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(The Raw Story)   Former starship captain narrates junk science movie bankrolled by notorious anti-semite. WTF IS THIS SH*T?   (rawstory.com) divider line 335
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2014-04-07 07:08:25 PM  
Both sides are right since motion is relative to observer as stated by Galileo and Einstein.  Choose a frame of reference that suits you. It's called a Galilean transformation.
 
2014-04-07 07:09:18 PM  

TheManofPA: TomD9938: FTA :

About one in four Americans believe in geocentrism

I don't believe that for a moment.

The link in the article says that 3 out of 4 were able to answer a question that the "Earth revolves around the sun" correctly. 1 in 4 got that one wrong, meaning they were either confused, believe geocentrism, or never learned one of the most basic things in science.


It would have been nice to see how the question was phrased. If it was in the linked article, I didn't see it.

It could have been put to a participant in the form of an ambush question like, "do you believe in geocentrism?".

Not knowing the meaning of the word (forgivable) and not wanting to appear stupid, they simply blurt out in the affirmative and Snarky McReporter has his/her angle affirming the stupidity he/she knew was there all along.
 
2014-04-07 07:09:35 PM  

Close2TheEdge: Take organic products.  There really is no evidence that organic food is any healthier for you than conventional food.  But people, myself included, will often buy it because we "feel" like it must be healthier.


People buy it because certain crops contain a lot of pesticide residue and they're avoiding that with organic apples and raspberries. Not sure how that is a vague feeling about being healthier.
 
2014-04-07 07:09:46 PM  

SnakeLee: "About one in four believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it."
WTF??


One in three fark readers accept random factoids from disreputable websites.

 
2014-04-07 07:10:05 PM  

Pimparoo: Much more bothered by the fact Dr. Michio Kaku would be in something like this. The Star Trek lady can say she was just acting.

You would hope a theoretical physicist would be smarter than this.


Perhaps he's in it to represent a dissenting view. Then they edit his footage to make him look bad. He's a bit strange anyway.
 
2014-04-07 07:10:35 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Zariski-Riemann space? Affine space?


I am never forget the day I am given first original paper to write.....


/Only be sure always to call it please 'research'.
 
2014-04-07 07:10:47 PM  
And we are at the center of the universe since Big Bang happened everywhere and it's space that's expanding not us, the center of universe is everywhere.
 
2014-04-07 07:10:48 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Astorix: Her dog whine voice is the main reason I refused to watch Voyager.

Agreed. And it isn't like she's a good actor with a grating voice. She's terrible. It is incredible that anyone ever gave her a role in anything.


We could have had Susan Gibney.  She was on the short list until Mulgrew up and Melisandre'd her way into the captain's chair.  :(

img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-07 07:11:06 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It's called a paycheck submitter.  You know the kind of thing that keeps decent, hard working people off of welfare.  You should try getting one, you might like it.


Kate, this is Robert, I thought you said you'd help get me a side gig, you know, for all those favors in the Captain's quarters. How come you never return my calls and texts.
 
2014-04-07 07:11:24 PM  
Unless you business is politics, mixing business and politics is a bad idea. 99 times out of 100, it winds up harming your brand in the long run.
 
2014-04-07 07:13:46 PM  

Superjew: Susan Gibney


Geordi's Girlfriend in red?  Wasn't she a civvie?

...imdb imdb...

Man, I really need to rewatch DS9
 
2014-04-07 07:13:51 PM  

fusillade762: All I heard her say is "Everything we know about the universe is wrong". Considering about half the talking heads there are talking about dark matter and NOT geocentrism I think it's possible she wasn't aware of the nature of what she signed up for. I certainly think Michio Kaku can't be happy with having his position misrepresented.

Maybe they all thought it was a parody move? Or maybe it IS a parody movie?


Or quite likely the scientists suffered the same fate as David Albert in What the Bleep do we Know?  Interview is selectively edited and a scientist who thinks they are doing a documentary ends up as a figure endorsing pseudoscientific bunk.

Without seeing the film, I can sort of see where they appear to be going.  Not geocentrism in the classical sense, but rather our solar system is in the middle.  To a lay person, there is a good chunk of cosmological evidence that could be interpreted that way.  The consistent red-shift of almost everything, the fact that any direction you look is basically towards the big bang... stuff like that.  It's hard for someone who's not a high level expert who can understand at least some of the math to really get that stuff.  Most of us believe it based on the fact we trust in scientific expertise and the simplified models that are presented by good educators.  Much the same way the folks at The Secret get conscious thought and measurement using EM fields and other particles confused.
 
2014-04-07 07:14:06 PM  

Clock Spider Jerusalem: Close2TheEdge: Take organic products.  There really is no evidence that organic food is any healthier for you than conventional food.  But people, myself included, will often buy it because we "feel" like it must be healthier.

People buy it because certain crops contain a lot of pesticide residue and they're avoiding that with organic apples and raspberries. Not sure how that is a vague feeling about being healthier.


And some of us prefer free-range broccoli because it's more humane.
 
2014-04-07 07:14:09 PM  

Repo Man: Waiting to see if the Farkette who proudly proclaims her belief her belief in this nonsense makes an appearance ITT. I've never seen her try and defend it though, she just shiats and runs, kinda like a certain BMW guy.


The one who claims to be psychic?
 
2014-04-07 07:15:06 PM  

Clock Spider Jerusalem: Close2TheEdge: Take organic products.  There really is no evidence that organic food is any healthier for you than conventional food.  But people, myself included, will often buy it because we "feel" like it must be healthier.

People buy it because certain crops contain a lot of pesticide residue and they're avoiding that with organic apples and raspberries. Not sure how that is a vague feeling about being healthier.


Unless I'm mistaken, there have been no clinical studies that have proven pesticide residue in trace amounts is really harmful, even if the fruits and veg aren't washed before eating. My point is not to say that buying organic for this reason is wrong.  But it is an assumption consumers make that isn't really borne out by hard evidence.  Take that attitude to the extreme, and you have the anti-vac mindset.
 
2014-04-07 07:15:38 PM  

fartacus: Eh, whatever. Voyager wasn't a real Star Trek series anyway, everyone knows women can't be Starship Captains...


img3.wikia.nocookie.net

Frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2014-04-07 07:16:18 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: the_sidewinder: Serious Post on Serious Thread: [note to K.M., I will pay you $50 for that service, for realsies]

You can get it for Mark Meer for free, in several voices of your choosing

/I have him as my voicemail message as both Shepard and a Vorcha

Link or it didn't happen.

And nun a dat lmgtfy bs


http://1drv.ms/PHW5qX
 
2014-04-07 07:16:29 PM  

TomD9938: TheManofPA: TomD9938: FTA :

About one in four Americans believe in geocentrism

I don't believe that for a moment.

The link in the article says that 3 out of 4 were able to answer a question that the "Earth revolves around the sun" correctly. 1 in 4 got that one wrong, meaning they were either confused, believe geocentrism, or never learned one of the most basic things in science.

It would have been nice to see how the question was phrased. If it was in the linked article, I didn't see it.

It could have been put to a participant in the form of an ambush question like, "do you believe in geocentrism?".

Not knowing the meaning of the word (forgivable) and not wanting to appear stupid, they simply blurt out in the affirmative and Snarky McReporter has his/her angle affirming the stupidity he/she knew was there all along.


Question: "Does the Earth go around the Sun, or does the Sun go around the Earth?"
Snarky McReporter: National Science Foundation


/"Yes."
 
2014-04-07 07:16:36 PM  
Earth has enough gravity to hold the sun in its orbit?
 
2014-04-07 07:17:01 PM  

PunGent: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Geocentrism is still a thing people believe? That's off the potato scale level derp.

On the plus side, it made sextants work...

No, really.


If geocentrism made sextants work, navigators could have used the planets as references. The reason they used stars is because stars are so distant that the difference between the two models (parallax error) is too small to make a difference.
 
2014-04-07 07:17:51 PM  

UsikFark: hotmoonsauce: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Geocentrism is still a thing people believe? That's off the potato scale level derp.

I don't know why but that cracked me up

[psi.edu:8080 image 450x284]

"Can't explain that!"


dickbutt on the head, potato
 
2014-04-07 07:20:02 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: ciberido: FlashHarry: Gecko Gingrich: FlashHarry: this is certainly a possibility. after all, hollywood has produced class-a nutbags like michael moriarty

Canadian via Detroit. Rose to fame on a show filmed and set in NYC.

victoria jackson

Floridian. Did work the comedy circuit in Hollywood, but rose to fame on SNL, filmed in NYC.

and chuck norris.

I'll give you that one.

hollywood in the sense of 'the entertainment industry.'


'For instance, "Hollywood" is used as a metonym for the U.S. film industry because of the fame and cultural identity of Hollywood, a district of the city of Los Angeles, California, as the historical center of film studios and film stars.'

It's literally the textbook example of a metronym.

Metronym: 1) metonym constructed from name of a city or part thereof; 2) heteronym that spends inordinate amount of time cultivating its physical appearance


You, sir or madam, have won the internet for today.
 
2014-04-07 07:20:49 PM  

Repo Man: Waiting to see if the Farkette who proudly proclaims her belief her belief in this nonsense makes an appearance ITT. I've never seen her try and defend it though, she just shiats and runs, kinda like a certain BMW guy.


Everyone knows that the Earth was spat out of a giant 3D printer, anyway.


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-04-07 07:21:19 PM  

Ivo Shandor: groppet: Why not just bring the flat earth socity in this as well.

If you do that, you will need to give equal time to the other side.
[i.imgur.com image 558x804]


Now with PROOF:

www.crystalinks.com
 
2014-04-07 07:21:30 PM  
 Man fark Janeway, she should have stayed lost in space.
 
2014-04-07 07:22:13 PM  

Close2TheEdge: Clock Spider Jerusalem: Close2TheEdge: Take organic products.  There really is no evidence that organic food is any healthier for you than conventional food.  But people, myself included, will often buy it because we "feel" like it must be healthier.

People buy it because certain crops contain a lot of pesticide residue and they're avoiding that with organic apples and raspberries. Not sure how that is a vague feeling about being healthier.

Unless I'm mistaken, there have been no clinical studies that have proven pesticide residue in trace amounts is really harmful, even if the fruits and veg aren't washed before eating. My point is not to say that buying organic for this reason is wrong.  But it is an assumption consumers make that isn't really borne out by hard evidence.  Take that attitude to the extreme, and you have the anti-vac mindset.


Many/most organic crops use pesticides.   http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/06/18/137249264/organic-pesticid e s-not-an-oxymoron?ft=1&f=1053

'Organic' is a marketing label often used haphhazardly.  Even legally organic, as defined by the FDA, allows several varieties of pesticides to be used, many of which have short track records and intensive processing steps.
 
2014-04-07 07:22:52 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: PunGent: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Geocentrism is still a thing people believe? That's off the potato scale level derp.

On the plus side, it made sextants work...

No, really.

If geocentrism made sextants work, navigators could have used the planets as references. The reason they used stars is because stars are so distant that the difference between the two models (parallax error) is too small to make a difference.


Spatial parallax. That was the equation. Always wondered why things as bright as planets weren't used as much as the stars were used.

But the Vikings had go and ruin things with a board and a nail.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-Viking-Sun-Compass/
 
2014-04-07 07:23:43 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Somewhere Kirk Cameron's agent is getting a VERY thorough screaming-at.


It's not his fault.  Nobody mentioned there would be bananas in the film.
 
2014-04-07 07:25:47 PM  

Huggermugger: Earth has enough gravity to hold the sun in its orbit?


The sun is the same size in the sky as the moon. Easy to fudge some superstitions about it.
 
2014-04-07 07:26:00 PM  
That Kate Mulgrew is narrating isn't too much of a problem. An actor saying things that they don't believe and aren't true on TV? That's what actors are for.

The issue is all the physicists. When an astrophysicist is seen in the trailer as talking in favor of geocentrism, he either had no idea what he the interview was about and is being heavily edited and taken out of context, and hopefully suing for defamation; or it's a parody mockmentary.
 
2014-04-07 07:26:36 PM  
I can't help but think (or hope) that a large part of the "1/4 of Americans believe in geocentrism" statistic comes simply from people not even understanding the question instead of them actually believing that the sun revolves around the earth.
 
2014-04-07 07:26:51 PM  
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TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!
 
2014-04-07 07:28:40 PM  

miniflea: I can't help but think (or hope) that a large part of the "1/4 of Americans believe in geocentrism" statistic comes simply from people not even understanding the question instead of them actually believing that the sun revolves around the earth.


Yeah but i someone can't understand "Does the Earth revolve around the Sun or the Sun around the Earth?" you've also got problems. The fact that they can vote and own guns further complicates matters.
 
2014-04-07 07:29:29 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Her voice alone makes me contemplate suicide.


I like her voice.

It's earnest.
 
2014-04-07 07:29:37 PM  

Huggermugger: Earth has enough gravity to hold the sun in its orbit?


The fat shoppers at Walmart help.
 
2014-04-07 07:30:10 PM  
Janeway was certifiable. This was a deranged person who needed to be fragged by her own crew.

Why is anyone surprised that Mulgrew is batty too?
 
2014-04-07 07:31:49 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Close2TheEdge: Clock Spider Jerusalem: Close2TheEdge: Take organic products.  There really is no evidence that organic food is any healthier for you than conventional food.  But people, myself included, will often buy it because we "feel" like it must be healthier.

People buy it because certain crops contain a lot of pesticide residue and they're avoiding that with organic apples and raspberries. Not sure how that is a vague feeling about being healthier.

Unless I'm mistaken, there have been no clinical studies that have proven pesticide residue in trace amounts is really harmful, even if the fruits and veg aren't washed before eating. My point is not to say that buying organic for this reason is wrong.  But it is an assumption consumers make that isn't really borne out by hard evidence.  Take that attitude to the extreme, and you have the anti-vac mindset.

Many/most organic crops use pesticides.   http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/06/18/137249264/organic-pesticid e s-not-an-oxymoron?ft=1&f=1053

'Organic' is a marketing label often used haphhazardly.  Even legally organic, as defined by the FDA, allows several varieties of pesticides to be used, many of which have short track records and intensive processing steps.


And this.
 
2014-04-07 07:32:12 PM  

Colin O'Scopy: So lemme make sure I get you:

An ACTOR spoke and people are believing what is being said.

By. An. ACTOR.


Yup and people somehow think it will kill her acting career. Kind of funny really.
I'm surprised people still believe in an Earth centric solar system, but an actress narrating does not mean she believes it and even if she did, it wouldn't effect her career. After all, Tom Cruise still works.
 
2014-04-07 07:32:14 PM  
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2014-04-07 07:32:51 PM  

optikeye: I thought it was well known she's a very conservative in her beliefs.


There's a difference between "conservative" and "believes the Sun goes around the Earth and the Church was right to burn Bruno and Galileo was wrong" which is what this group says (hint: galileowaswrong.com)

Or maybe I'm just giving to much farking credit to the farking dimwitted brainwashed jesus-gobbling conservatives
 
2014-04-07 07:36:14 PM  
Anyone click on the link?  Kate Mulgrew has apparently aged very poorly.  She looks 30 years older compared to 14 years ago.  Yikes
 
2014-04-07 07:36:32 PM  
I watch the trailer and I LOLLED at the statement. "The temperature disturbances throughout the universe were all pointing towards the Earth".

Well I GUESS that's a new theory to explain the equal heat of the universe, wow, just wow.
 
2014-04-07 07:38:50 PM  

Ivo Shandor: groppet: Why not just bring the flat earth socity in this as well.

If you do that, you will need to give equal time to the other side.
[i.imgur.com image 558x804]


img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-07 07:39:21 PM  
Whatever she's been smoking? Share!
 
2014-04-07 07:40:02 PM  
 
2014-04-07 07:40:57 PM  
Headline: Star Trek 'actress' lends her gravitas to film promoting idea that sun revolves around Earth

/FTFY
 
2014-04-07 07:41:50 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It's called a paycheck submitter.  You know the kind of thing that keeps decent, hard working people off of welfare.  You should try getting one, you might like it.


www.quickmeme.com

You are without doubt the most inept derp I've ever seen.
 
2014-04-07 07:44:10 PM  
cannotsuggestaname:


where do they fit in as compared to Flat Earthers though? That's the real question here.

Flat Earthers are typically Discordians. They know that the Earth isn't flat, but they enjoy seeing people popping blood vessels trying to argue that the Earth isn't flat.
 
2014-04-07 07:46:12 PM  

SnakeLee: "About one in four believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it."

WTF??


That statement is simply not true, the reality is they are too stupid to know the correct answer and they took a guess at it.
 
2014-04-07 07:46:46 PM  
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
 
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