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7171 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 08 Apr 2014 at 10:21 AM (20 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-04-08 10:41:58 AM
If'n ya don't pay for it, they ain't a gonna make it. Dig?
 
2014-04-08 10:57:36 AM
 
2014-04-08 11:04:30 AM
Speaking of the Hobbit, I'm really looking forward to the inevitable sub two hour fan edit.
 
2014-04-08 11:15:07 AM
As expected, the lesson of iTunes is completely lost. Make it easy to get access, and anyone that was going to pay, will choose to pay.

Personally I am willing to pay to stream:
$20 for watching a current movie in my home instead of theaters
$10/mth for current season cable series (HBO, etc)

Happily paying:
Netflix
Hulu Plus
NHL Gamecenter
 
2014-04-08 11:15:08 AM
He always reminds of me an adult Eric Cartman.
 
2014-04-08 11:35:08 AM

miniflea: Speaking of the Hobbit, I'm really looking forward to the inevitable sub two hour fan edit.


Two might be pushing it, but there's probably a good 3-4 hour movie in there somewhere.
 
2014-04-08 11:45:46 AM

Schmerd1948: If'n ya don't pay for it, they ain't a gonna make it. Dig?


They'll make this sh*t whether we want it or not.

Proof: Sharknado
 
2014-04-08 11:47:50 AM

CommonName2: $20 for watching a current movie in my home instead of theaters


I don't see that happening for the majority of film releases... Even for $30, or $50. Reasons being, it will be almost impossible to stop piracy (and now, people will have actual release-version movies Day 1, and not versions with missing music, CGI, Russian subtitles or camcorder copies), and the movie theater industry can just as easily say "you do that, and we won't show your movie in our theaters". After all, NATO is more than just an international group.
 
2014-04-08 11:56:23 AM

RoxtarRyan: CommonName2: $20 for watching a current movie in my home instead of theaters

I don't see that happening for the majority of film releases... Even for $30, or $50. Reasons being, it will be almost impossible to stop piracy (and now, people will have actual release-version movies Day 1, and not versions with missing music, CGI, Russian subtitles or camcorder copies), and the movie theater industry can just as easily say "you do that, and we won't show your movie in our theaters". After all, NATO is more than just an international group.


True, which is why, when I think of having that, I am also surrounded by naked supermodels. As long as I am dreaming anyway ...
 
2014-04-08 12:20:27 PM

CommonName2: $20 for watching a current movie in my home instead of theaters


Please don't give the cable companies an excuse to think that they can raise prices for streaming video. I know you're talking about movies that are still in the theater (or would be released first directly to stream), but that's 4 times what they're charging for a streaming rental, which is already more than you'd pay through netflix, and double the cost of a theater ticket.
 
2014-04-08 12:37:27 PM
Maybe it's hypocritical, but here's my view: If you cannot buy it, and someone is willing to give it to you, it is not stealing or even piracy, so long as it's not a physical product; however, the digital line between outright piracy of new shows and games and the preservation of the old in those medias is currently blurring.

What that dude did was straight-up piracy that absolutely cost companies monies they should not have lost.

Again, I'm a hypocrite because it's highly unlikely I have never streamed (never a big movie downloader) one of the films he "hosted" or shared or pirated en masse as we all know.

So, go easy on him, but he is not a creator of anything and should not be treated as some super nerd or some type of hero. He is not.

tl;dr? If you gave it the best college try to buy it, but cannot find it...well...if someone is willing to give you a copy, I'm hard pressed to find a true moral failing, or even a legal one.

This does not apply if one disagrees with the price.
 
2014-04-08 12:39:51 PM
Was that an article about piracy? Or a commercial for The Hobbit.
 
2014-04-08 01:10:06 PM

Lord_Dubu: Was that an article about piracy? Or a commercial for The Hobbit.


A movie that wasn't even close to release when MegaUpload was alive.    PrePiracy?
 
2014-04-08 01:16:40 PM
Okay, but how does Kim Possible feel?
 
2014-04-08 01:19:19 PM

CommonName2: As expected, the lesson of iTunes is completely lost. Make it easy to get access, and anyone that was going to pay, will choose to pay.

Personally I am willing to pay to stream:
$20 for watching a current movie in my home instead of theaters
$10/mth for current season cable series (HBO, etc)

Happily paying:
Netflix
Hulu Plus
NHL Gamecenter


I'd pay $35/month to stream all of Netflix's content. Another $10/month for HBO
Right now paying for:
Netflix
Amazon Prime
MLB.TV
 
2014-04-08 01:26:52 PM
TV's Vinnie. Sharknado cost maybe elevendy seven cents. The Hobbit movies quite a bit more. As a working musician, I like to get paid for my output. I don't want a yacht, just an occasional t-bone. With potato.
 
2014-04-08 02:12:35 PM
This Dotcom is still pretty mega.
thumbnails.hulu.com
Maybe someday, we'll live in a world where you ask us to pretend to be scientists.
 
2014-04-08 02:14:52 PM
1. 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' (8.4 million downloads)
2. 'Django Unchained' (8.1 million downloads)
3. 'Fast & Furious 6' (7.9 million downloads)
4. 'Iron Man 3' (7.6 million downloads)
5. Silver Linings Playbook (7.5 million downloads)
6. 'Star Trek Into Darkness' (7.4 million downloads)
7. 'Gangster Squad' (7.2 million downloads)
8. 'Now You See Me' (7 million downloads)
9. 'The Hangover Part III' (6.9 million downloads)
10. 'World War Z' (6.7 million downloads)


DL them all. The only ones I enjoyed was Hobbit, Star Trek and Django. So I bought the DVDs.
 
2014-04-08 02:16:40 PM

SurfaceTension: MLB.TV


Best sports entertainment value out there. Seriously.

Maybe one day the NFL will catch up.
 
2014-04-08 02:28:33 PM
Good, the guy is a criminal.
 
2014-04-08 02:38:41 PM

barneyfifesbullet: 1. 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' (8.4 million downloads)
2. 'Django Unchained' (8.1 million downloads)
3. 'Fast & Furious 6' (7.9 million downloads)
4. 'Iron Man 3' (7.6 million downloads)
5. Silver Linings Playbook (7.5 million downloads)
6. 'Star Trek Into Darkness' (7.4 million downloads)
7. 'Gangster Squad' (7.2 million downloads)
8. 'Now You See Me' (7 million downloads)
9. 'The Hangover Part III' (6.9 million downloads)
10. 'World War Z' (6.7 million downloads)

DL them all. The only ones I enjoyed was Hobbit, Star Trek and Django. So I bought the DVDs.


Yep, I got This is the End on Blu Ray, cause the movie was so funny on the pirated copy I got.  I think I have all of those dl, but have only seen Iron Man 3, and it was OK. Saw that in theaters though.
 
2014-04-08 02:53:47 PM

barneyfifesbullet: SurfaceTension: MLB.TV

Best sports entertainment value out there. Seriously.

Maybe one day the NFL will catch up.


Only drawbacks are local games are blacked out (but most folks can watch them alternately) and they black out national games on Saturdays because of Fox.

But you're right, you'd think the NFL would learn a thing or two. DirectTV only for Season Ticket? Give me a break!
 
2014-04-08 03:16:51 PM
Someone told me once about their code for downloading non music (TV and Movies) digital content (this person subscribes to all the usual premium channels).

- If you can see it on one of the channels you already subscribe to, but not at a time or place or on a platform of your choosing.

- If you can PVR it and skip through the commercials anyway.

- If it is not available to you where you live.

- If it is a series or movie that is not available to you through convenient channels or methods (ie you don't have to buy a used copy on e-bay, wait three weeks and find out it is some crappy scratched up piece of junk).

then they have no moral qualms about downloading it.  Seemed to make more than a little sense at the time.
 
2014-04-08 04:04:23 PM

John the Magnificent: Someone told me once about their code for downloading non music (TV and Movies) digital content (this person subscribes to all the usual premium channels).

- If you can see it on one of the channels you already subscribe to, but not at a time or place or on a platform of your choosing.

- If you can PVR it and skip through the commercials anyway.

- If it is not available to you where you live.

- If it is a series or movie that is not available to you through convenient channels or methods (ie you don't have to buy a used copy on e-bay, wait three weeks and find out it is some crappy scratched up piece of junk).

then they have no moral qualms about downloading it.  Seemed to make more than a little sense at the time.


It sounds like that all boils down to this: "If it's not available to me whenever or however I want to see it at my convenience, I'll download for free what other people are paying for."

That's not morality, that's rationalization. That's saying that it's ok to steal under certain specific circumstances that are so general that every possible contingent need of his is met and he's not even slightly inconvenienced (other than the effort to download it; he has my deepest sympathy).
 
2014-04-08 04:19:01 PM
i never saw any reason to use Megaupload for anything. who wants to bother with that shiat when you can torrent anything faster?
 
2014-04-08 04:23:52 PM

barneyfifesbullet: 1. 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' (8.4 million downloads)
2. 'Django Unchained' (8.1 million downloads)
3. 'Fast & Furious 6' (7.9 million downloads)
4. 'Iron Man 3' (7.6 million downloads)
5. Silver Linings Playbook (7.5 million downloads)
6. 'Star Trek Into Darkness' (7.4 million downloads)
7. 'Gangster Squad' (7.2 million downloads)
8. 'Now You See Me' (7 million downloads)
9. 'The Hangover Part III' (6.9 million downloads)
10. 'World War Z' (6.7 million downloads)

DL them all. The only ones I enjoyed was Hobbit, Star Trek and Django. So I bought the DVDs.


Aren't you cool Mr Thiefy Thief.
 
2014-04-08 05:29:27 PM

John the Magnificent: Someone told me once about their code for downloading non music (TV and Movies) digital content (this person subscribes to all the usual premium channels).

- If you can see it on one of the channels you already subscribe to, but not at a time or place or on a platform of your choosing.

- If you can PVR it and skip through the commercials anyway.

- If it is not available to you where you live.

- If it is a series or movie that is not available to you through convenient channels or methods (ie you don't have to buy a used copy on e-bay, wait three weeks and find out it is some crappy scratched up piece of junk).

then they have no moral qualms about downloading it.  Seemed to make more than a little sense at the time.



Mostly works for me.

My general rule is if it has been broadcast for free anywhere in the world or it is something I have already purchased, It's torrent-able.
 
2014-04-08 05:38:18 PM
Kim's actually a pretty cool guy.

Yeah, I gotta agree here. There are things about him that I don't like. But all in all, he seems pretty cool. I've used Mega for some downloading (patch files if I remember correctly) and I was impressed by the service.

I'd like to see some tools from Mega regarding phone and chat services. They could make a killing there. Kim has the brand reputation and has a vested interest in creating an ubiquotous encrypted chat application across all platforms.
 
2014-04-08 06:05:24 PM

HighZoolander: John the Magnificent: Someone told me once about their code for downloading non music (TV and Movies) digital content (this person subscribes to all the usual premium channels).

- If you can see it on one of the channels you already subscribe to, but not at a time or place or on a platform of your choosing.

- If you can PVR it and skip through the commercials anyway.

- If it is not available to you where you live.

- If it is a series or movie that is not available to you through convenient channels or methods (ie you don't have to buy a used copy on e-bay, wait three weeks and find out it is some crappy scratched up piece of junk).

then they have no moral qualms about downloading it.  Seemed to make more than a little sense at the time.

It sounds like that all boils down to this: "If it's not available to me whenever or however I want to see it at my convenience, I'll download for free what other people are paying for."

That's not morality, that's rationalization. That's saying that it's ok to steal under certain specific circumstances that are so general that every possible contingent need of his is met and he's not even slightly inconvenienced (other than the effort to download it; he has my deepest sympathy).


Maybe I didn't explain it well (or maybe your knee was jerking so rapidly it was hard for you to focus).

The concept was that, IF you have already paid for it on another platform (hence the subscriptions to HBO etc), or IF it was already available for free on cable (again, that was paid for) and the commercials on cable could be avoided anyway by using perfectly legal means that are actually promoted by the cable companies (see: The Hopper) or IF it was not available through other means (ie the rights owners thought it was just not profitable enough to make it available to the public, so they lock it in a vault and sally forth witch a hearty FARK YOU!) then this person had no qualms.

Better?
 
2014-04-08 08:20:08 PM
Meh, it's not stealing so much as efficient borrowing/lending, imo.

I wish we could establish some rule so that the internet is treated as a library.  I'd pay extra $ on my internet bill for the right to download whatever is also available in libraries(ie out of theaters).

Then again, I always loved the library, and what it stands for, or rather, what they stood for.

Sad to see those sentiments die with accusations of theft of intellectual property and such.
 
2014-04-08 10:58:30 PM
sounds like it's just movies

i never dl'd a movie from megaupload
 
2014-04-09 02:56:43 AM

CommonName2: As expected, the lesson of iTunes is completely lost. Make it easy to get access, and anyone that was going to pay, will choose to pay.


Sounds like you haven't learned the lesson of iTunes: it sucks.

/bazinga
//Netflix, Amazon, Vudu all work on a wide variety of devices, not just iCrap
 
2014-04-09 08:46:10 AM
Apparently he is still feeling pretty Mega.
 
2014-04-09 03:18:02 PM
Kim Dotcom sounds like a bad Disney Channel cartoon.
 
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