Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CBC)   Parti Québécois handed worst defeat since 1970 at the hands of anglo immigrants and students; Liberal victors interpret this as mandate to be anything but PQ   (cbc.ca ) divider line
    More: Followup, Parti Quebecois, Quebec General elections, Philippe Couillard, Jean Chretien, Pauline Marois, Quebec, Financial crisis of 2007-2009, individual mandate  
•       •       •

1248 clicks; posted to Politics » on 08 Apr 2014 at 9:56 AM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



64 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all
 
2014-04-08 01:38:35 PM  

Savage Bacon: sendtodave: Savage Bacon: sendtodave: Huh.

Today I learned that Canada has politics, too.  Tiny widdle politics.  So adorable!

Yep! We also have more than two parties, because our brains can handle higher numbers!

Daaaaw...

Very good, little guy!  Two IS bigger than one!

But enough about the extent of your knowledge...


"I know you are, but what am I?"

I'm an American.  You know, the guys that invented steaks, adjunct lager, and running the world.

Woooooooo.
 
2014-04-08 01:45:09 PM  

sendtodave: I'm an American.  You know, the guys that invented steaks, adjunct lager, and running the world.

Woooooooo.


I thought that was the French.
 
2014-04-08 01:53:02 PM  

starsrift: sendtodave: I'm an American.  You know, the guys that invented steaks, adjunct lager, and running the world.

Woooooooo.

I thought that was the French.


Nah. The French make steaks slathered in sauce so you can't taste that it's rotten, drink wine instead of lager, and tried to run the world but pretty much surrendered.

America invented the burger on a donut, nuclear weaponry, and the hoverround.

And good on Canada.
 
2014-04-08 02:02:22 PM  
Savage Bacon:
There it is. This is why the PQ lost and the PLQ won. The article is correct in saying that this was more of a crushing PQ defeat than a brilliant PLQ victory. The PQ damned itself quite effectively. Furthermore, a recent article in La Presse, one of Montréal's foremost French-language newspapers, quoted CAQ leader François Legault  as saying that the province shouldn't be voting PLQ just to get away from separatism, which I have to admit is a compellingreason to do so.

It is true that Legault came from the PQ, but he moved away from it because he felt, quite rightly, I believe, that the notion of an independent Québec is a pipe dream that draws attention away from things that actually matter. Naturally, he wants other PQ members to have the same "awakening" as he did and join him in CAQ. This doesn't mean that separatism will now build in this new party, but rather that people who choose to join it are tired of separatism and have become disillusioned with the PQ. Also, Couillard's talk of a "distinct society" doesn't mean "separation". It's just a Liberal way of saying "Look, we aren't saying Québec should be its o country, but it's foolish to think of it as just another Canadian province, as the cultural differences and history, stretching back hundreds of years, means that there will always be distinctions to be made". While I somewhat agree with this, I guess it all depends on one's definition of "distinct". To me, it's mostly nominal, not a way to go against the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

You're correct in saying that the PLQ is using this angle to win over voters that have at least some separatist sentiment, but if this mollifies everyone enough so that we can get separatism off the freakin' table and move on to practical things, then I'm all for it.


I did see that in the article, I am not saying the PLQ won by themselves, I saw the issues the PQ had for their run up to this, and how they were in the lead till they hit the Separation tag. While Nationalism is still strongish in QC this can lead into Separation if not controlled and regulated. Also I fully agree with François Legault opinion on voting for the PLQ to remove this, since the PLQ was ousted for corruption scandals and now brought in on a knee jerk reaction.

The exact same thing happened in NS when we kicked out the NDP for a majority Liberal party. We ousted them cause of rate increases and failing on tax cuts/bugget reform. They failed horribly in PR, and the Liberals swept in cause the NDP feel on their swords. I am worried that all this will do is put in a new cycle again on divided lines. Maybe CAQ under the leadership of François Legault trying to get away from separatism and work more on building Quebec into a have province, but people will still make the lines to the PQ, and the referendums that was spurned out of it.

For the idea of a distinct society from Couillard, you can say that about any province. The unfortunate problem is Canada revolves around Toronto, back in the day, and now Calgary. That was the big pitch here from our Liberal leader Stephen McNiel, "putting Nova Scotia first." Still to me it plays on the Nationalist pride that can come from some parts of Quebec to a degree. Just as it is to play on the people of Cape Breton, and other areas of Nova Scotia Hell there was even talks of having a "PQ" in Nova Scotia in the provincial levels again (which died) called the Atlantica Party.

I honestly hope you are correct that this will start to ween people off of the movement of separation, since it would be bad from every angle I feel. Still it cannot fully die off until the Boomers are gone, so they will be still plays with this. Hopefully we can see some growth for La belle province after this. I have been there a few times in my life, and have always had Montreal as one of the top places to move to in Canada.
 
2014-04-08 03:01:48 PM  

sendtodave: Savage Bacon: sendtodave: Savage Bacon: sendtodave: Huh.

Today I learned that Canada has politics, too.  Tiny widdle politics.  So adorable!

Yep! We also have more than two parties, because our brains can handle higher numbers!

Daaaaw...

Very good, little guy!  Two IS bigger than one!

But enough about the extent of your knowledge...

"I know you are, but what am I?"

I'm an American.  You know, the guys that invented steaks, adjunct lager, and running the world.

Woooooooo.


Also...

Sarah Palin

Reality television

The Tea Party

Trillion dollar deficits

Too big to fail

The Kardashians

Getting your ass kicked by small Central Asian counties

The KKK

The highest rate of incarceration of it's own people in the world

An average caloric consumption of 3770 per day

Child executions


But, strangely, not Basketball.

And as far as running the world, the Chinese would like to have a quiet  word with you.
 
2014-04-08 04:17:44 PM  
lol quebec is almost as dysfunctionally impotent as america.
 
2014-04-08 07:55:57 PM  

oldfarthenry: I guess the good people of Quebec decided against brown as a shirt colour.  Vous avez choisi à bon escient, mes amis.


Actually, the shirt color was blue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Unity_Party_%28Canada%29
 
2014-04-08 08:10:22 PM  

starsrift: sendtodave: I'm an American.  You know, the guys that invented steaks, adjunct lager, and running the world.

Woooooooo.

I thought that was the French.


Heh. Well, they DO have a better or at least prior claim than the US.
 
2014-04-08 08:46:34 PM  
What makes the outcome really sweet is the fact that the PQ broke their own fixed election date law in order to try & get themselves out of minority status.

Sometimes the hail-Mary strategy works, and the rest of the time you get a boot to the uterus.
 
2014-04-08 09:43:56 PM  

Dorf11: Huh. I thought it was 'money and the ethnic vote'.


You're behind the times. The new Boogeyman is "Rich Muslim McGill Students". And of course, the Jews.

I guess corruption and contempt for freedom of expression are better than outright racism. But then when I started to mock my family members who are still in Quebec about their politics, they reminded me that people who live in glass Torontos shouldn't throw stones.
 
2014-04-08 09:44:18 PM  

daisygrrl: Savage Bacon:  I wouldn't be surprised if Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ) became the Liberal's new opposition in the near future, as it actually focuses on the issues we want to hear about, namely the economy and healthcare.

I can't wait for the CAQ to get more popular. Imagine the election night headlines: "Quebecers prefer CAQ," "CAQ beats off opponents," etc. Yes, it's juvenile, but hey, it's better than all the xenophobia coming out of the PQ.


Other future headlines: "the CAQ faces stiff opposition"  or "the CAQ rams its agenda through"
 
2014-04-08 11:03:26 PM  
Other future headlines: "the CAQ faces stiff opposition"  or "the CAQ rams its agenda through"

"..the CAQ accused of fudging it's figures in the latest budget...."
 
2014-04-09 06:06:41 AM  
The Perils of Pauline Marois.

Leader of a minority government who thought she could be leader of a majority government by calling an early election ends up losing her own seat while her party suffers its worst showing since its very first election in 1970.

A lot of speculation now is over how largely the Charter thingy factored into these results but for my money it was Marois' super candidate Péladeau's fist-pumping pro-sovereignty photo op that was the beginning of the end for them.

Yes, the Liberals have a bad recent track record of corruption in Quebec but it's Quebec for crying out loud.

It's basically like New Jersey only with funnier accents, better beer and hotter women.
 
2014-04-09 10:46:36 AM  
I'm just a stupid American, but my impression of the whole thing is that Quebec is like Canada's version of Texas.

Blow a lot of smoke about how immigrants are bad, and wanting to secede (while gladly accepting federal tax subsidies, by the way), but everyone (including them) knows that if they actually seceded, Quebec would be a third world country in about 10 years.

Am I totally wrong?  Like I said I don't really know, it's just that the rhetoric all sounds so familiar.
 
Displayed 14 of 64 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter






In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report