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(NYPost)   Old and busted: Using a coffee shop as your personal office space for freelancing. New slackiness: Using a bar as your personal office space for freelancing. " The espresso machines and music are usually way too loud"   (nypost.com) divider line 28
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2014-04-07 02:25:58 PM  
I've been doing this for a couple of years, continuously (but slowly) refining my abilities to work from anywhere in the world, as much as possible .. and "anywhere" almost always means "a bar".  The company keeps me traveling a lot, and bars with WiFi are easy to find in any town anywhere in the us practically.  Sometimes, it's a coffee shop, sometimes it's events with the family, sometimes I even do work from my office or home.. but I've spent a lot of time concentrating on improving my ability to do what I need to do from anywhere, specifically so I don't have to be anywhere inparticular.  It makes life SO much easier for those who can do it.

Hardware setup:
1 huge desktop build machine at the office
1 pretty beefy developer laptop (+1 monitor) mostly permanently connected at my home office
1 fairly powerful desktop machine with 3 monitors
1 cheap travel laptop
1 Android phone that has both USB and WiFi tethering ability for when I'm in an area where the WiFi sucks or is non-existent

Software setup:
MobaXTerm, WinSwitch to provide remote access from my main desktop/travel laptop to the office laptop/desktop
Splashtop, to provide remote access to any of those machines from my tablet/phone - also allows me to use my iPad as a second monitor for my travel laptop
Synergy+ to provide ability to directly control the office laptop and travel laptop from my office desktop
Dropbox to sync all files between office and home office and travel laptop
Git to sync repositories with the company
Skype for meetings, as well as hooked up to provide a camera view of the system that I'm working with, so I can get a visual on the interface that I work on even when I'm remote. I can command it from remote, but I need a camera view as the system does not have any kind of remote display software

Then on the two machines I actually use for work, I have local copies of Visual Studio, Qt Creator, Komodo IDE, and then I operate on the files in the Dropbox directories.  This basically allows me to work with all the files in local speed, then I can switch over to my build boxes, build the system, push to hardware, restart the hardware, and test.  Also make use of emulated hardware and trying to ensure that my software all works on a windows or linux desktop as well, so i don't have to always check every change on device.
 
2014-04-07 02:52:29 PM  
So long as you're not doing it during peak drinking hours.
 
2014-04-07 02:55:54 PM  
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That's why you set your meeting at the locale pub. That way if one of you is late the other can drink ale.


or whatever he said, I was drinking at the time
 
2014-04-07 03:27:59 PM  
Hemingway approves.
 
2014-04-07 03:31:39 PM  
I've worked from the bar in the afternoon before when things were going on at home, author is right that in the middle of the day it's actually much more pleasant and quiet to work at a bar.  And beer beats coffee.
 
2014-04-07 03:34:09 PM  
In wanting to be the modern Feynman I asked a few strip clubs about this and they said no laptops, because cameras.
 
2014-04-07 03:34:14 PM  
So the Def Leppard on the jukebox isn't going to bother ya?
 
2014-04-07 03:45:28 PM  
I wouldnt intentionally try to work at a bar, but the Starbucks I visited last week was just terrible. The music was blasting inside and on the terrance. It smelled like unwashed customers, the tables were dirty, and the barristas rude. I might as well have been in a bar.
 
2014-04-07 03:46:14 PM  

lilplatinum: I've worked from the bar in the afternoon before when things were going on at home, author is right that in the middle of the day it's actually much more pleasant and quiet to work at a bar.  And beer beats coffee.


I can corroborate this.

I actually get a lot of my best work done in bars. Quiet, dark - the opposite of most coffee shops, plus your office type friends come to where you are after work. My end of work commute consists of giving my laptop to the bartender in exchange for (another) beer.

/and if I forget to pick it up from their office before I stumble home, then I just have to work from the bar again next day as well ...
 
2014-04-07 03:57:20 PM  
I've actually thought about doing that, except I don't think any decent bars in my area actually have wifi. :(

Also I'd probably get too drunk...
 
2014-04-07 03:57:20 PM  
I must be half a retard. I am an independent writer and editor, and work out of my home. My loft is my office. I thrive in a quiet environment. When I'm done, and need to enjoy conversation and company of fun people, then I head to my favorite watering holes.

Besides, God help humanity of I drink and write. Not sure what kind of dark forces will be unleashed from my proclivity to dance with Dionysus.
 
2014-04-07 04:01:39 PM  

unfarkingbelievable


Besides, God help humanity of I drink and write. Not sure what kind of dark forces will be unleashed from my proclivity to dance with Dionysus.


Yeah, you might type 'of' instead of 'if' and then all hell will break loose.


:-)
 
2014-04-07 04:03:59 PM  
I personally work much better with a bit of booze in me, bars are a bad deal for work though because I inevitably get talking to people.
 
2014-04-07 04:04:59 PM  

ekdikeo4: I've been doing this for a couple of years, continuously (but slowly) refining my abilities to work from anywhere in the world, as much as possible .. and "anywhere" almost always means "a bar".  The company keeps me traveling a lot, and bars with WiFi are easy to find in any town anywhere in the us practically.  Sometimes, it's a coffee shop, sometimes it's events with the family, sometimes I even do work from my office or home.. but I've spent a lot of time concentrating on improving my ability to do what I need to do from anywhere, specifically so I don't have to be anywhere inparticular.  It makes life SO much easier for those who can do it.

Hardware setup:
1 huge desktop build machine at the office
1 pretty beefy developer laptop (+1 monitor) mostly permanently connected at my home office
1 fairly powerful desktop machine with 3 monitors
1 cheap travel laptop
1 Android phone that has both USB and WiFi tethering ability for when I'm in an area where the WiFi sucks or is non-existent

Software setup:
MobaXTerm, WinSwitch to provide remote access from my main desktop/travel laptop to the office laptop/desktop
Splashtop, to provide remote access to any of those machines from my tablet/phone - also allows me to use my iPad as a second monitor for my travel laptop
Synergy+ to provide ability to directly control the office laptop and travel laptop from my office desktop
Dropbox to sync all files between office and home office and travel laptop
Git to sync repositories with the company
Skype for meetings, as well as hooked up to provide a camera view of the system that I'm working with, so I can get a visual on the interface that I work on even when I'm remote. I can command it from remote, but I need a camera view as the system does not have any kind of remote display software

Then on the two machines I actually use for work, I have local copies of Visual Studio, Qt Creator, Komodo IDE, and then I operate on the files in the Dropbox directories.  This basically allo ...


This thread.  THIS is the thread you've been waiting for all your life!
 
2014-04-07 04:51:58 PM  
"This thread. THIS is the thread you've been waiting for all your life!" -- normally I'm one to discourage such condescention, but I lol'd.
 
2014-04-07 04:54:11 PM  
Sir, you're going to have to move.

You're disturbing the parishioners and church ladies. When I say move, of course, I mean leave. And when I say disturbing the parishioners, I mean your noisy masturbation over this Fark thing you seem obsessed with.
 
2014-04-07 05:00:34 PM  

brantgoose: Sir, you're going to have to move.

You're disturbing the parishioners and church ladies. When I say move, of course, I mean leave. And when I say disturbing the parishioners, I mean your noisy masturbation over this Fark thing you seem obsessed with.


'Disturbing the parishioners' is my new favorite euphemism

/I'll be in my bunk
 
2014-04-07 05:01:39 PM  
A friend of mine has been doing this for years in Austin.

I still prefer coffee shops since they tend to have more plugs available, like the one I'm sitting in right now.  Starbucks sucks.  Slowest wifi anywhere.  It's like going back to the dialup days.
 
2014-04-07 05:03:25 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: I must be half a retard. I am an independent writer and editor, and work out of my home. My loft is my office. I thrive in a quiet environment. When I'm done, and need to enjoy conversation and company of fun people, then I head to my favorite watering holes.

Besides, God help humanity of I drink and write. Not sure what kind of dark forces will be unleashed from my proclivity to dance with Dionysus.


I'm the same way.  My brain can't process two things at once- and that includes music and even just ambient noise.  Everyone's different, but I just can't focus *at all* if there's music on, or people are talking.

I'm lucky (as you are, too) to have a loft all to my own where I can work alone and in the quiet.
 
2014-04-07 05:15:39 PM  

ekdikeo4: I've been doing this for a couple of years, continuously (but slowly) refining my abilities to work from anywhere in the world, as much as possible .. and "anywhere" almost always means "a bar".  The company keeps me traveling a lot, and bars with WiFi are easy to find in any town anywhere in the us practically.  Sometimes, it's a coffee shop, sometimes it's events with the family, sometimes I even do work from my office or home.. but I've spent a lot of time concentrating on improving my ability to do what I need to do from anywhere, specifically so I don't have to be anywhere inparticular.  It makes life SO much easier for those who can do it.

Hardware setup:
1 huge desktop build machine at the office
1 pretty beefy developer laptop (+1 monitor) mostly permanently connected at my home office
1 fairly powerful desktop machine with 3 monitors


My monitor is +2/+3 vs. MMOs.
 
2014-04-07 05:39:32 PM  
I've been doing this since college, and I seem to do my best work in bars.

The place I go to these days always sets me up with a free bloody mary when I sit down and start working.  It's a freakin' dumpy little place, and some of the questions from other patrons who see me working are, well...  inspiring, to say the least.
 
2014-04-07 05:47:40 PM  
I'm pretty sure using a bar as an office or meeting room isn't anywhere but new.  If anything, it has been a place for business discussions since the first pub was built.  The coffee shop was a fad that is starting to fade, is the more likely thought.
 
2014-04-07 06:03:49 PM  
Added difficulty: you're a bartender.
 
2014-04-07 06:09:31 PM  

ekdikeo4: I've been doing this for a couple of years, continuously (but slowly) refining my abilities to work from anywhere in the world, as much as possible .. and "anywhere" almost always means "a bar".  The company keeps me traveling a lot, and bars with WiFi are easy to find in any town anywhere in the us practically.  Sometimes, it's a coffee shop, sometimes it's events with the family, sometimes I even do work from my office or home.. but I've spent a lot of time concentrating on improving my ability to do what I need to do from anywhere, specifically so I don't have to be anywhere inparticular.  It makes life SO much easier for those who can do it.


Vodka Zombie: I've been doing this since college, and I seem to do my best work in bars.

The place I go to these days always sets me up with a free bloody mary when I sit down and start working.  It's a freakin' dumpy little place, and some of the questions from other patrons who see me working are, well...  inspiring, to say the least.


I'm typing this from a bar right now.  Do I win?

I've been self-employed with an IT support services company I own with 4 employees.  Between my home office, client sites, and the pub, I've got it covered.  I have no need of formal office space.  The bonus is that a lot of the other regulars are self-employed as well, so we're each other's clients.  I probably get 75% of my new business through people I meet there.  So networking is built right in.  And it gives you an opportunity to communicate work details on an informal basis, which is the touch an email doesn't convey.  Since we do so much work remotely, that's often a thing that's easy to forget about.

I think that there is very little business that can't be conducted over a pint.  And the people that agree with me end up as my clients and partners.
 
2014-04-07 07:00:59 PM  
I think there's a difference in the term "Bar" between New York and oh, say... West Allis, WI (Which tends to have a DIVE bar on every corner)... would I take my laptop in one of those places? Not unless I was into Pabst drinking dirty old men who smell like piss, old cigarettes and sweaty balls. Plus those places don't have wifi anyways i'm sure. The word "Bar" in this instance definitely could use some clarification.
 
2014-04-07 08:23:39 PM  

LtDarkstar: I think there's a difference in the term "Bar" between New York and oh, say... West Allis, WI (Which tends to have a DIVE bar on every corner)... would I take my laptop in one of those places? Not unless I was into Pabst drinking dirty old men who smell like piss, old cigarettes and sweaty balls. Plus those places don't have wifi anyways i'm sure. The word "Bar" in this instance definitely could use some clarification.


Yeah, this. I wouldn't do my compliance/regulatory job from a bar around here, as much as I love drinking.

/team meetings, on the other hand...
 
2014-04-08 04:42:30 AM  

ekdikeo4: I've been doing this for a couple of years, continuously (but slowly) refining my abilities to work from anywhere in the world, as much as possible .. and "anywhere" almost always means "a bar".  The company keeps me traveling a lot, and bars with WiFi are easy to find in any town anywhere in the us practically.  Sometimes, it's a coffee shop, sometimes it's events with the family, sometimes I even do work from my office or home.. but I've spent a lot of time concentrating on improving my ability to do what I need to do from anywhere, specifically so I don't have to be anywhere inparticular.  It makes life SO much easier for those who can do it.

Hardware setup:
1 huge desktop build machine at the office
1 pretty beefy developer laptop (+1 monitor) mostly permanently connected at my home office
1 fairly powerful desktop machine with 3 monitors
1 cheap travel laptop
1 Android phone that has both USB and WiFi tethering ability for when I'm in an area where the WiFi sucks or is non-existent

Software setup:
MobaXTerm, WinSwitch to provide remote access from my main desktop/travel laptop to the office laptop/desktop
Splashtop, to provide remote access to any of those machines from my tablet/phone - also allows me to use my iPad as a second monitor for my travel laptop
Synergy+ to provide ability to directly control the office laptop and travel laptop from my office desktop
Dropbox to sync all files between office and home office and travel laptop
Git to sync repositories with the company
Skype for meetings, as well as hooked up to provide a camera view of the system that I'm working with, so I can get a visual on the interface that I work on even when I'm remote. I can command it from remote, but I need a camera view as the system does not have any kind of remote display software

Then on the two machines I actually use for work, I have local copies of Visual Studio, Qt Creator, Komodo IDE, and then I operate on the files in the Dropbox directories.  This basically allo ...


In the old country they just put beer in the vending machines at work. It saved them a lot of trouble apparently.
 
2014-04-08 09:14:46 AM  
I used to work with a pretty interesting self made that was like this - and we did it over a decade ago. He had four businesses. I only worked one, but it was the, somewhat, traveling business and had my finger in all of them; tending to answer the phone and dealing with crap while he drove. Being a cheap bastard is one of the reasons he was rich and Jack in the Box had free senior coffee at the time. I noticed they had an electrical receptacle under one of the tables. We would bring in cells, laptops and a printer. Meet in the morning for breakfast, work through lunch and pack it up.  Kind of embarrassing, but he always paid. Not a bad guy to work for; he would always pay for whatever you wanted to eat, but would order the cheapest thing on the menu for himself. Like, order the liver an onions even though he hated liver, then buy something over the phone for a half mil, like he was buying a book on Amazon.
 
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