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(Sun News Network)   Which Canadian super hero stands the best chance in a fight against Captain America?   (sunnewsnetwork.ca) divider line 112
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2014-04-06 03:50:37 PM
The article leaves out William Shatner.
 
2014-04-06 04:03:24 PM
My Wolverine regularly beats Cap A in that stupid Facebook avengers game.  So I guess this is settled science.

But outside of that, my money is on puck.  If there's one thing the most recent olympics taught us, is that America can't stop a puck.


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2014-04-06 04:33:34 PM
Well, there's Deadpool, Guardian, Puck, Wolverine, Diamond Lil, Nemesis, Sasquatch and Box, just to start with. True, most of them are associated with Alpha Flight, but Marvel does have a history with making a few Canuckistani heroes.

Puck and Wolverine and Deadpool would be the favorites for an onscreen tussle, because they AREN'T superamped powerhouses which means that you've got Puck who is only a little older than Cap, and Puck has the one liners down, as well as the whole acrobatic dwarf thing going, then you've got Logan just for funsies, and they've had their issues in the comics, and would make for some fun onscreen. Deadpool...well, because Wade Wilson and Cap have some history too, and it's a kooky relationship, at best.

Guardian, that's a more straight up, and less interesting fight, because Guardian is supposed to be the Canuckistani counterpart, but with more flying and power blasts. Sasquatch is a cheaper, fuzzier version of the Hulk, and while it might be fun to see Cap go toe to toe with Dr. Langkowski, for a few minutes, it's not exactly a fair fight. Cap has it in the tactics and strategy department, Sasquatch can fight the Hulk for fun.
 
2014-04-06 05:24:45 PM
Politely Condescending Man!
 
2014-04-06 06:38:40 PM
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2014-04-06 06:42:39 PM
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From parts unknown.
 
2014-04-06 06:47:12 PM
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2014-04-06 06:49:08 PM
Captain America's primary superpower is to always be on the correct side of any conflict in the eyes of the writer.

Nobody really has any chance against that one, not with how comics work.  If there were a DC crossover he'd probably even whup Superman somehow.
 
2014-04-06 06:52:06 PM
Rob Ford.
 
2014-04-06 06:55:54 PM
Never read the comics, so forgive my ignorance, but what's stronger: Captain America's shield, or Wolverine's claws?
 
2014-04-06 06:55:54 PM

French Canadians.

Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about Canadian villains.

 
2014-04-06 06:58:08 PM
Also, "Captain Canuck" sounds awesome.
 
2014-04-06 06:59:45 PM
Two words - Gordie F*cking Howe.
 
2014-04-06 07:00:19 PM
There's that one that can crush your head ...
 
2014-04-06 07:04:20 PM

Pimparoo: Never read the comics, so forgive my ignorance, but what's stronger: Captain America's shield, or Wolverine's claws?


been debated on the internet forever
 
2014-04-06 07:05:52 PM
www.comicbookreligion.com

Can Cap defeat a Great Beast?
 
2014-04-06 07:06:29 PM

dkendr: Rob Ford.


Super Hero. Rob Ford in drag is an already established Canadian super-villain...
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2014-04-06 07:07:00 PM

Pimparoo: Never read the comics, so forgive my ignorance, but what's stronger: Captain America's shield, or Wolverine's claws?


A few years ago, there was a Fark thread: "Can a lightsaber cut through admantium? Discuss."
I''m not even sure if it was linked to an article.
I don't use this word often- but it was EPIC.

(I would say Cap's shield could block the claws due to the vibranium)
 
2014-04-06 07:12:01 PM
Wasn't Cap's shield stronger?  I thought it was an Adamantium/Vibranium alloy that was stronger but never replicated.

Didn't he "downgrade" to an adamantium shield during that storyline when he got fired?

/my nerd cred and age on full display now
 
2014-04-06 07:12:40 PM
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Guys, it's not like this is up for debate. This has happened, multiple times.
 
2014-04-06 07:13:17 PM

Pimparoo: Never read the comics, so forgive my ignorance, but what's stronger: Captain America's shield, or Wolverine's claws?


Vibranium isn't "hard" or "strong", it actually violates physics by dispersing momentum.  Adamantium is just harder and stronger than any actual metal is.

So if the question is whether the claws could cut the shield, the answer is no.  The claws are "stronger" as such but "cutting" requires that the force of a swing be focused along the thin edge of the blade, where any force impinging on a completed vibranium widget is spread evenly across the object.

Basically, attempting to "cut" the shield would just push it around instead.

// Or, taking a step back from in-universe explanations, the shield can't be destroyed because it's necessary to maintaining the status quo of the CA comics whereas the claws aren't narratively necessary to the wolverine comics.
 
2014-04-06 07:14:55 PM
Princess Poutine.
 
2014-04-06 07:31:45 PM
In a straightforward fight, Wolverine absolutely beats Cap on paper.  Cap is peak human (or slightly better), and Wolverine is clearly super human.  In a story, Cap would probably pull it off based on some combination of leadership, bravery, and strategy.  In some sort of "reality" where both of them exist though?  What's Cap going to do to Wolverine?  Punch him a bunch of times?
 
2014-04-06 07:32:48 PM

Special J: dkendr: Rob Ford.

Super Hero. Rob Ford in drag is an already established Canadian super-villain...
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2014-04-06 07:36:21 PM
My idea about the shield is that since it is a vibranium and steel allow it went through a centrifugation process. With the steel being the denser of the two metals it was sent mostly to the edge of the shield, thus why it can bounce off of objects. This left most of the vibranium near the middle and why any force hitting the shield not on the edges gets absorbed by the higher concentration of vibranium.
 
2014-04-06 07:43:01 PM
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2014-04-06 07:43:43 PM

hubiestubert: because they AREN'T superamped powerhouses


It is my recollection that Puck was rewritten into being super humanly strong.  Apparently, for some reason, he was once about 7 feet tall but absorbed some arab magician into him and somehow became short.  I forget the exact reason why but I think he underwent gene therapy or something to become stronger.

Marvel's continuity can be pretty fluid.

Whatever.  Anyway, has no one considered Major Mapleleaf?

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updated to:

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2014-04-06 07:50:26 PM

Hoban Washburne: In a straightforward fight, Wolverine absolutely beats Cap on paper.  Cap is peak human (or slightly better), and Wolverine is clearly super human.  In a story, Cap would probably pull it off based on some combination of leadership, bravery, and strategy.  In some sort of "reality" where both of them exist though?  What's Cap going to do to Wolverine?  Punch him a bunch of times?


The "super" part of Wolverine is almost all defensive - adamantium skeleton and healing factor. Cap should have the advantage in speed, skill and probably strength in a fight.

The problem is that as many times as Cap would put Wolverine down Cap could never actually stop him. Wolverine would just keep on coming back for more and eventually get a claw past the shield.
 
2014-04-06 07:55:12 PM

Farking Canuck: The "super" part of Wolverine is almost all defensive - adamantium skeleton and healing factor. Cap should have the advantage in speed, skill and probably strength in a fight.


I don't know about that.  My understanding is that Wolverine is super strong, fast etc.  Not Hulk/Flash level strong and fast obviously, but moreso than peak human.
 
2014-04-06 07:58:52 PM

Farking Canuck: The problem is that as many times as Cap would put Wolverine down Cap could never actually stop him. Wolverine would just keep on coming back for more and eventually get a claw past the shield.


I know you're not really allowed to exploit obvious loopholes in comics... but wolverine isn't super-strong, theoretically it wouldn't be that difficult for any of the super-strength heroes to drop something heavy on him and, y'know... just leave it there, instead of following it up by trying to finish him or enact a maniacal plan to rule the world whatever.

Hell, the old mob standard with the cement shoes would pretty much be a permanent finisher for him, from the perspective of anyone mortal.
 
2014-04-06 08:00:29 PM
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Good lucky Cap America, Chris has Science!
 
2014-04-06 08:13:30 PM
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2014-04-06 08:16:06 PM
I don't know a Canadian Super heroes that can defeat Captain America but I know of a Canadian Super Villain that can destroy America:

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2014-04-06 08:16:56 PM
The first movie played up Cap's confusion based on being a man out of time.  Perhaps Wolverine could distract Cap by putting a bag of milk in front of him.  I grew up 10 minutes from the border and that still blows my mind.  Clobber him while he's trying to figure it out and then apologize. "Sorry, eh?"
 
2014-04-06 08:26:49 PM

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Yiff in Hell!
 
2014-04-06 08:31:44 PM

TV's Vinnie: Satanic_Hamster: [s3.amazonaws.com image 600x435]

Yiff in Hell!


Canadian furries, man.

And the one on the right is a crossdresser.
 
2014-04-06 08:36:06 PM
Everyone knows it's the Red Panda.
 
2014-04-06 08:36:18 PM
 
2014-04-06 08:39:18 PM

Jim_Callahan: Farking Canuck: The problem is that as many times as Cap would put Wolverine down Cap could never actually stop him. Wolverine would just keep on coming back for more and eventually get a claw past the shield.

I know you're not really allowed to exploit obvious loopholes in comics... but wolverine isn't super-strong, theoretically it wouldn't be that difficult for any of the super-strength heroes to drop something heavy on him and, y'know... just leave it there, instead of following it up by trying to finish him or enact a maniacal plan to rule the world whatever.

Hell, the old mob standard with the cement shoes would pretty much be a permanent finisher for him, from the perspective of anyone mortal.


Depends on what you define "Super-strong" as, sure he is no Hulk/Superman level but he is definitely several steps beyond even peak human.  As is nicely covered on wikipedia:

"Due to his healing factor's constant regenerative qualities, he can push his muscles beyond the limits of the human body without injury. This, coupled by the constant demand placed on his muscles by over one hundred pounds of adamantium, grants him some degree of superhuman strength. Since the presence of the adamantium negates the natural structural limits of his bones, he can lift or move weight that would otherwise damage a human skeleton. He has been depicted breaking steel chains, lifting several men above his head with one arm and throwing them through a wall, lifting Ursa Major (in grizzly bear form) over his head before tossing him across a room, and hauling a concert grand piano, which can weigh as much as 1,300 pounds, and the platform it rests on, via a harness, while climbing a sheer cliff."

Have to agree with the first statement, in a no-holds barred, to the death fight with both at peak abilities, Cap's tactical skills mean it is no curb stomp battle, but the almost indestructible, regenerating mutant who is not lacking in combat skills himself eventually is going to claw his way to victory.
 
2014-04-06 08:41:54 PM
Really?  Nobody?  What has the geek tab come to?

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2014-04-06 08:54:22 PM

AaronSynn: Really?  Nobody?  What has the geek tab come to?


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Why is Captain Hammer wearing that disguise?
 
2014-04-06 08:59:45 PM

Romanes Eunt Domus: AaronSynn: Really?  Nobody?  What has the geek tab come to?



Why is Captain Hammer wearing that disguise?


You can't spell "Hammer" without "eh".
 
2014-04-06 09:05:58 PM

Jim_Callahan: I know you're not really allowed to exploit obvious loopholes in comics... but wolverine isn't super-strong, theoretically it wouldn't be that difficult for any of the super-strength heroes to drop something heavy on him and, y'know... just leave it there, instead of following it up by trying to finish him or enact a maniacal plan to rule the world whatever.


A very large percentage of super-heroes and super-villians have completely normal, human-level survivability. Yet somehow they all make it through battles (give or take). That's comic books.

If the government really wanted to take out mutants they wouldn't need Sentinels ... snipers at 1000m would do for probably 80% of them.
 
2014-04-06 09:20:22 PM
Powdered toast man?
 
2014-04-06 09:21:46 PM
1. Cap's shield in the comics is an adamantium/vibranium combination. It is unique, as nobody ever figured out how to combine those two mythical metals again, and the secret died with the inventor of the process.

2. Wolverine in the comics doesn't have an advanced healing factor anymore.

3. Wolverine is barely Canadian anymore. He may have been born there and experimented on there, and he may have worked for the Canadian government, but like Dave Foley, he doesn't get back up to Canada as much as he used to.
 
2014-04-06 09:22:34 PM
Mr. Canoehead would trash Captain America.

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2014-04-06 09:23:02 PM

Nix Nightbird: 1. Cap's shield in the comics is an adamantium/vibranium combination. It is unique, as nobody ever figured out how to combine those two mythical metals again, and the secret died with the inventor of the process.

2. Wolverine in the comics doesn't have an advanced healing factor anymore.

3. Wolverine is barely Canadian anymore. He may have been born there and experimented on there, and he may have worked for the Canadian government, but like Dave Foley, he doesn't get back up to Canada as much as he used to.


Is it because of a ridiculous custody/divorce process?
 
2014-04-06 09:32:21 PM
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//they need to run it again
///obscure to some?
 
2014-04-06 09:42:00 PM
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2014-04-06 09:43:49 PM

Mantour: I don't know a Canadian Super heroes that can defeat Captain America but I know of a Canadian Super Villain that can destroy America:

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