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2014-04-08 08:52:57 AM  
Crank it, spank it, smack it on the bing-bong!
 
2014-04-08 10:23:55 AM  
"I don't go by that name anymore. I prefer to be called Doctor or Doctor Mix-a-lot. Now please, I need to take your measurements prior to the surgery. Hmm. 5'9, measuring 36-24-36. Disappointing. Nurses, I'm afraid it's going to be a long day."
 
2014-04-08 10:27:03 AM  
The important thing to remember here is that it isn't gay if you say "good game"
 
2014-04-08 10:31:11 AM  
Last year I had two surgeries, and both times there was a whole team of people.  It's hard to imagine that someone would get out-of-line and risk his career in front of so many witnesses, yet I've always wondered about that red mark across my ass after I woke up - especially since it was my shoulder being operated on.
 
2014-04-08 10:32:01 AM  
What's even scarier is the comments...

Nothing new here friends...when I was a student nurse and had to follow designated patients into surgery, I received the surprises of my life in the operating room. Sterile environment....maybe. But open season for jokes, playing around, and many other things. One gynecologist would loudly deride his female patient's genitalia, saying such crude things, as "Man, looks like a Mack truck's been driving through here...Well I'm going to sew it up so tightly and crudely that she's not going to want any more trucks going in there...it'll be too painful from now on." I heard lots, and saw even more. Saw janitorial employees peeping through the doors, laughing and snickering, observing the patients nudity. Certainly that does not mean it happens everywhere, but I will always believe that once you go under, you will never have knowledge of what all has been done to you, or whom all has done it.
 
2014-04-08 10:34:59 AM  
Whatever happened to bedside manners? I swear the new crop of doctors have the biggest farking egotistical gods and act like they are untouchable douche bags.
 
2014-04-08 10:38:34 AM  

MassAsster: What's even scarier is the comments...

Nothing new here friends...when I was a student nurse and had to follow designated patients into surgery, I received the surprises of my life in the operating room. Sterile environment....maybe. But open season for jokes, playing around, and many other things. One gynecologist would loudly deride his female patient's genitalia, saying such crude things, as "Man, looks like a Mack truck's been driving through here...Well I'm going to sew it up so tightly and crudely that she's not going to want any more trucks going in there...it'll be too painful from now on." I heard lots, and saw even more. Saw janitorial employees peeping through the doors, laughing and snickering, observing the patients nudity. Certainly that does not mean it happens everywhere, but I will always believe that once you go under, you will never have knowledge of what all has been done to you, or whom all has done it.


Did you ever report this?
 
2014-04-08 10:39:26 AM  
Additionally, "Three staff members told investigators the doctor called patients names, such as 'fat ___ ,' while slapping them hard. One staffer described seeing the doctor 'almost wind up' to deliver the slap to a patient. Another said the slaps seemed to be done as a gesture to say 'let's get this procedure going.'"

Now let's not all rush to judgement. The therapeutic benefits of pre-operative ass-slapping are not definitive and require more study. Preferably with Brazilian women.
 
2014-04-08 10:39:55 AM  

alice_600: MassAsster: What's even scarier is the comments...

Nothing new here friends...when I was a student nurse and had to follow designated patients into surgery, I received the surprises of my life in the operating room. Sterile environment....maybe. But open season for jokes, playing around, and many other things. One gynecologist would loudly deride his female patient's genitalia, saying such crude things, as "Man, looks like a Mack truck's been driving through here...Well I'm going to sew it up so tightly and crudely that she's not going to want any more trucks going in there...it'll be too painful from now on." I heard lots, and saw even more. Saw janitorial employees peeping through the doors, laughing and snickering, observing the patients nudity. Certainly that does not mean it happens everywhere, but I will always believe that once you go under, you will never have knowledge of what all has been done to you, or whom all has done it.

Did you ever report this?


Was a quote from the comments section, not I . But feel free to ask him/her
 
2014-04-08 10:40:56 AM  
When I was put under the doctor shoved a camera up my ass and took pictures, I know cause he showed them to me... it's assholes all the way though!
 
2014-04-08 10:41:31 AM  
many health care 'professionals' are douchebags.  hard not to be when you see all the cash they're making as they suck this Nation dry.
 
2014-04-08 10:43:16 AM  
What about newborn babies?
 
2014-04-08 10:43:25 AM  

Linux_Yes: many health care 'professionals' are douchebags.  hard not to be when you see all the cash they're making as they suck this Nation dry.



many are arrogant too.  'murican society has convinced them they are god and can heal.  the truth is that the body does the healing, they just assist the body (and sometimes make it worse)
 
2014-04-08 10:44:12 AM  

neversubmit: When I was put under the doctor shoved a camera up my ass and took pictures, I know cause he showed them to me... it's assholes all the way though!



lets hope he didn't take any home to crank off to.
 
2014-04-08 10:44:17 AM  

neversubmit: When I was put under the doctor shoved a camera up my ass and took pictures, I know cause he showed them to me... it's assholes all the way though threw down!


damn it all
 
2014-04-08 10:47:38 AM  

fireclown: The important thing to remember here is that it isn't gay if you say "good game"



*chuckle*
 
2014-04-08 10:48:51 AM  

ChrisDe: What about newborn babies?



img.fark.net
 
2014-04-08 10:49:48 AM  
Ehh, if a slap on the ass and a joke about how hairy my balls are is as far as it goes, I don't feel the outrage.

/probably going farther than that
//which is bad
 
2014-04-08 10:49:56 AM  

MassAsster: What's even scarier is the comments...

Nothing new here friends...when I was a student nurse and had to follow designated patients into surgery, I received the surprises of my life in the operating room. Sterile environment....maybe. But open season for jokes, playing around, and many other things. One gynecologist would loudly deride his female patient's genitalia, saying such crude things, as "Man, looks like a Mack truck's been driving through here...Well I'm going to sew it up so tightly and crudely that she's not going to want any more trucks going in there...it'll be too painful from now on." I heard lots, and saw even more. Saw janitorial employees peeping through the doors, laughing and snickering, observing the patients nudity. Certainly that does not mean it happens everywhere, but I will always believe that once you go under, you will never have knowledge of what all has been done to you, or whom all has done it.


So a semi-conscious beej is right off?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/dr-george-doodnaught-victim-re ca lls-anesthesiologist-s-attack-1.2559010

Yeah, ick factor at 11 right there.
 
2014-04-08 10:51:35 AM  

neversubmit: When I was put under the doctor shoved a camera up my ass and took pictures, I know cause he showed them to me... it's assholes all the way though!


Pro-tip: Do not make the protologist laugh with jokes like "up periscope on Das Bootie" or "wicked handling on that first left turn!" It neither speeds the procedure nor makes it easier.
 
2014-04-08 10:53:15 AM  

fireclown: The important thing to remember here is that it isn't gay if you say "good game"


well... its not like you can 'high-five' a patient that's completely out...  how else are you gonna 'celebrate' a job well done?
 
2014-04-08 10:55:28 AM  
I feel this is oblig:

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2014-04-08 10:56:00 AM  
I've played enough surgeon simulator 2013 to know the importance of slapping unconscious people around.
 
2014-04-08 11:02:55 AM  
I love the guy's profile pic. Total ass slapper.
 
2014-04-08 11:03:31 AM  
If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
 
2014-04-08 11:05:54 AM  
Well, the same hospital in Silver City, NM that had the anal probe lawsuit also had an ear nose and throat surgeon doing unnecesary "genital exams" on male patients while under anesthesia: http://www.nurse-anesthesia.org/archive/index.php/t-9187.html">http:/ /www.nurse-anesthesia.org/archive/index.php/t-9187.html

(The anal probe doctors apparently aren't going to be disciplined by the state medical board since it's been over a year since the incident and still nothing has been done.  Good to see that unprofessional and unethical conduct is a-ok as long as you are just following an illegal court order.)
 
2014-04-08 11:05:55 AM  
Glad to see the WebMD medical corps chiming in with their jealousy of people with fancy "degrees."
 
2014-04-08 11:06:59 AM  

Linux_Yes: many health care 'professionals' are douchebags. hard not to be when you see all the cash they're making as they suck this Nation dry.


Remember paying doctors is about 10% of healthcare costs.
 
Skr
2014-04-08 11:12:09 AM  
Perfect way to find out if they are properly sedated or just faking.
 
2014-04-08 11:15:14 AM  

Linux_Yes: neversubmit: When I was put under the doctor shoved a camera up my ass and took pictures, I know cause he showed them to me... it's assholes all the way though!


lets hope he didn't take any home to crank off to.


I wouldn't mind one bit :)
 
2014-04-08 11:16:30 AM  

Fano: Glad to see the WebMD medical corps chiming in with their jealousy of people with fancy "degrees."


People without fancy "degrees" are not allowed to say what's inappropriate when done to them! Take THAT semi-informed America!
 
2014-04-08 11:16:35 AM  

neversubmit: When I was put under the doctor shoved a camera up my ass and took pictures, I know cause he showed them to me... it's assholes all the way though!


THIS!

I got a page of glossy 4x6's to prove all of my friends wrong. I am NOT full of shiat.
 
2014-04-08 11:23:28 AM  
This is St Joes. The same hospital where the dead woman woke up on the ER table right before they harvested her organs for transplant.

Once upon a time, St. Joes was considered a Really Good Hospital. Nowdays, not so much.
 
2014-04-08 11:24:38 AM  

namegoeshere: This is St Joes. The same hospital where the dead woman woke up on the  ER table right before they harvested her organs for transplant.

Once upon a time, St. Joes was considered a Really Good Hospital. Nowdays, not so much.


OR. Dammit. Operating Room. Even scarier.
 
2014-04-08 11:24:41 AM  

Valiente: MassAsster: What's even scarier is the comments...

Nothing new here friends...when I was a student nurse and had to follow designated patients into surgery, I received the surprises of my life in the operating room. Sterile environment....maybe. But open season for jokes, playing around, and many other things. One gynecologist would loudly deride his female patient's genitalia, saying such crude things, as "Man, looks like a Mack truck's been driving through here...Well I'm going to sew it up so tightly and crudely that she's not going to want any more trucks going in there...it'll be too painful from now on." I heard lots, and saw even more. Saw janitorial employees peeping through the doors, laughing and snickering, observing the patients nudity. Certainly that does not mean it happens everywhere, but I will always believe that once you go under, you will never have knowledge of what all has been done to you, or whom all has done it.

So a semi-conscious beej is right off?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/dr-george-doodnaught-victim-re ca lls-anesthesiologist-s-attack-1.2559010

Yeah, ick factor at 11 right there.


The Dood does not abide
 
2014-04-08 11:25:42 AM  
I have no issues with a joke or a butt slap while I am out.

Really so long as things stay sterile and don't involve rape, have fun.

Ymmv.
 
2014-04-08 11:27:21 AM  

Smackledorfer: I have no issues with a joke or a butt slap while I am out.

Really so long as things stay sterile and don't involve rape, have fun.

Ymmv.


Sometimes in Farkistan, logins are particularly appropriate.
 
2014-04-08 11:29:25 AM  

namegoeshere: This is St Joes. The same hospital where the dead woman woke up on the ER table right before they harvested her organs for transplant.

Once upon a time, St. Joes was considered a Really Good Hospital. Nowdays, not so much.


Out of curiosity, was there a change in management?  Generally quality doesn't fall this hard and fast without some sort of change.  Or is it just the natural descent into chaos from too many people being there for long periods of time becoming too established in bad habits?
 
2014-04-08 11:30:47 AM  
explosm.net
 
2014-04-08 11:31:18 AM  

neversubmit: Linux_Yes: neversubmit: When I was put under the doctor shoved a camera up my ass and took pictures, I know cause he showed them to me... it's assholes all the way though!


lets hope he didn't take any home to crank off to.

I wouldn't mind one bit :)


lol
 
2014-04-08 11:32:25 AM  

gibbon1: Linux_Yes: many health care 'professionals' are douchebags. hard not to be when you see all the cash they're making as they suck this Nation dry.

Remember paying doctors is about 10% of healthcare costs.



true.  the Hospital execs, Drug companies, insurance companies, etc. are sucking all the cash up.
 
2014-04-08 11:33:17 AM  
Ah yes, bring on the doctor hate.

As I am sitting here because HALF of my patients did now show up to clinic this morning -- and wishing I was in the ICU seeing my truly sick patients -- it's refreshing to see that a few bad actors can trigger hate for an entire profession who no longer rakes in the big bucks of the 1980s, is mired in paperwork, and still works long hours to pay off big loans.

I suppose I have nothing to complain about in terms of colleagues, interesting cases, okay money, and knowing I'm doing good working to heal an inner-city population. (I drive a 2003 Subaru Legacy, BTW, and could finally afford home ownership past age 40.)

Although I consider an eleven-hour workday short, and am happy to only work two weekend days per month. Spent probably four hours total this past week wrestling with insurance companies to pay for two CT scans and one expensive antibiotic (oh yeah, can't get paid for that time). And I know I will never get paid for a lot of the hospital work I do, since I have no idea if the ICU patient I'm seeing has any insurance or not. And don't care, since they need to be seen.

Yes, you may have run into individual docs who are douchebags. But most of us would have made more money doing something else, and are motivated by genuine interest or a desire to help.

If you get attitude from them, did you look at your own behavior first? 'Cos I'm nice to everyone who's nice to me, you know?

/Hey Linux_Yes, did you ever save someone's life?
 
2014-04-08 11:38:05 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: namegoeshere: This is St Joes. The same hospital where the dead woman woke up on the ER table right before they harvested her organs for transplant.

Once upon a time, St. Joes was considered a Really Good Hospital. Nowdays, not so much.

Out of curiosity, was there a change in management?  Generally quality doesn't fall this hard and fast without some sort of change.  Or is it just the natural descent into chaos from too many people being there for long periods of time becoming too established in bad habits?


I'm not sure, but there was nothing terribly newsworthy. Two other local hospitals merged (actually the large one ate up the smaller one) but St Joes was not a part of that.

What scares me is the idea that this shiat happens everywhere, and we're just hearing about it at this hospital.
 
2014-04-08 11:39:52 AM  
So I guess teasbagging them is out too?
 
2014-04-08 11:57:56 AM  

lake_huron: Ah yes, bring on the doctor hate.

As I am sitting here because HALF of my patients did now show up to clinic this morning -- and wishing I was in the ICU seeing my truly sick patients -- it's refreshing to see that a few bad actors can trigger hate for an entire profession who no longer rakes in the big bucks of the 1980s, is mired in paperwork, and still works long hours to pay off big loans.

I suppose I have nothing to complain about in terms of colleagues, interesting cases, okay money, and knowing I'm doing good working to heal an inner-city population. (I drive a 2003 Subaru Legacy, BTW, and could finally afford home ownership past age 40.)

Although I consider an eleven-hour workday short, and am happy to only work two weekend days per month. Spent probably four hours total this past week wrestling with insurance companies to pay for two CT scans and one expensive antibiotic (oh yeah, can't get paid for that time). And I know I will never get paid for a lot of the hospital work I do, since I have no idea if the ICU patient I'm seeing has any insurance or not. And don't care, since they need to be seen.

Yes, you may have run into individual docs who are douchebags. But most of us would have made more money doing something else, and are motivated by genuine interest or a desire to help.

If you get attitude from them, did you look at your own behavior first? 'Cos I'm nice to everyone who's nice to me, you know?

/Hey Linux_Yes, did you ever save someone's life?


You sound....douchy.  Perhaps you should get back to your important, life-saving work rather than wasting time on Fark.

/Just because your are a decent doc doesn't mean you can't also be a self-important douche.
 
2014-04-08 12:03:32 PM  

lake_huron: Ah yes, bring on the doctor hate.


I don't think there's really that much doctor hate here.

lake_huron: a few bad actors can trigger hate for an entire profession


I don't think there's hate for an entire profession.  One thing I have noticed is that I have never found a way to group people that doesn't include dipshiats.  College students?  Full of dipshiats.  Graduate students?  Full of dipshiats.  College professors?  Full of dipshiats.  Medical Doctors?  Full of dipshiats.  This guy is one of the dipshiats.  Fark.com?  Full of dipshiats -- hi Linux_Yes!  Here, a few bad actors (Linux_Yes) does not represent hate for an entire profession.
 
2014-04-08 12:06:06 PM  

Graffito: lake_huron: Ah yes, bring on the doctor hate.

As I am sitting here because HALF of my patients did now show up to clinic this morning -- and wishing I was in the ICU seeing my truly sick patients -- it's refreshing to see that a few bad actors can trigger hate for an entire profession who no longer rakes in the big bucks of the 1980s, is mired in paperwork, and still works long hours to pay off big loans.

I suppose I have nothing to complain about in terms of colleagues, interesting cases, okay money, and knowing I'm doing good working to heal an inner-city population. (I drive a 2003 Subaru Legacy, BTW, and could finally afford home ownership past age 40.)

Although I consider an eleven-hour workday short, and am happy to only work two weekend days per month. Spent probably four hours total this past week wrestling with insurance companies to pay for two CT scans and one expensive antibiotic (oh yeah, can't get paid for that time). And I know I will never get paid for a lot of the hospital work I do, since I have no idea if the ICU patient I'm seeing has any insurance or not. And don't care, since they need to be seen.

Yes, you may have run into individual docs who are douchebags. But most of us would have made more money doing something else, and are motivated by genuine interest or a desire to help.

If you get attitude from them, did you look at your own behavior first? 'Cos I'm nice to everyone who's nice to me, you know?

/Hey Linux_Yes, did you ever save someone's life?

You sound....douchy.  Perhaps you should get back to your important, life-saving work rather than wasting time on Fark.

/Just because your are a decent doc doesn't mean you can't also be a self-important douche.


I'm curious as to which part of his post you felt made him sound douchey.  Because all I got from your post was that you're a insecure douche who felt the need to bring him down in order to build yourself up.
 
2014-04-08 12:09:12 PM  
They don't hate their jobs.  Just lettin' off steam.  Don't hate.
 
2014-04-08 12:09:30 PM  

Skr: Perfect way to find out if they are properly sedated or just faking.


Eh, the way I see it (and especially if I'm having invasive surgery), that surgeon is going to be inside me fiddlin' with organs, arteries and other shiat. Slapping my ass to have a quick joke or see if I'm really out? Fark it. Harmless as an auto mechanic writing "wash me" on the back window right before he takes apart the engine.

/oh, and giggity. there was a lot of giggity in this post.
 
2014-04-08 12:13:16 PM  

Graffito: You sound....douchy.  Perhaps you should get back to your important, life-saving work rather than wasting time on Fark.


Sorry, but Linux_Yes makes me stabby in pretty much every forum.  Plus I'm tired, have had days much longer than the 11 hours I whined about, etc.  Being called arrogant or a bloodsucker gets sand in my vag.

I and my colleagues get surprisingly little respect on a daily basis -- people showing up to an appointment an hour late expecting to be seen, refusing to be examined in the hospital, being yelled at in the ICU because the TV doesn't work, being yelled at because of insurance issues unrelated to us.  Plus every Fark thread that is somewhat medical gets a lot of people either hating on docs, claiming that well-established medical practices  are bogus, touting some natural or miracle cure, etc.

Sorry I got my panties in a twist, but I just want to be clear we're just people who don't need to be either pissed on or worshiped, just like everyone else.

I like to think what we're trying to do is special, though, because it involves fixing people.  And I don't think anything is more important than people.

Not even kernel distros.

But that's just one dipshiat's opinion.
 
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