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(The New York Times)   Body language can be tricky for the untrained observer to read, despite the widespread belief that it's easy to tell when someone's lying. Are you sure you could spot a liar without knowing if they were elected to Congress or not?   (nytimes.com) divider line 43
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2014-04-06 10:56:32 AM
I was wrong on every female and correct on every male.

So it goes.
 
2014-04-06 01:13:47 PM

2wolves: I was wrong on every female and correct on every male.

So it goes.


Even when they're telling the truth, they're lying.
 
2014-04-06 02:08:41 PM
To say nothing of pathological liars.
 
2014-04-06 02:11:02 PM
Telling the truth can be dangerous business.

If you admit that you play the accordion,
no one will hire you in a rock and roll band.
 
2014-04-06 02:24:58 PM

craigdamage: Telling the truth can be dangerous business.

If you admit that you play the accordion,
no one will hire you in a rock and roll band.


Cracker has been known to perform with an accordion.
 
2014-04-06 02:27:32 PM

craigdamage: Telling the truth can be dangerous business.

If you admit that you play the accordion,
no one will hire you in a rock and roll band.


Weird Al got his own band.
 
2014-04-06 02:28:00 PM
9/10.  The 2nd guy was probably just socially awkward, not a liar.

/These social cues only work when the participants don't actually believe their own lies
 
2014-04-06 02:29:47 PM
"It's not really a lie if you believe it."

- George Costanza
 
2014-04-06 02:33:56 PM

Krustofsky: "It's not really a lie if you believe it."

- George Costanza


"If you like your health insurance, you can keep it"

-pathological liar
 
2014-04-06 02:34:21 PM
My problem is that if someone accuses/suspects me of lying, and I'm telling the truth, I get the giggles.  Which really doesn't help my credibility.
 
2014-04-06 02:35:40 PM
Bookmark for when I'm not on my phone.

/intrigued
 
2014-04-06 02:37:46 PM
Pfft.  The Bene Gesserit nailed this ages ago (or from now...)
 
2014-04-06 02:43:19 PM
90%, with the girl who had Beyonce as the celebrity to meet throwing me due to her searching around and smirking before the response; if I had waited long enough to hear the reason being both are from Houston this would've made her more plausible.

BigLuca: My problem is that if someone accuses/suspects me of lying, and I'm telling the truth, I get the giggles.  Which really doesn't help my credibility.


I have had to help a few of my high achieving but misbehaving students get over something similar, either grinning or giggling when confronted by another teacher. Not sure why other people cannot recognize those types of involuntary responses in paranoid, anxious, or ashamed situations. Of course, I tend not to get offended or try to read too much into expressions and phrasings.
 
2014-04-06 02:46:26 PM
Is the biatch's mouth moving?
 
2014-04-06 02:47:56 PM
I missed the first five, got the last five.
 
2014-04-06 02:50:23 PM
Got 7/10, might have been 8 but i jumped the gun on one.  I missed #3, #5, and #9.  Number 9 is the one I called too early.

It's not that difficult with people who haven't practiced lying or improv (actors or politicians) or for questions that they haven't prepared for.

1. The biggest giveaway was a flash of amusement as they worked to describe a situation.  That was most likely the person thinking of how to embellish or add to the story, coming up with something that'd be funny, and then discarding it and moving on.

2. Liars tend to tell their stories faster as they come up with it on the spot rather than pausing to remember details.

3. Kind of contrary to 2, people telling the truth won't often spend a bunch of time trying to think of a small detail when telling a story.  Liars tend to move from point to point in a story while the truth tends to be a bit more scattered (mentioning facts as they come to you versus trying to support what you've already said).

It's not much about body language or eye contact or tone, just what is required to tell a lie versus what is required to remember the truth.  Politicians and public speakers can lie more easily because they've prepared for possible topics.  Actors and such can lie more easily because they can more quickly improvise a fleshed out scenario.
 
2014-04-06 02:59:16 PM
10/10


/lying
//seriously 7/10 but I don't hunk it was so much body language, but tone and the time to answer.
 
2014-04-06 03:02:41 PM

BigLuca: My problem is that if someone accuses/suspects me of lying, and I'm telling the truth, I get the giggles.  Which really doesn't help my credibility.


Same. My mother thinks I'm a horrible liar and so never catches it when I'm actually lying.

Luckily for me I wasn't the type of teen to take too much advantage of that.
 
2014-04-06 03:03:07 PM

Vangor: 90%, with the girl who had Beyonce as the celebrity to meet throwing me due to her searching around and smirking before the response; if I had waited long enough to hear the reason being both are from Houston this would've made her more plausible.

BigLuca: My problem is that if someone accuses/suspects me of lying, and I'm telling the truth, I get the giggles.  Which really doesn't help my credibility.

I have had to help a few of my high achieving but misbehaving students get over something similar, either grinning or giggling when confronted by another teacher. Not sure why other people cannot recognize those types of involuntary responses in paranoid, anxious, or ashamed situations. Of course, I tend not to get offended or try to read too much into expressions and phrasings.


This. People who may be nervous for whatever reason will probably exhibit signs of lying because in a broader sense they are lying--about wanting to be in the conversation in the first place--even if they're telling the factual truth about the question at hand.
 
2014-04-06 03:13:11 PM

Gentoolive: Krustofsky: "It's not really a lie if you believe it."

- George Costanza

"If you like your health insurance, you can keep it"

-pathological liar


The Politics Tab is way over there----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------>
 
2014-04-06 03:19:12 PM
7/10 without watching the video's. Just random clicked... hahahaha
 
2014-04-06 03:22:22 PM
I told my kids they each had a fib hair that stood up when they lied. This worked for a long time. One time my little snowflake came in and told some whopper with his hand on his head (to hold down his hair). Precious little liar.
 
2014-04-06 03:27:27 PM
I just assume that everyone is lying.
 
2014-04-06 03:29:50 PM
One of our kids used to clear his throat like every 10 or 15 seconds when he was lying.  Didn't seem to be able to control it, even after someone pointed it out to him.
 
2014-04-06 03:30:58 PM
My phone doesn't like the page, so I'll just throw in a social psychology CSB (Cool Study, Bro):

There was a study published a few years ago in which the researchers tested whether or not watching Lie To Me trained viewers to be better lie-detectors. They used a good randomized two-group experimental design, and showed the experimental group some Lie To Me, and tested them on tasks like the quiz in TFA (compared to the control group). Watching Lie To Me did not increase accuracy at detecting liars, but significantly increased false positives.
 
2014-04-06 03:31:39 PM
With 535 members of Congress in addition to a prez and v.p., I suspect we have more liars in leadership positions than most any other country.

/amidoinitrite?
 
2014-04-06 03:36:16 PM
10/10. I didn't even really listen to what they were saying.  I just watched their eyes.
 
2014-04-06 03:51:03 PM

Podmore: One of our kids used to clear his throat like every 10 or 15 seconds when he was lying.  Didn't seem to be able to control it, even after someone pointed it out to him.


The whole point of reading body language is that the person being read can't control it. If they could, they would, and that would make it worthless for discerning anything they don't want you to know.

Problem is, everyone has a different body language, and only with familiarity with the person can a consistent, reliable reading be achieved. Not that this prevents anyone from pretending to be a master of cold reading, and using shaming and other types of social control to force the people they accuse to conform to the accusation.

/and then there are people like me, whose body language changes over time just as uncontrollably as most others remains fixed
//naturally, that makes us extremely creepy to people that are used to being able to "read" others
///even more so if they don't actually have the skills to figure out why we're so creepy
 
2014-04-06 03:57:46 PM
I have a good read on most people........most people.  Some people are just really damned good at hiding their tells.

/other people, it's when their mouth moves
 
2014-04-06 04:06:40 PM
Anyway, 90%, Beyonce girl threw me off.  Most of those I'd made up my mind within the first 10-15 secs.
 
2014-04-06 04:13:39 PM
10/10.  Eyes plus tone and use of words seems to work for me.  Bandana bro almost tripped me because he broke eye contact at an important spot, but it became a thoughtful thing.
 
2014-04-06 04:14:02 PM
7/10 and I didn't even watch the videos...

/accomplished liar
//not really
///maybe so?
 
2014-04-06 04:58:08 PM
Got every one right except Beyonce girl. I thought it had to be a lie that if  person could meet anyone that they wanted they'd choose Beyonce.
 
2014-04-06 05:23:04 PM
I'm very good at lying.

My problem is when I tell the truth. I become so self-conscious, and so convinced that the other person will think that I'm lying, that I inevitably start acting uncomfortable and awkward--thereby convincing them that I'm lying.
 
2014-04-06 05:51:26 PM
How do we know it's not rigged and the ones who are supposedly telling the truth are lying and vice versa?

/off my meds
 
2014-04-06 06:32:15 PM
My ex always told me the truth when she wasn't busy lying.
 
2014-04-06 06:59:45 PM
Courtesy of David Allen Coe - the Three biggest lies in the world.

"This'll only hurt for a little while,
I'll only put the head of it in. 
I promise that I'll never try to c#m in your mouth."
 
2014-04-06 08:06:49 PM
The New Yorker had an interesting article on the Reid Technique, which is apparently a very common U.S. law enforcement interrogation process.

It relies heavily on the officer reading the suspect's body language.

Unfortunately, they've done follow-up studies showing cops are no better than anyone else at reading body language, and can actually fall into a self-perception trap; because they're trained, they think they're better at it than they actually are.

The real problem arises when they fixate on the suspect in front of them...and then mentally start to unconsciously exclude anyone else.

Couple that with the tendency of certain personality types to make false confessions to authority figures, and, well...
 
2014-04-06 08:43:07 PM
Everything I say is a lie, but I'm really lying.
 
2014-04-07 01:37:06 AM
Look if the eyes roll to the left or the right.  Generally rolling to (their) right means they are
accessing a memory.  Rolling to the left often indicates thinking or creation.

One way you can do this is first ask their favorite color, then move onto the juicy questions.
 
2014-04-07 06:57:48 AM
9/10, I thought #5 was lying based on body language. I started out thinking #4 was lying and #6 was telling the truth, but changed my mind by the end of the videos.

/I'm generally good at spotting liars, but I'm not the trusting sort.
 
2014-04-07 07:55:25 AM
www.occidentaldissent.com

Knows how to spot a liar.
 
2014-04-07 03:14:02 PM
10/10
Eyes are key.
Also, notice that the liars easily remembered events that happened years ago and their speech flowed.
Where as some of the ones who were caught by a question had an "oh crap expression" started slow an then their speech was like a boulder going down a hill.

The only one I took time to think about was subject number 1. His eyes were all over the place and he recalled things quickly. But he didn't falter with the name, however he knew her first name, which is odd. Also, I thought that by repeating the question he was giving himself stalling time to answer with a smoother lie. Also it was just very generic like the first video. But something about him struck me as genuine.
 
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