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(Asahi Shimbun)   Botanists, boffins baffled by space cherry tree grown from pit brought to ISS by Japanese astronaut. "Current science can offer no answer for the unusually fast growth of the space cherries"   (ajw.asahi.com) divider line 82
    More: Weird, International Space Station, Japanese, cherries, cherry tree grown, astronauts, fast growth, space systems, Koichi Wakata  
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2014-04-07 08:56:38 AM  
www.empireonline.com

They had some help.
 
2014-04-07 10:09:29 AM  
No gravity?
 
2014-04-07 10:13:15 AM  
Must be God. Check and mate, science.
 
2014-04-07 10:16:10 AM  
If you're not on English soil when you use the word "boffin", that's a taserin'.

/For the love of God, Montressor, give it a rest.
 
2014-04-07 10:17:11 AM  
Must be Godzilla.
 
2014-04-07 10:20:50 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [www.empireonline.com image 500x400]

They had some help.


One of my all time favorite movies :D

As for TFA, its the space-time continu... thing..... or something....
 
2014-04-07 10:21:42 AM  
"The original Chujohimeseigan-zakura tree is a variant of the "yamazakura" wild cherry species, and until now, attempts to grow young trees from its fruit have been unsuccessful."

So poorly understood tree does something unexpected and we're supposed to blame space-rays rather than just noting that we aren't very good at growing them in the first place?
 
2014-04-07 10:22:08 AM  

Grumpy Cat: Must be Godzilla.


Seems unlikely. Radiation exposure wouldn't be expected to provide the same mutation in all 265 pits. It's more random than that.

I suspect the original 1200 year-old tree may have been a fast-flowering mutation whose trait was lost to history because no one recorded that it flowered 8 years early 1200 years ago.

Also a chance that it was hybrid pollenized by something near the parent tree. Lord knows there are all kinds of weird cherry hybrids out there.
 
2014-04-07 10:22:27 AM  
Came for Silent Running. Awed to see it referenced in the very boobies.
 
Skr
2014-04-07 10:25:26 AM  
Is the pressure on the station kept different than on Earth? Gravity would be my second guess, with the differing quality of sunlight being the third. I'm guessing the sunlight is different up there than the stuff that gets filtered through Earth's atmosphere. Though that wouldn't explain anything about the seeds that made the return trip.
 
2014-04-07 10:25:57 AM  
How many Boffins died to bring us this information?
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2014-04-07 10:26:46 AM  

orclover: How many Boffins died to bring us this information?
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*shakes tiny fist*

You win the thread.
 
2014-04-07 10:32:37 AM  
There's a joke here somewhere about popping space cherries, but I can't seem to find it.
 
2014-04-07 10:32:38 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [www.empireonline.com image 500x400]

They had some help.


Greatest underrated sci-fi movie ever.
 
2014-04-07 10:35:46 AM  
Obviously the botanists are part of the Oil Company conspiracy to deny climate change has altered the growing season.
 
2014-04-07 10:35:58 AM  
Clearly, aliens identified the most intelligent life on the ISS and infused it with space-powers.
 
2014-04-07 10:37:40 AM  
Perhaps it has something to do with limited gravity and 24/7 light .
 
2014-04-07 10:38:14 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: "The original Chujohimeseigan-zakura tree is a variant of the "yamazakura" wild cherry species, and until now, attempts to grow young trees from its fruit have been unsuccessful."

So poorly understood tree does something unexpected and we're supposed to blame space-rays rather than just noting that we aren't very good at growing them in the first place?


That and these seeds have been attended to way more than normal.
 
2014-04-07 10:55:29 AM  
Isn't this the start of a lot of horror movies?

A plant grows unusually fast in Space...they take it to some lab somewhere to study it.   Looking through a microscope they see accelerated cellular growth.    Then one morning, the hot chick lab tech comes to work and finds the plant has broken out of its glass case; and killed the fat expendable geeky tech and she runs screaming from the lab with vines clawing at her ample breasts....
 
2014-04-07 10:55:45 AM  

dv-ous: No gravity?


That and greater exposure to sources of energy other than good old fashioned sun light.

/the atmosphere does absorb a lot of energy
 
2014-04-07 10:57:33 AM  

VladTheEmailer: Then one morning, the hot chick lab tech comes to work and finds the plant has broken out of its glass case; and killed the fat expendable geeky tech and she runs screaming from the lab with vines clawing at her ample breasts....


...and I'm spent.
 
2014-04-07 10:59:36 AM  
static.guim.co.uk
 
2014-04-07 11:00:19 AM  
img.fark.net
Not a space cherry, but a scifi cherry.  Close 'nuff.
 
2014-04-07 11:01:00 AM  
Now let's find out what happens when a  child is conceived in space. Dun dun dun dunnnnn!
 
2014-04-07 11:03:11 AM  

theorellior: VladTheEmailer: Then one morning, the hot chick lab tech comes to work and finds the plant has broken out of its glass case; and killed the fat expendable geeky tech and she runs screaming from the lab with vines clawing at her ample breasts....

...and I'm spent.


You're welcome.
 
2014-04-07 11:06:07 AM  
The term, "Space Cherry," gives me a semi.
 
2014-04-07 11:06:45 AM  

mutterfark: Now let's find out what happens when a  child is conceived in space. Dun dun dun dunnnnn!


There is a weirdly persistent rumor that there is a Russian space baby alive on earth today.  That there was a deliberate space hookup arranged solely for this purpose.
 
2014-04-07 11:14:02 AM  

orclover: How many Boffins died to bring us this information?
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Threadjack, but... How the hell is it anyone would trust a Bothan with any information? Bothans are known for being spies. Bothans are known for infiltration and gathering of information for your enemy.

Bothans are sentient space dogs.

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2014-04-07 11:14:46 AM  
tvmedia.ign.com
What a couple of space cherries might look like...
 
2014-04-07 11:17:04 AM  

VladTheEmailer: Isn't this the start of a lot of horror movies?

A plant grows unusually fast in Space...they take it to some lab somewhere to study it.   Looking through a microscope they see accelerated cellular growth.    Then one morning, the hot chick lab tech comes to work and finds the plant has broken out of its glass case; and killed the fat expendable geeky tech and she runs screaming from the lab with vines clawing at her ample breasts....


Feed me, Seymour!
 
2014-04-07 11:21:07 AM  

stonicus: [tvmedia.ign.com image 468x312]
What a couple of space cherries might look like...


Man, I love a chick with a keytar.
 
2014-04-07 11:29:41 AM  

tgambitg: orclover: How many Boffins died to bring us this information?
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Threadjack, but... How the hell is it anyone would trust a Bothan with any information? Bothans are known for being spies. Bothans are known for infiltration and gathering of information for your enemy.

Bothans are sentient space dogs.

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How many Bothans died to bring us this information?
 
Biv
2014-04-07 11:30:00 AM  

VladTheEmailer: Isn't this the start of a lot of horror movies?

A plant grows unusually fast in Space...they take it to some lab somewhere to study it.   Looking through a microscope they see accelerated cellular growth.    Then one morning, the hot chick lab tech comes to work and finds the plant has broken out of its glass case; and killed the fat expendable geeky tech and she runs screaming from the lab with vines clawing at her ample breasts....


She then gets infected by the spores and becomes a sex zombie.

/I saw this flick.
 
2014-04-07 11:31:43 AM  

VladTheEmailer: Isn't this the start of a lot of horror movies?

A plant grows unusually fast in Space...they take it to some lab somewhere to study it.   Looking through a microscope they see accelerated cellular growth.    Then one morning, the hot chick lab tech comes to work and finds the plant has broken out of its glass case; and killed the fat expendable geeky tech and she runs screaming from the lab with vines clawing at her ample breasts....


The kinds of horror movies you find on e.g. Syfy rely on a lot of plot devices that are scientifically impossible.  Plants can move through cellular growth or through mechanical tension (e.g. the "spring-loaded" mechanism on a Venus flytrap, which has a long reset time), but for vines to move fast enough to actually chase a human would require muscles, which evolved long after the plant and animal lineages split off from each other.

/am I the only one here who isn't turned on by a hot chick screaming in terror?
 
2014-04-07 11:32:13 AM  
Don't feed the plants!

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2014-04-07 11:33:17 AM  
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2014-04-07 11:33:39 AM  

Skr: Is the pressure on the station kept different than on Earth? Gravity would be my second guess, with the differing quality of sunlight being the third. I'm guessing the sunlight is different up there than the stuff that gets filtered through Earth's atmosphere. Though that wouldn't explain anything about the seeds that made the return trip.


"...the astronauts and cosmonauts on the International Space Station witness around 15 sunrises and 15 sunsets every day."
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/02/astronauts-on-the-in te rnational-space-station-see-numerous-sunrises-sunsets-everyday/

Not that the sunrises/sunsets matter much with most light being the artificial light. We also don't know if the seeds were in opaque packaging. Magnetic fields would be different, but they're also different for seeds in a farm building near some iron. Unusual G-forces were also experienced during the flight and descent, but a centrifuge could duplicate those if someone wants to experiment.
 
2014-04-07 11:34:04 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: dv-ous: No gravity?

That and greater exposure to sources of energy other than good old fashioned sun light.

/the atmosphere does absorb a lot of energy


Amazing how these people are scientists, and yet they can't figure this out. Biology 101.
 
2014-04-07 11:36:12 AM  
Thanks for the reminder, I'm going to pull down Silent Running as soon as I get home today.
 
2014-04-07 11:42:59 AM  

anfrind: /am I the only one here who isn't turned on by a hot chick screaming in terror?


It depends whether I'm naked and if that's the cause of them screaming in terror....
 
2014-04-07 11:51:05 AM  
static.comicvine.com

The answer is really quite obvious, if you have a doctorate in molecular biology and astrophysics.
 
2014-04-07 11:54:24 AM  

jayhawk88: [static.comicvine.com image 350x350]

The answer is really quite obvious, if you have a doctorate in molecular biology and astrophysics.


Funny how everyone was a doctor of something back then.  Although, astrophysics was a much smaller field.
 
2014-04-07 11:56:00 AM  

People_are_Idiots: TheShavingofOccam123: dv-ous: No gravity?

That and greater exposure to sources of energy other than good old fashioned sun light.

/the atmosphere does absorb a lot of energy

Amazing how these people are scientists, and yet they can't figure this out. Biology 101.


The trees are not being grown in space, the seeds were previously in space.

There's a bit of a difference.
 
2014-04-07 12:07:43 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: So poorly understood tree does something unexpected and we're supposed to blame space-rays rather than just noting that we aren't very good at growing them in the first place?


Given the result, I'm more wondering what enabled him to sprout one of them more than any speed at which it does something.

tgambitg: Threadjack, but... How the hell is it anyone would trust a Bothan with any information? Bothans are known for being spies. Bothans are known for infiltration and gathering of information for your enemy.


I know the books have probably turned them into spies and such, but I figure it's more that Bothans were known to be loyal and such.  That they signed up to the rebels secretly and acted as spies came as a complete and utter shock to the Imperials.  It probably wasn't even ALL bothans, just a select group.

Then the Empire killed off all/almost all Bothans in their service for the betrayal, with 99.99% of them being completely loyal and unaware of the plot to steal DS plans(and whatever else they stole).

Failing that, they'd have to be more 'sneaky' type spies than 'infiltrate' type.
 
2014-04-07 12:13:17 PM  

Skr: Is the pressure on the station kept different than on Earth? Gravity would be my second guess, with the differing quality of sunlight being the third. I'm guessing the sunlight is different up there than the stuff that gets filtered through Earth's atmosphere. Though that wouldn't explain anything about the seeds that made the return trip.


Headline sucks... The tree is apparently back on Earth now.
 
2014-04-07 12:13:28 PM  

People_are_Idiots: TheShavingofOccam123: dv-ous: No gravity?

That and greater exposure to sources of energy other than good old fashioned sun light.

/the atmosphere does absorb a lot of energy

Amazing how these people are scientists, and yet they can't figure this out. Biology 101.


Perhaps because they're not growing in space?

/reading comprehension ftw
 
2014-04-07 12:16:06 PM  
The radiation exposer may have made a difference.

Some experiments with radiation and gardening were done in the 40's or 50's. I think most assumed the accelerated growth was due to the rise in soil temperature.
 
2014-04-07 12:43:07 PM  
A-ta-ku of the Giant Space Cherry Blossoms (1993, JAPAN) VHS, DVD, BR

Cherry trees sent into space by JASPER (Japanese Aero-Space Programme and Earth Recon) grow to giant size when brought back to Earth and planted throughout Tokyo as patriotic propaganda. The giant trees become sentient and begin to destroy Tokyo.  Thousands are killed in days because they refuse to stop admiring the cherry blossoms and taking photos. This movie did very well in Japan but flopped miserably in syndication as American audiences could not take cherry blossoms seriously as an existential threat. Climate change denialists attacked the film as Commie propaganda. Botonists complained that it gave vegetation a bad rap."Luthur Burbanks would be appalled.", said Peter Sellers in another context altogether. The only thing that saved the movie was being Riffed by MST3K, Cinema Titantic, and RiffTrax.

Another little piece of the wonderful worlds that exist only in the mind of Brantgoose
 
2014-04-07 12:47:17 PM  
It turns out that special things are treated special. Film at 11
 
2014-04-07 12:50:20 PM  

brantgoose: A-ta-ku of the Giant Space Cherry Blossoms (1993, JAPAN) VHS, DVD, BR

Cherry trees sent into space by JASPER (Japanese Aero-Space Programme and Earth Recon) grow to giant size when brought back to Earth and planted throughout Tokyo as patriotic propaganda. The giant trees become sentient and begin to destroy Tokyo.  Thousands are killed in days because they refuse to stop admiring the cherry blossoms and taking photos. This movie did very well in Japan but flopped miserably in syndication as American audiences could not take cherry blossoms seriously as an existential threat. Climate change denialists attacked the film as Commie propaganda. Botonists complained that it gave vegetation a bad rap."Luthur Burbanks would be appalled.", said Peter Sellers in another context altogether. The only thing that saved the movie was being Riffed by MST3K, Cinema Titantic, and RiffTrax.

Another little piece of the wonderful worlds that exist only in the mind of Brantgoose


1993 was, IIRC, the last year that TOHO produced a golden-era Godzilla film. That makes me wonder if you're a Kaiju fan,  brantgoose.
 
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