
 
2014-04-08 11:35:41 PM  

pxlboy: As bad as this?


Hackers had a couple of cringe worthy moments ("Hackers of the world UNITE!") but I wouldn't even put it in the top ten of bad computer movies.

This one on the other hand...
img.fark.net
was breathtakingly stupid. Luckily it had Rachael Lee Cook and Claire Forlani in it so it was at least eye candy worthy. And yes, the HTML in the photo above is representative of what the director thought code should look like.
 
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