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(CBC)   Parti Québécois handed worst defeat since 1970 at the hands of anglo immigrants and students; Liberal victors interpret this as mandate to be anything but PQ   (cbc.ca ) divider line
    More: Followup, Parti Quebecois, Quebec General elections, Philippe Couillard, Jean Chretien, Pauline Marois, Quebec, Financial crisis of 2007-2009, individual mandate  
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2014-04-08 11:07:23 AM  
5 votes:
Good for Quebec. Marois and her minions needed to go, and so they got stomped in an election they themselves called. Brilliant.

Now Canada just has to get rid of The Harper Government, and they can go back to being hands down the greatest country in North America.
2014-04-08 01:22:55 PM  
2 votes:

sendtodave: Huh.

Today I learned that Canada has politics, too.  Tiny widdle politics.  So adorable!


Yep! We also have more than two parties, because our brains can handle higher numbers!
2014-04-08 11:33:47 AM  
2 votes:
Nothing like a good old fashioned Canadian Punishment Vote.
2014-04-08 11:06:47 AM  
2 votes:
Quebecers have a collective unconscious memory of a romantic time of the pioneer days.  Taming the land and building cities and a future.  It is like their Camelot.  I grew-up in Quebec and had those memories too.  It was an escape from the shackles of European tyranny.  A truly prosperous time.  Songs, stories and an oral history creating memories so vivid they feel real to people born just 20 years ago.

The feelings and emotions are all very real.  Pride, love, hard work, family.  Very real except for very important point.  What they don't realize is that the peak of prosperity, peace and well being they are remembering was actually after they lost the war and the English and French were working together.

Feelings are real and even the unconscious memories are real.  The mistake they make and which politicians foster is the association of these feelings with the period of Quebec independence before the French/English war.  That was actually a period of great suffering, strife and conflict.
2014-04-08 10:38:16 AM  
2 votes:

mrshowrules: This is the end of the separation movement.  It is the first time a party has lost power by even raising the concept of separation.


Oh that is funny. Separatism will always run high to some degree in Quebec. Hell the Liberal Party of Quebec already said they will bring it up federally. Also if you look at the three main parties in QC, they all have ties to separation.
2014-04-08 10:28:02 AM  
2 votes:

Pope Larry II: Subby, you missed the part about the leader of the PQ losing her own riding.


I really am horrible about headlines. 30 seconds after I submitted, I was like, "Wow, I should've made a crack about the hilarious pic of Couillard that's in it."

/ subby
// got one for the year, can now relax
2014-04-08 10:15:26 AM  
2 votes:
This is the end of the separation movement.  It is the first time a party has lost power by even raising the concept of separation.
2014-04-08 10:02:57 AM  
2 votes:
The geniuses thought everyone wanted seperation, so much so that they called an election 18 months into their term. They were so sure they would go from minority govt to majority. And they were crushed. My newly purchased house (bought right before the election for a steal) just jumped in value by at least 20-25%.

Thanks PKP!
2014-04-09 06:06:41 AM  
1 vote:
The Perils of Pauline Marois.

Leader of a minority government who thought she could be leader of a majority government by calling an early election ends up losing her own seat while her party suffers its worst showing since its very first election in 1970.

A lot of speculation now is over how largely the Charter thingy factored into these results but for my money it was Marois' super candidate Péladeau's fist-pumping pro-sovereignty photo op that was the beginning of the end for them.

Yes, the Liberals have a bad recent track record of corruption in Quebec but it's Quebec for crying out loud.

It's basically like New Jersey only with funnier accents, better beer and hotter women.
2014-04-08 01:32:27 PM  
1 vote:

sendtodave: Savage Bacon: sendtodave: Huh.

Today I learned that Canada has politics, too.  Tiny widdle politics.  So adorable!

Yep! We also have more than two parties, because our brains can handle higher numbers!

Daaaaw...

Very good, little guy!  Two IS bigger than one!


But enough about the extent of your knowledge...
2014-04-08 12:06:50 PM  
1 vote:

Pope Larry II: Subby, you missed the part about the leader of the PQ losing her own riding. Marios took a solid lead in the poles before the election and turned it into a resounding defeat.

I'm guessing the talk about the Charter of Values (aka let's force the immigrants out of the province) and the Referendum did not go over well.


Bingo. I am foreseeing the spectacular decline of the PQ. Péladeau did not enter the race to be an MNA or even a Minister: He wants the top job. His leadership will cause even more PQ throat slitting and back stabbing while Quebec moves away from fantastical ideologies. Who else is going to take the reins? Drainville? His Chartre was what started this gong show. Lisée? Even as Minister for English relations he couldn't budge anglophone support so that isn't going to fly.

Let the in-fighting begin!
2014-04-08 11:17:39 AM  
1 vote:

Pope Larry II: I'm guessing the talk about the Charter of Values (aka let's force the immigrants out of the province) and the Referendum did not go over well.


Actually, the Charter of Values was what had the PQ way up in the polls at the start of the election. It's not popular in the cities, but it was quite popular out in rural areas with the simple farmers, the people of the land, you know... morons.

It's actually much more amusing that it was talk of separation, basically the PQ's raison d'être, that killed their campaign.
2014-04-08 11:00:09 AM  
1 vote:

mr.doctor: mrshowrules: This is the end of the separation movement.  It is the first time a party has lost power by even raising the concept of separation.

Oh that is funny. Separatism will always run high to some degree in Quebec. Hell the Liberal Party of Quebec already said they will bring it up federally. Also if you look at the three main parties in QC, they all have ties to separation.


The hell are you smoking? Got any citations to back the bolded statements up? Separatism sentiment has never been weaker in Québec. We booted the Bloc out of the federal scene a few years back in favour of the NDP, and now we've swept the PQ even out of its leader's own freakin' riding. I wouldn't be surprised if Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ) became the Liberal's new opposition in the near future, as it actually focuses on the issues we want to hear about, namely the economy and healthcare.

No matter how much rhetoric you may hear from separatist hardliners (who, admittedly, have always been the most vocal and gotten the most press, since folks love a good rant), Quebecers are sick of separatism. We're sick of hearing about it as a platform item. Of the four parties on the electoral radar, namely the PLQ, PQ, CAQ and QS (Québec Solidaire), only the PQ and QS actually have outright separation as part of their core platform. The CAQ was formed by a former PQ player, François Legault, specifically because he was tired of having separatism take center stage in provincial politics. He wanted to talk about infrastructure, business and health, and judging by this last election, his party is gaining mad traction. If separatism is even an item with this guy, he'll be bringing it up after our economy's fixed (about a day after never).

I, for one, am glad we've moved beyond the see-saw between the PLQ and PQ that's prevailed since the late 70s. I'm thrilled we're moving beyond separatism and that we use our voting power to oust those who would discriminate and marginalize. The times, they are a-changin'.
2014-04-08 10:50:54 AM  
1 vote:

shortymac: GOOD, Marois was smoking something good, she thought Quebec could separate but "have no borders, no tolls". DA FAQ?

This is actually a good sign, playing to the old racist guard isn't going to work anymore, time for the Gen Xers and Millennials to fix things up.


What she meant by "separation" was "we have the power to enshrine racist dickbag laws while still effectively being in Canada", that's all. Basically the Canadian version of "States' rights *nudge nudge*"
2014-04-08 10:47:14 AM  
1 vote:

shortymac: GOOD, Marois was smoking something good, she thought Quebec could separate but "have no borders, no tolls". DA FAQ?

This is actually a good sign, playing to the old racist guard isn't going to work anymore, time for the Gen Xers and Millennials to fix things up.


Countries in Europe have very loose borders today.
2014-04-08 10:40:22 AM  
1 vote:
It's now time for everybody who's not from Quebec to point and laugh at the French language police.
2014-04-08 10:38:43 AM  
1 vote:
GOOD, Marois was smoking something good, she thought Quebec could separate but "have no borders, no tolls". DA FAQ?

This is actually a good sign, playing to the old racist guard isn't going to work anymore, time for the Gen Xers and Millennials to fix things up.
2014-04-08 10:30:44 AM  
1 vote:
I guess playing the feverish anti-islam card outside of Europe isn't magic after all.
2014-04-08 10:28:06 AM  
1 vote:

ColonelCathcart: Merde!  Does that mean we can actually get some bi-lingual signage in some of the hick places in QC?


There is no problem with bilingual signage provided the French signage is larger and more prominent.
2014-04-08 10:01:48 AM  
1 vote:
Huh. I thought it was 'money and the ethnic vote'.
2014-04-08 10:01:02 AM  
1 vote:
That's great news for the rest of Canada. Stability is what Quebec needs now to rebuild their economy and clean up the infrastructure. Now they can get back to what is important: Poutine, Corruption and Strippers.
2014-04-08 08:54:32 AM  
1 vote:
I guess the good people of Quebec decided against brown as a shirt colour.  Vous avez choisi à bon escient, mes amis.
2014-04-08 08:48:20 AM  
1 vote:
Subby, you missed the part about the leader of the PQ losing her own riding. Marios took a solid lead in the poles before the election and turned it into a resounding defeat.

I'm guessing the talk about the Charter of Values (aka let's force the immigrants out of the province) and the Referendum did not go over well.
 
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