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(NPR)   Appalachia: "Hey, there's more to offer here than just blind kids playing banjo, and filthy, haggard, sunken-eyed, inbred chain smokers living in abject poverty"   (npr.org) divider line 193
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2014-04-06 11:07:27 PM

Calmamity: Lucky LaRue: Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.

Too bad you can't teach everyone your unique style of tolerance. Imagine how much better their lives could be if Appalachians learned from you how not to treat others with prejudice and bigotry.

I grew up in Crossville, Tennessee.

I know I'm not wrong.


My family's been in Bledsoe and Cumberland since the 1830s. It's pretty sad how poor the area is.
 
2014-04-06 11:07:52 PM

DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.


If that offended you, how do you manage to stay on fark? The anti-semitism here is fairly extreme.

/not to mention perpetuated by the lefties
 
2014-04-06 11:07:57 PM

kidakita: Any of you smug westerners ever been to Happy Camp, California or traveled the Klamath River corridor from I-5 to Hoopa? YeeHaw!


I used to go hunting with the old man at a place called Valsetz in Oregon. Yea, straight up overalls on porch with rocking chair and teeth optional towns along the way.

It's practically rain forest up there too. Rains 340 days a year up there or some such.

Goodnight Johnboy
 
2014-04-06 11:08:29 PM

farkingismybusiness: Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.

I would have thought that hillbillies had thicker skin. With having no shoes and all...


hahaha.. tell me a joke about Asians and their driving skills, next!
 
2014-04-06 11:10:56 PM

Lucky LaRue: farkingismybusiness: Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.

I would have thought that hillbillies had thicker skin. With having no shoes and all...

hahaha.. tell me a joke about Asians and their driving skills, next!


Why don't you make like an Asian woman driver and get lost.
 
2014-04-06 11:11:21 PM

b0rg9: discgolfguru: linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding

Hatfield McCoy trails?

Those families are Kentucky hills.


Ugh, well didn't know that was an actual WV trail thing.
 
2014-04-06 11:12:13 PM
Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.

That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.


I gotcha:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmmWc99YPdw
 
2014-04-06 11:21:39 PM

Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.


Take heart that the true sociopaths do not discriminate.
 
2014-04-06 11:22:25 PM

Lucky LaRue: Bizarro: As a West Coast transplant to the ATL, I can honestly say the Southern states and by extension Appalachia can't really be explained unless you live here for a bit. Even after several years residence, I am still winging it.

I was raised in Appalachia (West Virgina) for 20 years and I've spent 22 years in the south (South Carolina).  There is a world of difference between the two cultures - trying to compare them is (I imagine) like comparing the peoples of New York and Chicago.  That isn't to say Georgia doesn't have a little bit of Appalachia, but you aren't going to find it in Atlanta.


Agreed- I grew up in Appalachia- VA and spend a good bit of time in Charlotte and coastal SC. They are all very different.

I moved to MN 15 years ago. I love it here, I miss the mountains and Minnesotans are nice but mostly aliens
 
2014-04-06 11:23:53 PM

KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.


Fark has and always will also make fun of California and NYC. Get over yourself. You can defend your state without whining. The only places I've lived in are Texas and California, join the club, this site is based on haters.
 
2014-04-06 11:24:09 PM

UsikFark: Cpl.D: We also have coal!  And slate!  And COAL!  CLEAN COAL!

Replace clean coal with flying cars and the odds don't change. Both would require billions in new research and production.


I know hehe.  I was Poe-ing my own people.
 
2014-04-06 11:27:51 PM

TheJoe03: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

Fark has and always will also make fun of California and NYC. Get over yourself. You can defend your state without whining. The only places I've lived in are Texas and California, join the club, this site is based on haters.


You can hate on the south, NYC, lots ethnic/ linguistic groups but only one state has its own fark tag.

/and I avoid going there as much as possible
 
2014-04-06 11:28:45 PM

Cpl.D: UsikFark: Cpl.D: We also have coal!  And slate!  And COAL!  CLEAN COAL!

Replace clean coal with flying cars and the odds don't change. Both would require billions in new research and production.

I know hehe.  I was Poe-ing my own people.


I can dig it.
 
2014-04-06 11:31:21 PM
In some parts of Appalachia there's Sheetz.

www.yeahhedid.com

Mmmm, delicious gas station food. And twenty different kinds of wintergreen snuff!
 
2014-04-06 11:32:56 PM

Carousel Beast: DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.

If that offended you, how do you manage to stay on fark? The anti-semitism here is fairly extreme.

/not to mention perpetuated by the lefties


As someone living in Jewville 2.0 (AKA south Florida) I can honestly ask...you think FARK is anti-semetic?


..

...

....

REALLY?
 
2014-04-06 11:38:16 PM

b0rg9: discgolfguru: linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding

Hatfield McCoy trails?

Those families are Kentucky hills.


Devil Ants frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2014-04-06 11:38:54 PM
Oh, lawd. Did I really do that?

Anse.
 
2014-04-06 11:40:06 PM

DoctorCal: Oh, lawd. Did I really do that?

Anse.


I thought that was the joke.
 
2014-04-06 11:50:05 PM

Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.


I'm from the ass backward part of Southwestern New York that makes up the northern tip of Appalachia, and I will slander the shiat out of it.  The smart people got the hell out of Dodge soon after graduation.  The really smart people stayed gone.  There are some of the worst anti-intellectual, God bothering, racist assholes I have ever come across in my home county.  The small cities out that way are also mini Rust Belt implosions, so it's the best of both hellholes.  The only bright spots is that the state education system in New York gives people the possibility of a way out, and it isn't western Pennsylvania.  You also get taxed to the back teeth for those minor privileges.  It is indeed pretty territory, but the disadvantages sorely outweigh the benefits.
 
2014-04-06 11:56:49 PM

wellreadneck: DoctorCal: Oh, lawd. Did I really do that?

Anse.

I thought that was the joke.


Nope. Just a brain fart to what I thought the name was when I was a little kid.
 
2014-04-07 12:11:25 AM

TheJoe03: Fark has and always will also make fun of California and NYC.


And Utah.  Don't forget Utah.
 
2014-04-07 12:20:30 AM

DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.


I was in Roanoke, VA for a business trip in February. Drove down from DC. It was like entering a different world.
 
2014-04-07 12:23:43 AM

discgolfguru: doosh: I dated my sister for a while but I'm from Nitro, West by God Virginia so suck it all y'alls!

Nitro isn't bad. Smells funny, but not bad. Boone County here. Yeehaw and all that.


Spent the last three years with The BCAA scraping your neighbors off the roadways before I left the biz.  I have people there lol :)
 
2014-04-07 12:30:51 AM

lindalouwho: There was, for the women, a total loss of an environment that compels the joy of gripping, total lust.


I'm here to help
 
2014-04-07 12:30:51 AM
Duke Energy has to have a lot of expendable people to mine it's coal..And that's what Appalachia is. It's a people just educated enough to work in coal mines and breed more miners.That's just the
way they have kept it.
 
2014-04-07 12:33:49 AM

Lucky LaRue: ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps

They are 3-4" tall in Greenbrier county right now.. Just perfect.


Can you grow those at sea level at a low latitutde, or do they require a frost?  Sound like some of the Asian garlicky greens here in SoCal in some Chinese or Korean supermarkets.
 
2014-04-07 12:43:51 AM

Calmamity: Lucky LaRue: Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.

Too bad you can't teach everyone your unique style of tolerance. Imagine how much better their lives could be if Appalachians learned from you how not to treat others with prejudice and bigotry.

I grew up in Crossville, Tennessee.

I know I'm not wrong.


Crossville doesn't seem too bad.  At least Fall Creek Falls SP and Virgin Falls Pocket Wilderness are nearby.
 
2014-04-07 12:47:25 AM

Lucky LaRue: UsikFark: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

The founder of this site is some sort of drunk white Replublican so it's all pretty tongue in cheek.

"it's all pretty tounge in cheek" sounds a lot like "you should learn to take a joke". And I've heard that to appologize for more racists a bigoted remarks than I care to think about.


If you can take a dick in the ass you can take a joke?

/balance is restored.
//you're welcome.
///threes
 
2014-04-07 01:00:04 AM
Welcome to London,Ky. Here's your complimentary meth pipe,straw to snort pills and a few needles to shoot up with. Just throw them anywhere,no one gives a shiat.
/Lived in southeast Ky my entire life and this place is farked up.
 
2014-04-07 01:16:12 AM

TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.


I resent that; I am a pretentious elitist who has been there, several times in fact. Makes you realize Deliverance left the worst stuff -out- of the movie actually.

/One of my co-workers escaped from his upbringing there. Not only the first person in his family to go to college, in his estimation more like the first one in his family to leave the trees and walk fully upright. Showed me a picture of a family reunion once; dozens of guys in either no shirt or a wifebeater, only two with shirts with sleeves. Those were the two that -weren't - felons apparently. He showed me which one had recently stabbed another one at a third ones parole party.
//They were the upstanding family in that set of hollows.
 
2014-04-07 01:23:25 AM
Meanwhile in WNC:

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-07 01:23:36 AM
34-32.
 
2014-04-07 01:57:46 AM
Meth, Moonshine and Marijuana.  Who says back-country livin' can't be lucrative?
 
2014-04-07 04:10:55 AM

Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.

That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.


Okay, I just heard that a welfare mother living on Gottingen street was spotted coming out of an abortion clinic. Crime Stoppers paid her 50 bucks.
 
2014-04-07 04:28:10 AM

kidakita: Any of you smug westerners ever been to Happy Camp, California or traveled the Klamath River corridor from I-5 to Hoopa? YeeHaw!


Oh yeah! The Klamath Falls area to Umpqua is as backwoods as it gets!
 
2014-04-07 04:29:21 AM

Theory Of Null: Squeal like a pig should be added to tourism brochures.


For all his other accomplishments actor Ned Beatty will forever be remembered as "that guy in Deliverance who got ass raped." :(

www.riprenfield.com
 
2014-04-07 04:35:53 AM

BlueJay206: Meth, Moonshine and Marijuana.  Who says back-country livin' can't be lucrative?



Meth is more of a west coast problem.  Loved all the hiking and snow skiing as a kid in WV.  We used to call the poor kids creekers on account of them not making it in to school on days when there was a particularly hard rain.  I remember hiking to the bottom of the New River Gorge Bridge to watch the base jumpers every year.
i1173.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-07 04:42:19 AM

bbcard1: West Virginia is has vast untapped economic potential that will stay untapped because of incompetent (or sometimes crooked) politicians from the local level up, unionbusters, and nepotism. The brain drain and talent drain from the state is a lot more than you might believe. Tennessee and Virginia are basically three or four different states within one border.


FTFY.
 
2014-04-07 04:56:39 AM

discgolfguru: doosh: I dated my sister for a while but I'm from Nitro, West by God Virginia so suck it all y'alls!

Nitro isn't bad. Smells funny, but not bad. Boone County here. Yeehaw and all that.


Pocatalico, represent!

But I was born near Syracuse, NY...
 
2014-04-07 05:34:47 AM

cynicalbastard: Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.


Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.


That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.


Okay, I just heard that a welfare mother living on Gottingen street was spotted coming out of an abortion clinic. Crime Stoppers paid her 50 bucks.


That stereotype applies to any race. Coward.

Lucky LaRue: farkingismybusiness: Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.


That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.


I would have thought that hillbillies had thicker skin. With having no shoes and all...


hahaha.. tell me a joke about Asians and their driving skills, next!


Nah. Cowards in here will only bash crackas. I think it makes them feel like they're washing away their sins.

"Affrilachia" Never heard that before. Actually rolls of the tongue nicely.
 
2014-04-07 05:55:58 AM
Racism never even occurred to me when I was growing up in WV.  Of course the state is like 95 percent white and It's hard to hate someone you've never met.  But they were quite proud of the fact that WV split from Virginia during the civil war because they were against slavery.  There was even a provision in the state constitution that freed the slaves in the state.  But for some reason everyone thinks that the people there a racists.
 
2014-04-07 06:49:25 AM

billwill: Meth is more of a west coast problem.


um, no.

just thought I might point out your handy chart tracks people -admitted for drug treatment-. not drug arrests, or drug use, but drug treatment programs.
what do you think the odds are that places like texas even -have- drug treatment programs. not bloody likely. since they cut out even the popular programs with public funding, i can't believe they would be funding those types of rehab programs.
california on the other hand, that i could see.

/think the chart has more to do with who is and isn't funding public health programs, not where the meth is. which is in the south, btw.
 
2014-04-07 06:51:14 AM
the woods and slurry ponds.
 
2014-04-07 07:17:30 AM

Ivan the Tolerable: billwill: Meth is more of a west coast problem.

um, no.

just thought I might point out your handy chart tracks people -admitted for drug treatment-. not drug arrests, or drug use, but drug treatment programs.
what do you think the odds are that places like texas even -have- drug treatment programs. not bloody likely. since they cut out even the popular programs with public funding, i can't believe they would be funding those types of rehab programs.
california on the other hand, that i could see.

/think the chart has more to do with who is and isn't funding public health programs, not where the meth is. which is in the south, btw.


Indiana has more clandestine meth labs than any other state
 
2014-04-07 07:19:55 AM

Carousel Beast: DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.

If that offended you, how do you manage to stay on fark? The anti-semitism here is fairly extreme.

/not to mention perpetuated by the lefties


Noticing that the Israelis treat Palestinians extremely poorly doesn't make you an anti-Semite or a leftie.

It just means you noticed Israelis are hypocritical.
 
2014-04-07 07:40:24 AM

Bonzo_1116: Lucky LaRue: ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps

They are 3-4" tall in Greenbrier county right now.. Just perfect.

Can you grow those at sea level at a low latitutde, or do they require a frost?  Sound like some of the Asian garlicky greens here in SoCal in some Chinese or Korean supermarkets.


I've never heard of anyone growing ramps as a crop (probably because they are only tasty when they are young - 2 maybe 3 weeks after they first appear), but since they start coming up around the time the snow is coming off the ground, I would suspect they need some cold weather.  My wife (Chinese) has used ramps as a substitute for chives.  Sometimes successfully, but also with some notable disasters (eg:  Pork and chive dumplings are delicious.  Pork and ramp dumplings taste like ass).
 
2014-04-07 07:58:22 AM

DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.


I reeeealy hate to point out that Roanoke =/= Appalachia.
 
2014-04-07 07:58:45 AM

2wolves: I grew up in Appalachia.  Too many were too stubborn to ever leave or recognize the grinding poverty which was a day to day fact of life.


I grew up there too. There are too many there who would rather hang around there and be "characters" around town . Also making the gubermint pay welfare benefits for beating them in the war is a bonus .
 
2014-04-07 08:16:18 AM

ghare: Carousel Beast: DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.

If that offended you, how do you manage to stay on fark? The anti-semitism here is fairly extreme.

/not to mention perpetuated by the lefties

Noticing that the Israelis treat Palestinians extremely poorly doesn't make you an anti-Semite or a leftie.

It just means you noticed Israelis are hypocritical.


It's not problem if you can realize that Muslim nations treat Jews much worse. There are Jews from North Africa and the Middle East that lived there before the Arabs and Muslims took control that were violently forced out of their homelands into Israel in the first place. Sephardic Jews look at Muslims the same way Ashkanzi Jews view Germans. I say all this as someone who can't stand the right wing Israeli view on the whole situation.
 
2014-04-07 08:18:34 AM

listernine: DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

I reeeealy hate to point out that Roanoke =/= Appalachia.


It's in the Appalachian Valley, Daniel Boone. Hence, it's part of Appalachia.
 
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