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2014-04-07 06:45:18 PM  
as a historian who studies ancient history, medieval history, history of religions in Europe, Ancient philosophy, medieval philosophy  and contemporary philosophy (and a job fixing and deploying computers), I can point out and say without a doubt that

until quite recently people believed the world was round like a ball.  back into the ancient world this was a
FACT.  not a hypothetical, but a serious theory.

A Greek Astronomer in antiquities hypothesized the Solar Centric idea.

What the Church believed was that there were two types of motion, straight and circular.  of course circular motion is a myth as without the suns gravity all of the circular motion things would fly off in straight lines until acted upon by an external force.

even though many more Astronomers discovered that the solar centric idea made all of the math work better with the observations, the idea of circular motion continued to be in vogue.

Copernicus made the circles work better with the solar centric idea but still could not get away from the perfect  circular motion.

Tycho Brahe thought the earth was at the center and was frustrated that his observations did not back it up.

Kepler stole Tycho's observations and discovered elipses.

Galileo figured out things like trajectory and accelleration

but...   people still believe in the hollow earth
the flat earth
the earth center of the universe
the stars are heaven peeking through

sigh.
 
2014-04-07 06:45:21 PM  

Savage Belief: SnakeLee: "About one in four believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it."

WTF??

I questioned that statistic as well.


That seems like a pretty conservative estimate from anyone that actually believes that shiat.
 
2014-04-07 06:46:16 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: DjangoStonereaver: She's got to be just picking up a cheque.

Or, as Sir Larry would say, "You show up, you remember your lines, you say the words, you pick up the check."


I guess that would explain Larry's appearance in the 1980s version of "Clash of the Titans".

/does this mean I can't watch NTSF:SD:SUV anymore?
 
2014-04-07 06:46:59 PM  

LemSkroob: Pimparoo: Much more bothered by the fact Dr. Michio Kaku would be in something like this. The Star Trek lady can say she was just acting.

You would hope a theoretical physicist would be smarter than this.

Michio Kaku is a brilliant guy, but the dude is bordering on savant territory. He can recite (and then correct and rewrite) science textbooks by heart, but he can't remember people he met dozens of times before. He is also easily startled and confused a lot. I wouldnt be surprised if he has no idea what the film is about outside of his segment.


Dr Kaku used to appear fairly regularly on Fox news when physics and astronomy were being discussed. It might be the first time some of their viewers were exposed to actual science.
 
2014-04-07 06:47:42 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: Blues_X: I think it's her making a house payment.

she has a starring role in Orange is the New Black series on Netflix.


Oooh! Netflix!

She'll never want again given the tens of hundreds of dollars that will wrack up!

She's an ACTRESS. For about $50 I could probably get her to leave an outgoing VM message for me saying the earth is 'turtles all the way down'.

[note to K.M., I will pay you $50 for that service, for realsies]
 
2014-04-07 06:48:08 PM  

davynelson: hope they paid her well

for a career-killing role


Imagine if Carrie Fisher had done that Star Wars Christmas Special.
 
2014-04-07 06:48:10 PM  
Even though it has been conclusively proven by Voyager I and II, Mariner, Viking, and about a dozen other probes I can name?  Oh, AND THE MOON LANDINGS?  Really?  This isn't junk science, its bad comedy.  Scratch that, this gives bad comedy a bad name.  This is just a waste of precious natural resources that could be better used by other people.

What next, a movie supporting the earth is flat even though we currently have a space station orbiting it?  Maybe we should make a counter movie to this with Ric Romero narrating named, "This Just In: The Earth Orbits the Sun and the Earth Is Round."
 
2014-04-07 06:49:02 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Geocentrism is still a thing people believe? That's off the potato scale level derp.


I don't know why but that cracked me up
 
2014-04-07 06:49:02 PM  
Waiting to see if the Farkette who proudly proclaims her belief her belief in this nonsense makes an appearance ITT. I've never seen her try and defend it though, she just shiats and runs, kinda like a certain BMW guy.
 
2014-04-07 06:49:08 PM  

Clock Spider Jerusalem: Jument: SnakeLee: "About one in four believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it."

WTF??

This - seriously WTF.

I've heard of a lot of crazy theories but never heard of this one. Yeah. WTF?


Its very easy to disprove. you dont even need actual "proof" (as in direct evidence or real data)

All that shiat that we put into space has to be programmed. The programming is done by scientists and engineers. Scientists and engineers believe the sun is at the center and the earth rotates around it. That programming is based on equations that assume that belief.

Therefore, if the stuff in the sky actually works (like, your DirectTV package that you watch the 700 club on), then the earth must revolve around the sun.
 
2014-04-07 06:49:39 PM  

madgordy: Kepler stole Tycho's observations and discovered elipses.


Tycho died. For science.
 
2014-04-07 06:49:58 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: LemSkroob: Pimparoo: Much more bothered by the fact Dr. Michio Kaku would be in something like this. The Star Trek lady can say she was just acting.

You would hope a theoretical physicist would be smarter than this.

Michio Kaku is a brilliant guy, but the dude is bordering on savant territory. He can recite (and then correct and rewrite) science textbooks by heart, but he can't remember people he met dozens of times before. He is also easily startled and confused a lot. I wouldnt be surprised if he has no idea what the film is about outside of his segment.

Dr Kaku used to appear fairly regularly on Fox news when physics and astronomy were being discussed. It might be the first time some of their viewers were exposed to actual science.


Well, he is a media-whore, too. (and good for him for it. whatever it takes to get the message out).
 
2014-04-07 06:50:32 PM  

TomD9938: FTA :

About one in four Americans believe in geocentrism

I don't believe that for a moment.


The link in the article says that 3 out of 4 were able to answer a question that the "Earth revolves around the sun" correctly. 1 in 4 got that one wrong, meaning they were either confused, believe geocentrism, or never learned one of the most basic things in science.
 
2014-04-07 06:50:43 PM  
Mercury and Venus are inferior planets...simply put their orbits are closer to the sun than ours. They show phases...you only see those planets in the morning or evening because they are closer to the sun. You never seen Mercury or Venus late at night. We can observe this because our orbit is beyond those two  planets (as we go around the sun). The superior planets..those beyond Earth...don't show phases Because their orbits are further out than Earth's.

Geocentric theory blown...

www.greatdreams.com
 
2014-04-07 06:50:55 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: [note to K.M., I will pay you $50 for that service, for realsies]


You can get it for Mark Meer for free, in several voices of your choosing

/I have him as my voicemail message as both Shepard and a Vorcha
 
2014-04-07 06:52:43 PM  
Somewhere Kirk Cameron's agent is getting a VERY thorough screaming-at.
 
2014-04-07 06:53:00 PM  
So lemme make sure I get you:

An ACTOR spoke and people are believing what is being said.

By. An. ACTOR.
 
2014-04-07 06:53:02 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Geocentrism is still a thing people believe? That's off the potato scale level derp.


We have people, right now, in space, actually watching, first-hand, the Earth orbit the Sun, and yet this foolishness still persists because it's coupled to the one thing that festers in the human psyche: religion. Religion is the anti-logic. It's why the vast majority of such things - spontaneous generation, geocentrism, creationism, the "young earth" foolishness - are typically rolled together with a belief system. Without the belief system, such things can be easily countered with logic and observation. With the belief system, such things cannot be countered because the logic-defying belief in them is viewed as "faith," and any attempt to counter them, even with direct observation, is seen as "temptation" or "weakness."

The only way to eradicate ignorance is to prevent its spread. Thanks to the efforts of the Bush administration and its various "faith-based" initiatives, combined with the morons now in Congress, our ignorance is here to stay, and stay for at least a span of generations.
 
2014-04-07 06:54:11 PM  
No wonder she couldn't find her way back to the Alpha Quadrant.
 
2014-04-07 06:54:14 PM  

hotmoonsauce: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Geocentrism is still a thing people believe? That's off the potato scale level derp.

I don't know why but that cracked me up


psi.edu:8080

"Can't explain that!"
 
2014-04-07 06:54:19 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: LemSkroob: Pimparoo: Much more bothered by the fact Dr. Michio Kaku would be in something like this. The Star Trek lady can say she was just acting.

You would hope a theoretical physicist would be smarter than this.

Michio Kaku is a brilliant guy, but the dude is bordering on savant territory. He can recite (and then correct and rewrite) science textbooks by heart, but he can't remember people he met dozens of times before. He is also easily startled and confused a lot. I wouldnt be surprised if he has no idea what the film is about outside of his segment.

Dr Kaku used to appear fairly regularly on Fox news when physics and astronomy were being discussed. It might be the first time some of their viewers were exposed to actual science.


I wonder if he would have a court case for misrepresenting his views? Though they probably just asked him about dark matter/energy and as soon as he says science doesn't understand them yet they cut away to someone else who says "SEE, SCIENCE IS WRONG!!!"
 
2014-04-07 06:54:49 PM  

Colin O'Scopy: So lemme make sure I get you:

An ACTOR spoke and people are believing what is being said.

By. An. ACTOR.


Some people don't vaccinate their kids because of what an ex porn star said on TV
 
2014-04-07 06:55:59 PM  
You realize Star Trek was fiction right? She's doing another fiction piece. No need to get your panties in a bunch, Subby.
 
2014-04-07 06:57:17 PM  
 
2014-04-07 06:57:58 PM  

SnakeLee: "About one in four believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it."

WTF??


If I ever become a serial killer, I believe I have found my target demographic.
 
2014-04-07 06:58:20 PM  

slimfast: [tzaphiel.files.wordpress.com image 850x1039]


Shut up. That never happened. You hear me? NEVER HAPPENED!
 
2014-04-07 06:58:49 PM  

FlashHarry: Gecko Gingrich: FlashHarry: this is certainly a possibility. after all, hollywood has produced class-a nutbags like michael moriarty

Canadian via Detroit. Rose to fame on a show filmed and set in NYC.

victoria jackson

Floridian. Did work the comedy circuit in Hollywood, but rose to fame on SNL, filmed in NYC.

and chuck norris.

I'll give you that one.

hollywood in the sense of 'the entertainment industry.'



'For instance, "Hollywood" is used as a metonym for the U.S. film industry because of the fame and cultural identity of Hollywood, a district of the city of Los Angeles, California, as the historical center of film studios and film stars.'

It's literally the textbook example of a metronym.
 
2014-04-07 06:58:49 PM  

Colin O'Scopy: So lemme make sure I get you:

An ACTOR spoke and people are believing what is being said.

By. An. ACTOR.


An ACTOR lending what is supposed to be MAINSTREAM SUPPORT and/or GRAVITAS to an alleged DOCUMENTARY.
 
2014-04-07 06:59:01 PM  
Yep - Courtney Love is now bearable compared to this sad woman.
 
2014-04-07 06:59:27 PM  
Learn a lesson from this, Hollywood. If you want a Katherine Hepburn, get Katherine Hepburn.
 
2014-04-07 06:59:47 PM  
I hear Will Smith is bankrolling the Flat Earf society.
 
2014-04-07 06:59:48 PM  
fandangogroovers.files.wordpress.com
'It is not her fault. She was not born Korean.'
 
2014-04-07 07:00:19 PM  

Circusdog320: Mercury and Venus are inferior planets...simply put their orbits are closer to the sun than ours. They show phases...you only see those planets in the morning or evening because they are closer to the sun. You never seen Mercury or Venus late at night. We can observe this because our orbit is beyond those two  planets (as we go around the sun). The superior planets..those beyond Earth...don't show phases Because their orbits are further out than Earth's.

Geocentric theory blown...

[www.greatdreams.com image 620x565]



So you're saying the Sun has planets orbiting it like the Sun and Moon orbit the Earth?
 
2014-04-07 07:00:21 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Learn a lesson from this, Hollywood. If you want a Katherine Hepburn, get Katherine Hepburn.


Even if you have to dig her up.
 
2014-04-07 07:00:25 PM  
If you turn up your monitor really loud you can hear Victoria Jackson screaming to be let in.
 
2014-04-07 07:00:53 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: FlashHarry: so what's the bet here? alcoholism? drug abuse? she's obviously un-hirable in hollywood.

Her voice alone makes me contemplate suicide.


I could never watch Voyager because of her voice. The show was okay; but listening to her just made me want to choke someone--anyone--to death.
 
2014-04-07 07:01:06 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Geo-centrists might actually be dumber than Creationists.

At least with creationism, it's all about interpreting (well ignoring actually) evidence of the past.

To see that the the planets orbit about the Sun, all you have to do is go outside and farking LOOK!


where do they fit in as compared to Flat Earthers though? That's the real question here.


images.sodahead.com

They are at about 0.8 on the Peter Scale.
 
2014-04-07 07:01:37 PM  

BigLuca: I hear Will Smith is bankrolling the Flat Earf society.


He was given a free membership for his birfday.
 
2014-04-07 07:01:46 PM  

buntz: She's a bag of nutbars.  Her, Sisko, they both done lost their minds (have you seen Shatner's "documentary" The Captains?  MAN Sisko is bonkers).

Hell, even Stewart seems to be losing it with his goofy Gandalf selfies!

Who would have thought Shatner and/or Bakula would be the normal ones??


I agree Sisko has lost it.  But c'mon Patrick Stewart is just having one hell of a good time, and not giving a shiat what people think.  Probably the most sane one.
 
2014-04-07 07:02:12 PM  

the_sidewinder: Colin O'Scopy: So lemme make sure I get you:

An ACTOR spoke and people are believing what is being said.

By. An. ACTOR.

Some people don't vaccinate their kids because of what an ex porn star said on TV


It's not even just her.  There are otherwise intelligent people who don't vaccinate their kids, because although they don't "know" that vaccinations can cause autism, they "feel" like it might cause autism.  This is a pretty common issue these days.  Folks who have no formal scientific training blithely ignore the overwhelming evidence to the contrary because of their "feelings" about it.  Take organic products.  There really is no evidence that organic food is any healthier for you than conventional food.  But people, myself included, will often buy it because we "feel" like it must be healthier.
 
2014-04-07 07:02:18 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Geocentrism is still a thing people believe? That's off the potato scale level derp.


There's this book...
 
2014-04-07 07:02:50 PM  
Why does the sun come up? Are all the stars just pinholes in the curtain of night?

You can't explain that.
 
2014-04-07 07:03:45 PM  

fusillade762: cannotsuggestaname: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Geo-centrists might actually be dumber than Creationists.

At least with creationism, it's all about interpreting (well ignoring actually) evidence of the past.

To see that the the planets orbit about the Sun, all you have to do is go outside and farking LOOK!

where do they fit in as compared to Flat Earthers though? That's the real question here.

The Flat Earth thing should be out the window after your first plane ride. Geocentrism isn't quite as easy. So Flat Earthers are dumber.


We prefer the term "Intelligent Curvilinearity," thank you.
 
2014-04-07 07:04:27 PM  

ReverendJynxed: You realize Star Trek was fiction right? She's doing another fiction piece. No need to get your panties in a bunch, Subby.


Do you really believe that?  Do you really think the two are even remotely equal?  I doubt the producers of this film would agree that their work is a piece of fiction.
 
2014-04-07 07:04:55 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Marcus Aurelius: FlashHarry: so what's the bet here? alcoholism? drug abuse? she's obviously un-hirable in hollywood.

Her voice alone makes me contemplate suicide.

I could never watch Voyager because of her voice. The show was okay; but listening to her just made me want to choke someone--anyone--to death.


cdn3.whatculture.com

Choking Chakotay is okay.
 
2014-04-07 07:05:21 PM  

ciberido: FlashHarry: Gecko Gingrich: FlashHarry: this is certainly a possibility. after all, hollywood has produced class-a nutbags like michael moriarty

Canadian via Detroit. Rose to fame on a show filmed and set in NYC.

victoria jackson

Floridian. Did work the comedy circuit in Hollywood, but rose to fame on SNL, filmed in NYC.

and chuck norris.

I'll give you that one.

hollywood in the sense of 'the entertainment industry.'


'For instance, "Hollywood" is used as a metonym for the U.S. film industry because of the fame and cultural identity of Hollywood, a district of the city of Los Angeles, California, as the historical center of film studios and film stars.'

It's literally the textbook example of a metronym.


Metronym: 1) metonym constructed from name of a city or part thereof; 2) heteronym that spends inordinate amount of time cultivating its physical appearance
 
2014-04-07 07:06:06 PM  
Well shiat, everyone's got bills to pay, and that picture's not exactly saying she's got a lot of other options on the table to choose from.
 
2014-04-07 07:07:52 PM  

the_sidewinder: Serious Post on Serious Thread: [note to K.M., I will pay you $50 for that service, for realsies]

You can get it for Mark Meer for free, in several voices of your choosing

/I have him as my voicemail message as both Shepard and a Vorcha


Link or it didn't happen.

And nun a dat lmgtfy bs
 
2014-04-07 07:08:02 PM  
I figured she'd be the crazy one. Either her or Scott Bakula.
 
2014-04-07 07:08:20 PM  
Not all can handle the truth.....

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
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