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(Variety)   Captain America set to battle a cold-blooded murderer and Ben Affleck on May 6, 2016   (variety.com) divider line 166
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2014-04-07 01:01:02 PM  
♫WHENNN Captain America throws his mighty shieeeld,
All those who chose to oppose his shield must yieeeld!
If he's led to a fight and a duel is due,
Then the red and white and the blue'll come through
When Captain America throws his mighty shieeeld!♫ :D
 
2014-04-07 01:23:47 PM  
Nah, DC will blink.
 
2014-04-07 01:27:03 PM  
So nerds have two movies to see that day and not just one.

Isn't that a nerd win? Or are the nerds gonna have the typical Marvel VS DC fight?

/nerds
 
2014-04-07 01:32:44 PM  
Yeah, they're gonna change that.
 
2014-04-07 01:34:34 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Nah, DC will blink.


This
 
2014-04-07 01:38:34 PM  
Disney should release Star Wars 7 that day.
 
2014-04-07 01:46:42 PM  

JerseyTim: Disney should release Star Wars 7 that day.


Naw they're saving that for the weekend Superman gets moved to.
 
2014-04-07 01:47:14 PM  
LOL, Marvel's "I s**t on your house" moment v. DC.

Considering the praise for "CA:TWS", I'd be very concerned if I were DC at this point.
 
2014-04-07 01:51:42 PM  
I know I'd rather see Batman Vs. Superman. I'm getting a bit burned out on Marvel.
 
2014-04-07 01:52:06 PM  

Captain Steroid: ♫WHENNN Captain America throws his mighty shieeeld,
All those who chose to oppose his shield must yieeeld!
If he's led to a fight and a duel is due,
Then the red and white and the blue'll come through
When Captain America throws his mighty shieeeld!♫ :D


and THERE'S my brainworrrrrrm for the day.
damb you, you everlovin' hulk - Hulk!
 
2014-04-07 01:57:44 PM  

Confabulat: I know I'd rather see Batman Vs. Superman. I'm getting a bit burned out on Marvel.


I'd agree, except for the fact that other than the Nolan movies, the DC movies are all piles of shiat.

Also, Marvel seems to be aware of this, and they're expanding out. Stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy and Dr. Strange are going to be pretty different from what we've seen so far, I think.
 
2014-04-07 02:22:08 PM  
FTFA: particularly in light of the non-blockbuster performance last by "Man of Steel," which grossed $668 million worldwide.

That sentence boggles my mind.
 
2014-04-07 02:23:54 PM  

Confabulat: I know I'd rather see Batman Vs. Superman. I'm getting a bit burned out on Marvel.


You also like that show that comes on after Marvels Agents of Shield. Knowing this, it puts me deeper on the side of "I would rather watch more Captain America if I had to choose".
 
2014-04-07 02:24:23 PM  

DamnYankees: Confabulat: I know I'd rather see Batman Vs. Superman. I'm getting a bit burned out on Marvel.

I'd agree, except for the fact that other than the Nolan movies, the DC movies are all piles of shiat.

Also, Marvel seems to be aware of this, and they're expanding out. Stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy and Dr. Strange are going to be pretty different from what we've seen so far, I think.


Without kickstarting that pissing match again...Man of Steel is pretty good, and fairly awesome.  Otherwise, agreed on all counts.

Marvel's strength lies in its' diversity of material, it's willingness to try where others (read: DC) wouldn't, and the fact that everybody seems to want to give it their all.  The Winter Soldier, just like pretty much all of the MCU movies, worked because it was a genre movie with superheroes, not the other way around.  DC doesn't get this, and they're going to go for the full superhero spectacle, and unless someone over there pulls their head just far enough out of their ass to notice the difference in smell, Batman vs. Superman doesn't stand a chance.
 
2014-04-07 02:24:36 PM  

BizarreMan: JerseyTim: Disney should release Star Wars 7 that day.

Naw they're saving that for the weekend Superman gets moved to.


That would be awesome!
 
2014-04-07 02:25:44 PM  
Subby, Ben Affleck is no longer involved with Batman v Superman.
 
2014-04-07 02:26:32 PM  

Clutch2013: Without kickstarting that pissing match again...Man of Steel is pretty good, and fairly awesome.  Otherwise, agreed on all counts.


Did we have a pissing match? I thought Man of Steel was terrible. The best thing in that movie is the 3 minute trailer, which is a genuinely brilliant trailer. But anyways...

Clutch2013: Marvel's strength lies in its' diversity of material, it's willingness to try where others (read: DC) wouldn't, and the fact that everybody seems to want to give it their all.  The Winter Soldier, just like pretty much all of the MCU movies, worked because it was a genre movie with superheroes, not the other way around.  DC doesn't get this, and they're going to go for the full superhero spectacle, and unless someone over there pulls their head just far enough out of their ass to notice the difference in smell, Batman vs. Superman doesn't stand a chance.


I disagree with almost all of this. Marvel's strength (at least in the main Marvel movies, not including X-Men and Spiderman) is the impeccable casting and writing. They nail this stuff over and over and over again. And that's HARD.
 
2014-04-07 02:26:35 PM  

timujin: FTFA: particularly in light of the non-blockbuster performance last by "Man of Steel," which grossed $668 million worldwide.

That sentence boggles my mind.


Perception is everything.
 
2014-04-07 02:27:11 PM  

IanMoone: Subby, Ben Affleck is no longer involved with Batman v Superman.


Since when?
 
2014-04-07 02:27:50 PM  

IanMoone: Subby, Ben Affleck is no longer involved with Batman v Superman.


i.kinja-img.com
 
2014-04-07 02:27:58 PM  

IanMoone: Subby, Ben Affleck is no longer involved with Batman v Superman.


Uh, where did you hear that?
 
2014-04-07 02:28:12 PM  

timujin: FTFA: particularly in light of the non-blockbuster performance last by "Man of Steel," which grossed $668 million worldwide.

That sentence boggles my mind.


Probably referring to the reviews. Winter Soldier is currently beating Man of Steel on Rotten Tomatoes by 33%
 
2014-04-07 02:28:43 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: IanMoone: Subby, Ben Affleck is no longer involved with Batman v Superman.

Uh, where did you hear that?


He's trolling.

http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well-being/blogs/ben-afflecks-batm an -body-to-have-real-life-superhero-look

That's from 3 days ago.
 
2014-04-07 02:29:04 PM  

Clutch2013: The Winter Soldier, just like pretty much all of the MCU movies, worked because it was a genre movie with superheroes, not the other way around.


^^^ THIS ^^^^

My girlfriend knows nothing about superheroes or comic books and doesn't know Captain America from Captain & Tennille (ask your parents, kids!) and she enjoyed the crap out of the movie.
 
2014-04-07 02:30:25 PM  

IanMoone: Subby, Ben Affleck is no longer involved with Batman v Superman.


So... you didn't happen to notice the date of the article where you read that then?
 
2014-04-07 02:30:35 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Nah, DC will blink.


Warner Brothers. It's not Marvel and DC, it's Disney and Warner Brothers.
 
2014-04-07 02:31:02 PM  
Batman was my favorite comic book character, but given the choice I'll go see Captain America. IMO, the Nolan films are as good as you'll ever see Batman on the screen. Anything after that is bound to be a letdown, especially if Batman and Superman are supposed to be fight for some reason.

There's only one time, ONE TIME I need to see Batman and Superman fighting, so if you aren't filming The Dark Knight Returns, then it doesn't make any sense.
 
2014-04-07 02:31:37 PM  

timujin: FTFA: particularly in light of the non-blockbuster performance last by "Man of Steel," which grossed $668 million worldwide.

That sentence boggles my mind.


The Avengers, IM3, and the last two Nolan Batman movies breaking the billion dollar mark seems to have altered perceptions just a smidge...
 
2014-04-07 02:32:54 PM  

DamnYankees: Clutch2013: Without kickstarting that pissing match again...Man of Steel is pretty good, and fairly awesome.  Otherwise, agreed on all counts.

Did we have a pissing match? I thought Man of Steel was terrible. The best thing in that movie is the 3 minute trailer, which is a genuinely brilliant trailer. But anyways...

Clutch2013: Marvel's strength lies in its' diversity of material, it's willingness to try where others (read: DC) wouldn't, and the fact that everybody seems to want to give it their all.  The Winter Soldier, just like pretty much all of the MCU movies, worked because it was a genre movie with superheroes, not the other way around.  DC doesn't get this, and they're going to go for the full superhero spectacle, and unless someone over there pulls their head just far enough out of their ass to notice the difference in smell, Batman vs. Superman doesn't stand a chance.

I disagree with almost all of this. Marvel's strength (at least in the main Marvel movies, not including X-Men and Spiderman) is the impeccable casting and writing. They nail this stuff over and over and over again. And that's HARD.


Well, I was speaking in general, but anyway...

And I would add the bolded to my own thoughts.  Still, they're doing genre stuff rather well...it's just that they usually have a superhero to fit in said genre.  The Winter Soldier, if you took the obvious superhero stuff out and made things blow up just a little less, would be a damn effective spy thriller and rival Skyfall in terms of overall punch.  I have to follow with a lot of others, and rank it as the best of the bunch since The Avengers...and that's saying a lot, because I love the Iron Man movies.
 
2014-04-07 02:35:37 PM  
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2014-04-07 02:37:26 PM  
God, DC is going to get its clock cleaned if they go ahead with B vs S as it stands now.
 
2014-04-07 02:37:55 PM  
And yet I'm sure everyone here will go see both movies opening day. And if Star Wars 7 comes out that day too, see that as well. Might as well just call in sick to work that day.
 
2014-04-07 02:38:32 PM  
If they show both movies on the same day...I'd feel sorry for the theater cleaners...it'd just be like mopping up in a:
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2014-04-07 02:38:34 PM  

Fark You I'm Drunk: FirstNationalBastard: Nah, DC will blink.

Warner Brothers. It's not Marvel and DC, it's Disney and Warner Brothers.


Tank you, Captain Obvious.
 
2014-04-07 02:40:39 PM  

texdent: And yet I'm sure everyone here will go see both movies opening day. And if Star Wars 7 comes out that day too, see that as well. Might as well just call in sick to work that day.


I doubt Disney would run their two best movies head to head.
 
2014-04-07 02:41:09 PM  

texdent: And yet I'm sure everyone here will go see both movies opening day. And if Star Wars 7 comes out that day too, see that as well. Might as well just call in sick to work that day.


Well, bothering me on that weekend might not be a winning proposition...

/at this rate, the only thing that'll keep me from a Marvel movie is absolutely horrid reviews - I'm talking 0% overall on RT
//DC...really doesn't have that kind of leeway
///Time will tell if Bats vs. Supes is closer to Nolan/MoS quality or Green Lantern
 
2014-04-07 02:42:27 PM  

Infernalist: God, DC is going to get its clock cleaned if they go ahead with B vs S as it stands now.


I don't know why they can't just go with an all-out Justice League movie if that's the direction they want. You don't HAVE to have backstory films for every character. Hell, do the opposite; JL first, then spin off any characters that audiences connect with.
 
2014-04-07 02:44:23 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Infernalist: God, DC is going to get its clock cleaned if they go ahead with B vs S as it stands now.

I don't know why they can't just go with an all-out Justice League movie if that's the direction they want. You don't HAVE to have backstory films for every character. Hell, do the opposite; JL first, then spin off any characters that audiences connect with.


lol yeah, let's go with that approach.  We can call it "Justice League: Whatever farking Sticks to the Wall."
 
2014-04-07 02:49:08 PM  
Isn't Warcraft coming out around that time as well?  Talk about getting lost in the shuffle.
 
2014-04-07 02:49:40 PM  

Infernalist: Orgasmatron138: Infernalist: God, DC is going to get its clock cleaned if they go ahead with B vs S as it stands now.

I don't know why they can't just go with an all-out Justice League movie if that's the direction they want. You don't HAVE to have backstory films for every character. Hell, do the opposite; JL first, then spin off any characters that audiences connect with.

lol yeah, let's go with that approach.  We can call it "Justice League: Whatever farking Sticks to the Wall."


lol. I would HOPE they'd have a better title. Point stands, though. The average person doesn't really need to be told who Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman are. They have been in pop culture for 50 years.
 
2014-04-07 02:50:09 PM  

elvisaintdead: Captain Steroid: ♫WHENNN Captain America throws his mighty shieeeld,
All those who chose to oppose his shield must yieeeld!
If he's led to a fight and a duel is due,
Then the red and white and the blue'll come through
When Captain America throws his mighty shieeeld!♫ :D

and THERE'S my brainworrrrrrm for the day.
damb you, you everlovin' hulk - Hulk!


Doc Bruce Banner,
Belted by gamma rays,
Turned into the Hulk.
Ain't he unglamor-ous!
Wreckin' the town
With the power of a bull,
Ain't no monster clown
Who is as lovable.
As ever-lovin' Hulk! HULK!! HULK!!
 
2014-04-07 02:54:37 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Fark You I'm Drunk: FirstNationalBastard: Nah, DC will blink.

Warner Brothers. It's not Marvel and DC, it's Disney and Warner Brothers.

Tank you, Captain Obvious.


Actually, guys, its Marvel Studios vs Warner Brothers.

Yes, Disney owns Marvel Studios, and has the power of the purse, but one of the things that Marvel
negotiated very hard for during the acquisition was editorial control over their properties, and they have
excercised this very well by having one man (Kevin Feige, last time I heard) or at least a small coterie of
people guiding their cinematic output.  And that coterie is made up of people from either Marvel
Comics itself, or of professionals who are fans of the form.

By contrast, despite the recent attempt by Warner Brothers to brand all their comicbook movies as
"DC Studios", there is no analogous structure in place:  you have the Batman office, the Superman
office and the "Everybody Else" office.  The Batman & Superman offices have been in existence for
decades, and are made up of bean counters who only care how many lunchboxes "Their Guy"
(whichever guy that is) sells, and will do their best to undercut the sales of "The Other Guy" to maintain
their power inside the Warner Brothers pecking order. the "Everybody Else" office is a relatively recent
phenomena, and has generated mostly drek like THE GREEN LANTERN movie or the failed WONDER
WOMAN pilot.

The Batman office greenlit the Nolan stuff, which was a risk that paid off handsomely, and has the other
gtuys scrambling, but the biggest obstacle to DC getting their act together is that neither the Batman nor the Superman office wants their guy to look bad, and while the Marvel comic universe is similarly
balkanized because they parceled out the rights to the FF, The X-Men, Spiderman, and have had to
craft the current Cinematic universe from the bits that are left, the difference is that DC has to wage a
fight not only against 4 competing Marvel-based universes, they also have to fight against in-house
enemies (not to mention the many levels of Warner Brothers bureaucracy that will want to water anything
down).

If the Marvel movies start to do poorly, though, it remains to be seen how much autonomy Disney will
be willing to cede to Marvel Studios, but for now that doesn't look to be happening any time soon.
 
2014-04-07 02:56:11 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Infernalist: Orgasmatron138: Infernalist: God, DC is going to get its clock cleaned if they go ahead with B vs S as it stands now.

I don't know why they can't just go with an all-out Justice League movie if that's the direction they want. You don't HAVE to have backstory films for every character. Hell, do the opposite; JL first, then spin off any characters that audiences connect with.

lol yeah, let's go with that approach.  We can call it "Justice League: Whatever farking Sticks to the Wall."

lol. I would HOPE they'd have a better title. Point stands, though. The average person doesn't really need to be told who Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman are. They have been in pop culture for 50 years.


Yeah, but a lot of it hasn't been good.  Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel are the sole shining beacons for the last 20 years or so (Arkham games aside).  The last time they tried to kickstart Wonder Woman, the pilot didn't even make it to air.  And before the aforementioned movies, Batman had a set of films that started going off the rails when Schumacher got into the chair, and Superman went from fighting Zod to...Richard Pryor.  And let's not get started on Superman Returns...
 
2014-04-07 02:57:59 PM  

Clutch2013: Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel are the sole shining beacons for the last 20 years or so (Arkham games aside).


You're making me ill by lumping those together.
 
2014-04-07 03:06:18 PM  
Good headline, subs.

There's no great mystery to the secret formula.

Marvel movies are fun.

DC movies are not fun.  A best they are considered "brooding", not something I give a shiat about seeing on screen.

/only read DC as a child, nothing as an adult
/god Dark Knight sucks
 
2014-04-07 03:07:11 PM  

timujin: FTFA: particularly in light of the non-blockbuster performance last by "Man of Steel," which grossed $668 million worldwide.

That sentence boggles my mind.


Not really if one infers that MoS should've done $1 Billion worldwide.  Granted, DC/WB are happy they don't have a bomb..but in the back of their minds they wish they had something to crow about.
 
2014-04-07 03:07:28 PM  

Empty H: Confabulat: I know I'd rather see Batman Vs. Superman. I'm getting a bit burned out on Marvel.

You also like that show that comes on after Marvels Agents of Shield. Knowing this, it puts me deeper on the side of "I would rather watch more Captain America if I had to choose".


The Goldbergs? Yeah I like it. Not obsessed about it or anything. Why would you know this about me? I'm pretty sure I haven't spent much time online raving about the show. That's a bit creepy.
 
2014-04-07 03:08:53 PM  

Clutch2013: DamnYankees: Confabulat: I know I'd rather see Batman Vs. Superman. I'm getting a bit burned out on Marvel.

I'd agree, except for the fact that other than the Nolan movies, the DC movies are all piles of shiat.

Also, Marvel seems to be aware of this, and they're expanding out. Stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy and Dr. Strange are going to be pretty different from what we've seen so far, I think.

Without kickstarting that pissing match again...Man of Steel is pretty good, and fairly awesome.  Otherwise, agreed on all counts.

Marvel's strength lies in its' diversity of material, it's willingness to try where others (read: DC) wouldn't, and the fact that everybody seems to want to give it their all.  The Winter Soldier, just like pretty much all of the MCU movies, worked because it was a genre movie with superheroes, not the other way around.  DC doesn't get this, and they're going to go for the full superhero spectacle, and unless someone over there pulls their head just far enough out of their ass to notice the difference in smell, Batman vs. Superman doesn't stand a chance.


Better yet:  Watch "The Dark Knight" over and over until they get it.
 
2014-04-07 03:09:58 PM  

Rwa2play: Better yet:  Watch "The Dark Knight" over and over until they get it.


The Dark Knight is not a replicable model. The only real lesson from The Dark Knight is "hire amazing actors and an amazing director". That's not very useful advice.
 
2014-04-07 03:13:57 PM  

Far Cough: Good headline, subs.

There's no great mystery to the secret formula.

Marvel movies are fun.

DC movies are not fun.  A best they are considered "brooding", not something I give a shiat about seeing on screen.

/only read DC as a child, nothing as an adult
/god Dark Knight sucks


I'll flip that. DC movies are memorable, deeper, more rewatchable. Iron Man might be the exception. Avengers was a great popcorn movie, but not a "best of all time" kind of film.

Man of Steel was brilliant (regardless of what the butthurt comic fans think), and the Dark Knight Trilogy was better than anything Marvel has yet to offer.
 
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