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(NPR)   Appalachia: "Hey, there's more to offer here than just blind kids playing banjo, and filthy, haggard, sunken-eyed, inbred chain smokers living in abject poverty"   ( npr.org) divider line
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2014-04-06 05:53:15 PM  
Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.
 
2014-04-06 05:56:57 PM  
Don't be so negative Uncle-Daddy.  You;re making baby cousin cry!
 
2014-04-06 06:04:03 PM  
I grew up in Appalachia.  Too many were too stubborn to ever leave or recognize the grinding poverty which was a day to day fact of life.
 
2014-04-06 06:08:03 PM  
Yes, there's also the cave-dwelling mutant human-flesh eaters.
 
2014-04-06 06:23:02 PM  
Yah but who's going to drive all that way to see gun toting militas, zombie apocolypse preppers, and incest cults?
 
2014-04-06 06:26:33 PM  

Ambivalence: Yah but who's going to drive all that way to see gun toting militas, zombie apocolypse preppers, and incest cults?


Idaho is not in Appalachia.
 
2014-04-06 06:38:15 PM  

Calmamity: Ambivalence: Yah but who's going to drive all that way to see gun toting militas, zombie apocolypse preppers, and incest cults?

Idaho is not in Appalachia.


Idaho is the Appalachia of the west.
 
2014-04-06 06:58:36 PM  
Don't forget sippy cups of Mountain Dew rotting children's teeth.
 
2014-04-06 07:14:57 PM  
"poverty porn"

deathandtaxesmag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com


paulseta: Yes, there's also the cave-dwelling mutant human-flesh eaters.


CHUDs?
 
2014-04-06 07:36:24 PM  
There was a dick sucking fluff piece on Bob Corker in the Knoxville News Sentinal this morning.

Strangely they didn't ask why TN was such a shiat hole  ... I'm sure another couple centuries of conservative values will bring us prosperity
 
2014-04-06 08:12:40 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: There was a dick sucking fluff piece on Bob Corker in the Knoxville News Sentinal this morning.

Strangely they didn't ask why TN was such a shiat hole  ... I'm sure another couple centuries of conservative values will bring us prosperity


s2.quickmeme.com
 
2014-04-06 08:41:56 PM  
Any of you smug westerners ever been to Happy Camp, California or traveled the Klamath River corridor from I-5 to Hoopa? YeeHaw!
 
2014-04-06 08:49:23 PM  
Duh. I learned that from MTV's Buckwild.
 
2014-04-06 08:54:19 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: There was a dick sucking fluff piece on Bob Corker in the Knoxville News Sentinal this morning.

Strangely they didn't ask why TN was such a shiat hole  ... I'm sure another couple centuries of conservative values will bring us prosperity


Nashville and Knoxville are doing quite well, thanks.

You're more than welcome to relocate to that liberal utopia called Memphis.
 
2014-04-06 08:55:11 PM  

Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.


And Oxycontin!
 
2014-04-06 08:55:45 PM  
I dated my sister for a while but I'm from Nitro, West by God Virginia so suck it all y'alls!
 
2014-04-06 08:58:07 PM  

farkingismybusiness: Duh. I learned that from MTV's Buckwild.


My wife taught a couple of those kids in school a few years back, and knew some of the others. While they were certainly "redneckish", their behavior on the show was much more exaggerated than they behaved in real life, apparently. I suspect most reality shows are like that, I guess.
 
2014-04-06 08:59:17 PM  

doosh: I dated my sister for a while but I'm from Nitro, West by God Virginia so suck it all y'alls!


Nitro isn't bad. Smells funny, but not bad. Boone County here. Yeehaw and all that.
 
2014-04-06 09:00:31 PM  
Shorter article: Appalachia isn't just poor white people!  It's also got a few poor black and hispanic people too!
 
2014-04-06 09:01:03 PM  
fta The region's population growth is increasingly fueled by minorities,

So, more electric bass than banjo?
 
2014-04-06 09:02:41 PM  
Huntington, WV was just named America's fattest city.

Another thing Appalachia has going for it.
 
2014-04-06 09:02:56 PM  

Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.


Too bad you can't teach everyone your unique style of tolerance. Imagine how much better their lives could be if Appalachians learned from you how not to treat others with prejudice and bigotry.
 
2014-04-06 09:02:57 PM  

discgolfguru: farkingismybusiness: Duh. I learned that from MTV's Buckwild.

My wife taught a couple of those kids in school a few years back, and knew some of the others. While they were certainly "redneckish", their behavior on the show was much more exaggerated than they behaved in real life, apparently. I suspect most reality shows are like that, I guess.


Oh sure!  Next you'll claim Springer's guests make stuff up, too.
 
2014-04-06 09:03:36 PM  
The dueling banjo kid was not blind.
 
2014-04-06 09:04:06 PM  
doosh:

Nitro!  One of my favorite exit signs ever!  Usually see it once a year, maybe twice this year!
 
2014-04-06 09:05:19 PM  

aharown: The dueling banjo kid was not blind.


Yeah, but I kinda want him to be blind, y'know?
 
2014-04-06 09:07:10 PM  
Asheville NC is pretty badass *shrug*
 
2014-04-06 09:09:33 PM  
Some of those scripted reality shows take place in Appalachia. Ostensibly.
 
2014-04-06 09:09:36 PM  

aharown: The dueling banjo kid was not blind.


Yep, he could see.  He just couldn't play the banjo.
 
2014-04-06 09:11:19 PM  
and, of course they are 'value voters'
 
2014-04-06 09:12:03 PM  

Notabunny: fta The region's population growth is increasingly fueled by minorities,

So, more electric bass than banjo?


Pffft. 4 piece horn sections. The place got soul now
 
2014-04-06 09:12:23 PM  

Carousel Beast: Nashville and Knoxville are doing quite well, thanks.


You do realize that Nashville is about 50-50 split between Republican and Democratic voters, right?

No. Of course you didn't.

Also, spend a day riding with Nashville Fire. They have the same problems as Memphis outside of the "rich" areas.
 
2014-04-06 09:13:40 PM  

Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.


Then you go on a multi-day backpack trip off the Trail and get to meet the real characters.
 
2014-04-06 09:13:51 PM  
As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.
 
2014-04-06 09:15:12 PM  

DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism and morbid obesity.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.


FTFM.  There are a lot of fat people here too.
 
2014-04-06 09:16:20 PM  

Notabunny: fta The region's population growth is increasingly fueled by minorities,

So, more electric bass than banjo?


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What an electric bass might look like.
 
2014-04-06 09:18:26 PM  
  You huffpocrites can kiss my lily-white-yet-surprisingly-easy-to-tan Melungeon ass.
 
2014-04-06 09:18:40 PM  
Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding, was going thru one of the towns and one of the tie down rings on my ATV trailer broke and the tie down strap was dangling... One of the ATVs could have slid off the back.

Thankfully I hit a couple red lights and I heard shouting further back but didn't think much of it.  All of a sudden the guy behind me gets out of his truck and walks up next to my door and sais "Sir, your ATV straps are broken".

I pulled over a block ahead where there was room and he saved me from a big mess.

Sure there are crappy people everywhere but I felt the people that I met there were genuinely nice and if you treat them with respect they will treat you with respect.
 
2014-04-06 09:22:32 PM  

UsikFark: Notabunny: fta The region's population growth is increasingly fueled by minorities,

So, more electric bass than banjo?

What an electric bass might look like.


I hate those.

And now I hate you.
 
2014-04-06 09:24:45 PM  
ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.
 
2014-04-06 09:25:57 PM  

linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding


Hatfield McCoy trails?
 
2014-04-06 09:27:00 PM  

Ambivalence: Yah but who's going to drive all that way to see gun toting militas, zombie apocolypse preppers, and incest cults?


People who dont have time to travel to idaho?
 
2014-04-06 09:27:37 PM  

linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding, was going thru one of the towns and one of the tie down rings on my ATV trailer broke and the tie down strap was dangling... One of the ATVs could have slid off the back.

Thankfully I hit a couple red lights and I heard shouting further back but didn't think much of it.  All of a sudden the guy behind me gets out of his truck and walks up next to my door and sais "Sir, your ATV straps are broken".

I pulled over a block ahead where there was room and he saved me from a big mess.

Sure there are crappy people everywhere but I felt the people that I met there were genuinely nice and if you treat them with respect they will treat you with respect.


Whoa! A suprise breath of fresh air, with dandelion fluffies whirling in the breeze!!
 
2014-04-06 09:28:45 PM  
1964:
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source: Life magazine

2014:
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source: [x]
 
2014-04-06 09:29:08 PM  

hardinparamedic: Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.

And Oxycontin!


And lots of rusty old refrigerators and washing machines with little skeletons inside them.
 
2014-04-06 09:29:29 PM  

discgolfguru: Hatfield McCoy trails?


Not on that particular trip, we were near Clarksburg.  Always a blast when I am able to get down to WV.
 
2014-04-06 09:29:45 PM  

Seraphym: Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.

Then you go on a multi-day backpack trip off the Trail and get to meet the real characters.


s30.postimg.org
Like this guy?
 
2014-04-06 09:30:31 PM  

TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.


i18.photobucket.com
Lighten up, Francis.
You'll get over it.
 
2014-04-06 09:31:54 PM  
Of course there's more to Appalachia than that.  A little more.
 
2014-04-06 09:32:10 PM  
Appalachia's got some badass whitewater.

/beater
 
2014-04-06 09:34:40 PM  

penthesilea: 1964:
[img.fark.net image 850x626]
source: Life magazine

2014:
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source: [x]


They got color?
 
2014-04-06 09:35:59 PM  

KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.


The founder of this site is some sort of drunk white Replublican so it's all pretty tongue in cheek.
 
2014-04-06 09:36:47 PM  

lindalouwho: UsikFark: Notabunny: fta The region's population growth is increasingly fueled by minorities,

So, more electric bass than banjo?

What an electric bass might look like.

I hate those.

And now I hate you.


Why do you hate them? Did one bite your finger?
 
2014-04-06 09:38:47 PM  
 
2014-04-06 09:38:48 PM  

UsikFark: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

The founder of this site is some sort of drunk white Replublican so it's all pretty tongue in cheek.


Only until he runs out of alcohol, then he'll stop being drunk or republican (at least during the hangover).
 
2014-04-06 09:41:07 PM  

KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.


Not really. We're just making fun of a group of people who are primarily known for making jokes about gays, blacks, and other groups. It's internally consistent.
 
2014-04-06 09:43:16 PM  

KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.


I don't mean to be argumentative, but I spend more time than I should around here - and it looks to me like one can say just about anything one wants to say about anybody, here. I see people making jokes and slurs about the groups of people you mentioned every day, here.
 
2014-04-06 09:44:15 PM  
I'm sure I could not cherry pick pictures of New York, Chicago, or Boston and make if look like a hell hole.
 
2014-04-06 09:44:32 PM  

linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding, was going thru one of the towns and one of the tie down rings on my ATV trailer broke and the tie down strap was dangling... One of the ATVs could have slid off the back.

Thankfully I hit a couple red lights and I heard shouting further back but didn't think much of it.  All of a sudden the guy behind me gets out of his truck and walks up next to my door and sais "Sir, your ATV straps are broken".

I pulled over a block ahead where there was room and he saved me from a big mess.

Sure there are crappy people everywhere but I felt the people that I met there were genuinely nice and if you treat them with respect they will treat you with respect.


I was in WV this weekend, and most people were nice, but on lady was pretty mean to me. I suspect it was because I couldn't visit her Saturday like I told her I would. But, you know how moms are..
 
2014-04-06 09:45:00 PM  
I bet Walmart thrives in them thar hills.
 
2014-04-06 09:46:41 PM  

UsikFark: penthesilea: 1964:
[img.fark.net image 850x626]
source: Life magazine

2014:
[img.fark.net image 850x553]
source: [x]

They got color?


Hispanics too, according to the article.
 
2014-04-06 09:47:25 PM  

fusillade762: "poverty porn"

[deathandtaxesmag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com image 620x349]


paulseta: Yes, there's also the cave-dwelling mutant human-flesh eaters.

CHUDs?


That's New Yawk.
 
2014-04-06 09:48:29 PM  

KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.


Sure, but they have *facts* to back up and justify their hate, contempt, and sterotypes of an entire group of people. So, it's totally ok. You'd understand that if you weren't an inbred hillbilly.
 
2014-04-06 09:51:45 PM  
Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.
 
2014-04-06 09:59:23 PM  

UsikFark: lindalouwho: UsikFark: Notabunny: fta The region's population growth is increasingly fueled by minorities,

So, more electric bass than banjo?

What an electric bass might look like.

I hate those.

And now I hate you.

Why do you hate them? Did one bite your finger?


Living by rivers and camping and lakes - everyone fished. The first one bought was silly for a while, then suddenly ALL the guys had them and it never got old for them. They would all take theirs to a bar some nights, howling with laughter at the scenerios and imaginings. These guys were in their 30s n 40s. A primative precurser to cosplay perhaps. But they weren't funny to the girls with the hilairity only they understood and were addicted to for a good 18 months. They really enjoyed themselves, wish they had gone off in the woods tho. There was, for the women, a total loss of an environment that compels the joy of gripping, total lust. The first time my guy snuck up on my boob with that thing during sexy time I was amazed that I knocked him right outta bed. didn't injure him lol but had nothing for that hurt look.
Grrrrrrrrr.

Ironically, I'm a Pisces.
 
2014-04-06 10:00:10 PM  

UsikFark: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

The founder of this site is some sort of drunk white Replublican so it's all pretty tongue in cheek.


Hahahahahahahhahahahaahaaaaa.
 
2014-04-06 10:01:15 PM  

UsikFark: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

The founder of this site is some sort of drunk white Replublican so it's all pretty tongue in cheek.


"it's all pretty tounge in cheek" sounds a lot like "you should learn to take a joke". And I've heard that to appologize for more racists a bigoted remarks than I care to think about.
 
2014-04-06 10:02:48 PM  

KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.


You know, being roasted is actually an honor. Mocking people isn't the same as hating them.  And being able to have a sense of humor about yourself is actually a fine trait.
 
2014-04-06 10:05:05 PM  
West Virginia is has vast untapped economic potential that will stay untapped because of incompetent (or sometimes crooked) politicians from the local level up, unions, and nepotism. The brain drain and talent drain from the state is a lot more than you might believe. Tennessee and Virginia are basically three or four different states within one border.
 
2014-04-06 10:06:28 PM  

Ambivalence: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

You know, being roasted is actually an honor. Mocking people isn't the same as hating them.  And being able to have a sense of humor about yourself is actually a fine trait.


Roasting implies that you have respect. The commentors in this thread are not showing respect. These comments are filled with spite and bigotry. "It's all just a joke" is a weak apology for ignorant prejudice.
 
2014-04-06 10:10:02 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.


I farking love ramps
 
2014-04-06 10:11:24 PM  

ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps


They are 3-4" tall in Greenbrier county right now.. Just perfect.
 
2014-04-06 10:11:29 PM  

Ambivalence: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

You know, being roasted is actually an honor. Mocking people isn't the same as hating them.  And being able to have a sense of humor about yourself is actually a fine trait.


Hear, hear!

KidneyStone(ouch) if I may, id like to suggest that you move on after the first sentence when you see such things, because there are mostly good, funny, insanely intellegent people on all subjects who visit here. Absorb and converse and learn and laugh with them. Even just a couple black-souled people can steal your joy and seem like the majority. If you let them. Doesn't hurt to notice that still exists, does hurt to give them value.
 
2014-04-06 10:17:15 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Roasting implies that you have respect. The commentors in this thread are not showing respect. These comments are filled with spite and bigotry. "It's all just a joke" is a weak apology for ignorant prejudice.


I can only speak for myself, and I have a great deal of respect for most everyone.

*smooch*
 
2014-04-06 10:18:18 PM  

Lucky LaRue: ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps

They are 3-4" tall in Greenbrier county right now.. Just perfect.


Yep, just waiting for someone to get them. *homer drool*
To bad I'm in the desert this year. I miss the mountain in Oregon, mushrooms, ramps, and other edibles should be coming soon.
 
2014-04-06 10:19:03 PM  

99.998er: I bet Walmart thrives in them thar hills.


Not really. Mountaintop removal is expensive and those stores need a lot of space.
 
2014-04-06 10:21:51 PM  

ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps

They are 3-4" tall in Greenbrier county right now.. Just perfect.

Yep, just waiting for someone to get them. *homer drool*
To bad I'm in the desert this year. I miss the mountain in Oregon, mushrooms, ramps, and other edibles should be coming soon.


When I was a kid, I'd eat raw ramps that I picked on my way to the school bus.  By the time I finished a sweaty recess, I'd be invited to leave school for the rest of the day.  I kind of regret I can't do that at work.. :)
 
2014-04-06 10:22:26 PM  
As a West Coast transplant to the ATL, I can honestly say the Southern states and by extension Appalachia can't really be explained unless you live here for a bit. Even after several years residence, I am still winging it.
 
2014-04-06 10:27:44 PM  

Bizarro: As a West Coast transplant to the ATL, I can honestly say the Southern states and by extension Appalachia can't really be explained unless you live here for a bit. Even after several years residence, I am still winging it.


I was raised in Appalachia (West Virgina) for 20 years and I've spent 22 years in the south (South Carolina).  There is a world of difference between the two cultures - trying to compare them is (I imagine) like comparing the peoples of New York and Chicago.  That isn't to say Georgia doesn't have a little bit of Appalachia, but you aren't going to find it in Atlanta.
 
2014-04-06 10:30:29 PM  
Don't forget the incest.

img2-2.timeinc.net
 
2014-04-06 10:31:44 PM  

TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.


A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.
 
2014-04-06 10:34:23 PM  
I sense a good bit of Ginseng-jealousy in this thread.

Life without smartphones or phones or smarts ...might just be better than this citified existence that demands wifi and 6$ coffee on every street corner.
 
2014-04-06 10:36:31 PM  
Squeal like a pig should be added to tourism brochures.
 
2014-04-06 10:38:54 PM  
Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.
 
2014-04-06 10:39:04 PM  
Hey Appalachia
When the later outweighs the former, you may have something. Until Any of you smug westerners ever been to Happy Camp, California or traveled the Klamath River corridor from I-5 to Hoopa? YeeHaw!

then, dear dare to dream.

I have. Many times. Your point is obvious and well taken.
The scary part is that it pales to many parts of  Appalachia.
 
2014-04-06 10:40:52 PM  

itsaidwhat: I sense a good bit of Ginseng-jealousy in this thread.

Life without smartphones or phones or smarts ...might just be better than this citified existence that demands wifi and 6$ coffee on every street corner.


Even though the season starts in September (October?), my grandpa would take me out with him nearly every weekend starting around July/August to dig ginseng.  I used to love tramping around the hills with him because he'd let me carry the yellow dynamite bag that he brought home from the mines and would hold our lunch of bunny bread, vienna sausages, and potted meat (and a thermos of coffee, of course).  I never payed enough attention to become a "real" ginsenger, but damn that was good times.
 
2014-04-06 10:43:11 PM  
We also have coal!  And slate!  And COAL!  CLEAN COAL!
 
2014-04-06 10:43:37 PM  

99.998er: I bet Walmart thrives in them thar hills.


It's mostly Dollar General in the smaller towns. Really sad that they can't support locally-owned businesses, plus I learned that most of those dollar-type chains are owned by greedy fascists like Art Pope.
 
2014-04-06 10:44:56 PM  

kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.


That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.
 
2014-04-06 10:45:30 PM  

Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.


Over in 1.
 
2014-04-06 10:50:11 PM  

Bizarro: As a West Coast transplant to the ATL, I can honestly say the Southern states and by extension Appalachia can't really be explained unless you live here for a bit. Even after several years residence, I am still winging it.


Although I agree with the southern states part, I hardly think Atlanta falls into Appalachia type at all. I am betting you live well outside the perimeter.
 
2014-04-06 10:50:26 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.

Too bad you can't teach everyone your unique style of tolerance. Imagine how much better their lives could be if Appalachians learned from you how not to treat others with prejudice and bigotry.


I grew up in Crossville, Tennessee.

I know I'm not wrong.
 
2014-04-06 10:52:10 PM  
It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.
 
2014-04-06 10:56:44 PM  

Cpl.D: We also have coal!  And slate!  And COAL!  CLEAN COAL!


Replace clean coal with flying cars and the odds don't change. Both would require billions in new research and production.
 
2014-04-06 10:57:08 PM  

Calmamity: Lucky LaRue: Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.

Too bad you can't teach everyone your unique style of tolerance. Imagine how much better their lives could be if Appalachians learned from you how not to treat others with prejudice and bigotry.

I grew up in Crossville, Tennessee.

I know I'm not wrong.


I grew up in Rainelle, West Virginia.  I've known a lot of people who fit the hillbilly stereotype.  I also know a lot of people that grew up in the hills who embrace and amplify the negative stereotypes about their friends and families in hopes they won't be tarred by the brush of prejudice when it passes their way.  Most of the people in Appalachia, though, are indistinguishable from anyone else in America - except, of course, for the sexy, awe-inspiring accent.
 
2014-04-06 11:01:09 PM  

DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.


That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.
 
2014-04-06 11:02:54 PM  

discgolfguru: linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding

Hatfield McCoy trails?


Those families are Kentucky hills.
 
2014-04-06 11:05:05 PM  

discgolfguru: linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding

Hatfield McCoy trails?


The Hatfield and McCoy trails are for the whimps afraid of being yelled at for trespassing on Plum Creek and Westvaco land lease roads.. ;)
 
2014-04-06 11:06:08 PM  

Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.


I would have thought that hillbillies had thicker skin. With having no shoes and all...
 
2014-04-06 11:07:27 PM  

Calmamity: Lucky LaRue: Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.

Too bad you can't teach everyone your unique style of tolerance. Imagine how much better their lives could be if Appalachians learned from you how not to treat others with prejudice and bigotry.

I grew up in Crossville, Tennessee.

I know I'm not wrong.


My family's been in Bledsoe and Cumberland since the 1830s. It's pretty sad how poor the area is.
 
2014-04-06 11:07:52 PM  

DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.


If that offended you, how do you manage to stay on fark? The anti-semitism here is fairly extreme.

/not to mention perpetuated by the lefties
 
2014-04-06 11:07:57 PM  

kidakita: Any of you smug westerners ever been to Happy Camp, California or traveled the Klamath River corridor from I-5 to Hoopa? YeeHaw!


I used to go hunting with the old man at a place called Valsetz in Oregon. Yea, straight up overalls on porch with rocking chair and teeth optional towns along the way.

It's practically rain forest up there too. Rains 340 days a year up there or some such.

Goodnight Johnboy
 
2014-04-06 11:08:29 PM  

farkingismybusiness: Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.

I would have thought that hillbillies had thicker skin. With having no shoes and all...


hahaha.. tell me a joke about Asians and their driving skills, next!
 
2014-04-06 11:10:56 PM  

Lucky LaRue: farkingismybusiness: Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.

I would have thought that hillbillies had thicker skin. With having no shoes and all...

hahaha.. tell me a joke about Asians and their driving skills, next!


Why don't you make like an Asian woman driver and get lost.
 
2014-04-06 11:11:21 PM  

b0rg9: discgolfguru: linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding

Hatfield McCoy trails?

Those families are Kentucky hills.


Ugh, well didn't know that was an actual WV trail thing.
 
2014-04-06 11:12:13 PM  
Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.

That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.


I gotcha:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmmWc99YPdw
 
2014-04-06 11:21:39 PM  

Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.


Take heart that the true sociopaths do not discriminate.
 
2014-04-06 11:22:25 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Bizarro: As a West Coast transplant to the ATL, I can honestly say the Southern states and by extension Appalachia can't really be explained unless you live here for a bit. Even after several years residence, I am still winging it.

I was raised in Appalachia (West Virgina) for 20 years and I've spent 22 years in the south (South Carolina).  There is a world of difference between the two cultures - trying to compare them is (I imagine) like comparing the peoples of New York and Chicago.  That isn't to say Georgia doesn't have a little bit of Appalachia, but you aren't going to find it in Atlanta.


Agreed- I grew up in Appalachia- VA and spend a good bit of time in Charlotte and coastal SC. They are all very different.

I moved to MN 15 years ago. I love it here, I miss the mountains and Minnesotans are nice but mostly aliens
 
2014-04-06 11:23:53 PM  

KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.


Fark has and always will also make fun of California and NYC. Get over yourself. You can defend your state without whining. The only places I've lived in are Texas and California, join the club, this site is based on haters.
 
2014-04-06 11:24:09 PM  

UsikFark: Cpl.D: We also have coal!  And slate!  And COAL!  CLEAN COAL!

Replace clean coal with flying cars and the odds don't change. Both would require billions in new research and production.


I know hehe.  I was Poe-ing my own people.
 
2014-04-06 11:27:51 PM  

TheJoe03: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

Fark has and always will also make fun of California and NYC. Get over yourself. You can defend your state without whining. The only places I've lived in are Texas and California, join the club, this site is based on haters.


You can hate on the south, NYC, lots ethnic/ linguistic groups but only one state has its own fark tag.

/and I avoid going there as much as possible
 
2014-04-06 11:28:45 PM  

Cpl.D: UsikFark: Cpl.D: We also have coal!  And slate!  And COAL!  CLEAN COAL!

Replace clean coal with flying cars and the odds don't change. Both would require billions in new research and production.

I know hehe.  I was Poe-ing my own people.


I can dig it.
 
2014-04-06 11:31:21 PM  
In some parts of Appalachia there's Sheetz.

www.yeahhedid.com

Mmmm, delicious gas station food. And twenty different kinds of wintergreen snuff!
 
2014-04-06 11:32:56 PM  

Carousel Beast: DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.

If that offended you, how do you manage to stay on fark? The anti-semitism here is fairly extreme.

/not to mention perpetuated by the lefties


As someone living in Jewville 2.0 (AKA south Florida) I can honestly ask...you think FARK is anti-semetic?


..

...

....

REALLY?
 
2014-04-06 11:38:16 PM  

b0rg9: discgolfguru: linemanbear: Was in West Virginia with some buddies on my way to ATV riding

Hatfield McCoy trails?

Those families are Kentucky hills.


Devil Ants frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2014-04-06 11:38:54 PM  
Oh, lawd. Did I really do that?

Anse.
 
2014-04-06 11:40:06 PM  

DoctorCal: Oh, lawd. Did I really do that?

Anse.


I thought that was the joke.
 
2014-04-06 11:50:05 PM  

Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.


I'm from the ass backward part of Southwestern New York that makes up the northern tip of Appalachia, and I will slander the shiat out of it.  The smart people got the hell out of Dodge soon after graduation.  The really smart people stayed gone.  There are some of the worst anti-intellectual, God bothering, racist assholes I have ever come across in my home county.  The small cities out that way are also mini Rust Belt implosions, so it's the best of both hellholes.  The only bright spots is that the state education system in New York gives people the possibility of a way out, and it isn't western Pennsylvania.  You also get taxed to the back teeth for those minor privileges.  It is indeed pretty territory, but the disadvantages sorely outweigh the benefits.
 
2014-04-06 11:56:49 PM  

wellreadneck: DoctorCal: Oh, lawd. Did I really do that?

Anse.

I thought that was the joke.


Nope. Just a brain fart to what I thought the name was when I was a little kid.
 
2014-04-07 12:11:25 AM  

TheJoe03: Fark has and always will also make fun of California and NYC.


And Utah.  Don't forget Utah.
 
2014-04-07 12:20:30 AM  

DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.


I was in Roanoke, VA for a business trip in February. Drove down from DC. It was like entering a different world.
 
2014-04-07 12:23:43 AM  

discgolfguru: doosh: I dated my sister for a while but I'm from Nitro, West by God Virginia so suck it all y'alls!

Nitro isn't bad. Smells funny, but not bad. Boone County here. Yeehaw and all that.


Spent the last three years with The BCAA scraping your neighbors off the roadways before I left the biz.  I have people there lol :)
 
2014-04-07 12:30:51 AM  

lindalouwho: There was, for the women, a total loss of an environment that compels the joy of gripping, total lust.


I'm here to help
 
2014-04-07 12:30:51 AM  
Duke Energy has to have a lot of expendable people to mine it's coal..And that's what Appalachia is. It's a people just educated enough to work in coal mines and breed more miners.That's just the
way they have kept it.
 
2014-04-07 12:33:49 AM  

Lucky LaRue: ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps

They are 3-4" tall in Greenbrier county right now.. Just perfect.


Can you grow those at sea level at a low latitutde, or do they require a frost?  Sound like some of the Asian garlicky greens here in SoCal in some Chinese or Korean supermarkets.
 
2014-04-07 12:43:51 AM  

Calmamity: Lucky LaRue: Calmamity: Yeah! You forgot about the meth-heads and the huge percentage of citizens who are morbidly obese!

And the racism.

Too bad you can't teach everyone your unique style of tolerance. Imagine how much better their lives could be if Appalachians learned from you how not to treat others with prejudice and bigotry.

I grew up in Crossville, Tennessee.

I know I'm not wrong.


Crossville doesn't seem too bad.  At least Fall Creek Falls SP and Virgin Falls Pocket Wilderness are nearby.
 
2014-04-07 12:47:25 AM  

Lucky LaRue: UsikFark: KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.

The founder of this site is some sort of drunk white Replublican so it's all pretty tongue in cheek.

"it's all pretty tounge in cheek" sounds a lot like "you should learn to take a joke". And I've heard that to appologize for more racists a bigoted remarks than I care to think about.


If you can take a dick in the ass you can take a joke?

/balance is restored.
//you're welcome.
///threes
 
2014-04-07 01:00:04 AM  
Welcome to London,Ky. Here's your complimentary meth pipe,straw to snort pills and a few needles to shoot up with. Just throw them anywhere,no one gives a shiat.
/Lived in southeast Ky my entire life and this place is farked up.
 
2014-04-07 01:16:12 AM  

TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.


I resent that; I am a pretentious elitist who has been there, several times in fact. Makes you realize Deliverance left the worst stuff -out- of the movie actually.

/One of my co-workers escaped from his upbringing there. Not only the first person in his family to go to college, in his estimation more like the first one in his family to leave the trees and walk fully upright. Showed me a picture of a family reunion once; dozens of guys in either no shirt or a wifebeater, only two with shirts with sleeves. Those were the two that -weren't - felons apparently. He showed me which one had recently stabbed another one at a third ones parole party.
//They were the upstanding family in that set of hollows.
 
2014-04-07 01:23:25 AM  
Meanwhile in WNC:

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-07 01:23:36 AM  
34-32.
 
2014-04-07 01:57:46 AM  
Meth, Moonshine and Marijuana.  Who says back-country livin' can't be lucrative?
 
2014-04-07 04:10:55 AM  

Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.

That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.


Okay, I just heard that a welfare mother living on Gottingen street was spotted coming out of an abortion clinic. Crime Stoppers paid her 50 bucks.
 
2014-04-07 04:28:10 AM  

kidakita: Any of you smug westerners ever been to Happy Camp, California or traveled the Klamath River corridor from I-5 to Hoopa? YeeHaw!


Oh yeah! The Klamath Falls area to Umpqua is as backwoods as it gets!
 
2014-04-07 04:29:21 AM  

Theory Of Null: Squeal like a pig should be added to tourism brochures.


For all his other accomplishments actor Ned Beatty will forever be remembered as "that guy in Deliverance who got ass raped." :(

www.riprenfield.com
 
2014-04-07 04:35:53 AM  

BlueJay206: Meth, Moonshine and Marijuana.  Who says back-country livin' can't be lucrative?



Meth is more of a west coast problem.  Loved all the hiking and snow skiing as a kid in WV.  We used to call the poor kids creekers on account of them not making it in to school on days when there was a particularly hard rain.  I remember hiking to the bottom of the New River Gorge Bridge to watch the base jumpers every year.
i1173.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-07 04:42:19 AM  

bbcard1: West Virginia is has vast untapped economic potential that will stay untapped because of incompetent (or sometimes crooked) politicians from the local level up, unionbusters, and nepotism. The brain drain and talent drain from the state is a lot more than you might believe. Tennessee and Virginia are basically three or four different states within one border.


FTFY.
 
2014-04-07 04:56:39 AM  

discgolfguru: doosh: I dated my sister for a while but I'm from Nitro, West by God Virginia so suck it all y'alls!

Nitro isn't bad. Smells funny, but not bad. Boone County here. Yeehaw and all that.


Pocatalico, represent!

But I was born near Syracuse, NY...
 
2014-04-07 05:34:47 AM  

cynicalbastard: Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.


Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.


That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.


Okay, I just heard that a welfare mother living on Gottingen street was spotted coming out of an abortion clinic. Crime Stoppers paid her 50 bucks.


That stereotype applies to any race. Coward.

Lucky LaRue: farkingismybusiness: Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.


That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.


I would have thought that hillbillies had thicker skin. With having no shoes and all...


hahaha.. tell me a joke about Asians and their driving skills, next!


Nah. Cowards in here will only bash crackas. I think it makes them feel like they're washing away their sins.

"Affrilachia" Never heard that before. Actually rolls of the tongue nicely.
 
2014-04-07 05:55:58 AM  
Racism never even occurred to me when I was growing up in WV.  Of course the state is like 95 percent white and It's hard to hate someone you've never met.  But they were quite proud of the fact that WV split from Virginia during the civil war because they were against slavery.  There was even a provision in the state constitution that freed the slaves in the state.  But for some reason everyone thinks that the people there a racists.
 
2014-04-07 06:49:25 AM  

billwill: Meth is more of a west coast problem.


um, no.

just thought I might point out your handy chart tracks people -admitted for drug treatment-. not drug arrests, or drug use, but drug treatment programs.
what do you think the odds are that places like texas even -have- drug treatment programs. not bloody likely. since they cut out even the popular programs with public funding, i can't believe they would be funding those types of rehab programs.
california on the other hand, that i could see.

/think the chart has more to do with who is and isn't funding public health programs, not where the meth is. which is in the south, btw.
 
2014-04-07 06:51:14 AM  
the woods and slurry ponds.
 
2014-04-07 07:17:30 AM  

Ivan the Tolerable: billwill: Meth is more of a west coast problem.

um, no.

just thought I might point out your handy chart tracks people -admitted for drug treatment-. not drug arrests, or drug use, but drug treatment programs.
what do you think the odds are that places like texas even -have- drug treatment programs. not bloody likely. since they cut out even the popular programs with public funding, i can't believe they would be funding those types of rehab programs.
california on the other hand, that i could see.

/think the chart has more to do with who is and isn't funding public health programs, not where the meth is. which is in the south, btw.


Indiana has more clandestine meth labs than any other state
 
2014-04-07 07:19:55 AM  

Carousel Beast: DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.

If that offended you, how do you manage to stay on fark? The anti-semitism here is fairly extreme.

/not to mention perpetuated by the lefties


Noticing that the Israelis treat Palestinians extremely poorly doesn't make you an anti-Semite or a leftie.

It just means you noticed Israelis are hypocritical.
 
2014-04-07 07:40:24 AM  

Bonzo_1116: Lucky LaRue: ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps

They are 3-4" tall in Greenbrier county right now.. Just perfect.

Can you grow those at sea level at a low latitutde, or do they require a frost?  Sound like some of the Asian garlicky greens here in SoCal in some Chinese or Korean supermarkets.


I've never heard of anyone growing ramps as a crop (probably because they are only tasty when they are young - 2 maybe 3 weeks after they first appear), but since they start coming up around the time the snow is coming off the ground, I would suspect they need some cold weather.  My wife (Chinese) has used ramps as a substitute for chives.  Sometimes successfully, but also with some notable disasters (eg:  Pork and chive dumplings are delicious.  Pork and ramp dumplings taste like ass).
 
2014-04-07 07:58:22 AM  

DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.


I reeeealy hate to point out that Roanoke =/= Appalachia.
 
2014-04-07 07:58:45 AM  

2wolves: I grew up in Appalachia.  Too many were too stubborn to ever leave or recognize the grinding poverty which was a day to day fact of life.


I grew up there too. There are too many there who would rather hang around there and be "characters" around town . Also making the gubermint pay welfare benefits for beating them in the war is a bonus .
 
2014-04-07 08:16:18 AM  

ghare: Carousel Beast: DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.

If that offended you, how do you manage to stay on fark? The anti-semitism here is fairly extreme.

/not to mention perpetuated by the lefties

Noticing that the Israelis treat Palestinians extremely poorly doesn't make you an anti-Semite or a leftie.

It just means you noticed Israelis are hypocritical.


It's not problem if you can realize that Muslim nations treat Jews much worse. There are Jews from North Africa and the Middle East that lived there before the Arabs and Muslims took control that were violently forced out of their homelands into Israel in the first place. Sephardic Jews look at Muslims the same way Ashkanzi Jews view Germans. I say all this as someone who can't stand the right wing Israeli view on the whole situation.
 
2014-04-07 08:18:34 AM  

listernine: DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

I reeeealy hate to point out that Roanoke =/= Appalachia.


It's in the Appalachian Valley, Daniel Boone. Hence, it's part of Appalachia.
 
2014-04-07 08:20:25 AM  
I will bet that ya'll are pronouncing it wrong, too.  It's how we mark outsiders.
 
2014-04-07 08:27:40 AM  

TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.


I've been there, and no, it's not exaggerated.  It really IS THAT BAD.
 
2014-04-07 08:38:28 AM  
Not a regular fish, no.
A circuit-bent fish will open new vistas.
 
2014-04-07 08:48:34 AM  

KidneyStone: It's bad to say any jokes about gays, blacks and other groups but it's AOK to shiat of Southerners and Appalachian folks.

Fark is such a charicature of itself.


Hopefully this was a joke.

///Or you just held up the proverbial "Get a brain morans" poster. Either way......funny.
 
2014-04-07 08:54:17 AM  

ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps


What are these "ramps" of which you speak?
 
2014-04-07 08:54:41 AM  
As a kid, I remember this slice of Appalachia (thanks to Sesame Street):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj5OFij8OkE

I didn't recognize the poverty at the time; it's pretty clear now. Also a great slice-of-life.
 
2014-04-07 09:16:45 AM  

gfbabbitt: As a kid, I remember this slice of Appalachia (thanks to Sesame Street):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj5OFij8OkE

I didn't recognize the poverty at the time; it's pretty clear now. Also a great slice-of-life.


My grandfather's third wife rode a mule as one of these in her youth.
 
2014-04-07 09:27:07 AM  

DiffMavis: TerminalEchoes: ITT: Pretentious elitists who haven't actually been to Appalachia.

A lot of it is exaggerated, but...well, when I went there I heard some racist shiat. Including an old White Southern Baptist Preacher who unironically used the phrase "Jew you down" when describing penny pinchers. It's surreal.


Hey man, stereotypes are never true...except when they are...and the fact that they usually exist for a reason. But let's pretend that's not true because it makes everyone feel better.
 
2014-04-07 09:28:43 AM  

notatrollorami: ebenbane: Lucky LaRue: Hate all you want, but I ate a mess of ramps with some brown beans and fried taters this evening, so kiss my hillbilly ass, libs.

I farking love ramps

What are these "ramps" of which you speak?


It's a wild leek.  They are pretty common in the east, and a delicious first sign of Spring.
 
2014-04-07 09:31:02 AM  
ah, Appalachia, a region purposefully underserved by the various states and federal a government, (except for the type of services that just make things worse: please, for the love of god, stop giving welfare to the dimwitted breeders, and stop paying for everyones pain pills) and scorned in general by the public because, for some reason, its ok to make fun of 'hillbillies', while any treatment of any other group in a similar fashion  would be protested.
 
2014-04-07 09:45:17 AM  

itsaidwhat: I sense a good bit of Ginseng-jealousy in this thread.

Life without smartphones or phones or smarts ...might just be better than this citified existence that demands wifi and 6$ coffee on every street corner.


What a $6 coffee and wifi in a small Appalachian town might look like.

media-cdn.tripadvisor.com

As a part-time resident of Appalachia (Swain County, NC), I find the region fascinating.  Clearly there are still a lot of people who hate everything that isn't fat, white and Christian like themselves but there is also growing group of locals who see the non-exploitative potential the region has.  These people see what the outside world offers but they don't want to leave their homes, so they try to incorporate both worlds.  Places like Asheville have found their own voice and it has paid off for them.  Many other places in the region are doing the same.
 
2014-04-07 10:03:52 AM  

Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.

That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.


Which of these is not like the other...
 
2014-04-07 10:20:13 AM  

liam76: Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.

That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.

Which of these is not like the other...


Keep telling yourself that stereotyping is totally ok as long as you are making fun of a poor, underprivileged cultural group instead of a racial group if that is what it takes to make you sleep at night.
 
2014-04-07 10:25:17 AM  

Lucky LaRue: liam76: Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.

That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.

Which of these is not like the other...

Keep telling yourself that stereotyping is totally ok as long as you are making fun of a poor, underprivileged cultural group instead of a racial group if that is what it takes to make you sleep at night.


No, but it is ok if you are getting butt hurt over it.
 
2014-04-07 10:30:00 AM  

liam76: Lucky LaRue: liam76: Lucky LaRue: kling_klang_bed: Appalachia should come with a copy of 'Winter's Bone' in their tourism package.

Appalachia: Come For The Meth, Stay For The Meth.

That's pretty funny.  If you are taking requests, I'd like to hear a funny joke that stereotypes Italians or African-Americans, next.

Which of these is not like the other...

Keep telling yourself that stereotyping is totally ok as long as you are making fun of a poor, underprivileged cultural group instead of a racial group if that is what it takes to make you sleep at night.

No, but it is ok if you are getting butt hurt over it.


Well, alright then.  It's unfortunate you feel my offense justifies your hate and bigotry, but it's good to know what kind of person I am dealing with.
 
2014-04-07 10:33:28 AM  

Lucky LaRue: Well, alright then. It's unfortunate you feel my offense justifies your hate and bigotry, but it's good to know what kind of person I am dealing with


It isn't hate and bigotry, but you getting upset about it makes it that much more funny.


And to make it clear for you, nobody making thsoe jokes woudl refuse to hire, sit next to or otherwise discrimnaite against someone just for being from the Appalachia, in fact most wouldn;t even know it unless they advertised it.

But climb back up on your cross and continue to cry about ho w"libs" are filled with hate.
 
2014-04-07 10:50:54 AM  

DubyaHater: listernine: DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

I reeeealy hate to point out that Roanoke =/= Appalachia.

It's in the Appalachian Valley, Daniel Boone. Hence, it's part of Appalachia.


I reread your original post and realized I was, in fact, wrong. However, please dont equate me with someone who went around planting apple trees a long time ago. Good Day Sir.
 
2014-04-07 10:57:05 AM  

listernine: DubyaHater: listernine: DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

I reeeealy hate to point out that Roanoke =/= Appalachia.

It's in the Appalachian Valley, Daniel Boone. Hence, it's part of Appalachia.

I reread your original post and realized I was, in fact, wrong. However, please dont equate me with someone who went around planting apple trees a long time ago. Good Day Sir.


I reeeealy hate to point out that Daniel Boone =/= John Chapman (aka Johnny Appleseed)
 
2014-04-07 11:06:26 AM  

liam76: Lucky LaRue: Well, alright then. It's unfortunate you feel my offense justifies your hate and bigotry, but it's good to know what kind of person I am dealing with

It isn't hate and bigotry, but you getting upset about it makes it that much more funny.


And to make it clear for you, nobody making thsoe jokes woudl refuse to hire, sit next to or otherwise discrimnaite against someone just for being from the Appalachia, in fact most wouldn;t even know it unless they advertised it.

But climb back up on your cross and continue to cry about ho w"libs" are filled with hate.


Am I advertising it when I speak?
 Cinci has a law specifically banning discrimination against  those of Appalachian heritage.
 Discrimination happens to Appalachian people.
 
2014-04-07 11:08:14 AM  
I rarely Farky anybody, but I'm sorely tempted to do so in this thread simply to see how people complaining about the ease at which Appalachia is made fun of act in a Detroit thread.
 
2014-04-07 11:09:40 AM  

gfbabbitt: As a kid, I remember this slice of Appalachia (thanks to Sesame Street):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj5OFij8OkE

I didn't recognize the poverty at the time; it's pretty clear now. Also a great slice-of-life.


Had to watch it on mute, but that was pretty well done.
 
2014-04-07 11:19:11 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I rarely Farky anybody, but I'm sorely tempted to do so in this thread simply to see how people complaining about the ease at which Appalachia is made fun of act in a Detroit thread.


If you'tre lucky you'll find a thread complaining about how Dearbornistan is a bigoted nickname but Ypsitucky is not.
 
2014-04-07 11:28:14 AM  

wellreadneck: StreetlightInTheGhetto: I rarely Farky anybody, but I'm sorely tempted to do so in this thread simply to see how people complaining about the ease at which Appalachia is made fun of act in a Detroit thread.

If you'tre lucky you'll find a thread complaining about how Dearbornistan is a bigoted nickname but Ypsitucky is not.


See, the majority of folks I know who use Ypsitucky are actually from Ypsi and use it as a term of endearment.  As in another way Ypsi keeps it real while Ann Arbor is, um, not real.

I get why it bothers some people, but to me Taylortucky is offensive - I've never heard a person from Taylor actually use it - but Ypsitucky... eh.  I won't say it but I won't correct someone who does either.
 
2014-04-07 11:29:20 AM  

listernine: DubyaHater: listernine: DubyaHater: As someone who has lived in Roanoke, VA for the past 3 years, I can say that is the perfect description of Appalachian living.  I have never seen such a level of poverty, inbreeding, segregation (yes, it exists), and overt racism.  I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

I reeeealy hate to point out that Roanoke =/= Appalachia.

It's in the Appalachian Valley, Daniel Boone. Hence, it's part of Appalachia.

I reread your original post and realized I was, in fact, wrong. However, please dont equate me with someone who went around planting apple trees a long time ago. Good Day Sir.


Cherry trees. He planted, then chopped down, cherry trees. I think he had some mental issues.
 
2014-04-07 11:39:19 AM  

billwill: BlueJay206: Meth, Moonshine and Marijuana.  Who says back-country livin' can't be lucrative?


Meth is more of a west coast problem.  Loved all the hiking and snow skiing as a kid in WV.  We used to call the poor kids creekers on account of them not making it in to school on days when there was a particularly hard rain.  I remember hiking to the bottom of the New River Gorge Bridge to watch the base jumpers every year.
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Here's an article that disagrees with your statement that Meth is a west coast problem. Also has map charts.

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/america-ton ig ht-blog/2013/9/25/as-meth-incidentsdeclinemissourimaintainsdubioushono r.html

It's from that Muslim network though so it's probably all lies.
 
2014-04-07 12:12:34 PM  

liam76: Lucky LaRue: Well, alright then. It's unfortunate you feel my offense justifies your hate and bigotry, but it's good to know what kind of person I am dealing with

It isn't hate and bigotry, but you getting upset about it makes it that much more funny.


And to make it clear for you, nobody making thsoe jokes woudl refuse to hire, sit next to or otherwise discrimnaite against someone just for being from the Appalachia, in fact most wouldn;t even know it unless they advertised it.

But climb back up on your cross and continue to cry about ho w"libs" are filled with hate.

You know, where someone says prejudicial things, makes insults based oin stereotypes, bu then insists they aren't bigoted, and tries to pretend they don't judge a group with a distinct culture who are economically disadvantaged, and originate from a certain locale..it doesnt quite hold up.

I'm waiting for the "I have a friend who is from there, so I"m ok" defense.
 
2014-04-07 12:18:02 PM  

incrdbil: liam76: Lucky LaRue: Well, alright then. It's unfortunate you feel my offense justifies your hate and bigotry, but it's good to know what kind of person I am dealing with

It isn't hate and bigotry, but you getting upset about it makes it that much more funny.


And to make it clear for you, nobody making thsoe jokes woudl refuse to hire, sit next to or otherwise discrimnaite against someone just for being from the Appalachia, in fact most wouldn;t even know it unless they advertised it.

But climb back up on your cross and continue to cry about ho w"libs" are filled with hate.
You know, where someone says prejudicial things, makes insults based oin stereotypes, bu then insists they aren't bigoted, and tries to pretend they don't judge a group with a distinct culture who are economically disadvantaged, and originate from a certain locale..it doesnt quite hold up.

I'm waiting for the "I have a friend who is from there, so I"m ok" defense.


There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.

/Yeah baby!
 
2014-04-07 12:28:42 PM  

farkingismybusiness: Lucky LaRue: DoctorCal: It always bewilders me to see people with a documented track record of slandering minorities complain that they aren't "allowed" to slander minorities.

That's funny.. I was just being bewildered by the number of people in this thread who would never dream of slandering a minority (who would, in fact, jump to the defense of a slandered minority), but who are taking great pleasure in slandering hillbillies.

I would have thought that hillbillies had thicker skin. With having no shoes and all...


See, that was at least funny. +1 Troll point.
 
2014-04-07 12:38:18 PM  
Bashing "redneck" Whites is politically correct, but don't you dare point the short comings of any other group because that would be racist or bigoted depending on which group you speak accurately about. Farkers are one seriously brainwashed group on average. We all have been at one point, it is what the media and education have been instilling for decades in the citizenry, unfortunately most of you will never wake up, Farkers enjoy their ignorance.
 
2014-04-07 12:56:44 PM  

incrdbil: You know, where someone says prejudicial things


What, exactly, did I say that was prejudicial?


incrdbil: makes insults based oin stereotypes


Where did I insult somebody based on stereotypes?

incrdbil: a distinct culture who are economically disadvantaged


We are talking about a diverse region spanning 13 states, based on economic need. There isn't a disctinct unifying culture outside of rural poverty.
 
2014-04-07 12:58:58 PM  

Veni_Vidi_Vici: Bashing "redneck" Whites is politically correct


Didn't read the article did you?
 
2014-04-07 01:35:03 PM  
Well, they did give us the Foxfire Book series, and that's something.
 
2014-04-07 01:51:37 PM  
I had both the pain and pleasure of working very personally with folks along the border of Kentucky/West Virginia several years ago.  The job spanned about 5-6 years and extended from about Logan, WVa to Haysi, VA along the Tug Fork River.  I've almost literally knocked on every door, been in almost every living room, and talked to a vast majority of people living in that area.  Like most places, it really can't be pigeon-holed.  Some of the stereotypes bear out - seeing actual books in somebody's living room was a cause for comment among us (even teachers); the welfare mentality was awful; the poverty grinding, and the opportunities scarce.  To say I have pity for some of these folks sounds condescending, but man, some of the things I saw...

Having said all that, I'll also say this:  some of the nicest people you've ever met.  Salt of the Earth types.  Can't tell you how many times somebody would offer me a drink or a snack when they obviously couldn't afford it.  Was never made to feel unwelcome in somebody's home (or trailer).  The people that worked had three jobs.  The people that didn't sat around waiting for their check.  As for bigotry, the only thing I have to go on is the very dark complected, heavily-accented Indians I worked with down there were treated just as nice as my white ass.  Folks were gracious and accommodating.

Like everywhere, it's not accurate to boil it down to any one (or two, or three) things.  People are people and run the gamut everywhere.
 
2014-04-07 02:33:31 PM  

2wolves: I grew up in Appalachia.  Too many were too stubborn to ever leave or recognize the grinding poverty which was a day to day fact of life.


Does moving necesarely make you richer?
 
2014-04-07 03:04:11 PM  

Kid Shelleen: I had both the pain and pleasure of working very personally with folks along the border of Kentucky/West Virginia several years ago.  The job spanned about 5-6 years and extended from about Logan, WVa to Haysi, VA along the Tug Fork River.  I've almost literally knocked on every door, been in almost every living room, and talked to a vast majority of people living in that area.  Like most places, it really can't be pigeon-holed.  Some of the stereotypes bear out - seeing actual books in somebody's living room was a cause for comment among us (even teachers); the welfare mentality was awful; the poverty grinding, and the opportunities scarce.  To say I have pity for some of these folks sounds condescending, but man, some of the things I saw...

Having said all that, I'll also say this:  some of the nicest people you've ever met.  Salt of the Earth types.  Can't tell you how many times somebody would offer me a drink or a snack when they obviously couldn't afford it.  Was never made to feel unwelcome in somebody's home (or trailer).  The people that worked had three jobs.  The people that didn't sat around waiting for their check.  As for bigotry, the only thing I have to go on is the very dark complected, heavily-accented Indians I worked with down there were treated just as nice as my white ass.  Folks were gracious and accommodating.

Like everywhere, it's not accurate to boil it down to any one (or two, or three) things.  People are people and run the gamut everywhere.


Hmm.... 5-6 years is a bit long for Census work although that would fall right in the middle of 2010.  Don't know of any non-profits doing canvassing around there, long term anyway, though I could be wrong... dangit, now I'm curious.

Some of the best people I've ever met I met while knocking on doors in Dearborn during Ramadan or doing follow ups with houses that didn't return census forms in my hometown (so ~50% were first generation immigrants, some refugees... Poland, Vietnam, Bangladesh, Iraq, former Soviet block countries off the top of my head - the hospitality they offered me was amazing, even before I could break out my translation intro phrase sheet and find a kid or relative on the phone).

People are people indeed.

/so why is it you and I should get along so awfully, huh, Farkers?
 
2014-04-07 03:48:16 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Kid Shelleen: I had both the pain and pleasure of working very personally with folks along the border of Kentucky/West Virginia several years ago.  The job spanned about 5-6 years and extended from about Logan, WVa to Haysi, VA along the Tug Fork River.  I've almost literally knocked on every door, been in almost every living room, and talked to a vast majority of people living in that area.  Like most places, it really can't be pigeon-holed.  Some of the stereotypes bear out - seeing actual books in somebody's living room was a cause for comment among us (even teachers); the welfare mentality was awful; the poverty grinding, and the opportunities scarce.  To say I have pity for some of these folks sounds condescending, but man, some of the things I saw...

Having said all that, I'll also say this:  some of the nicest people you've ever met.  Salt of the Earth types.  Can't tell you how many times somebody would offer me a drink or a snack when they obviously couldn't afford it.  Was never made to feel unwelcome in somebody's home (or trailer).  The people that worked had three jobs.  The people that didn't sat around waiting for their check.  As for bigotry, the only thing I have to go on is the very dark complected, heavily-accented Indians I worked with down there were treated just as nice as my white ass.  Folks were gracious and accommodating.

Like everywhere, it's not accurate to boil it down to any one (or two, or three) things.  People are people and run the gamut everywhere.

Hmm.... 5-6 years is a bit long for Census work although that would fall right in the middle of 2010.  Don't know of any non-profits doing canvassing around there, long term anyway, though I could be wrong... dangit, now I'm curious.

Some of the best people I've ever met I met while knocking on doors in Dearborn during Ramadan or doing follow ups with houses that didn't return census forms in my hometown (so ~50% were first generation immigrants, some refugees... Poland, Vietnam, Ban ...


Not census, and spanned 5-6 years, not 5-6 years ago.  This was the 90's and I was with gummint (contractor), and I was there to help.

/There be good and bad about pretty much every place.
 
2014-04-07 05:25:50 PM  

spawn73: 2wolves: I grew up in Appalachia.  Too many were too stubborn to ever leave or recognize the grinding poverty which was a day to day fact of life.

Does moving necesarely make you richer?


Not necessarily.  It often does mean you're a touch brighter or unwilling to settle.
 
2014-04-07 05:37:04 PM  

gfbabbitt: As a kid, I remember this slice of Appalachia (thanks to Sesame Street):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj5OFij8OkE

I didn't recognize the poverty at the time; it's pretty clear now. Also a great slice-of-life.



I like to take sarcastic shots at just about anyone, but having post delivering as the highlight of your day is just depressing
 
2014-04-07 07:30:40 PM  
I grew up there and I completely agree.
 
2014-04-07 07:52:45 PM  

Notabunny: lindalouwho: There was, for the women, a total loss of an environment that compels the joy of gripping, total lust.

I'm here to help


Alas, only a bunny could help me.
;-)

/was a long time ago anyways
 
2014-04-07 08:05:20 PM  

buckler: Well, they did give us the Foxfire Book series, and that's something.


They also gave us Piedmont Blues. That type of guitar playing is extremely difficult, not many are accomplished at it.

On mobile, sorry no link.

/not a musician, knows some, knows the music
 
2014-04-07 10:03:07 PM  
FTA: "The region's population growth is increasingly fueled by minorities, who have composed almost half of Appalachia's new residents (42 percent) over the past three decades and helped fuel awareness about the heterogeneous reality of mountain towns."

Wait... People have been moving TO Appalachia for three decades and nobody's done anything to stop them? WTF?

/Picturing a Pythonesque phrasebook where "May I use the restroom?" translates to "I would like a bus ticket to Appalachia."
 
2014-04-07 10:51:19 PM  

2wolves: spawn73: 2wolves: I grew up in Appalachia.  Too many were too stubborn to ever leave or recognize the grinding poverty which was a day to day fact of life.

Does moving necesarely make you richer?

Not necessarily.  It often does mean you're a touch brighter or unwilling to settle.


If you can move even (make thumb to forefinger distance gesture) that far out of the area, you may hit some jobs.  It may not make you richer (because of standard of living adjustments), but it potentially gets you out of being dependent on government aid and the charity of neighbors *not strangers - that doesn't happen outside of a church* to survive.  If you have kids, it gives them that more of a chance to do better.  It's not necessarily a question of subjectively richer when you are king shiat of the the used tire pile, it's a matter of opportunities.

This really isn't a "get your bootstraps on and go crosscountry up to North Dakota to be a roughneck", more of "I can make more than minimum wage for the rest of my life while still being in the same state".  It doesn't mean running to a city either (there are precious few worth a damn in the region - the northern part is still Rust Belt), just going somewhere that has a Cummins Engine / Toyota plant can make a world of difference for example.  Even if you don't work there, there is the opportunity for secondary jobs near the facility.
 
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