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(Five Thirty-Eight)   Eich holds a minority opinion for Silicon Valley. In other news, OkCupid's servers are bigoted   (fivethirtyeight.com ) divider line 18
    More: Interesting, Brendan Eich, Silicon Valley, same-sex marriage in California, minorities, campaign finance laws, Santa Clara County, Mozilla, donations  
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692 clicks; posted to Politics » on 07 Apr 2014 at 9:43 AM (1 year ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-04-07 09:53:51 AM  
Owning a few shares of stock in a company and being the CEO of a company is the exact same thing.
 
mhd
2014-04-07 10:09:27 AM  
Most surprising company:
i.imgur.com
60/40 for Prop 8

/2nd most surprising was Oracle
 
2014-04-07 10:18:20 AM  

mhd: Most surprising company:
[i.imgur.com image 182x203]
60/40 for Prop 8

/2nd most surprising was Oracle


It is a common tactic by Republicans in At Will employment states to threaten to let go workers who don't vote correctly.

/vote prop 8 if you like your job.
 
2014-04-07 10:37:47 AM  

fluffy2097: mhd: Most surprising company:
[i.imgur.com image 182x203]
60/40 for Prop 8

/2nd most surprising was Oracle

It is a common tactic by Republicans in At Will employment states to threaten to let go workers who don't vote correctly.

/vote prop 8 if you like your job.


"A common tactic," that can fail spectacularly almost by definition because we have secret ballots in this country. So I find it hard to believe that it is a "common tactic" insofar as any appreciable amount of people have been fired using the tactic.
 
2014-04-07 10:40:40 AM  

fluffy2097: mhd: Most surprising company:
[i.imgur.com image 182x203]
60/40 for Prop 8

/2nd most surprising was Oracle

It is a common tactic by Republicans in At Will employment states to threaten to let go workers who don't vote correctly.

/vote prop 8 if you like your job.


This is about donations not votes.
 
2014-04-07 10:44:07 AM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: "A common tactic," that can fail spectacularly almost by definition because we have secret ballots in this country. So I find it hard to believe that it is a "common tactic" insofar as any appreciable amount of people have been fired using the tactic.


Thats why you don't say it. You just listen to what people say in the office, read their e-mail (company account so no expectation of privacy), then 'downsize' offenders at the next round of layoffs.

/you just can't SAY you're firing them because you're a bigot.
 
2014-04-07 11:01:27 AM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: "A common tactic," that can fail spectacularly almost by definition because we have secret ballots in this country. So I find it hard to believe that it is a "common tactic" insofar as any appreciable amount of people have been fired using the tactic.


I think you're (1) presuming a higher level of civic sophistication than what is represented by the average American, and (2) underestimating the means at an employer's disposal to determine the political activities of his employees.
 
2014-04-07 11:11:08 AM  

fluffy2097: Thats why you don't say it. You just listen to what people say in the office, read their e-mail (company account so no expectation of privacy), then 'downsize' offenders at the next round of layoffs.

/you just can't SAY you're firing them because you're a bigot.


Most don't even do that, besides a few trolls who claimed they would go through their parking lot and fire anyone with an Obama bumper sticker.

It's usually a more broad "If INSERTLIBERALHERE wins I'm firing half my staff" type of rants.
 
2014-04-07 11:12:54 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Most don't even do that, besides a few trolls who claimed they would go through their parking lot and fire anyone with an Obama bumper sticker.


I love when that pops up on Facebook. It's so nice to now be in an employment position to call them out on their bullshiat as either not owning any business at all, or being complete idiots at running them.
 
2014-04-07 11:31:03 AM  
This particular click-mine seems to be going dry. Hope the mods see that, and stop working it.
 
2014-04-07 11:32:47 AM  

ib_thinkin: Satanic_Hamster: Most don't even do that, besides a few trolls who claimed they would go through their parking lot and fire anyone with an Obama bumper sticker.

I love when that pops up on Facebook. It's so nice to now be in an employment position to call them out on their bullshiat as either not owning any business at all, or being complete idiots at running them.


Yeah, as strongly as some people can feel on politics, I really can't imagine firing people solely based on their bumper stickers (assuming they don't let their political opinions interfere with work).

Now, I would, however, support firing ANYONE with a political bumper sticker, regardless of whom they support.  I find political bumper stickers to be stupid and retarded, at best.
 
2014-04-07 12:23:40 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: fluffy2097: mhd: Most surprising company:
[i.imgur.com image 182x203]
60/40 for Prop 8

/2nd most surprising was Oracle

It is a common tactic by Republicans in At Will employment states to threaten to let go workers who don't vote correctly.

/vote prop 8 if you like your job.

"A common tactic," that can fail spectacularly almost by definition because we have secret ballots in this country. So I find it hard to believe that it is a "common tactic" insofar as any appreciable amount of people have been fired using the tactic.


And it is the Democrats who wish to remove secret ballots for union votes. I wonder why?
 
2014-04-07 04:01:20 PM  
Eich may hold a minority opinion for Silicon Valley, but he swings a majority opinion on the Council of Boskone.
 
2014-04-07 04:22:08 PM  

LarryDan43: Owning a few shares of stock in a company and being the CEO of a company is the exact same thing.


You have the right idea (peons are different than bigwigs), but shareholders are not listed on these forms.  Employees are; IE, you have to put down who your employer is when you donate.
 
2014-04-07 04:43:28 PM  

mhd: Most surprising company:
[i.imgur.com image 182x203]
60/40 for Prop 8

/2nd most surprising was Oracle


I feel like I need to speak up because 538 has phrased things a little glibly, in my opinion.

Intel has 82,500 employees.

61 of them gave monetary support to Prop 8.
40 of them gave monetary support to voting no on Prop 8.

That is worlds apart from saying Intel has a "60/40" split on the position of allow gay people to marry.  I know you aren't exactly stating that, but it is really easy for people to start to assume that.

0.073%, not even a thousandth of the Intel workforce gave monetary support to Prop 8.
 
2014-04-07 04:50:00 PM  
And as an addendum:  This whole table really sucks without a sense for the size of the company.  Each company will have a different number of employees who care about CA propositions.

And even then, I feel like the forces that gather together and initiate a new proposition have very different impetuous and fund raising tactics than the people who are just for keeping the status quo.  People enfranchised in trying to deny gay people the right to marry seem more politically ready to donate rather than your average Californian who was just okay with things staying the same.

Using this list as some sort of indictment of the companies seems illogical to me.  I could imagine a small company where everyone was fine with gay marriage, but the one bigot decided to donate a thousand dollars.  That company would have a "100/0" split according to this chart.
 
2014-04-08 12:30:20 AM  

Esc7: mhd: Most surprising company:
[i.imgur.com image 182x203]
60/40 for Prop 8

/2nd most surprising was Oracle

I feel like I need to speak up because 538 has phrased things a little glibly, in my opinion.

Intel has 82,500 employees.

61 of them gave monetary support to Prop 8.
40 of them gave monetary support to voting no on Prop 8.

That is worlds apart from saying Intel has a "60/40" split on the position of allow gay people to marry.  I know you aren't exactly stating that, but it is really easy for people to start to assume that.

0.073%, not even a thousandth of the Intel workforce gave monetary support to Prop 8.


Esc7: And as an addendum:  This whole table really sucks without a sense for the size of the company.  Each company will have a different number of employees who care about CA propositions.

And even then, I feel like the forces that gather together and initiate a new proposition have very different impetuous and fund raising tactics than the people who are just for keeping the status quo.  People enfranchised in trying to deny gay people the right to marry seem more politically ready to donate rather than your average Californian who was just okay with things staying the same.

Using this list as some sort of indictment of the companies seems illogical to me.  I could imagine a small company where everyone was fine with gay marriage, but the one bigot decided to donate a thousand dollars.  That company would have a "100/0" split according to this chart.


I think we're about wrapped up, here.
 
2014-04-08 03:47:25 AM  
fark this god damn story. can we go back to korean planes or zimmerman
 
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