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(KSL Salt Lake City)   Mother whose daughter was killed during the Rwanda genocide has forgiven the man that killed her, so much so that they are now friends and live near each other and shop at the same market. I smell a new buddy comedy in the works   (ksl.com) divider line 38
    More: Interesting, Rwanda, ethnic violence, genocide, Hutu, Tutsi  
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2014-04-07 12:21:05 AM
I just watched a portion of "Taxi" with Latifah and Fallon so I'm getting a kick.
 
2014-04-07 01:58:28 AM
"He killed her daughter. She forgave him. What's going to happen next? You won't know until you tune in to "Merdurama", Wednesdays on FOX!
 
2014-04-07 02:00:14 AM
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2014-04-07 02:07:40 AM
On Monday, Rwanda marks the 20th anniversary of the beginning of 100 days of bloody mayhem. But the genocide was really in the making for decades, fueled by hate speech, discrimination, propaganda and the training of death squads. Hutus had come to resent Tutsis for their greater wealth and what they saw as oppressive rule.
Rwanda is the most densely populated country in mainland Africa, slightly smaller than the U.S. state of Maryland but with a population of more than 12 million. The countryside is lush green, filled with uncountable numbers of banana trees.
The Hutu-Tutsi divide may be the country's most notorious characteristic but also its most confounding. The two groups are so closely related that it's nearly impossible for an outsider to tell which the average Rwandan belongs to. Even Rwandans have trouble knowing who is who, especially after two decades of a government push to create a single Rwandan identity.


And the winner of this years most out of place sentence is...
 
2014-04-07 02:10:36 AM
Is one of them really neat and fastidious, and the other really sloppy and messy?
 
2014-04-07 02:14:06 AM
Sure, the same way a woman in Egypt or Morocco will marry her rapist. Water under the bridge i say. The woman hanging herself later is purely coincidental.
 
2014-04-07 02:15:47 AM
"Given how we were told that the Tutsis were evil, after the first family I just felt like I was killing our enemies."

Mindless idiocy.

The worst idea human beings ever thought of is the need for authority figures.
 
2014-04-07 02:17:06 AM

log_jammin: On Monday, Rwanda marks the 20th anniversary of the beginning of 100 days of bloody mayhem. But the genocide was really in the making for decades, fueled by hate speech, discrimination, propaganda and the training of death squads. Hutus had come to resent Tutsis for their greater wealth and what they saw as oppressive rule.
Rwanda is the most densely populated country in mainland Africa, slightly smaller than the U.S. state of Maryland but with a population of more than 12 million. The countryside is lush green, filled with uncountable numbers of banana trees.
The Hutu-Tutsi divide may be the country's most notorious characteristic but also its most confounding. The two groups are so closely related that it's nearly impossible for an outsider to tell which the average Rwandan belongs to. Even Rwandans have trouble knowing who is who, especially after two decades of a government push to create a single Rwandan identity.

And the winner of this years most out of place sentence is...


never forget about the uncountable banana trees!
 
2014-04-07 02:18:48 AM
You have to hand it to her.
 
2014-04-07 02:20:20 AM
People that are attracted to authoritative positions (management, government, etc) are usually those that are:

A. sociopaths that thrive on power and control over others

or

B. followers that have always played by the rules and never question authority figures
 
2014-04-07 02:22:12 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: People that are attracted to authoritative positions (management, government, etc) are usually those that are:

A. sociopaths that thrive on power and control over others

or

B. followers that have always played by the rules and never question authority figures


ok?
 
2014-04-07 02:25:41 AM
"The same people that encouraged the genocide are the ones saying there was no genocide."
 
2014-04-07 02:27:50 AM
log_jammin:

ok?

The Aristocrats!
 
2014-04-07 02:32:50 AM
I guess I would have to say forgiveness is only viable when you know your enemy's heart. I'm not sure people can decide to forgive on their own. I'm not sure they should. If their enemy is guilt-ridden and asks for forgiveness, it seems like that's the important piece.
 
2014-04-07 02:33:31 AM
Horror has a face, and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies.
 
2014-04-07 02:34:09 AM

some_beer_drinker: log_jammin: On Monday, Rwanda marks the 20th anniversary of the beginning of 100 days of bloody mayhem. But the genocide was really in the making for decades, fueled by hate speech, discrimination, propaganda and the training of death squads. Hutus had come to resent Tutsis for their greater wealth and what they saw as oppressive rule.
Rwanda is the most densely populated country in mainland Africa, slightly smaller than the U.S. state of Maryland but with a population of more than 12 million. The countryside is lush green, filled with uncountable numbers of banana trees.
The Hutu-Tutsi divide may be the country's most notorious characteristic but also its most confounding. The two groups are so closely related that it's nearly impossible for an outsider to tell which the average Rwandan belongs to. Even Rwandans have trouble knowing who is who, especially after two decades of a government push to create a single Rwandan identity.

And the winner of this years most out of place sentence is...

never forget about the uncountable banana trees!


Coming to a theatre near you, directed by Quentin Tarantino, starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Samuel L. Jackson:

"BLOOD BANANA"
 
2014-04-07 02:35:58 AM

lymond01: I guess I would have to say forgiveness is only viable when you know your enemy's heart. I'm not sure people can decide to forgive on their own. I'm not sure they should. If their enemy is guilt-ridden and asks for forgiveness, it seems like that's the important piece.


I wanted to add this; it depends how repentant the person is....and even then I might forgive but not face.
 
2014-04-07 02:41:49 AM
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2014-04-07 02:44:11 AM

lymond01: I guess I would have to say forgiveness is only viable when you know your enemy's heart. I'm not sure people can decide to forgive on their own. I'm not sure they should. If their enemy is guilt-ridden and asks for forgiveness, it seems like that's the important piece.


And the only true way to know your enemy's heart is to see it sitting loose on your coffee-table.
 
2014-04-07 02:50:04 AM

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LOL
 
2014-04-07 02:57:48 AM
Yeah, only way I see that happening with me is if I'm trying to fool everyone so when the mangled body is found, no one would suspect me.

Uh...I mean forgiveness is totes awesome guys
 
2014-04-07 03:01:30 AM

Prof. Frink: And the only true way to know your enemy's heart is to see it sitting loose on your coffee-table.


You have to ingest it to truly know and experience its contents.
 
2014-04-07 03:33:37 AM

TappingTheVein: Sure, the same way a woman in Egypt or Morocco will marry her rapist. Water under the bridge i say. The woman hanging herself later is purely coincidental.


Raping usually isn't the same as mass killing, aside from a few leaders who've told their brainwashed armies that rape was important. Most people can be all but hypnotized by persuasive enough leaders, especially if their own lives are in danger. Look at Syria, where army recruits who refused to kill their own countrymen were immediately executed; kill or be killed is a strong incentive.

I focus on solving a problem, so what problem would a killing a broken, repentant, forever guilt-ridden man solve? It doesn't bring back a hand or a daughter, but coming to terms with it can keep you from going crazy and help mend a broken nation.
 
2014-04-07 04:01:03 AM

foxyshadis: I focus on solving a problem, so what problem would a killing a broken, repentant, forever guilt-ridden man solve? It doesn't bring back a hand or a daughter, but coming to terms with it can keep you from going crazy and help mend a broken nation.


It sure does. However in many occasions women in that part of the world lack what people in the West take for granted, like freedom or free will.
 
2014-04-07 04:06:21 AM
Remember, her daughter was killed by a man, subby. Romantic comedy, not buddy movie.
I believe that people only have the capacity to forgive that which they could see themselves doing under similar circumstances. So if you're a blood-crazed murderer who has just been forgiven by someone who was completely sincere, congrats, you just found your soulmate without having paid a cent to Cupiddotcom. Just make sure all edged weapons are locked out of sight during the honeymoon.
 
2014-04-07 06:22:27 AM
In the months after the genocide, guilt gnawed away at Emmanuel. He saw his victims during nightmares. In 1996, he turned himself in and confessed.
Read more at....


He should have killed himself.   And since he failed to do that, this biatch should kill him for us.   Seems minimal right and fair... minimally...    Maybe I am just not as good of a person as this lady, I dont know, but I do know that I couldn't forgive such a thing, nor live with him walking around, especially near me.
 
2014-04-07 06:24:20 AM

Lady Indica: Yeah, only way I see that happening with me is if I'm trying to fool everyone so when the mangled body is found, no one would suspect me.


Solving what problem, exactly? That type of reaction only guarantees the indefinite continuation of violence. This murderer turned himself in and served his jail time. Then he sought out the families of his victims to ask them forgiveness. He also speaks out, unlike those who want to act as if nothing happened.

"There are Hutus who hate me for telling the truth. There are those up until now who participated in the genocide who deny they took part."

This is not the man you should kill.
 
2014-04-07 06:32:51 AM

Ilmarinen: Lady Indica: Yeah, only way I see that happening with me is if I'm trying to fool everyone so when the mangled body is found, no one would suspect me.

Solving what problem, exactly? That type of reaction only guarantees the indefinite continuation of violence. This murderer turned himself in and served his jail time. Then he sought out the families of his victims to ask them forgiveness. He also speaks out, unlike those who want to act as if nothing happened.

"There are Hutus who hate me for telling the truth. There are those up until now who participated in the genocide who deny they took part."

This is not the man you should kill.


Forgive me for thinking that civilization has no place for such people.   Once you murder entire families you know longer have a place in this world.  I live on a strict policy that has a 1 child killing streak and you are out rule.  Sorry if that's a bit too harsh for some people.   Just like an animal that has had a taste of human flesh, they must be put down for the greater good.  We didn't forgive all the nazis did we?  No, we sent them through trials and killed them for years and years afterwards, and Germany appears to have gotten along just fine since then, so dont give me any of that societies must heal bullshiat...   Cut out the rancid flesh first, then it can heal....
 
2014-04-07 06:50:52 AM
"Hack" and "Chopped" are already taken.
 
2014-04-07 07:56:17 AM

Maul555: Ilmarinen: Lady Indica: Yeah, only way I see that happening with me is if I'm trying to fool everyone so when the mangled body is found, no one would suspect me.

Solving what problem, exactly? That type of reaction only guarantees the indefinite continuation of violence. This murderer turned himself in and served his jail time. Then he sought out the families of his victims to ask them forgiveness. He also speaks out, unlike those who want to act as if nothing happened.

"There are Hutus who hate me for telling the truth. There are those up until now who participated in the genocide who deny they took part."

This is not the man you should kill.

Forgive me for thinking that civilization has no place for such people.   Once you murder entire families you know longer have a place in this world.  I live on a strict policy that has a 1 child killing streak and you are out rule.  Sorry if that's a bit too harsh for some people.   Just like an animal that has had a taste of human flesh, they must be put down for the greater good.  We didn't forgive all the nazis did we?  No, we sent them through trials and killed them for years and years afterwards, and Germany appears to have gotten along just fine since then, so dont give me any of that societies must heal bullshiat...   Cut out the rancid flesh first, then it can heal....


Except "many officials from the Nazi regime found new jobs in Bonn. A surprising number were chosen for senior government positions." "Only 25,000 Germans from an army of millions of yesterday's collaborators were sentenced.... They were fined or banned from their professions, but they were rarely sent to prison."

Back to TFA. The guy confessed and went to prison. He feels remorse, unlike a man eating animal. Killing him now serves no useful purpose.
 
2014-04-07 08:10:24 AM
So, if the guy butchers that kid's sister, will their mother marry him?
 
2014-04-07 08:31:20 AM
"Given how we were told that the Tutsis were evil, after the first family I just felt like I was killing our enemies."

"But, once I discovered how delicious their Rolls were, I knew they couldn't be evil!"
 
2014-04-07 09:45:05 AM
This story makes me feel better and worse about humanity at the same time.
 
2014-04-07 12:00:25 PM
Yeah, I don't think I'd have that much will power to turn the other cheek. I'd want the person's head on a stick.
 
2014-04-07 12:07:00 PM
" .. forgives man that killed her .."

Who killed her, for crying out loud
 
2014-04-07 12:22:59 PM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: after the first family


I genuinely cannot comprehend being able to say that phrase in reference to murder and living with myself. Jesus farking Christ that is going to haunt me for a bit and I wasn't even there.
 
2014-04-07 01:10:30 PM

Lady Indica: Yeah, only way I see that happening with me is if I'm trying to fool everyone so when the mangled body is found, no one would suspect me.

Uh...I mean forgiveness is totes awesome guys


same here.  i think i'd have a hard time letting that one go.
 
2014-04-07 07:48:11 PM
Mighty white of her, if i do say so myself
 
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