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(ABC)   Chili's support of the National Autism Association proves mercurial   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 59
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2014-04-07 05:17:48 PM  
Clever subby.

/dnrtfa
 
2014-04-07 05:17:50 PM  
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2014-04-07 05:31:46 PM  
The Golden Corral is where the real retards go to eat.
 
2014-04-07 05:40:03 PM  
"There has always been a lot of debate,"

No, there really hasn't.
 
2014-04-07 06:02:59 PM  
Well, good. I guess I'll continue to not set foot inside Chili's for any reason whatsoever, only instead of for moral and social reasons it'll just be because their food is terrible.
 
2014-04-07 06:10:26 PM  
I love this headline so much. Subby, come in and take a bow.
 
2014-04-07 06:18:20 PM  
That'll do subby. That'll do.

/smile of proud satisfaction
 
2014-04-07 06:53:43 PM  
Bravo, subby (golf claps)...
 
2014-04-07 06:53:46 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, good. I guess I'll continue to not set foot inside Chili's for any reason whatsoever, only instead of for moral and social reasons it'll just be because their food is terrible.


Yeah, you're going to Applebee's instead. I hear ya. ;)
 
2014-04-07 07:06:11 PM  
Was going to come in here and add some win, but the headline is already full.
 
2014-04-07 07:11:24 PM  
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2014-04-07 07:12:38 PM  

Mark Ratner: Pocket Ninja: Well, good. I guess I'll continue to not set foot inside Chili's for any reason whatsoever, only instead of for moral and social reasons it'll just be because their food is terrible.

Yeah, you're going to Applebee's instead. I hear ya. ;)


F*CK THAT SH*T, PABST BLUE RIBBON DENNY'S!
 
2014-04-07 07:14:07 PM  
HOTY contender, 2014.

Want to know who is just floating through life? The real salt of the earth?  You know, morons? Look in a DineEquity/Darden/Brinkers Int. restaurant.
 
2014-04-07 07:15:35 PM  

fusillade762: "There has always been a lot of debate,"

No, there really hasn't.


They has been a lot of what passes for debate in today's media.

Side Derp: Lemme yell this thing that feels true to me
Side Fact: But here are the facts
SD: DONT'T YOU UNDERSTAND IM YELLING AS LOUD AS I CAN HERE!?!?
SF: But that had no bearing on the facts
SD: PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
 
2014-04-07 07:17:50 PM  
1. But a section of its website also states that it believes vaccinations can "trigger or exacerbate autism in some, if not many, children."

2. Wendy Fournier, president of the National Autism Association, said in a phone interview that she was "shocked" by the backlash and "this group of individuals that is trying to pigeonhole us as anti-vaccine."


Sorry babe, can't have it both ways.
 
2014-04-07 07:19:46 PM  

Mark Ratner: Pocket Ninja: Well, good. I guess I'll continue to not set foot inside Chili's for any reason whatsoever, only instead of for moral and social reasons it'll just be because their food is terrible.

Yeah, you're going to Applebee's instead. I hear ya. ;)


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2014-04-07 07:22:55 PM  
I want my baby back, baby back inoculations.

Doesn't really roll off the tongue
 
2014-04-07 07:23:53 PM  
I think Autism is a bunch of crap - Bad parenting is to blame!
 
2014-04-07 07:25:57 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I love this headline so much. Subby, come in and take a bow.


<<bows>> Thank you all... was quite unexpected. I take back all the bad things I said due to my rejected submissions. ;^)
 
2014-04-07 07:29:58 PM  
Golf clap, subby. You're not getting enough support in this thread.

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2014-04-07 07:30:01 PM  

MrKevvy: ecmoRandomNumbers: I love this headline so much. Subby, come in and take a bow.

<<bows>> Thank you all... was quite unexpected. I take back all the bad things I said due to my rejected submissions. ;^)


You only have two green lights? Pffft..weak. Until you have three, you're a pretender.
 
2014-04-07 07:30:35 PM  
HOTY candidate, right here.
 
2014-04-07 07:32:21 PM  
👍 for subby
 
2014-04-07 07:38:45 PM  

fusillade762: "There has always been a lot of debate,"

No, there really hasn't.


One long since discredited and retracted study, whose author was struck off the medical register I believe. So zero debate because it's bullshiat.
 
2014-04-07 07:48:47 PM  
Wendy Fournier, president of the National Autism Association, said in a phone interview that she was "shocked" by the backlash and "this group of individuals that is trying to pigeonhole us as anti-vaccine."

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc etc.

"We haven't even looked at that page - it's been up there for years," she said of the section on the group's site that says vaccines can trigger autism.

What are you alleging, that hackers got hold of your passwords?  You have NO IDEA how that got on your website?  If your group doesn't hold those positions, then take down the page.

For now, she said no changes would be made to the site because that might be criticized as well.

Oh fark you, biatch.
 
2014-04-07 07:53:14 PM  

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2014-04-07 07:58:16 PM  
I think they should change charities rather than cancel the event?

It's like all the people who got pissed about the world relief org that agreed to hire gheys.  Is it like all of a sudden that child that needed your $35 per month doesn't because some dude in the HQ is boning another dude?

If Chilis wants to help Autism, they should help Autism.
 
2014-04-07 08:00:41 PM  

FTA:

"We haven't even looked at that page - it's been up there for years," she said of the section on the group's site that says vaccines can trigger autism.

lolwut?

 
2014-04-07 08:01:30 PM  
Good job, subby.

And the NAA lady says, "It hasn't been answered whether or not vaccines can cause autism."

Uh, huh, but they aren't anti-vax. It sounds to me like they want to straddle the "debate" so as to keep getting support from all ASD parents and mild ASD patients.
 
2014-04-07 08:02:07 PM  

Mark Ratner: You only have two green lights? Pffft..weak. Until you have three, you're a pretender.


Oh bah... check my 720 day list of rejects. There were some goodies in there and I was especially robbed on the last one. 2/15 is still way over the average.
//snark
 
2014-04-07 08:04:58 PM  

MrCrunchyToes: FTA:"We haven't even looked at that page - it's been up there for years," she said of the section on the group's site that says vaccines can trigger autism.lolwut?


You've obviously never run a website.  I'm sure that's possible.  Our web server has 50,000 pages and I have no idea what stuff could be there from 1997.

There was a time before the world had everything figured out when that was thought to be at least a possible cause.

Btw, the signs of autism often present themselves around the time kids get their 2 year shots. Kids who talk and do all sorts of stuff all of a sudden, stop.  Obviously correlation does not equal causation, but it was something to investigate.

You know someone just did a google search of their particular site just to stir crap up.  If they're out there touting anti-vax that's one thing, but this could just be people being stupid, too.
 
2014-04-07 08:15:00 PM  
Next time just lower the price of my meal and leave the charity to me.
 
2014-04-07 08:22:10 PM  

MrKevvy: ecmoRandomNumbers: I love this headline so much. Subby, come in and take a bow.

<<bows>> Thank you all... was quite unexpected. I take back all the bad things I said due to my rejected submissions. ;^)


Very well done Subs.  And now you're one of Them.

Subby sucks because he's part of the "in" crowd and I never get anything greenlit even though I'm first and funniest and wah.

/well sometimes I am
 
2014-04-07 08:24:32 PM  

brimed03: Very well done Subs. And now you're one of Them


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2014-04-07 08:46:22 PM  

davynelson: 1. But a section of its website also states that it believes vaccinations can "trigger or exacerbate autism in some, if not many, children."

2. Wendy Fournier, president of the National Autism Association, said in a phone interview that she was "shocked" by the backlash and "this group of individuals that is trying to pigeonhole us as anti-vaccine."

Sorry babe, can't have it both ways.


Those two statements aren't mutually exclusive. It's not impossible for a person to believe that vaccines can trigger autism and that vaccines are good. Perhaps not likely, but possible.
 
2014-04-07 08:50:34 PM  

svanmeter: Next time just lower the price of my meal and leave the charity to me.


Your charity came from your income - why should they discount their income to aid your charity ?
How about you forget your charity and let the people paying you to do it ?

// see how that works yet ?
 
2014-04-07 09:02:37 PM  
Everybody knows your headlines are off the charts, subby.
 
2014-04-07 09:06:25 PM  

Rand's lacy underwear: Everybody knows your headlines are off the charts, subby.


Downwards. ;^)
 
2014-04-07 09:23:06 PM  
I don't even
 
2014-04-07 09:47:44 PM  
Good for them. Still not eating their shiat food, but good for them.
 
2014-04-07 10:11:49 PM  

That Guy Jeff: Good for them. Still not eating their shiat food, but good for them.


Their boneless wings aren't bad.
 
2014-04-07 10:38:32 PM  
I hate Autism Awareness Month. First, because it's promoted by Autism Speaks, an organization I quite solidly loathe.

Secondly, because the whole damn month I get people asking me what I think about this and whether I think my kid is autistic because of vaccines because someone they know is positive that being within ten feet of a vaccine caused their kid's autism. Because the 'mommy intuition' of someone with a tenth grade science education who can't even pronounce means more than the knowledge of the best minds in infectious disease, immunology, and epidemiology on the planet.

I end up having the same discussion over and over with people who find it easier to believe that almost every physician and government on the planet is either stupid or part of a conspiracy to hurt children for profit than to believe that one profit-driven ass falsified data and published a bad study.

Vaccines have nothing to do with autism.
Vaccinate your damn kids.
 
2014-04-07 10:51:10 PM  

reprobate1125: You've obviously never run a website.  I'm sure that's possible.  Our web server has 50,000 pages and I have no idea what stuff could be there from 1997.

There was a time before the world had everything figured out when that was thought to be at least a possible cause.

Btw, the signs of autism often present themselves around the time kids get their 2 year shots. Kids who talk and do all sorts of stuff all of a sudden, stop.  Obviously correlation does not equal causation, but it was something to investigate.

You know someone just did a google search of their particular site just to stir crap up.  If they're out there touting anti-vax that's one thing, but this could just be people being stupid, too.


Fine, let's give them the benefit of the doubt there.  So then, since that outdated, buried page doesn't really represent their views, I'm sure they will take it down or change it, so that people are not confused in the future...

For now, she said no changes would be made to the site because that might be criticized as well. 

Oh, well then.  Nope, they deserve all the shiat they are getting.
 
2014-04-07 11:27:21 PM  
in another section of its site, the group says that "informed consent is critical and each parent should have the freedom and information necessary to make the best decision for their child."

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Informed consent is a good thing. Your doctor's opinion on what is the best route for your health is important, but at least do your homework.

Many people decide to vaccinate without having considered or read any of the risks in doing so. I have no problem with those who have read the data and concluded that they would like to vaccinate. I have no problem with those who have read the data and concluded they do not want to vaccinate.

I don't like when people vaccinate because their doctor routinely vaccinated them without information. I also don't like when people don't vaccinate because it isn't "natural" as their primary motive.

There are plenty of good reasons to vaccinate, and plenty of good reasons not too. It's an important personal health care decision. Don't make it lightly.
 
2014-04-07 11:44:13 PM  

InfamousG: in another section of its site, the group says that "informed consent is critical and each parent should have the freedom and information necessary to make the best decision for their child."

Imokwiththis.jpg

Informed consent is a good thing. Your doctor's opinion on what is the best route for your health is important, but at least do your homework.

Many people decide to vaccinate without having considered or read any of the risks in doing so. I have no problem with those who have read the data and concluded that they would like to vaccinate. I have no problem with those who have read the data and concluded they do not want to vaccinate.

I don't like when people vaccinate because their doctor routinely vaccinated them without information. I also don't like when people don't vaccinate because it isn't "natural" as their primary motive.

There are plenty of good reasons to vaccinate, and plenty of good reasons not too. It's an important personal health care decision. Don't make it lightly.


The last few times I went in for vaccinations they were required to give me pages upon pages of information about the pros and cons of the shots I was getting, and made me sign that I have received the information.
 
2014-04-08 12:03:10 AM  

InfernalCatfish: reprobate1125: You've obviously never run a website.  I'm sure that's possible.  Our web server has 50,000 pages and I have no idea what stuff could be there from 1997.

There was a time before the world had everything figured out when that was thought to be at least a possible cause.

Btw, the signs of autism often present themselves around the time kids get their 2 year shots. Kids who talk and do all sorts of stuff all of a sudden, stop.  Obviously correlation does not equal causation, but it was something to investigate.

You know someone just did a google search of their particular site just to stir crap up.  If they're out there touting anti-vax that's one thing, but this could just be people being stupid, too.

Fine, let's give them the benefit of the doubt there.  So then, since that outdated, buried page doesn't really represent their views, I'm sure they will take it down or change it, so that people are not confused in the future...

For now, she said no changes would be made to the site because that might be criticized as well. 

Oh, well then.  Nope, they deserve all the shiat they are getting.


Again, I suggested giving the money to a different charity in my previous post...instead of canceling the event.  But yeah, I get what you're saying.
 
2014-04-08 12:14:25 AM  

reprobate1125: Again, I suggested giving the money to a different charity in my previous post...instead of canceling the event.  But yeah, I get what you're saying.


That drags out the PR disaster. They'd not only have to choose one carefully and quickly, but they'd also have to make all the arrangements with that group quickly and carefully. For you and me, it might mean just writing a check. For a public company, it's a little more complicated.

From a PR standpoint, better to nip it in the bud and let the publicity fade. They can always come back at the end of the month and say, "We've decided to donate XX% of this month's profits to YY autism charity that isn't full of loons."

That has the added value of bringing the positive publicity back on them when they can control the message.
 
2014-04-08 12:37:53 AM  

Mark Ratner: Pocket Ninja: Well, good. I guess I'll continue to not set foot inside Chili's for any reason whatsoever, only instead of for moral and social reasons it'll just be because their food is terrible.

Yeah, you're going to Applebee's instead. I hear ya. ;)


Maybe things are different where you are, but in my neck of the woods, Applebee's' microwave ovens are WAY better than Chili's'.
 
2014-04-08 12:48:01 AM  
Incidentally, slightly more serious post: we do not know what causes autism, but these days, we do know, with a high degree of certainty that childhood vaccinations do not. Nor do "refrigerator moms", bisphenol in baby bottles, or watching Spongebob Squarepants.

How can we know this? Because we know that the brain changes that eventually result in autism are in parts of the brain that are formed during prenatal development.

Now, any number of environmental factors in pregnant women could be a factor (though it'd be irresponsible to speculate until we know more - the last thing we need in this debate is more excuses to heap guilt on the mothers). But unless they're putting thiotimoline in the vaccines, there's no way a vaccine given at age 2 is going to cause brain damage that occurred 30 months earlier.
 
2014-04-08 08:08:51 AM  
Walked into a chili's once with friends after an evening of drinking. As soon as I smelled the food I lost my appetite. Ate only celery sticks, while my friends had wings etc.. I was the only one not puking and wishing for a quick merciful death the next morning. Have avoided the place ever since. The nose knows.
 
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