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(The Union Leader)   79-year-old substitute teacher quits her job rather than delete all her Facebook friends   (unionleader.com) divider line 26
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2014-04-06 04:55:44 PM
3 votes:

Gary-L: There's nothing worse than a public school teacher with tenure



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THISTHISTHIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We ended up home-schooling because of an old out-of touch bat routinely belittled and harassed my child, and the principal couldn't do anything because of tenure.  (We didn't home-school for religious reasons, and he's in public high-school now, in NHS, an Eagle Scout, was on the baseball team, and doing just fine),

Our not-so CSB:
It was an early iteration of Common Core--AKA No Child Left Behind--that gave the biatch the idea to mock him for reading books above his grade level.  She called him out in class for "showing off", since he spoke with an elevated vocabulary, and laughed at him for reading Harry Potter books in fourth grade. We asked for meetings and she continually avoided us.  The principal did nothing to help--the old piece of shiat should have retired when Reagan left office.  When our other son was scheduled to have her the next year we pulled the plug.  When the principal called to see why we un-enrolled the kids, I told him because Mrs. Berry of Shady Lane Elementary School in Menomonee Falls was a horrid teacher.  He didn't put up any defense of her and said he hoped we would give the junior high a chance.  That's principal-speak for "I hear you, dude--please come back to the district when you can".
2014-04-06 04:42:01 PM
3 votes:
Fark Facebook.
2014-04-06 04:24:20 PM
3 votes:
Good for her! The students can still be her FB friends and continue to confide in her.
2014-04-06 04:31:51 PM
2 votes:
Please be advised that the school system's insurance carrier's risk assessment manager sets policy in these matters. School administrators' hands are tied.
2014-04-06 04:26:25 PM
2 votes:

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Somaticasual: Started to post in defense of the teacher, but there are some professional lines that really shouldn't be crossed in reality.

Yea it's the same reason you don't connect with your vendors on LinkedIn. Even if 95% of your connections are fine it's the one idiot who can't handle themselves professionally that makes it a nightmare.


LinkedIn is that site where people who get booted from their jobs every 6 months keep their resumes, right?
2014-04-06 04:23:26 PM
2 votes:

Somaticasual: Started to post in defense of the teacher, but there are some professional lines that really shouldn't be crossed in reality.


If the students had maintained private contact with her (say, through e-mail) I wonder if the schoolboard would have reacted the same way.

Was their true concern that the conversations were public?  If so, Why?

To this day I maintain cordial relationships with several past teachers, and occasionally their advice has been invaluable.

I really think the schoolboard over-reacted here.
2014-04-06 04:22:16 PM
2 votes:
Zero tolerance = zero intelligence.
No, I wouldn't want to go back there either.
Move on Ma'am, you can do better.
2014-04-06 04:21:15 PM
2 votes:
Typical asinine school/district policies, like back when I was a young boy and if someone acted up the lights went out and we all had to put our heads on our desks until everyone quietly complied.

There's nothing worse than a public school teacher with tenure or a school district administrator.  Each makes ridiculous rules and wonder why backlash occurs.  If any of them ever truly engaged his/her brain in through I best an anyeurism would erupt.
2014-04-06 04:13:52 PM
2 votes:
Started to post in defense of the teacher, but there are some professional lines that really shouldn't be crossed in reality.
2014-04-06 10:51:33 PM
1 votes:

shtychkn: fickenchucker: Gary-L: There's nothing worse than a public school teacher with tenure


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THISTHISTHIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We ended up home-schooling because of an old out-of touch bat routinely belittled and harassed my child, and the principal couldn't do anything because of tenure.  (We didn't home-school for religious reasons, and he's in public high-school now, in NHS, an Eagle Scout, was on the baseball team, and doing just fine),

Our not-so CSB:
It was an early iteration of Common Core--AKA No Child Left Behind--that gave the biatch the idea to mock him for reading books above his grade level.  She called him out in class for "showing off", since he spoke with an elevated vocabulary, and laughed at him for reading Harry Potter books in fourth grade. We asked for meetings and she continually avoided us.  The principal did nothing to help--the old piece of shiat should have retired when Reagan left office.  When our other son was scheduled to have her the next year we pulled the plug.  When the principal called to see why we un-enrolled the kids, I told him because Mrs. Berry of Shady Lane Elementary School in Menomonee Falls was a horrid teacher.  He didn't put up any defense of her and said he hoped we would give the junior high a chance.  That's principal-speak for "I hear you, dude--please come back to the district when you can".

Teacher tenure really doesn't exist outside of New York.

You do have to show cause. But that doesn't make it impossible to fire a teacher. They just have the basic protection all workers should have.



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2014-04-06 07:21:33 PM
1 votes:

Dadoody: Gyrfalcon: Dadoody:

Nobody did any of that, but thanks for playing.

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O.I.C.... it's post an irrelevant picture day... ok here goes:

bradwhitt.com

/nobody tells me about these damn holidays...
2014-04-06 06:40:23 PM
1 votes:

Dadoody:


Nobody did any of that, but thanks for playing.
2014-04-06 06:11:45 PM
1 votes:
Sounds like they have a policy that was put in place for a legitimate reason, are unwilling to make an exception for one person, and she accepted the consequences of her decision.

It's a non-story.
2014-04-06 06:10:15 PM
1 votes:

Vangor: Posting pictures of current students? Eh... no...


If I rtfa correctly, she wasn't posting their picyures; she required the student who sent her a friend request to have his/her picture up so she could verify who it was. The admin's concern was that someone among her thousands of FB friends might try to connect with one of the other thousands. Because in real life, people who know me personally would never have an opportunity to meet each other....
2014-04-06 06:05:38 PM
1 votes:
"In truth, being a caring, lovely woman doesn't give you immunity to ignore a school board policy that's designed to protect everyone make no farking difference whatsoever, but cover our a$$es legally,"
2014-04-06 05:24:13 PM
1 votes:

fickenchucker: Gary-L: There's nothing worse than a public school teacher with tenure


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THISTHISTHIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We ended up home-schooling because of an old out-of touch bat routinely belittled and harassed my child, and the principal couldn't do anything because of tenure.  (We didn't home-school for religious reasons, and he's in public high-school now, in NHS, an Eagle Scout, was on the baseball team, and doing just fine),

Our not-so CSB:
It was an early iteration of Common Core--AKA No Child Left Behind--that gave the biatch the idea to mock him for reading books above his grade level.  She called him out in class for "showing off", since he spoke with an elevated vocabulary, and laughed at him for reading Harry Potter books in fourth grade. We asked for meetings and she continually avoided us.  The principal did nothing to help--the old piece of shiat should have retired when Reagan left office.  When our other son was scheduled to have her the next year we pulled the plug.  When the principal called to see why we un-enrolled the kids, I told him because Mrs. Berry of Shady Lane Elementary School in Menomonee Falls was a horrid teacher.  He didn't put up any defense of her and said he hoped we would give the junior high a chance.  That's principal-speak for "I hear you, dude--please come back to the district when you can".


Teacher tenure really doesn't exist outside of New York.

You do have to show cause. But that doesn't make it impossible to fire a teacher. They just have the basic protection all workers should have.
2014-04-06 05:22:10 PM
1 votes:

strangeluck: Somaticasual: Started to post in defense of the teacher, but there are some professional lines that really shouldn't be crossed in reality.

I'd question if she crossed any professional lines. Yes you have to be careful to not do anything that may seem inappropriate with students, but at the same time, consider all the kids who have grown up to be good people because a teacher or mentor genuinely gave a damn, like this lady does.

There has to be a reasonable compromise somewhere.

red5ish: Please be advised that the school system's insurance carrier's risk assessment manager sets policy in these matters. School administrators' hands are tied.

It's still a bad policy, regardless of who set it.


The policy protects the school from liability.

Want less policies like this? Make schools no longer liable for employee behavior or student behavior.

Then they won't need zero tolerance policies to protect them from lawsuits.
2014-04-06 05:13:54 PM
1 votes:
Dammit lady, will you please stop caring? Paying more attention to these kids that you are compelled to by state minimum requirements makes both the other teachers and their apathetic parents look bad. Just process them and move on.
2014-04-06 05:04:05 PM
1 votes:
I was on the fence with this, then I RTFA.

Stupid. She's doing nothing wrong. She's 70, why not tell them to fark off?  She is teaching for all the RIGHT reasons. Good job losing a true asset to children in a school system that is likely full of shiat.

This lady was trying to be a mentor and found social media as a way of giving her own time to helping the youth that she dealt with on a daily basis. I am sure she will find another outlet.   Good for her, hope she has many years left.
2014-04-06 04:50:29 PM
1 votes:

Somaticasual: Started to post in defense of the teacher, but there are some professional lines that really shouldn't be crossed in reality.


I'd question if she crossed any professional lines. Yes you have to be careful to not do anything that may seem inappropriate with students, but at the same time, consider all the kids who have grown up to be good people because a teacher or mentor genuinely gave a damn, like this lady does.

There has to be a reasonable compromise somewhere.

red5ish: Please be advised that the school system's insurance carrier's risk assessment manager sets policy in these matters. School administrators' hands are tied.

It's still a bad policy, regardless of who set it.
2014-04-06 04:47:43 PM
1 votes:
I can respect someone who accepts the consequences of their actions. Good for her, despite the reasoning being iffy at best.

I understand you want to avoid inappropriate contact and that's great, but the world has changed since 1955 and fainting couches are harder to come by.
2014-04-06 04:44:47 PM
1 votes:
Facebook posting is more important than working at that school.    OK.

Strange choice, but hey whatever her deal is ....is up to her.   At 79,  who cares if she leaves.
2014-04-06 04:40:58 PM
1 votes:
Schools are little more than prisons for children. It's a giant industry with idiots at the helm. I thought it was bad when I was in school back in the 70s and 80s but it's truly a nightmare now.
2014-04-06 04:40:16 PM
1 votes:

oryx: While not certified to teach, she was given charge of classrooms. Sometimes, it was a technical or vocational class that she took over. Rules prevented her from teaching in the shop class, so she would teach what she called motivational subjects, stressing truth, character and honesty. She said she would also work the concepts when taking an academic class in which she was following a lesson plan.

A substitute teacher who wasn't allowed to teach? What's going on here?


She's basically a babysitter. The school can't cancel classes or let kids go early so they basically need an adult to sit and watch the class.
2014-04-06 04:34:40 PM
1 votes:
Good job, Mrs. T.

I respect someone who takes a stand and lives with the consequences.

I wonder what will happen when more and more part-time sub teachers do the same thing:  You want me to do what to an item that is entirely part of my personal life?  No thanks, find someone else.
2014-04-06 04:34:26 PM
1 votes:
While not certified to teach, she was given charge of classrooms. Sometimes, it was a technical or vocational class that she took over. Rules prevented her from teaching in the shop class, so she would teach what she called motivational subjects, stressing truth, character and honesty. She said she would also work the concepts when taking an academic class in which she was following a lesson plan.

A substitute teacher who wasn't allowed to teach? What's going on here?
 
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