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(Bloomberg)   Another top banking figure is found dead, this time with his wife and daughter. There is a storm coming   (bloomberg.com) divider line 39
    More: Interesting, bankers, Banco Santander SA, ABN AMRO, Schmittmann, Dutch police  
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2014-04-07 12:08:41 AM  
8 votes:
When we said "Jump, you farkers" we didn't mean take your families with you.
2014-04-07 04:27:47 AM  
4 votes:
Subby, if history is any indicator, and I think it is, then there is no one event, no "storm," that will end one system, one group, one nation state. This is not Middle Earth, but Earth. I know people would rather enjoy clear-cut enemies and evil targets, but that is not our reality. We do not suffer from social events that behave as weather events. We never have. Rome's end, civil rights, the Arab Spring are not measured in time, those convenient hours, but in endurance.

If there is an assassin roaming the world and killing bank executives, and this is the advent of a global revolution, your "storm," it likely started years ago and our children will not see it through. I know your desire, though, we want to see it all, complete, in one fell swoop.
2014-04-07 03:41:19 AM  
4 votes:

SilentStrider: I hope this is just a statistical anomaly and not the start of a bad trend.


It's just some mild statistical clustering.

That said, in all frankness if it was a trend I don't think "bad" is necessarily the right word.  These don't appear to be the basic personal-finance/property-management bankers that provide a valuable service to the community, these are the speculative finance/overleverage assholes that have crashed the world economy and ruined everything for millions of innocent people on multiple occasions and then bailed on their golden parachutes.

A whole lot of "and nothing of value was lost" going on there.
2014-04-06 10:39:08 PM  
3 votes:
Now if some on Wall Street would only follow.
2014-04-07 03:08:50 PM  
2 votes:

wesmon: Destructor: untaken_name: Why? I didn't choose their profession, their spouse, their breeding habits, or their involvement in whatever got their family killed. If the people involved didn't care about their families, why should I?

Compassion.

I find my compassion lacking for the trust fund kiddies living off the spoils their daddies made wrecking the global economy.


I have to say, they can't help what they were born into any more than anyone else, and now will never get the chance to reveal their character (if they'd grow up to be charitable and use their dumb luck for good, or just hoard it/squander it on themselves alone, or even use it for absolute universal evil whatever that looks like, zombie Hitler perhaps?)

when in any doubt, leave children out of the war
2014-04-07 06:12:00 AM  
2 votes:

danielscissorhands: Triumph: 1 - William Broeksmit, 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, was found dead in his home after an apparent suicide in South Kensington in central London, on January 26th.
2 - Karl Slym, 51 year old Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym, was found dead on the fourth floor of the Shangri-La hotel in Bangkok on January 27th.
3 - Gabriel Magee, a 39-year-old JP Morgan employee, died after falling from the roof of the JP Morgan European headquarters in London on January 27th.
4 - Mike Dueker, 50-year-old chief economist of a US investment bank was found dead close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State.
5 - Richard Talley, the 57 year old founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado, was found dead earlier this month after apparently shooting himself with a nail gun.
6 - Tim Dickenson, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG, also died last month, however the circumstances surrounding his death are still unknown.
7 - Ryan Henry Crane, a 37 year old executive at JP Morgan died in an alleged suicide just a few weeks ago.  No details have been released about his death aside from this small obituary announcement at the Stamford Daily Voice.
8 - Li Junjie, 33-year-old banker in Hong Kong jumped from the JP Morgan HQ in Hong Kong this week.
9 - James Stuart Jr,Former National Bank of Commerce CEO, found dead in Scottsdale, Ariz., the morning of Feb. 19. A family spokesman did not say whatcaused the death
10 - Edmund (Eddie) Reilly, 47,a trader at Midtown's Vertical Group, commited suicide by jumping in front of LIRR train
11 - Kenneth Bellando, 28, a trader at Levy Capital, formerly investment banking analyst at JPMorgan, jumped to his death from his 6th floor East Side apartment.
12 - Jan Peter Schmittmann, 57, the former CEO of Dutch bank ABN Amro found dead at home near Amsterdam with wife and daughter.

 The Cluster Effect

A nail gun? Jumping from the 6TH floor?

Did they have shares in a company that profits off the severely maimed?


Finance doesn't really require that much intelligence. It's salesmanship.
2014-04-07 05:12:27 AM  
2 votes:
thesecretliberalagenda.com
2014-04-07 04:59:35 AM  
2 votes:
What are the statistics for suicides for guys like this?  If these deaths represent a sudden upswing, maybe it bears watching.  I dunno, mostly I guess I just think some kind of conspiracy would be exciting.  Not that I want people to die, but if they're going to anyway it might as well be entertaining.
2014-04-07 04:09:16 AM  
2 votes:

buzzgoat: But, this is all speculation. Just thinking through my fingers as it were.


Leave the thinking to your head.

Nobody can figure out anything anymore due to ever increasing complexity.
Assuming that the lemmings were in the know is tin-foil worthy.

More likely, the suiciders are just realizing that they've done shiatty things and can't cope anymore.
Just like how old people can sometimes survive the winter, but come spring they croak.

It's often when things start to look a little better, that we realize what a toll a crisis has had on us.
Like getting sick on the same day your vacation starts.
2014-04-07 03:02:35 AM  
2 votes:

doglover: I stand corrected, quite a few jumps abroad.

They must know something we soon will.


Eh, looks like a pretty random list to me
2014-04-06 11:50:25 PM  
2 votes:
1 - William Broeksmit, 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, was found dead in his home after an apparent suicide in South Kensington in central London, on January 26th.
2 - Karl Slym, 51 year old Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym, was found dead on the fourth floor of the Shangri-La hotel in Bangkok on January 27th.
3 - Gabriel Magee, a 39-year-old JP Morgan employee, died after falling from the roof of the JP Morgan European headquarters in London on January 27th.
4 - Mike Dueker, 50-year-old chief economist of a US investment bank was found dead close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State.
5 - Richard Talley, the 57 year old founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado, was found dead earlier this month after apparently shooting himself with a nail gun.
6 - Tim Dickenson, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG, also died last month, however the circumstances surrounding his death are still unknown.
7 - Ryan Henry Crane, a 37 year old executive at JP Morgan died in an alleged suicide just a few weeks ago.  No details have been released about his death aside from this small obituary announcement at the Stamford Daily Voice.
8 - Li Junjie, 33-year-old banker in Hong Kong jumped from the JP Morgan HQ in Hong Kong this week.
9 - James Stuart Jr,Former National Bank of Commerce CEO, found dead in Scottsdale, Ariz., the morning of Feb. 19. A family spokesman did not say whatcaused the death
10 - Edmund (Eddie) Reilly, 47,a trader at Midtown's Vertical Group, commited suicide by jumping in front of LIRR train
11 - Kenneth Bellando, 28, a trader at Levy Capital, formerly investment banking analyst at JPMorgan, jumped to his death from his 6th floor East Side apartment.
12 - Jan Peter Schmittmann, 57, the former CEO of Dutch bank ABN Amro found dead at home near Amsterdam with wife and daughter.

 The Cluster Effect
2014-04-07 03:01:56 PM  
1 votes:

Destructor: So.... Everyone here is going to burn their 401k's, I hope. You know, solidarity and stuff that banking and investing is evil. EVIL....

Because if you don't... perhaps you're just as bad as the people you hate so much.

[www.drfunkenberry.com image 320x396]

After all... you're feeding them.


I can't speak for the [other] conspiracy theorists, but gambling, investing, getting paid interest, and all that other stuff like that is not evil, it's the lies they told in order to sell their product (the bundled sub-prime mortgages). If you're an austrian economist, even you (should) still believe that the free market requires some ground rules (you know, not lying about your product, not killing customers, not destroying the economy, not conspiring to form monopolies/oligopolies, not using economic power to change the rules to favor your company and hurt your competitors)

Those who did that, and who worked to lessen regulations that allowed them to do that, and put their guys in the role of the regulating agency, should be publicly tortured and hanged, not just for justice, but to send a message to future sociopaths (and their accomplices), that this is what happens when you go that far and flagrantly cause that much damage. They knew what they were doing
2014-04-07 10:37:56 AM  
1 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: doglover: I stand corrected, quite a few jumps abroad.

They must know something we soon will.

Eh, looks like a pretty random list to me


Agree 100%
Take any random profession and I would bet you can compile such a list pretty easily. High stress and other problems that all of us face on a daily basis will sometimes lead to premature death.
2014-04-07 08:57:34 AM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: Tatterdemalian: //because nothing can be built on the foundation of superstition and fanaticism we call "feelings"
///the cash is needed because it's cold and hard, not in spite of it

Two points:
1. Civilization predated fractional reserve banking
2. The cash is neither cold nor hard, but imaginary. "Cash" (actually promissory notes, as stated right on them) represents a drop in the bucket of the economy. Not even really worth noticing.


Funny how cash can be both all-important and worthless, depending on what you need it to be to support your argument. But being imaginary doesn't make it harmless, and cash, like law, is actually as cold and hard as the people that enforce its value.

/the problem with the economy isn't that the bankers are too mean, but because they are being forced - literally at gunpoint - to be too nice
//the value of the money, like the rule of law, softens as people try to force it to be kinder than it was ever meant to be
///and, like the new "social justice" replacing actual justice, the end result will be societal collapse, not social progress
2014-04-07 08:30:38 AM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: The same thing that makes me unsympathetic to Mafia members who are "whacked". They are a part of a fundamentally criminal enterprise and they deserve everything they get and more just for that.


I see.

Well, I hope you won't taint yourself with credit cards, mortgages, loans, direct deposit, any kind of investment vehicle, or even a checking account. Just keep your money under your mattress. Otherwise, your complicit in Big Banking.
2014-04-07 08:18:43 AM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: You want me to have compassion for the profession responsible for ruining almost as many lives as the prison industry? You reap what you sow, and I didn't sow their destruction. They did. Why have compassion for them but not the millions of families who've lost their homes? Oh, right, they're more important than all those worthless poor they destroyed because they're rich. fark your compassion.


Yes. It starts with that.

Sure, punish the evil doers. But you better well make damned sure you got the right evil doer. Our justice system (sigh... at one time) was built on the idea that it was better to free 10 guilty men than to punish one innocent man.

What makes these men guilty? That they killed themselves and therefore they are evil? You don't know... or do you?
2014-04-07 08:08:39 AM  
1 votes:

wesmon: I find my compassion lacking for the trust fund kiddies living off the spoils their daddies made wrecking the global economy.


Well, maybe you're right. Maybe the whole family is no damned good.

Then again, maybe you're wrong. I don't know who these bankers are. For all I know, they just fought a losing battle against the forces of banking darkness and were forced to kill themselves for the sake of their families, "or else".

Bankers and banking isn't evil. It serves a useful purpose in society. Sure, there have been many terrible abuses and lots of wreckage. But this "hang 'em all" mentality is really dangerous.
2014-04-07 08:06:27 AM  
1 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com
our storm.
2014-04-07 07:42:05 AM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: Why? I didn't choose their profession, their spouse, their breeding habits, or their involvement in whatever got their family killed. If the people involved didn't care about their families, why should I?


Compassion.
2014-04-07 06:55:06 AM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: When we said "Jump, you farkers" we didn't mean take your families with you.


Speak for yourself.
2014-04-07 06:41:04 AM  
1 votes:

CoonAce: August11:  If there is an assassin roaming the world and killing bank executives, and this is the advent of a global revolution, your "storm," it likely started years ago and our children will not see it through. I know your desire, though, we want to see it all, complete, in one fell swoop.

It's quite the opposite of a "people's" revolution.  A few may be legitimate suicides, but largely these guys weren't playing ball.  A bunch of mid-level JFKs, so to speak, only with better plausible deniability.  (Except for the flagrant nailgun incident; anyone who believes that was suicide is a sucker, and that's putting it kindly.)


Interesting. By "playing ball," you mean they were not adhering to internal policies? I'm not surprised they have a weaponed arm of the organization.
2014-04-07 06:31:41 AM  
1 votes:

God-is-a-Taco: buzzgoat: God-is-a-Taco: buzzgoat:
 Not sure if serious.jpg


I want to visit your world where the rich and powerful suffer for their mistakes instead of it being pushed onto the pooe and downtrodden.
Anyway, I was being theatrical and referenced this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_heaven for extra effect.
You don't touch the banks.


So that's like the Asian "Ordained by God" of the middle ages in the EU, I get it. Still doesn't exist.

And we all "touch the banks" If you have a retirement acount, you're invested in all the "bad" things, oil, war, income inequality, etc..

I think coruption is the third occupation to exist.
1. Farming (to eat and then to make money)
2. Prostitution ( to make money without farming)
3. Coruption ( to take money that you neither had to farm or fark for)
2014-04-07 06:26:31 AM  
1 votes:
Note to self:  Do not accept any job offers from JPM.
2014-04-07 06:09:21 AM  
1 votes:
Too bad..would have been a happy story if he didn't punctuate the end of his existence with the murder of two innocents.

If the Pistorius saga has taught me anything, it's only a tragedy if they were hawt.

/dnrtfa
2014-04-07 05:36:33 AM  
1 votes:

Fart_Machine: So by "family tragedy" are we talking murder/suicide or someone left the oven on.


In Dutch media it usually means the former.

And regardless of what scumbags these bankers may or may not be, if a parent killing their spouse and children and themselves makes you feel better, there's something quite wrong with you.

/not directed at you, Fart_Machine
2014-04-07 05:30:19 AM  
1 votes:
Psychopath enough to elbow his way to the top of a bank. Psychopath enough to kill his innocent wife and daughter.
2014-04-07 04:33:01 AM  
1 votes:
Did anyone say aliens yet? Because it's totally aliens.
2014-04-07 04:04:36 AM  
1 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: doglover: I stand corrected, quite a few jumps abroad.

They must know something we soon will.

Eh, looks like a pretty random list to me


If I was going to kill off all the bankers who refused to accept the control of the Illuminati, I'd have my reptilian assassins make it look like a random list of people whose only connection was at one time holding a position in a financial company dying of both natural causes and unrelated suicides and misadventures in many different nations over a long period of time. It's just good sense, right? Right? Anyone? Beuler?

www.geek-art.net
2014-04-07 04:04:25 AM  
1 votes:

Triumph: 1 - William Broeksmit, 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, was found dead in his home after an apparent suicide in South Kensington in central London, on January 26th.
2 - Karl Slym, 51 year old Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym, was found dead on the fourth floor of the Shangri-La hotel in Bangkok on January 27th.
3 - Gabriel Magee, a 39-year-old JP Morgan employee, died after falling from the roof of the JP Morgan European headquarters in London on January 27th.
4 - Mike Dueker, 50-year-old chief economist of a US investment bank was found dead close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State.
5 - Richard Talley, the 57 year old founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado, was found dead earlier this month after apparently shooting himself with a nail gun.
6 - Tim Dickenson, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG, also died last month, however the circumstances surrounding his death are still unknown.
7 - Ryan Henry Crane, a 37 year old executive at JP Morgan died in an alleged suicide just a few weeks ago.  No details have been released about his death aside from this small obituary announcement at the Stamford Daily Voice.
8 - Li Junjie, 33-year-old banker in Hong Kong jumped from the JP Morgan HQ in Hong Kong this week.
9 - James Stuart Jr,Former National Bank of Commerce CEO, found dead in Scottsdale, Ariz., the morning of Feb. 19. A family spokesman did not say whatcaused the death
10 - Edmund (Eddie) Reilly, 47,a trader at Midtown's Vertical Group, commited suicide by jumping in front of LIRR train
11 - Kenneth Bellando, 28, a trader at Levy Capital, formerly investment banking analyst at JPMorgan, jumped to his death from his 6th floor East Side apartment.
12 - Jan Peter Schmittmann, 57, the former CEO of Dutch bank ABN Amro found dead at home near Amsterdam with wife and daughter.

 The Cluster Effect


A nail gun? Jumping from the 6TH floor?

Did they have shares in a company that profits off the severely maimed?
2014-04-07 03:39:12 AM  
1 votes:
Worked in both domestic and international finance here and abroad. I spent 2007-2011 really trying not to jump off a bridge next to my apartment. Had a hard time watching so many people laid off, the markets so farked up because of greedy bastards, clients and innocent people ruined. I know that my job was just "normal" stressful for the industry. Many of the guys listed in by Farker Triumph were in the bleeding edge of priority juggling. I can't tell you the number of times I was on the receiving end of of bullshiat from those types. The shiat flows downward.

I've spent the last 2-3 years piecing my head together and I'm only finally starting to feel somewhat human. I try to sleep and many days, the moment I drift off, I wake up feeling like I'm having a heart attack. I'm not. Permanently lost the ability to digest certain foods, but who really needs to eat brussels sprouts?
2014-04-07 03:36:10 AM  
1 votes:

SilentStrider: I hope this is just a statistical anomaly and not the start of a bad trend.


It's definitely unusual, especially the 4 JPM related ones in a matter of weeks, 2 of them AT work.
2014-04-07 03:21:27 AM  
1 votes:
"You know what they call me in the ancient legends on the Dalek home world JP Morgan headquarters? 'The Oncoming Storm.' You might have removed all your emotions, but I reckon right down deep in your DNA there's one little spark left. And that's fear. Doesn't it just burn when you face me?"
2014-04-07 03:17:30 AM  
1 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: looks like a pretty random list to me


There's nothing super consistent, but there are some interesting commonalities here and there. Maybe the most chilling one, though, is clearly unrelated to the others. That's the nail gun guy. He shoots himself 7 times in the chest and then finally puts one in his head and the cops immediately ruled it a suicide. If true, that is one seriously messed up state of mind.
2014-04-07 03:10:46 AM  
1 votes:
Did they all commit suicide by nailgun?

/dnrtfa
//good riddance
2014-04-07 01:28:50 AM  
1 votes:
I stand corrected, quite a few jumps abroad.

They must know something we soon will.
2014-04-07 01:20:32 AM  
1 votes:
I hope this is just a statistical anomaly and not the start of a bad trend.
2014-04-07 12:26:41 AM  
1 votes:
Sounds like a future episode of The Blacklist

/maybe a movie as well
2014-04-06 11:53:44 PM  
1 votes:
Hi stress profession leads to suicides. Film at 11.
2014-04-06 11:51:58 PM  
1 votes:
That came from here
 
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