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(Salon)   Korean-American chefs have put America smack in the middle of the "Kimchi revolution"   (salon.com) divider line 79
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2014-04-08 12:00:29 AM
That's an accurate description of my intestines when I eat kimchi.

Also, don't fark with soju.
 
2014-04-08 12:17:10 AM
There's room for authenticity, and there's room for creative interpretation and riffing.  It's important that the traditional dishes don't die out, and places that do serve authentic cuisine play an important role by providing diners with a reference for what those who are pushing the boundaries are doing.  There will be chefs to choose to play it old school, and those who choose to open up the playbook and try out some new things.  One path isn't better than the other, and I think that's where the 'sincerity' argument comes into play.  If you're passion is preserving the traditions, then it's great if you get the chance to make your career doing that.  If your passion is expanding the boundaries, it's likewise great if you can make your career doing that.

I'd rather eat at a place where the chef loves and understands the food he cooks vs somewhere that the chef is just punching the clock and doing what they think they have to do.
 
2014-04-08 12:34:25 AM
Have not, Do not and Will Not eat Kimchi.

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That shiat looks like the inside of Jabu-Jabu's belly in Ocarina of Time.

And smells just as bad.
 
2014-04-08 01:23:59 AM
that's fish head and sauerkraut stew, right?
 
2014-04-08 01:26:44 AM
Frank, you've struck cole slaw!

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2014-04-08 01:27:09 AM
I used to hate kimchi.  Then I had good kimchi.  Now I only hate bad kimchi.

/most of the kimchi is available to me is bad
 
2014-04-08 01:27:44 AM

TuteTibiImperes: There's room for authenticity, and there's room for creative interpretation and riffing.  It's important that the traditional dishes don't die out, and places that do serve authentic cuisine play an important role by providing diners with a reference for what those who are pushing the boundaries are doing.  There will be chefs to choose to play it old school, and those who choose to open up the playbook and try out some new things.  One path isn't better than the other, and I think that's where the 'sincerity' argument comes into play.  If you're passion is preserving the traditions, then it's great if you get the chance to make your career doing that.  If your passion is expanding the boundaries, it's likewise great if you can make your career doing that.

I'd rather eat at a place where the chef loves and understands the food he cooks vs somewhere that the chef is just punching the clock and doing what they think they have to do.


So much the bolded statement. It's why I love my wife's cooking.

/Wife's a Korean-American so I'm getting a kick.
 
2014-04-08 01:28:24 AM
Seoul food.
 
2014-04-08 01:28:41 AM
I live in Honolulu and grew up on some really great Korean food. If you really want to make a Korean food hater sick, open up a bottle of radish (daikon) Kimchi. That stuff smells like a turbo-powered fart. My cousin's husband moved here from Ohio, and when someone opened up a bottle of that stuff at the table shortly after he arrived here, he nearly puked. Tastes really good, though.
 
2014-04-08 01:45:36 AM

Harry_Seldon: Frank, you've struck cole slaw!

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That's one of my favorite scenes from M*A*S*H.
 
2014-04-08 01:46:18 AM
I have no idea what the fark this article is saying, and I feel pretty good about that.
The yuppie's desire to find meaning in their superficial existence is just as interesting the 50,000th time Salon has posted about it.
 
2014-04-08 01:46:36 AM

Harry_Seldon: Frank, you've struck cole slaw!

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Nice.
 
2014-04-08 01:47:27 AM
"To thine own self be true." Taken from Hamlet, the line is the mantra of the neo-hippie, the rebel rocker, and the ideologically pure politician, who share nothing in common except for a near-mystical belief that refusing to contribute to the social good is a self-evident virtue. Inside this framework, every man is king of his castle, common courtesy is for sissies, and all opinions are equally valid.

Or as we call it at Fark... Tuesday.
 
2014-04-08 01:48:30 AM

Harry_Seldon: Frank, you've struck cole slaw!

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Bravo! It's the first thing I think of when I hear the word "kimchee". I saw that episode as a kid long before I first tried kimchee as an adult.
 
2014-04-08 01:58:05 AM
Good Kimchi is tasty good food. Expand your horizons and try new things.
 
2014-04-08 02:00:47 AM
I used to know a gal named Kimchi. If she's a member of this site, I'd just like to say you're ugly and you smell funny.
 
2014-04-08 02:00:57 AM
kimchi is farking delicious
 
2014-04-08 02:02:51 AM

hervatski: kimchi is farking delicious


This.
 
2014-04-08 02:03:34 AM
Don't eat too much of it - Koreans and Northern Chinese and Japanese have the highest stomach cancer rates in the world.

/I like kim chi and sauerkraut
 
2014-04-08 02:04:36 AM
Unlikely tag would also have been appropriate.

When I was in college, I lived in a dorm, and some Korean foreign exchange students would use the central kitchen area to cook kimchi. Stank up the whole dorm something awful.
 
2014-04-08 02:06:17 AM
I'll eat all the kimchi people put in front of me, the gnarlier the better.
 
2014-04-08 02:07:10 AM

Atomic Spunk: I live in Honolulu and grew up on some really great Korean food. If you really want to make a Korean food hater sick, open up a bottle of radish (daikon) Kimchi. That stuff smells like a turbo-powered fart. My cousin's husband moved here from Ohio, and when someone opened up a bottle of that stuff at the table shortly after he arrived here, he nearly puked. Tastes really good, though.


I misread that and thought you meant the puke tastes really good. I ewwwwed.
 
2014-04-08 02:08:17 AM
Better have another fridge for it or everything in it will taste of gimchi.

Did you know when it is not being use at restaurants, riot control police stuff it in 12 gauge barrels and shoot it at protesters?
 
2014-04-08 02:11:23 AM
Recently reading about the spectacular benefits for the intestines of freshly-made (non-pasteurized) sauerkraut . Of course it also tastes great if you like it.

I suspect kimchi has similar bacterial benefits for the digestive tract. She thrusts one at me. "Here, take this and read it. Reverend Moon died for your sins."

Jabs a finger impatiently, helpfully. Waylaid stranger pretends to look puzzled, and a bit stupid.

"It's in this tract. Who? Moon! Reverend Moon!"

Her mark unbuckles and drops drawers.

"What are you doing?"

"Mooning you."

/ 73 and still racing bicycles: kimchi forever
 
2014-04-08 02:16:50 AM
When I was teaching in Korea, my favorite little hole-in-the-wall had a garlic kimchi that was just the best.

/Spicy ox tail soup and kimchi
//Heaven
 
2014-04-08 02:19:13 AM
vietnamese cucumber kimchi is best kimchi
 
2014-04-08 02:24:39 AM
Kinchee revolution? It makes sense. Kimchee sure is revolting, all right.
 
2014-04-08 02:33:10 AM
After living one year in Korea I now love Kimchi. I understand the yearning for authenticity in food but types of food tends to evolve even at its origin. Hence the many types of Kimchi.
 
2014-04-08 02:36:56 AM
About 15 years ago, I spent a summer in Savannah, GA. One day I had lunch at a Taco Bell, and the black chick working the counter was named Kimchi, She refused to believe it was an asian food.

It was pretty hilarious. This was before smartphones, so I couldn't prove it to her.

/csb
 
2014-04-08 02:42:02 AM
Kimchi is great. Fiery going down, then an after-dinner show.
/yo, Atomic...been to Palama Supermarket recently? I live near their new one off HCC
 
2014-04-08 02:42:27 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: hervatski: kimchi is farking delicious

This.


Yeah it's wicked good. And you can use it in so many different ways.
 
2014-04-08 02:47:59 AM
I suspect a lot of people who think kimchi stinks are confusing it with that bean curd stuff they use in a lot of dishes. I'll agree that stuff is horrible smelling when it's cooked, but somehow the finished dish is delicious. I don't find the smell of kimchi bad at all.

Throw some regular red cabbage kimchi in a pot with some ground beef and water and you've got a fine-ass stew.
 
2014-04-08 03:02:32 AM
I thought dependence upon pickled cabbage was a reason ancestors immigrated to America. Oh nostalia, not what it used to be.
 
2014-04-08 03:03:00 AM
Sick tag?  Hell no. Kimchi is awesome.
 
2014-04-08 03:07:54 AM

robohobo: This was before smartphones


Hey, let's all feel old together.
 
2014-04-08 03:21:22 AM

Atomic Spunk: I live in Honolulu and grew up on some really great Korean food. If you really want to make a Korean food hater sick, open up a bottle of radish (daikon) Kimchi. That stuff smells like a turbo-powered fart. My cousin's husband moved here from Ohio, and when someone opened up a bottle of that stuff at the table shortly after he arrived here, he nearly puked. Tastes really good, though.


While the turbo-fart smell is not enticing, your culinary tastes as an Oahu resident are, as I am planning a trip there soon...any tips for white farkers who appreciate food of the Pacific Rim?
 
2014-04-08 03:21:40 AM

Ishidan: Kimchi is great. Fiery going down, then an after-dinner show.
/yo, Atomic...been to Palama Supermarket recently? I live near their new one off HCC


I haven't gone in there yet, but I'm certainly going to check it out. I'm assuming the Kimchi is good there?

Favorite place for great kimchi (and other foods too) - Sorabol on Keeaumoku. Most disappointing Kimchi - 678 Hawaii (new Korean place across Kapiolani from the Convention Center).
 
2014-04-08 03:26:58 AM

jimmythrust: Atomic Spunk: I live in Honolulu and grew up on some really great Korean food. If you really want to make a Korean food hater sick, open up a bottle of radish (daikon) Kimchi. That stuff smells like a turbo-powered fart. My cousin's husband moved here from Ohio, and when someone opened up a bottle of that stuff at the table shortly after he arrived here, he nearly puked. Tastes really good, though.

While the turbo-fart smell is not enticing, your culinary tastes as an Oahu resident are, as I am planning a trip there soon...any tips for white farkers who appreciate food of the Pacific Rim?


Sorabol is good, but if you're not already a fan of authentic Korean food, it may be a little tough to take. If you want a nice dinner with great atmosphere and don't mind spending a bit of money, Roy's in Hawaii Kai or Allen Wong's on King St. are classics. A place that just opened and seems to be getting a buzz is called Ramen Bistro on Isenburg St. Enjoy your stay here!
 
2014-04-08 03:31:10 AM

Atomic Spunk: jimmythrust: Atomic Spunk: I live in Honolulu and grew up on some really great Korean food. If you really want to make a Korean food hater sick, open up a bottle of radish (daikon) Kimchi. That stuff smells like a turbo-powered fart. My cousin's husband moved here from Ohio, and when someone opened up a bottle of that stuff at the table shortly after he arrived here, he nearly puked. Tastes really good, though.

While the turbo-fart smell is not enticing, your culinary tastes as an Oahu resident are, as I am planning a trip there soon...any tips for white farkers who appreciate food of the Pacific Rim?

Sorabol is good, but if you're not already a fan of authentic Korean food, it may be a little tough to take. If you want a nice dinner with great atmosphere and don't mind spending a bit of money, Roy's in Hawaii Kai or Allen Wong's on King St. are classics. A place that just opened and seems to be getting a buzz is called Ramen Bistro on Isenburg St. Enjoy your stay here!


Thanks, Atomic. If you're on Maui soon, nothing on the street will wow you. The high-end stuff, sure. But the affordable is largely blah, even though it's always advertised as the "best", which is an easy claim on a small island...
 
2014-04-08 03:54:41 AM
Sounds like hype to me, Salon.
 
2014-04-08 04:37:28 AM
My first contact with kimchi was in the day room of F company, 3rd Bn, 1st Brigade at Ft Gordon in 1984. A soldier with a Korean wife was eating his home cooked lunch.  He opened his jar of kimchi and the stank cleared the day room.  "WTF is that nasty stench?"

Then I got orders for Korea.  I can't say when it happened, but some time during my tour in Korea...probably during a 4am drunken ramen feast...I now love, LOVE kimchi....much to the dismay of my family, who have to put up with the staink when I crack open a jar and get my mogo on.
 
2014-04-08 04:41:52 AM
Why is that "sick?"
 
2014-04-08 04:47:00 AM

bunner: Sounds like hype to me, Salon.


Well, to a denizen of L.A., it sure seems like old news. We've had trucks running around here selling tacos full of kimchi and pork bulgogi for years.
 
2014-04-08 05:06:33 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: hervatski: kimchi is farking delicious

This.


yes, it's great stuff.

Haters don't realize what they're missing.
 
2014-04-08 05:14:30 AM

Get Your Dick Out Of My Food: The My Little Pony Killer: hervatski: kimchi is farking delicious

This.

yes, it's great stuff.

Haters don't realize what they're missing.


Rotten cabbage. Sure we do.
 
2014-04-08 05:33:22 AM
It's a shame that Kimchi is what gets associated with Korean cuisine by the rest of the world. It's totally deserved, cause they eat that shiat every meal with every dish, but it's a shame. There are some really tasty, foreigner-friendly Korean dishes, like dalkgalbi (chicken stirfry based on the Korean gochu red pepper instead of soy), duejigalbi (korean grilled pork), makguksu (noodles with the red pepper again but sweeter), bulgogi, and bibimbap.

All super good, all pretty healthy, all overshadowed by kimchi. Korean cuisine can and should have a larger niche around the world, and I can't help but feel that kimchi is impairing this.
 
2014-04-08 05:38:15 AM

Atomic Spunk: I live in Honolulu and grew up on some really great Korean food. If you really want to make a Korean food hater sick, open up a bottle of radish (daikon) Kimchi. That stuff smells like a turbo-powered fart.


After you eat it, do your farts smell like a fresh garden salad?

/never had kimchi, but giant fan of sauerkraut, so maybe
 
2014-04-08 05:44:23 AM

Mister Peejay: Atomic Spunk: I live in Honolulu and grew up on some really great Korean food. If you really want to make a Korean food hater sick, open up a bottle of radish (daikon) Kimchi. That stuff smells like a turbo-powered fart.

After you eat it, do your farts smell like a fresh garden salad?

/never had kimchi, but giant fan of sauerkraut, so maybe


If you like sauerkraut, then ya you'd probably be into kimchi. As is noted upthread, there's a wide variety in quality and type, but overall you'd probably enjoy.
 
2014-04-08 06:01:23 AM

PercyColburn: Why is that "sick?"


White person syndrome.

Ooo, it's icky. Don't touch it. Looks foreign. Probably not hygienic.

I remember the first time I returned to university in Texas after a summer working with ESL teachers in Japan. Mid-1962.

"Do they really eat raw fish? I mean, they don't even cook it at all? Like, it's raw, just like that?"

Long disgusted expression on faces, gag noises, disbelieving looks.

My, how times change.

Again, got to give it to the French for culinary adventuresomeness. Is that a word? I earned an angry red underscoring from the white people at Microsoft (I presume) for that. But what do they know.

If you really want to make the honkies retch give them some ripe durian. Really high-end durian has practically no odor but it looks like something out of HR Giger. Heavenly flesh, addictive flavor. Permeates all of Bangkok during the season.

/ For what it's worth, Kimchi feels healthy, tastes great and builds a race of tough, aggressive little bastards. What more could you ask of it. Oh, the PEE-YOU smell.

// Well just get back to your stale grease and instant coffee perfumes, Mister Yankee.
 
2014-04-08 06:11:49 AM
Methinks the writer is paid by the word. Her writing is.....ecliptic.
 
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