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(BBC)   Half-marathon organisers cancel race due to lack of water stations, learn that you can't actually do much to stop 4,000 people running on public roads   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 24
    More: Fail, Sheffield Half Marathon, public roads, water stations, South Yorkshire Police, water shortages  
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2014-04-07 09:05:55 AM
They're going to get that goddamn oval decal no matter what!
 
2014-04-07 09:10:23 AM

UberDave: They're going to get that goddamn oval decal no matter what!


Don't forget the 13.1 sticker
 
2014-04-07 10:12:44 AM
Judging by the pictures, looks like plenty of bowsers were supplied...
 
2014-04-07 10:32:49 AM

UberDave: They're going to get that goddamn oval decal no matter what!



I mean good for them and all, but something about that oval sticker just bugs me. Maybe because it reminds me that I'm horribly out of shape.

Who am I kidding, even if I were in shape, I'd still never run a marathon.
 
2014-04-07 10:36:30 AM
Must be hard to find water these days.
 
2014-04-07 10:37:03 AM
Don't the have any running water over there?  You don't have to buy water in a store normally.   Turn on a freaking hose fill up a bucket.
 
2014-04-07 10:38:52 AM
Oh, it's it's just a 1/2.  I can run what with out a water stop on a hot day.  It doesn't even look hot.
 
2014-04-07 10:42:00 AM
Emil Zátopek can be heard laughing at these pansies and their water stations from his grave.
 
2014-04-07 10:42:10 AM

dognose4: Oh, it's it's just a 1/2.  I can run what with out a water stop on a hot day.  It doesn't even look hot.


Second that.  A half marathon on what looks to be a cloudy and perhaps rainy day doesn't really need water stops.   However, I think the directors cancelled for legal reasons.  If somebody keels over and dies the first people to be blamed would be the race directors for not supplying water.

Had to be done.
 
2014-04-07 10:53:23 AM
Mismanagement of small events is very common. They often don't have the route properly marked. Turn around points won't be staffed or marked properly. Timing gets completely screwed up. They forget to get road closure permits. Et cetera.
 
2014-04-07 11:04:41 AM
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ya got damned right.

ONON
 
2014-04-07 11:13:58 AM
Half marathon is like half pregnant
 
2014-04-07 11:28:02 AM
I do love the arrogance of some of the runners quoted.  Perhaps management could have had another vendor on standby but it simply might not have been in the budget since I imagine any vendor capable of supplying in the quantities needed probably would require a deposit at the least if not more.

If I order 500 yards of concrete and the concrete company doesn't show up; it's not my fault*; and I'm sure as shiat not going to make an order with another company at the same time on the off chance that the first flakes out.

Unless this was some kind of fundraiser / charity run; it's assenine that people basically gave the event organizers the bird and proceeded anyway after being told it was cancelled.  So sorry you crammed your cottage cheese into all that spandex for nothing; maybe you can  shiat your pants and make your nipples bleed next time.  Makes me wonder if since the organizers cancelled the run, if the permits required to close the roads became void thus making the participants a mob; as opposed to a marathon.

* Unless I failed to do any sort of follow up with said company; or I failed to give them a location; or my check bounced.

I'm curious though about the logistics of the scoring of a marathon.  I mean typically when you see a marathon there are an assload of people there; who determines if you start at the front or the rear?  And how do you accurately time anybody other than the front of the pack?  Anyone who has run in a pack of any size knows that there's a massive rubber-band effect and it has to be several minutes at some of the larger marathons before the "last" person to start even crosses the starting line.

/ Doesn't have a problem with runners in general; just the self-entitled ones that ruin it for everyone else
// True of any activity
/// Except golfers; I hate all of you regardless.
 
2014-04-07 11:36:43 AM

Shan: I do love the arrogance of some of the runners quoted.  Perhaps management could have had another vendor on standby but it simply might not have been in the budget since I imagine any vendor capable of supplying in the quantities needed probably would require a deposit at the least if not more.

If I order 500 yards of concrete and the concrete company doesn't show up; it's not my fault*; and I'm sure as shiat not going to make an order with another company at the same time on the off chance that the first flakes out.

Unless this was some kind of fundraiser / charity run; it's assenine that people basically gave the event organizers the bird and proceeded anyway after being told it was cancelled.  So sorry you crammed your cottage cheese into all that spandex for nothing; maybe you can  shiat your pants and make your nipples bleed next time.  Makes me wonder if since the organizers cancelled the run, if the permits required to close the roads became void thus making the participants a mob; as opposed to a marathon.

* Unless I failed to do any sort of follow up with said company; or I failed to give them a location; or my check bounced.

I'm curious though about the logistics of the scoring of a marathon.  I mean typically when you see a marathon there are an assload of people there; who determines if you start at the front or the rear?  And how do you accurately time anybody other than the front of the pack?  Anyone who has run in a pack of any size knows that there's a massive rubber-band effect and it has to be several minutes at some of the larger marathons before the "last" person to start even crosses the starting line.

/ Doesn't have a problem with runners in general; just the self-entitled ones that ruin it for everyone else
// True of any activity
/// Except golfers; I hate all of you regardless.


The timer chip that each runner wears will "activate" upon crossing the actual start line, so it's possible. But let's not forget during the race you're still using up half your energy avoiding and jumping around slow people.
 
2014-04-07 11:47:12 AM

Shan: I'm curious though about the logistics of the scoring of a marathon. I mean typically when you see a marathon there are an assload of people there; who determines if you start at the front or the rear? And how do you accurately time anybody other than the front of the pack? Anyone who has run in a pack of any size knows that there's a massive rubber-band effect and it has to be several minutes at some of the larger marathons before the "last" person to start even crosses the starting line


let me help you out:

As to starting positions, there is an "elite" section at the front, consisting of the skinny kenyan wankers who are there to WIN the thing.  The idea is that they shouldn't have to lose time weaving through the plodding plebes (such as myself), and endanger everyone else.

You sort of place yourself in the pack based on how fast you think you're going to run it.  Large runs will have pace groups where a group leader will run at a given rate and bring you over the line at a specified time.  For example, I usually run a 2:00 hour half marathon, so I would line up with the 2:00 group.  They aren't slowing down for shiat, so if you can't keep up, you just fall back.   A fellow farker friend of mine would line up with the 1:45 group because he's a big fat doodyhead (hey there A.T.).  Fast guys up front, slow guys at the back.

Timing is done via RFID chips, typically embedded in your number.  It starts you time when you cross the line, and stops when you cross the finish line.  Simple as that.  There are gates throughout the course that record split times.  Some runs also use your number to take pictures based on when your bib number shows up.  A lot of times they will then sell you the pictures at exorbitant rates.
 
2014-04-07 11:53:42 AM

danielem1: The timer chip that each runner wears will "activate" upon crossing the actual start line, so it's possible. But let's not forget during the race you're still using up half your energy avoiding and jumping around slow people.


that's why you want to select the right pace group.  It tends to put you in a "slug" of people moving at your pace.  But it's like buying pants: vanity pace grouping doesn't help ya.  If you don't think you're going to turn in a 1:55, go with a slower pace group.

The dodging, bobbing and weaving are worst at the very start.  It usually segregates itself out in 4 - 5 miles.
 
2014-04-07 11:53:56 AM

danielem1: The timer chip that each runner wears will "activate" upon crossing the actual start line, so it's possible. But let's not forget during the race you're still using up half your energy avoiding and jumping around slow people.


I honestly didn't know that they used such a thing; my only experience with timed runs of a large group were PT tests in the Army; and policy there was the clock didn't actually start until the tail crossed the starting line; though typically there was only a hundred or so of us on the line so it didn't effect your score by terribly much.  Usually they would have the slow runners and those looking to score good for promotion would be at the front to give them a little extra while the faster runners would take the rear.

The only thing resembling a "marathon" I've run was a ~8 mile "Aloha" run while I was  in theater* which ultimately lead to my early discharge.  Running 8 miles on sand; gravel; and poorly maintained roads; lead to a broken foot early on that the medics insisted was only a sprain**.  It subsequently healed wrong and I still walk a little funny to this day.  Still managed to complete the run in ~70 minutes; but I was never a fast runner to begin with.

* It's run annually in HI, my unit decided that even though we were deployed we would still participate.
** Partially my fault; I should have told them to stuff it and gone to the actual field hospital to have it looked at but I was a good little soldier and trusted them.
 
2014-04-07 11:57:18 AM

Shan: ead to a broken foot early on that the medics insisted was only a sprain**.


Let me guess: they gave you Motrin for it?

/Stationed with the 25th back in the day.
//essayons!
 
2014-04-07 12:13:04 PM

fireclown: Shan: ead to a broken foot early on that the medics insisted was only a sprain**.

Let me guess: they gave you Motrin for it?

/Stationed with the 25th back in the day.
//essayons!


TMC baby; Tylenol, Motrin and Crutches; although they actually didn't even bother with the crutches; just a light duty profile for 2 weeks.  It wasn't until my discharge medical eval that I finally got "proof" it had broken; but at that point my discharge was already approved and was happy to get away from my unit; so I wasn't going to delay my discharge by a year fighting to get it converted to a medical.  I'm sure it's just a "grass is always greener" thing but I swear I had the most inept unit of assholes ever to exist.  If I hadn't been keeping copies of my discharge packet and submitting them to every place needed myself I'd probably still be waiting.  It got to be bad enough I was practically on a first name basis with all the officers in my BN just because I'd keep going to them for new signatures when someone would lose my packet.
 
2014-04-07 12:49:27 PM

fireclown: You sort of place yourself in the pack based on how fast you think you're going to run it.


And you still end up passing/being passed because some people start fast and others finish fast and all the other combos in between.

I was in the back of the pack for the Paris semi. Took a long time to get to the start with 23,000 runners. Most guys crossed the start line and then headed to the sidelines to pee.
 
2014-04-07 01:22:59 PM

dognose4: Don't the have any running water over there?  You don't have to buy water in a store normally.   Turn on a freaking hose fill up a bucket.


You beat me to it.
Looks like a neighborhood where an organizer could have asked someone "Can I use your water for twenty bucks?".

And look at all the cups on the street. I hope organizers are going to be pickin' that shiat up.
 
2014-04-07 02:26:20 PM
They're easy enough to stop, if you dig a deep enough pit.
 
2014-04-07 02:58:07 PM
When the New York City Marathon was cancelled, several thousand people showed up in Central Park and to "Run Anyways". It was awesome. Many people turned up to give out water and cookies and stuff.
 
2014-04-07 03:19:40 PM
In a nation with running water, they couldn't find any water? Really? Pull the other one!
 
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