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(Engadget)   EU to require electric vehicles to emit noise to alert pedestrians of their presence. Subby wants his car to make that Jetsons's bloop-bloop-bloop- bloop sound   (engadget.com) divider line 167
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2014-04-06 03:15:51 PM  
I like where this is going. I want mine to sound exactly like this does:

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-06 03:16:54 PM  
I'd want my car to sound like a ferrari or other super car.  Or a harley.  Or the ice cream man, that'd really piss the neighbour kids off.

Or maybe some banjo chase music.

Jetsons and Flintstones had already occurred to me, though it's good to see subby onboard.
 
2014-04-06 03:17:49 PM  

MarkEC: crumblecat: God help us if this goes the same way as ring tones.

Why yes, yes it will.


So idiots who think they're ballers will be having this on loop?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJGST0XNAIg  very NSFW
 
2014-04-06 03:21:31 PM  

TV's Vinnie: TIE Fighter?


I have a LEAF and when the warranty is up it is going to sound like a this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5_svSADYks
 
2014-04-06 03:23:53 PM  

tzzhc4: I have a LEAF and when the warranty is up it is going to sound like a this.


I thought you meant that the moment the warranty expires it makes makes the sad trombone sound.
 
GBB
2014-04-06 03:24:50 PM  

That Guy Jeff: moeburn: That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.

With my experience with a silent electric car, the danger is not in the streets where people just have to look two directions, but in the parking lots, where they have to look in every direction.  Also, a pedestrian usually knows that streets belong to the cars, and they take crossing them very seriously.  But people tend to treat parking lots as more of a giant walkway with cars in it.

Also, as a driver who pays insurance, I would really encourage anything that makes people less likely to walk in front of my car and get hit, as long as it doesn't make life worse for me.  I hardly thing a backup beeper makes life worse for anyone.

In a parking lot 100% of the responsibility not to hit someone is on the driver. Drive slower.


I would think there is some responsibility on the part of pedestrians to not put themselves in danger.  after all, in a pedestrian vs vehicle collision, it's usually the pedestrian that fares worse.
 
2014-04-06 03:26:52 PM  

brimed03: Well hell, that's gonna put a wrinkle in my annual Pedestrian Hunt.

What? It's a fundraiser.


img.fark.net
Get up enough speed and it won't matter.
 
2014-04-06 03:30:19 PM  
Honk, Honk.  I'm a car.  An electric car.  Suck my baaaaalls. I'm a car......
 
2014-04-06 03:30:33 PM  
Pedestrians are really quiet too. Perhaps we should legally require them to constantly scream instead of drivers having to pay attention to their surroundings.
 
2014-04-06 03:34:35 PM  
I'm going to get the Ghostbusters siren.
 
2014-04-06 03:34:36 PM  
 
2014-04-06 03:35:14 PM  

ReverendJynxed: If you really want to make sure people can hear you

[i.imgur.com image 533x300]


I have that same set on my Suburban. It's very effective in downtown Seattle.
 
2014-04-06 03:41:11 PM  

I Like Shiny Things: They should make it so everyone can upload .wav files to choose their own sound.

I have a bunch of cool ones that came with a program that let me animate the icons on my desktop.


Why would you want animated icons? Your desktop must look like a 90s GeoCities page.
 
2014-04-06 03:44:52 PM  
Harry Harrison thought of this abt 60 years ago

http://williamflew.com/hh.html
 
2014-04-06 03:48:32 PM  
I think they should sound like Pac-man - wokka-wokka-wokka-wokka-wokka-wokka-wokka.
 
2014-04-06 03:49:31 PM  

GBB: That Guy Jeff: moeburn: That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.

With my experience with a silent electric car, the danger is not in the streets where people just have to look two directions, but in the parking lots, where they have to look in every direction.  Also, a pedestrian usually knows that streets belong to the cars, and they take crossing them very seriously.  But people tend to treat parking lots as more of a giant walkway with cars in it.

Also, as a driver who pays insurance, I would really encourage anything that makes people less likely to walk in front of my car and get hit, as long as it doesn't make life worse for me.  I hardly thing a backup beeper makes life worse for anyone.

In a parking lot 100% of the responsibility not to hit someone is on the driver. Drive slower.

I would think there is some responsibility on the part of pedestrians to not put themselves in danger.  after all, in a pedestrian vs vehicle collision, it's usually the pedestrian that fares worse.


You sound fat. No, really.

There are so few pedestrians in the US, that if you can't cope, you shouldn't drive.
 
2014-04-06 03:49:42 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: we already have an on demand alert noise; the horn.


That won't help unless someone is leaning on the horn the entire time. A car making regular car level noises can be heard from quite a distance away. Even from around corners. You would be surprised about how much non-motorists depend on sound to keep aware of a) where the surrounding traffic is, and b) how fast that traffic is moving. People can only really pay visual attention to one direction, the ears cover a far wider area. The sound of an engine keeps people informed whether or not there is a car. The sound tells us when the car takes a turn or when that car speeds up or down. Visually keeping track of motorists around you just doesn't work anywhere near as effective.
 
2014-04-06 03:55:44 PM  
They had the right idea in 1865.

 Also, just as on the railroads, the 1865 legislation required a minimum crew. "At least three persons shall be employed to drive or conduct such locomotive.... One of such persons, while any locomotive is in motion, shall precede such locomotive on foot by not less than sixty yards, and shall carry a red flag constantly displayed, and shall warn the riders and drivers of horses of the approach of such locomotives."

http://www.t2buck.com/redflag.htm
 
2014-04-06 04:12:33 PM  

dforkus: Not deaf, and not a public earphone wearer, but just the other day a Nissan leaf seeming appeared out of nowhere in a walmart parking lot and gave me a good scare.

I think this is a good thing.


The only good thing about you not being deaf is that you will be able to hear all the people shouting, "What the fark are you doing at Walmart?" AND if you are at Walmart, you deserve a good scare. I would personally like to thank the Nissan Corporation.
 
2014-04-06 04:21:40 PM  

Gary-L: Make mine the sounds of the TARDIS.


Everyone will tell you that you left the parking brake on.
 
2014-04-06 04:24:20 PM  

ciberido: Gary-L: Make mine the sounds of the TARDIS.

Everyone will tell you that you left the parking brake on.


s9.favim.com
 
2014-04-06 04:33:10 PM  
Customizable would be such a horrible idea.  Oh sure, YOUR taste in audio expression is flawless, but imagine the next 20 diptards with their brostep and Belieber BS.
 
2014-04-06 04:37:07 PM  

jaytkay: logieal: My solution to a lot of the mandated govt stupidity with vehicles these days.

[oldglorymtb.com image 300x133]

Good thinking. Disable the airbags and seat belts. A steely-eyed libertarian can't have some government bureaucrat hindering his heroic action plan when he gets blindsided by a speeding drunk driver.


I don't disable my airbags, but I absolutely cut the seatbelt sensors.  I do not want my car to whine at me because I don't want a seatbelt on.

And if I had an electric car with a noisemaker, I'd cut it out too.  One of the reasons I'd want an electric car is so it would be quieter.  Car noise pollution is a huge problem, and they're trying to make it worse.  Stupidity like this deserves to be chopped out.
 
2014-04-06 04:43:55 PM  

Thelyphthoric: Customizable would be such a horrible idea.  Oh sure, YOUR taste in audio expression is flawless, but imagine the next 20 diptards with their brostep and Belieber BS.


Pedestrians can just wear headphones if they don't like the sound, other drivers will learn to ignore it, personal expression trumps safety!!11!

/actually if it wasn't customizable by design I'd be fine with that because only us techies would ever do it
//suck my warp coil
 
2014-04-06 04:45:36 PM  

nullptr: This would be the sound of my Prius.

Delta Queen Calliope Music


Winnar of the inter-webs!!!
 
2014-04-06 04:46:32 PM  
 
2014-04-06 04:57:33 PM  

logieal: My solution to a lot of the mandated govt stupidity with vehicles these days.

[oldglorymtb.com image 300x133]


Every time I drive to work in the fog and rain and see ASSHOLES without their lights on, I get pissed because I realize that these people are the reason for such laws.
 
2014-04-06 04:59:28 PM  

BiblioTech: Ivo Shandor: Subby claimed the Jetsons sound, so I'll go the other way and get one that sounds like a horse-drawn wagon. Or on second thought,
[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x311]

Fun fact, if you visit Doune Castle, where much was filmed, you can get coconut shells in the gift shop.


Must do a brisk trade.  How do they keep all the swallows fed?
 
Skr
2014-04-06 04:59:32 PM  

GranoblasticMan: I want mine to just do the Peter Griffin laugh continuously:


heheheheheheHEHEHEHEHEhehehehehehe


I was thinking "Giggity Giggity Giggity Giggity Giggity Giggity" myself.
 
2014-04-06 04:59:54 PM  

BiblioTech: Ivo Shandor: Subby claimed the Jetsons sound, so I'll go the other way and get one that sounds like a horse-drawn wagon. Or on second thought,
[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x311]

Fun fact, if you visit Doune Castle, where much was filmed, you can get coconut shells in the gift shop.


Not familiar with the movie, how do they get the coconuts to that castle gift shop?
 
2014-04-06 05:02:18 PM  

symptomoftheuniverse: BiblioTech: Ivo Shandor: Subby claimed the Jetsons sound, so I'll go the other way and get one that sounds like a horse-drawn wagon. Or on second thought,
[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x311]

Fun fact, if you visit Doune Castle, where much was filmed, you can get coconut shells in the gift shop.

Not familiar with the movie, how do they get the coconuts to that castle gift shop?


D'oh! Failed to read previous comments.
 
2014-04-06 05:14:53 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: No! No it's not!  A thousand times no!  Quiet electric cars, if they become commonplace, have the potential to be among the best innovations to improve the quality of urban life since mayors discovered that "jail the criminals" helped.


Warning lights, etc on vehicles improve safety dramatically.  Toyota, for instance, ran a test where half their test cars were set to light the fog lights automatically whenever the car was in first gear or reverse (instead of letting the user switch them on and off) and it cut low-speed collisions by something like half.

Something like a constant low-volume rumbling sound equivalent to a quiet-running engine would probably help with low-speed issues like pedestrian collisions quite a bit too, especially if they've actually found that running in golf-cart mode increases accidents.
 
2014-04-06 05:15:36 PM  
I think I would want the Gummi Bear song going as I am driving.
As long as I can't hear it from the inside.
Or "Boing, Boing, Boing...."

Guess it's logical to make the machine have some sound. Just as long as it's not that obnoxious.
 
2014-04-06 05:16:34 PM  
I have a Camry Hybrid, and love how silent it is.  Every evening I freak out the impatient pedestrians who step off the curb too early.
 
2014-04-06 05:17:37 PM  
cdn29.elitedaily.com
 
2014-04-06 05:19:46 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: No! No it's not! A thousand times no! Quiet electric cars, if they become commonplace, have the potential to be among the best innovations to improve the quality of urban life since mayors discovered that "jail the criminals" helped.

If you really want to go all regulatory, fit the cars with a bluetooth or wifi emitter and allow deaf people and others who want it to download a proximity warning app to their phones.

Don't have a million cars crawling down Broadway or up Madison going beepbeepbeep. Just don't.


Your'e attacking the wrong noise:  Make each honk of a horn require a heavy write up the user must submit to explain why they used it.  Bury them in paperwork like the cops use to curb how often they draw a weapon and you'll get your quieter streets.  Good god do Americans ever love to lean on their infernal one syllable fark-you buttons.  Nasty ass-neanderthals.
 
2014-04-06 05:26:48 PM  
If I ever get one, I will just make sure it says "Utini!" As loudly as possible.

Its pretty much my favorite sound effect.
 
2014-04-06 05:27:42 PM  

LavenderWolf: NFA: edmo: Maybe pedestrians should just pay attention.
Take out their ear buds
Turn up their hearing aids
Not be deaf
Etc.

Electric cars can be ridiculously quiet.

Yeah, when the car makes so little noise that the loudest sound is that of the turning wheels contacting pavement maybe it's time to talk about additional noise generation for safety reasons.


Agreed. Our is a very reasonable request.

So is the Jetson noise too.
 
2014-04-06 05:29:06 PM  

Dragonflew: Pedestrians are really quiet too. Perhaps we should legally require them to constantly scream instead of drivers having to pay attention to their surroundings.


If a pedestrian weighed 1 ton, is agree.
 
2014-04-06 05:34:28 PM  
Not a single reference to that turrible movie with Vince Vaughn and Kevin James? Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2014-04-06 05:39:32 PM  
Was once nearly flattened by one of these:
i.imgur.com
Silent. Powerful. Deadly.
 
2014-04-06 05:43:36 PM  

That Guy Jeff: ckccfa: That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.

Hahahaha.  Yes, how DARE we try to accommodate the blind or otherwise impaired.  Who the fark do they think they are, real people?!  Those freaks just need to stay inside where it's safe for them, it's not like there's anything for them to see or do in the normal world.  Stop ruining things for the rest of us, amiright?

99% of people shouldn't have to pay for the random misfortune of 1% of the people. So sorry you got shiat on, but it's not everyone else's problem. Even if you're going for "maximum morality", there is a quantifiable greater amount of good from something that benefits 99% at the expense of 1% than from something that benefits 1% at the expense of 99%. Or as Spock would say, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Less road noise benefits EVERYONE except that tiny sliver of people who had the misfortune of ending up blind.

In short, yes, fark the blind. Bringing down the majority of people to give yourself a slight boost is the definition of being a selfish little turd.


That's some serious projection there, because, deep down, you know that you are the selfish little turd.  And you loathe yourself for it, which is why you are so nasty to other people.
 
2014-04-06 05:49:02 PM  
www.virginmedia.com
 
2014-04-06 05:53:52 PM  
Tesla is the clear winner on the technology front of EVs.  If such nany regulations come to North America, hopefully Tesla will simply issue a software update that then allows you your choice of several classic cars with the sounds linked to the speed and acceleration of your car.  Would be kind of cool to drive my 2012 Tesla to the sound of a 1967 E-type Jaguar. (I had the luck to drive both those cars... 45 years separating the technology, but both are fun to drive)
 
2014-04-06 06:09:40 PM  
This is ridiculous.  Even if I accept the argument that cars should be loud enough to alert people of their approach (which I don't), this still shouldn't only apply exclusively to electric cars.  Have you noticed how much noise a small 4 cylinder grocery-getter emits these days?  It's next to nothing.  The tires are easily the largest component of their noise signature.
 
2014-04-06 06:20:46 PM  
Put me down for "IGNORE ME!"
 
2014-04-06 06:20:59 PM  

LtDarkstar: enry: My Prius has a backup warning signal. Inside the car.

Hah ya my friend has one of those cars... I hopped in and I was like "Wow that's loud" and asked him if people outside the car can hear it.. and he said "No"... I'm like... well, what's the point in that then?

Those cars are quiet as all heck... I love that, great for sneaking up on people and scaring the shiat out of them ;)


Do those just beep at a constant interval? My CMax has some kind of radar and will beep at me if it thinks I'm about to bump into something, but not just when backing up.
 
2014-04-06 06:27:14 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Manfred J. Hattan: No! No it's not! A thousand times no! Quiet electric cars, if they become commonplace, have the potential to be among the best innovations to improve the quality of urban life since mayors discovered that "jail the criminals" helped.

If you really want to go all regulatory, fit the cars with a bluetooth or wifi emitter and allow deaf people and others who want it to download a proximity warning app to their phones.

Don't have a million cars crawling down Broadway or up Madison going beepbeepbeep. Just don't.

Your'e attacking the wrong noise:  Make each honk of a horn require a heavy write up the user must submit to explain why they used it.  Bury them in paperwork like the cops use to curb how often they draw a weapon and you'll get your quieter streets.  Good god do Americans ever love to lean on their infernal one syllable fark-you buttons.  Nasty ass-neanderthals.


I always thought they should build cameras into cars that record all the time. The horn would then have the additional feature of submitting the video to the police, who could write tickets based on it. Maybe the guy you honked at gets a ticket for cutting you off. Maybe you get a ticket for being a jerk to the guy who wasn't turning right on red because of the "no right on red" sign that he saw but you didn't.
People will be dammed sure to think before they honk if that were the case.
 
2014-04-06 06:27:57 PM  

Johnny Bananapeel: Was once nearly flattened by one of these:
[i.imgur.com image 700x344]
Silent. Powerful. Deadly.


Explain?
 
2014-04-06 06:29:39 PM  

serial_crusher: I always thought they should build cameras into cars that record all the time. The horn would then have the additional feature of submitting the video to the police, who could write tickets based on it. Maybe the guy you honked at gets a ticket for cutting you off. Maybe you get a ticket for being a jerk to the guy who wasn't turning right on red because of the "no right on red" sign that he saw but you didn't.
People will be dammed sure to think before they honk if that were the case.


Standard feature on Google's future self-driving cars I'm sure, no problem they've got you covered.
 
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