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2014-04-08 11:06:30 AM  
I hear the Arapahoe National Forest is очень красивый in the Fall.
 
2014-04-08 11:14:43 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-08 11:19:50 AM  
The orange ribbon is for the missing person and the yellow one is for their companion.
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-04-08 11:37:38 AM  
Will they be able to find the black boxes?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-08 11:39:04 AM  

BizarreMan: Will they be able to find the black boxes?


There's no reason to bring their girlfriends into it, you racist.
 
2014-04-08 11:45:55 AM  
echo lake sits below Mt Evans, a 14er.  From Echo Lake trailhead, there are a couple hikes of about 10 miles that go to Chicago Lake and loop back, ranging in elevation from about 10,5 to 11,5.
 
2014-04-08 11:48:15 AM  

SlothB77: echo lake sits below Mt Evans, a 14er.  From Echo Lake trailhead, there are a couple hikes of about 10 miles that go to Chicago Lake and loop back, ranging in elevation from about 10,5 to 11,5.


So where is Calumet?
 
2014-04-08 11:59:24 AM  
"They were hiking and were going to 'scale a peak,' " Barwick said.
...
Searchers did not know what type of clothing and equipment the father and son had.




I'm guessing the insufficient kind
 
2014-04-08 12:00:30 PM  

dittybopper: SlothB77: echo lake sits below Mt Evans, a 14er.  From Echo Lake trailhead, there are a couple hikes of about 10 miles that go to Chicago Lake and loop back, ranging in elevation from about 10,5 to 11,5.

So where is Calumet?


In the baking aisle near the flour and sugar.  But that's not important right now.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-08 12:12:34 PM  

stpauler: The orange ribbon is for the missing person and the yellow one is for their companion.
[i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]


Those ribbon thingys work like magic to recover people.
 
2014-04-08 12:18:34 PM  
Cases like the Donner Party and the missing father and son in Arapahoe National Forest are spurring calls by global safety groups to require better technology to help rescuers and investigators find hikers in remote areas.

"They would have gotten to the Donner Party within probably a half an hour and many of them would have not been eaten if their wagons had systems pinpointing where they got stuck," said Blake van den Heuvel, a director of business development at DRS Technologies Inc., which makes wooden locator devices.

The obstacles to better and mandatory hike tracking are less about technology than whether improvements are worth the cost, since so few hikers disappear, and about whether to upset a decades-old philosophy that hikers should be able to go off the grid if they want to visit mistresses in South America.

"It is absolutely unacceptable in today's day and age to not know where a hiking party is," Dave Barger, chief executive officer of WagonBlue Trailways Corp., said April 3 in an interview on Bloomberg Television.

The quest for solutions sweeps in global regulators, naturalists and trail mix manufacturers. Depending on the enhancements ordered, from real-time satellite monitoring to black boxes that would float if peed on in a sleeping bag, the cost of improvements could be more than $1, far exceeding the costs of the Arapahoe search so far.

Most hikers now are equipped with emergency locator beacons that don't work in the deep forest, and with data recorders whose battery-powered homing signals will last only about 30 Clif bars.

After Appalachian Trail Hike 447 crashed into a line of trees in 2009, killing all 6 hippies participating, it took almost two weeks to find the wreckage.

The lag time prompted accident investigator to urge the United Nations' International Civil Hiking Organization to study hiker-tracking improvements and to ask people to please stop smoking so much pot in the woods.

"Just move to Colorado already and sit in your basements, you stupid jagoffs," said Sandra Marra, chairwoman of the Appalachian Trail Conservancy.
Chair
 
2014-04-08 12:19:12 PM  
I can never remember which syllable you are supposed to emphasize in Arapaho. Is it aRAPaho or araPAho?
 
2014-04-08 12:20:16 PM  
Do they go "ping"?
Only if they fall off the mountain.
 
2014-04-08 12:22:22 PM  
I'm holding a chicken in the air in soldarity...
 
2014-04-08 12:22:54 PM  

whither_apophis: I'm holding a chicken in the air in soldarity...


So you're choking it?
 
2014-04-08 12:22:56 PM  
Arapahoe?

static.guim.co.uk
 
2014-04-08 12:24:58 PM  

vpb: BizarreMan: Will they be able to find the black boxes?

There's no reason to bring their girlfriends into it, you racist.


Rotflmao!! Awesome reply lol
 
2014-04-08 12:25:11 PM  
R.I.P. lost hikers.
 
2014-04-08 12:25:31 PM  
Smart mom.
 
2014-04-08 12:26:56 PM  

I bet the boy wanted to go to Mexico with his mom and sister all along.


This:


www.bigtravelweb.com

Or this?

www.mountainphotography.com
 
2014-04-08 12:26:57 PM  
Since they stumbled onto a well remembered, hidden grow-farm, it will be Autumn before they lose the buzz from such righteous weed. If they said "Getting high" instead of "'scaling a peak," it would be too much of a giveaway.
 
2014-04-08 12:28:04 PM  

cgraves67: I can never remember which syllable you are supposed to emphasize in Arapaho. Is it aRAPaho or araPAho?


Either way, you said rap three times. You must really like rap.
 
2014-04-08 12:28:25 PM  

JoieD'Zen: Those ribbon thingys work like magic to recover people.


That's why I have a magnetic one on the back of my Hummer!  Look, I did it, we aren't in Iraq and longer, and only have 8 more months to go in A-Stan!
 
2014-04-08 12:31:22 PM  
How clearly marked would the trail be this time of year?  How likely is it they just got lost in the middle of the Rockies and never found their way out?
 
2014-04-08 12:31:42 PM  

stpauler: The orange ribbon is for the missing person and the yellow one is for their companion.


Love you!
 
2014-04-08 12:32:05 PM  

99.998er: I bet the boy wanted to go to Mexico with his mom and sister all along.
This:
[www.bigtravelweb.com image 497x331]
Or this?[www.mountainphotography.com image 700x525]


Not to rain on your parade, but the Sawtooth range is not in CO.
 
2014-04-08 12:33:40 PM  

Swampmaster: JoieD'Zen: Those ribbon thingys work like magic to recover people.

That's why I have a magnetic one on the back of my Hummer!  Look, I did it, we aren't in Iraq and longer, and only have 8 more months to go in A-Stan!


Do you know how I know that you have a small penis??
 
2014-04-08 12:36:27 PM  

stpauler: The orange ribbon is for the missing person and the yellow one is for their companion.
[i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]


Great, now the parks department is going to cut that tree down.
 
2014-04-08 12:38:13 PM  
flash2flash.flashgamesplayer.com

SUPER PIMP!!!! 343 m.p.h.
 
2014-04-08 12:38:33 PM  

bikerbob59: Swampmaster: JoieD'Zen: Those ribbon thingys work like magic to recover people.

That's why I have a magnetic one on the back of my Hummer!  Look, I did it, we aren't in Iraq and longer, and only have 8 more months to go in A-Stan!

Do you know how I know that you have a small penis??


Says the guy with the biker handle....
 
2014-04-08 12:39:04 PM  
China claims to have heard their pings but it could have been Wongs.
 
2014-04-08 12:40:50 PM  

probesport: bikerbob59: Swampmaster: JoieD'Zen: Those ribbon thingys work like magic to recover people.

That's why I have a magnetic one on the back of my Hummer!  Look, I did it, we aren't in Iraq and longer, and only have 8 more months to go in A-Stan!

Do you know how I know that you have a small penis??

Says the guy with the biker handle....


touche'!
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-04-08 12:41:43 PM  

probesport: Arapahoe?

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]


Move your bodies, to and fro......

img.fark.net

/not obscure
 
2014-04-08 12:43:05 PM  

FarkingReading: Cases like the Donner Party and the missing father and son in Arapahoe National Forest are spurring calls by global safety groups to require better technology to help rescuers and investigators find hikers in remote areas.

"They would have gotten to the Donner Party within probably a half an hour and many of them would have not been eaten if their wagons had systems pinpointing where they got stuck," said Blake van den Heuvel, a director of business development at DRS Technologies Inc., which makes wooden locator devices.

The obstacles to better and mandatory hike tracking are less about technology than whether improvements are worth the cost, since so few hikers disappear, and about whether to upset a decades-old philosophy that hikers should be able to go off the grid if they want to visit mistresses in South America.

"It is absolutely unacceptable in today's day and age to not know where a hiking party is," Dave Barger, chief executive officer of WagonBlue Trailways Corp., said April 3 in an interview on Bloomberg Television.

The quest for solutions sweeps in global regulators, naturalists and trail mix manufacturers. Depending on the enhancements ordered, from real-time satellite monitoring to black boxes that would float if peed on in a sleeping bag, the cost of improvements could be more than $1, far exceeding the costs of the Arapahoe search so far.

Most hikers now are equipped with emergency locator beacons that don't work in the deep forest, and with data recorders whose battery-powered homing signals will last only about 30 Clif bars.

After Appalachian Trail Hike 447 crashed into a line of trees in 2009, killing all 6 hippies participating, it took almost two weeks to find the wreckage.

The lag time prompted accident investigator to urge the United Nations' International Civil Hiking Organization to study hiker-tracking improvements and to ask people to please stop smoking so much pot in the woods.

"Just move to Colorado already and sit in your bas ...


Oh shiat. My side hurts from laughing
 
2014-04-08 12:43:13 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-08 12:44:27 PM  

dittybopper: SlothB77: echo lake sits below Mt Evans, a 14er.  From Echo Lake trailhead, there are a couple hikes of about 10 miles that go to Chicago Lake and loop back, ranging in elevation from about 10,5 to 11,5.

So where is Calumet?


Is that a subtle Wolverine reference?
 
2014-04-08 12:45:02 PM  
It's amazing how often this happens. Spring in the CO Rockies is really dangerous. March and April are our snowiest months and the weather is very unpredictable. You don't even need precipitation. Just wind alone can cause white out conditions and deposit feet of snow in an hour or two. People come here underestimating the weather and the effects of altitude. The don't have adequate gear, the don't plan for how long it takes to go a mile at altitude, they don't leave a plan with anyone.

If I've learned anything living here it's that you don't fark with the Rockies. Know your shiat, have the right gear, and leave a detailed trip plan with someone. Also, know when to turn back, don't let your ego get in the way.
 
2014-04-08 12:45:50 PM  
Hell, it's still frikkin' Winter up there.
They chose poorly.
 
2014-04-08 12:46:01 PM  

bikerbob59: Swampmaster: JoieD'Zen: Those ribbon thingys work like magic to recover people.

That's why I have a magnetic one on the back of my Hummer!  Look, I did it, we aren't in Iraq and longer, and only have 8 more months to go in A-Stan!

Do you know how I know that you have a small penis??


"Your mom?" Reply in 3..2...1....
 
2014-04-08 12:50:28 PM  

Willie_The_Pimp: It's amazing how often this happens. Spring in the CO Rockies is really dangerous. March and April are our snowiest months and the weather is very unpredictable. You don't even need precipitation. Just wind alone can cause white out conditions and deposit feet of snow in an hour or two. People come here underestimating the weather and the effects of altitude. The don't have adequate gear, the don't plan for how long it takes to go a mile at altitude, they don't leave a plan with anyone.

If I've learned anything living here it's that you don't fark with the Rockies. Know your shiat, have the right gear, and leave a detailed trip plan with someone. Also, know when to turn back, don't let your ego get in the way.


blackberrycreek.typepad.com

'Mountain has got it's own ways pilgrim.'

/can you skin griz?
 
2014-04-08 12:53:00 PM  

Willie_The_Pimp: It's amazing how often this happens. Spring in the CO Rockies is really dangerous. March and April are our snowiest months and the weather is very unpredictable. You don't even need precipitation. Just wind alone can cause white out conditions and deposit feet of snow in an hour or two. People come here underestimating the weather and the effects of altitude. The don't have adequate gear, the don't plan for how long it takes to go a mile at altitude, they don't leave a plan with anyone.

If I've learned anything living here it's that you don't fark with the Rockies. Know your shiat, have the right gear, and leave a detailed trip plan with someone. Also, know when to turn back, don't let your ego get in the way.


Bolded for emphasis.

I'm going to guess a blaze was missed because of the weather.
 
2014-04-08 01:00:34 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: FarkingReading: Cases like the Donner Party and the missing father and son in Arapahoe National Forest are spurring calls by global safety groups to require better technology to help rescuers and investigators find hikers in remote areas.

"They would have gotten to the Donner Party within probably a half an hour and many of them would have not been eaten if their wagons had systems pinpointing where they got stuck," said Blake van den Heuvel, a director of business development at DRS Technologies Inc., which makes wooden locator devices.

The obstacles to better and mandatory hike tracking are less about technology than whether improvements are worth the cost, since so few hikers disappear, and about whether to upset a decades-old philosophy that hikers should be able to go off the grid if they want to visit mistresses in South America.

"It is absolutely unacceptable in today's day and age to not know where a hiking party is," Dave Barger, chief executive officer of WagonBlue Trailways Corp., said April 3 in an interview on Bloomberg Television.

The quest for solutions sweeps in global regulators, naturalists and trail mix manufacturers. Depending on the enhancements ordered, from real-time satellite monitoring to black boxes that would float if peed on in a sleeping bag, the cost of improvements could be more than $1, far exceeding the costs of the Arapahoe search so far.

Most hikers now are equipped with emergency locator beacons that don't work in the deep forest, and with data recorders whose battery-powered homing signals will last only about 30 Clif bars.

After Appalachian Trail Hike 447 crashed into a line of trees in 2009, killing all 6 hippies participating, it took almost two weeks to find the wreckage.

The lag time prompted accident investigator to urge the United Nations' International Civil Hiking Organization to study hiker-tracking improvements and to ask people to please stop smoking so much pot in the woods.

"Just move to Colorado already and ...


Thanks. I'm a little miffed at my typos, but I was typing pretty fast.
 
2014-04-08 01:00:48 PM  

fastfxr: dittybopper: SlothB77: echo lake sits below Mt Evans, a 14er.  From Echo Lake trailhead, there are a couple hikes of about 10 miles that go to Chicago Lake and loop back, ranging in elevation from about 10,5 to 11,5.

So where is Calumet?

Is that a subtle Wolverine reference?


Wait, you thought that was *SUBTLE*?

No, my titties at the beginning of the thread is subtle.  Well, even then, not all that subtle.
 
2014-04-08 01:03:58 PM  

99.998er: I bet the boy wanted to go to Mexico with his mom and sister all along.
This:
[www.bigtravelweb.com image 497x331]
Or this?[www.mountainphotography.com image 700x525]


I would have chosen the 'grand Tetons'.... as should any red blooded male.
 
2014-04-08 01:07:01 PM  
I'm taking notes in this thread. I love to camp/hike and am moving to Denver in three weeks. Went to Cumberland Gap last year and covered about 17 miles in 3 days, up about 2500 feet (I think, have to look it up later) Had a blast, carried all my supplies on my back and slept in a hammock. Would love to do it a lot more once I move.

That said, I am not afraid to take it easy and over prepare for safety. The wilderness is fun, but I never want to become a lost hiker on the news. Keep pouring advice, people, it could save my life one day.
 
2014-04-08 01:08:08 PM  

Willie_The_Pimp: It's amazing how often this happens. Spring in the CO Rockies is really dangerous. March and April are our snowiest months and the weather is very unpredictable. You don't even need precipitation. Just wind alone can cause white out conditions and deposit feet of snow in an hour or two. People come here underestimating the weather and the effects of altitude. The don't have adequate gear, the don't plan for how long it takes to go a mile at altitude, they don't leave a plan with anyone.

If I've learned anything living here it's that you don't fark with the Rockies. Know your shiat, have the right gear, and leave a detailed trip plan with someone. Also, know when to turn back, don't let your ego get in the way.


Absolutely

And one of these isn't a bad idea either: http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=100
Or at least one of these: http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-Dual-Band-Improved-Stronger-Enhanced/dp / B00C83AU9S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396976750&sr=8-1&keywords=baofeng

Repeater coverage is pretty good here - they could probably hit the Empire station from a north face.
 
2014-04-08 01:08:57 PM  
Lois Einhorn?
 
2014-04-08 01:12:59 PM  

Mentalpatient87: I'm taking notes in this thread. I love to camp/hike and am moving to Denver in three weeks. Went to Cumberland Gap last year and covered about 17 miles in 3 days, up about 2500 feet (I think, have to look it up later) Had a blast, carried all my supplies on my back and slept in a hammock. Would love to do it a lot more once I move.

That said, I am not afraid to take it easy and over prepare for safety. The wilderness is fun, but I never want to become a lost hiker on the news. Keep pouring advice, people, it could save my life one day.


Check out the Colorado Mountain Club www.cmc.org They have a lot of great classes for pretty cheap and it's a fun community.
 
2014-04-08 01:18:27 PM  

Sofa King Smart: 99.998er: I bet the boy wanted to go to Mexico with his mom and sister all along.
This:
[www.bigtravelweb.com image 497x331]
Or this?[www.mountainphotography.com image 700x525]

I would have chosen the 'grand Tetons'.... as should any red blooded male.


Sawtooth range, actually. Although bikerbob already covered that.

That being said, trying to scale a peak before late May is just asking for trouble in the Rockies. Especially the Colorado peaks, the weather is far more unstable than further north or south on the range. Add that to the chance of trails and trailheads being washed out or collapsing from the winter precipitation melting and the chance of both happening because of the crazy precipitation patterns that you often see in early to mid spring, it doesn't matter if you've got the right gear or not. Doing so without and EPIRB is suicidal, plain and simple.

These guys are likely dead, and they owe it to themselves.
 
2014-04-08 01:25:14 PM  
You know how I know you're going to hell, Subby?

/LMAO
 
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