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(Engadget)   EU to require electric vehicles to emit noise to alert pedestrians of their presence. Subby wants his car to make that Jetsons's bloop-bloop-bloop- bloop sound   (engadget.com) divider line 167
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2014-04-06 10:42:53 AM
Maybe pedestrians should just pay attention.
Take out their ear buds
Turn up their hearing aids
Not be deaf
Etc.
 
2014-04-06 11:49:54 AM

edmo: Take out their ear buds


^ This.  If you're going to walk around deaf and oblivious, at least have the courtesy to wear a sign that says "I am deaf and oblivious".
 
2014-04-06 12:19:39 PM
My Prius has a backup warning signal. Inside the car.
 
2014-04-06 12:49:11 PM
And those blind people can just watch the hell out, too
 
2014-04-06 12:58:49 PM
I'm gonna stick a baseball card in the spokes.
 
2014-04-06 01:29:22 PM
Not deaf, and not a public earphone wearer, but just the other day a Nissan leaf seeming appeared out of nowhere in a walmart parking lot and gave me a good scare.

I think this is a good thing.
 
2014-04-06 01:29:37 PM
So we need to glue those stupid deer whistles on our cars now?
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2014-04-06 01:31:18 PM

edmo: Maybe pedestrians should just pay attention.
Take out their ear buds
Turn up their hearing aids
Not be deaf
Etc.


Electric cars can be ridiculously quiet.
 
2014-04-06 01:32:02 PM

Marcus Aurelius: edmo: Take out their ear buds

^ This.  If you're going to walk around deaf and oblivious, at least have the courtesy to wear a sign that says "I am deaf and oblivious".


Or possibly just, you know, LOOK THE FARK AROUND YOU! Situational Awareness is not some friggin prestige class ability!
 
2014-04-06 01:32:18 PM
Meep-meep-meep
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-06 01:32:31 PM
Well hell, that's gonna put a wrinkle in my annual Pedestrian Hunt.

What? It's a fundraiser.
 
2014-04-06 01:33:16 PM

NFA: edmo: Maybe pedestrians should just pay attention.
Take out their ear buds
Turn up their hearing aids
Not be deaf
Etc.

Electric cars can be ridiculously quiet.


Yeah, when the car makes so little noise that the loudest sound is that of the turning wheels contacting pavement maybe it's time to talk about additional noise generation for safety reasons.
 
2014-04-06 01:34:31 PM

Smoking GNU: Marcus Aurelius: edmo: Take out their ear buds

^ This.  If you're going to walk around deaf and oblivious, at least have the courtesy to wear a sign that says "I am deaf and oblivious".

Or possibly just, you know, LOOK THE FARK AROUND YOU! Situational Awareness is not some friggin prestige class ability!


I look around all the time and don't recall being surprised by electric vehicles myself, but surely you can imagine some people (e.g. children, the elderly) requiring a little more notice...
 
2014-04-06 01:34:45 PM

Smoking GNU: Marcus Aurelius: edmo: Take out their ear buds

^ This.  If you're going to walk around deaf and oblivious, at least have the courtesy to wear a sign that says "I am deaf and oblivious".

Or possibly just, you know, LOOK THE FARK AROUND YOU! Situational Awareness is not some friggin prestige class ability!


What the hell is a "prestige class?"

/have a feeling I'm not gonna like your answer
 
2014-04-06 01:36:11 PM
Use a old Stuka siren, and have half of France diving for cover.
 
2014-04-06 01:36:43 PM
Get a TESLA.   They already make sounds like a V8

/only on CBS 60 Minutes though...
 
2014-04-06 01:36:54 PM
Subby claimed the Jetsons sound, so I'll go the other way and get one that sounds like a horse-drawn wagon. Or on second thought,
26.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-06 01:37:31 PM
This would be the sound of my Prius.

Delta Queen Calliope Music
 
2014-04-06 01:37:36 PM
I'm with subby. I might actually buy one like that.

Instead they'll probably go with straight tooth gears instead of helical somewhere.
 
2014-04-06 01:37:42 PM
Can I have mine do the Jaws theme?
 
2014-04-06 01:39:17 PM
 I put one of those Stebel electric air horns on my motorcycle, and when someone cuts in front of me, whether a car or not, I just give them a blast. Lot louder than a fire truck, no matter how loud their car stereo is, or if they're wearing headphones, It scares the Shiat out of them all.Only had to use it a few times, but it's worth it.
 
2014-04-06 01:39:26 PM

K3rmy: Can I have mine do the Jaws theme?


I'll take the Imperial March
 
2014-04-06 01:41:48 PM
God help us if this goes the same way as ring tones.
 
2014-04-06 01:42:46 PM
Good call on the Jetsons sound, subby; me too. That, or, a turbine jet noise.  In the future, we will buy and trade sound files for our cars like we do ring tones for phones today.
 
2014-04-06 01:43:02 PM
Will this be like ringtones, where everyone gets to pick their own? Who makes those great ice cream truck tunes?
 
2014-04-06 01:44:35 PM

crumblecat: God help us if this goes the same way as ring tones.


It's dat WOOWOO!!!!
 
2014-04-06 01:45:25 PM
Lekkerlekker
 
2014-04-06 01:46:16 PM
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-06 01:46:31 PM
I want MY Electric Car to make that Flinstones foot-slapping sound.
 
2014-04-06 01:47:05 PM
How about "Move biatch, get out the way" by Ludacris on a continuous loop.
 
2014-04-06 01:47:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n17B_uFF4cA

It helps to paste my link...

ugh
 
2014-04-06 01:47:33 PM
How about the sound of a Landspeeder or TIE Fighter?
 
2014-04-06 01:47:38 PM
Good idea at low speeds around possible blind people (or people who are unaware of their surroundings). But my idea is to get a speaker and play the sounds from an ice cream truck. (just joking here)
 
2014-04-06 01:48:03 PM

LavenderWolf: NFA: edmo: Maybe pedestrians should just pay attention.
Take out their ear buds
Turn up their hearing aids
Not be deaf
Etc.

Electric cars can be ridiculously quiet.

Yeah, when the car makes so little noise that the loudest sound is that of the turning wheels contacting pavement maybe it's time to talk about additional noise generation for safety reasons.


No! No it's not!  A thousand times no!  Quiet electric cars, if they become commonplace, have the potential to be among the best innovations to improve the quality of urban life since mayors discovered that "jail the criminals" helped.

If you really want to go all regulatory, fit the cars with a bluetooth or wifi emitter and allow deaf people and others who want it to download a proximity warning app to their phones.

Don't have a million cars crawling down Broadway or up Madison going beepbeepbeep.  Just don't.
 
2014-04-06 01:48:13 PM
Mine talks:

Hello, I am an electric car. I can't go very fast, or very far. And if you drive me, people will think you're gay!

/obvious
 
2014-04-06 01:48:31 PM
If you really want to make sure people can hear you

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-06 01:48:36 PM
The world is going insane.  First they complain about the cars being too loud, now it is for being too quiet.  There is no vehicle that is absolutely quiet, the problem is ambient noise.  If they could get the rest of the world to shut up there would be no problem.
 
2014-04-06 01:49:23 PM
They could put a gas motor in it to replicate the sound of a gas motor.

Hook it up to the transmission while you're at it and pull out the batteries for more cargo space.
 
2014-04-06 01:49:53 PM
I'll take the big fart sound if available.
 
2014-04-06 01:50:04 PM
Modern internal combustion cars are so quiet that you can sneak up on someone who isn't paying attention to your direction. Engines and exhausts are getting very, very quiet. I'm all for forcing advanced in technology in the same of safety, but this is unnecessary. Electric motors do make a very specific, non background (meaning that it actually will catch your attention) noise. Besides, we already have an on demand alert noise; the horn.

FTFA:  Parliament also wants to start lowering conventional engine noise levels as soon as July 2016

So, make IC cars even quieter but make EV cars nosier. So they have some sort of decibel range that they are trying to stay within or are they just going for extra derp?

My first electric vehicle will probably be a motorcycle like the Brammo. If I end up with a car with a synthesized sound the first thing I'll look into doing is removing the speaker for it. I'm sure the modding community will find a way in short time.
 
2014-04-06 01:50:19 PM
The Jetsons sound is clearly the best possible option.

Yakety Sax would be my second choice
 
2014-04-06 01:50:51 PM

kaduh: I'll take the big fart sound if available.


That should replace the horn.
 
2014-04-06 01:50:54 PM
My solution to a lot of the mandated govt stupidity with vehicles these days.

oldglorymtb.com
 
2014-04-06 01:51:27 PM
Heh, was at a mall recently where the security guy's golf cart made that sound.  I was duly amused.
 
2014-04-06 01:54:09 PM
I would prefer the Fred Flintstone car sound.
 
2014-04-06 01:56:31 PM
Guess it's time to revive some of those old red flag laws.  And, if you startle a pedestrian with your electric vehicle, you must immediately disassemble your vehicle and hide it behind a shrubbery until the pedestrian is pacified.
 
2014-04-06 01:56:41 PM
How about the sound of a dump truck's engine?
Just to confuse the fark out of people.  Hear a massive diesel behind you, turn and look for it...nothing...little sedan goes by, taking the sound with it...
 
2014-04-06 01:56:53 PM
Available in continouos loops of  "Yellow Rose of Texas", "La Cucaracha", "The Entertainer" or "Turkey in the Straw"
 
2014-04-06 01:57:15 PM
I was recently reading about laws at the dawn of the automobile age. So as not to spook the horse coming the other way, automobile drivers were required to pull over off the road, and cover their auto with sticks and leaves. If none were available, then you were expected to disassemble your vehicle, and scatter the parts. At 4 ways, a driver was expected to stop, look about, exit the vehicle, shout, and finally, fire a pistol in the air. Maybe we could just fire pistols to alert folks.
 
2014-04-06 01:57:36 PM
Make mine the sounds of the TARDIS.
 
2014-04-06 01:57:58 PM
needs more cowbell.
But lacking that, how's this?

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-06 01:58:27 PM

jtown: Guess it's time to revive some of those old red flag laws.  And, if you startle a pedestrian with your electric vehicle, you must immediately disassemble your vehicle and hide it behind a shrubbery until the pedestrian is pacified.


Excellent
 
2014-04-06 01:58:35 PM
Give the cars the sound of a Ferrari V12.
 
2014-04-06 01:58:42 PM
i.imgur.com

/or switch to a tuba when I'm following a fat family through the parking lot to poach their spot
 
2014-04-06 01:58:49 PM

logieal: My solution to a lot of the mandated govt stupidity with vehicles these days.

[oldglorymtb.com image 300x133]


Good thinking. Disable the airbags and seat belts. A steely-eyed libertarian can't have some government bureaucrat hindering his heroic action plan when he gets blindsided by a speeding drunk driver.
 
2014-04-06 02:00:44 PM

Ooba Tooba: I was recently reading about laws at the dawn of the automobile age. So as not to spook the horse coming the other way, automobile drivers were required to pull over off the road, and cover their auto with sticks and leaves. If none were available, then you were expected to disassemble your vehicle, and scatter the parts. At 4 ways, a driver was expected to stop, look about, exit the vehicle, shout, and finally, fire a pistol in the air. Maybe we could just fire pistols to alert folks.


I should have lived 100 years ago. That sounds like paradise! =(
 
2014-04-06 02:01:14 PM

Smoking GNU: Marcus Aurelius: edmo: Take out their ear buds

^ This.  If you're going to walk around deaf and oblivious, at least have the courtesy to wear a sign that says "I am deaf and oblivious".

Or possibly just, you know, LOOK THE FARK AROUND YOU! Situational Awareness is not some friggin prestige class ability!


img2.wikia.nocookie.net

Aaaaactually the prestige classes tend to not have it at all.
/hell yes Imma gonna pony this thread
//screencap of Rainbow bodychecking Twilight out of the way of the helicopter isn't up yet
 
2014-04-06 02:01:49 PM

edmo: Maybe pedestrians should just pay attention.


Tell me, when has asking people to be superhuman ever been a viable solution to anything?
 
2014-04-06 02:02:05 PM
Subby wants his car to make that Jetsons's bloop-bloop-bloop- bloop sound

Here you go Subby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnT1VgeXOF0
 
2014-04-06 02:03:11 PM

dforkus: Not deaf, and not a public earphone wearer, but just the other day a Nissan leaf seeming appeared out of nowhere in a walmart parking lot and gave me a good scare.

I think this is a good thing.


Amen- cyclist here. Those rear engine city buses are also a bit stealthy. Leafs are the worst. Teslas are everywhere here, and at least produce a bit of road noise. Conversely, studded tires are legal here. I hear a noisy behemoth approaching from behind, only to find a Micra.
 
2014-04-06 02:05:26 PM

TV's Vinnie: TIE Fighter?


SO MUCH THIS.

Also, the electric forklifts on my job site are all required, by OHS, to have some kind of a beeper when they're moving because they're otherwise dead silent. How is a car in a parking lot any less dangerous?
 
2014-04-06 02:07:42 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: K3rmy: Can I have mine do the Jaws theme?

I'll take the Imperial March


Paint the car bright yellow and have it go "wakka wakka wakka" like a giant pac-man. Put a pressure switch in the front bumper that plays the 'gulp' sound if you hit anyone.
 
2014-04-06 02:09:17 PM
Makes sense, really. Seems like a rational solution to a real potential for harm.

I know, I know; a government-type body did it so it's automatically tyranny, overreach, out-of-control, etc. How dare the wellbeing of citizens be considered in the slightest? Won't somebody think about freedom (for business and corporations only)?!
 
2014-04-06 02:09:37 PM

edmo: Maybe pedestrians should just pay attention.
Take out their ear buds
Turn up their hearing aids
Not be deaf
Etc.


I almost bit, until I saw the punchline.
 
2014-04-06 02:10:31 PM
wildcardjack:Instead they'll probably go with straight tooth gears instead of helical somewhere.

Straight cut gears. HNNG. Straight gears and a Subie boxer rumble. Audio sex.
 
2014-04-06 02:11:26 PM
So can I get ice cream truck music for my windowless van one? I ask for a friend.
 
2014-04-06 02:13:13 PM

nullptr: Ooba Tooba: I was recently reading about laws at the dawn of the automobile age. So as not to spook the horse coming the other way, automobile drivers were required to pull over off the road, and cover their auto with sticks and leaves. If none were available, then you were expected to disassemble your vehicle, and scatter the parts. At 4 ways, a driver was expected to stop, look about, exit the vehicle, shout, and finally, fire a pistol in the air. Maybe we could just fire pistols to alert folks.

I should have lived 100 years ago. That sounds like paradise! =(


That was a PA Bill that never made it into law, thanks to a veto.
 
2014-04-06 02:13:39 PM

Lokasenna: TV's Vinnie: TIE Fighter?

SO MUCH THIS.

Also, the electric forklifts on my job site are all required, by OHS, to have some kind of a beeper when they're moving because they're otherwise dead silent. How is a car in a parking lot any less dangerous?


Yes and on some job sites you are required to wear hearing protectors, which in some cases can cancel out the benefit of the backup alarms on forklifts. If you want to get workers attention where there are forklifts, play the sound of the roach coach arriving.
 
2014-04-06 02:14:16 PM
Does this mean my CMax will add several inches to my penis, like a loud motorcycle would?
 
2014-04-06 02:15:16 PM
I want mine to just do the Peter Griffin laugh continuously:


heheheheheheHEHEHEHEHEhehehehehehe
 
2014-04-06 02:16:51 PM

DigitalCoffee: MaudlinMutantMollusk: K3rmy: Can I have mine do the Jaws theme?

I'll take the Imperial March

Paint the car bright yellow and have it go "wakka wakka wakka" like a giant pac-man. Put a pressure switch in the front bumper that plays the 'gulp' sound if you hit anyone.


And the power up sound when you plug it in?
 
2014-04-06 02:17:24 PM
Wow, old news is sure exciting.

Still, can't wait to see the butthurt in the US when this is also required.
 
2014-04-06 02:17:37 PM

TV's Vinnie: I want MY Electric Car to make that Flinstones foot-slapping sound.


For your horn:
YABBA-DABBA-DOOO!!!
 
2014-04-06 02:18:26 PM
On the other hand EV car makers should jump on this.  So far almost everyone in the thread has a specific sound they'd like to hear coming out of their car.. imagine if you could set the sound of your car like you would a ringtone?   I'd pick BTTF DeLorean in a heartbeat.
 
2014-04-06 02:18:50 PM
sdd2000:
Yes and on some job sites you are required to wear hearing protectors, which in some cases can cancel out the benefit of the backup alarms on forklifts.

Balls.  If your hearing protection renders you unable to hear the backup beeper, then the background noise is louder than the beeper, and you need a louder beeper.

Or, better yet, somebody has to re-engineer the space so as to isolate the noise-producing machinery from the warehouse stock area.
/know what you're talking about, though-just visited a soda bottling plant, and it was just like that
 
2014-04-06 02:19:42 PM
They should make it so everyone can upload .wav files to choose their own sound.

I have a bunch of cool ones that came with a program that let me animate the icons on my desktop.
 
2014-04-06 02:20:31 PM

Ivo Shandor: Subby claimed the Jetsons sound, so I'll go the other way and get one that sounds like a horse-drawn wagon. Or on second thought,
[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x311]


Fun fact, if you visit Doune Castle, where much was filmed, you can get coconut shells in the gift shop.
 
2014-04-06 02:21:05 PM
Hybrid kia's have an engine sound when it's running on battery power
 
2014-04-06 02:26:48 PM

LavenderWolf: Yeah, when the car makes so little noise that the loudest sound is that of the turning wheels contacting pavement maybe it's time to talk about additional noise generation for safety reasons.


I'll make mine the sound of a horse pulling a carriage, and the pace of the hoofbeats increases (walk -> trot -> cantor -> gallop) as vehicle speed increases.

Should be VERY popular with my neighbors at 5AM on Sunday mornings!
 
2014-04-06 02:30:27 PM
I put some thought into a bloop-bloop tailpipe attachment awhile ago.
In this case though, you want a forward sound. I would have a loop of a stern "on your left." I don't want to hear it obviously. I'm sure the technology exists where it can be heard only 20 feet and beyond from the source.
 
2014-04-06 02:31:19 PM
How about a 200dB sonic boom when the car hits 35mph?
 
2014-04-06 02:31:47 PM
Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.
 
2014-04-06 02:35:09 PM

enry: My Prius has a backup warning signal. Inside the car.


Hah ya my friend has one of those cars... I hopped in and I was like "Wow that's loud" and asked him if people outside the car can hear it.. and he said "No"... I'm like... well, what's the point in that then?

Those cars are quiet as all heck... I love that, great for sneaking up on people and scaring the shiat out of them ;)
 
2014-04-06 02:35:10 PM

Lokasenna: Also, the electric forklifts on my job site are all required, by OHS, to have some kind of a beeper when they're moving because they're otherwise dead silent. How is a car in a parking lot any less dangerous?


But then OSHA mandated hearing protection for everyone, so you needed louder beepers, and then more hearing protection because of the louder beeping!  Catch-22!

IMHO, just keep your head on a swivel when you know those things are about.
 
2014-04-06 02:35:17 PM

That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.


Hahahaha.  Yes, how DARE we try to accommodate the blind or otherwise impaired.  Who the fark do they think they are, real people?!  Those freaks just need to stay inside where it's safe for them, it's not like there's anything for them to see or do in the normal world.  Stop ruining things for the rest of us, amiright?
 
2014-04-06 02:38:24 PM
www.phatnphunky.com

/another option
 
2014-04-06 02:40:52 PM
Benny Hill theme
 
2014-04-06 02:49:25 PM

ckccfa: That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.

Hahahaha.  Yes, how DARE we try to accommodate the blind or otherwise impaired.  Who the fark do they think they are, real people?!  Those freaks just need to stay inside where it's safe for them, it's not like there's anything for them to see or do in the normal world.  Stop ruining things for the rest of us, amiright?


99% of people shouldn't have to pay for the random misfortune of 1% of the people. So sorry you got shiat on, but it's not everyone else's problem. Even if you're going for "maximum morality", there is a quantifiable greater amount of good from something that benefits 99% at the expense of 1% than from something that benefits 1% at the expense of 99%. Or as Spock would say, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Less road noise benefits EVERYONE except that tiny sliver of people who had the misfortune of ending up blind.

In short, yes, fark the blind. Bringing down the majority of people to give yourself a slight boost is the definition of being a selfish little turd.
 
2014-04-06 02:51:42 PM

LtDarkstar: enry: My Prius has a backup warning signal. Inside the car.

Hah ya my friend has one of those cars... I hopped in and I was like "Wow that's loud" and asked him if people outside the car can hear it.. and he said "No"... I'm like... well, what's the point in that then?

Those cars are quiet as all heck... I love that, great for sneaking up on people and scaring the shiat out of them ;)


Indeed  http://youtu.be/R8mjIcTqLTk
 
2014-04-06 02:52:31 PM

TomD9938: They could put a gas motor in it to replicate the sound of a gas motor.

Hook it up to the transmission while you're at it and pull out the batteries for more cargo space.


Oh look!  One of the petroleum Amishia

tell us more about how your religion forbids modern technology.  May we watch you call someone on your Razor (TM) flip phone?
 
2014-04-06 02:52:52 PM
 
2014-04-06 02:53:30 PM
 
2014-04-06 02:55:46 PM
As an owner of a Ford C-Max plug-in hybrid, this is absolutely necessary.  We thought of it before the lawmakers did - this car is absolutely silent.  I've been driving it for almost a year now, and I still think the engine is dead and the car is just rolling from gravity when I drive it.

The biggest danger of the silence that we found was in parking lots.  Yes, people can look and see that the car is moving backwards, or that the white reverse lights are on, but the sound of the engine is pretty important too, considering how crazy some parking lots can get.  If a person isn't looking directly at the car they are passing, they won't see those lights or the movement, and the only thing they have to rely on is hearing the engine in reverse.  On several occasions, people have blindly walked in the path of our car, while it is moving, simply because they can't hear it and they weren't looking at it.

So we installed a back up beeper on the C-Max, and now it sounds like a garbage truck when it backs up.
 
2014-04-06 02:57:10 PM

Cyber_Junk: TomD9938: They could put a gas motor in it to replicate the sound of a gas motor.

Hook it up to the transmission while you're at it and pull out the batteries for more cargo space.

Oh look!  One of the petroleum Amishia

tell us more about how your religion forbids modern technology.  May we watch you call someone on your Razor (TM) flip phone?


Nah.  I like the coal powered cars too.
 
2014-04-06 02:59:20 PM

That Guy Jeff: In short, yes, fark the blind. Bringing down the majority of people to give yourself a slight boost is the definition of being a selfish little turd.


A real man stands up for his beliefs  You should go punch a blind person and a couple of elderly. You can't let them get away with this.
 
2014-04-06 03:00:11 PM

That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.


With my experience with a silent electric car, the danger is not in the streets where people just have to look two directions, but in the parking lots, where they have to look in every direction.  Also, a pedestrian usually knows that streets belong to the cars, and they take crossing them very seriously.  But people tend to treat parking lots as more of a giant walkway with cars in it.

Also, as a driver who pays insurance, I would really encourage anything that makes people less likely to walk in front of my car and get hit, as long as it doesn't make life worse for me.  I hardly thing a backup beeper makes life worse for anyone.
 
2014-04-06 03:02:20 PM

crumblecat: God help us if this goes the same way as ring tones.


Why yes, yes it will.
 
2014-04-06 03:03:46 PM

moeburn: That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.

With my experience with a silent electric car, the danger is not in the streets where people just have to look two directions, but in the parking lots, where they have to look in every direction.  Also, a pedestrian usually knows that streets belong to the cars, and they take crossing them very seriously.  But people tend to treat parking lots as more of a giant walkway with cars in it.

Also, as a driver who pays insurance, I would really encourage anything that makes people less likely to walk in front of my car and get hit, as long as it doesn't make life worse for me.  I hardly thing a backup beeper makes life worse for anyone.


In a parking lot 100% of the responsibility not to hit someone is on the driver. Drive slower.
 
2014-04-06 03:15:02 PM
Wagner. It'll scare the hell outta 'em.
 
2014-04-06 03:15:11 PM

TomD9938: Cyber_Junk: TomD9938: They could put a gas motor in it to replicate the sound of a gas motor.

Hook it up to the transmission while you're at it and pull out the batteries for more cargo space.

Oh look!  One of the petroleum Amishia

tell us more about how your religion forbids modern technology.  May we watch you call someone on your Razor (TM) flip phone?

Nah.  I like the coal powered cars too.


i.imgur.com

/tee hee hee
 
2014-04-06 03:15:51 PM
I like where this is going. I want mine to sound exactly like this does:

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-06 03:16:54 PM
I'd want my car to sound like a ferrari or other super car.  Or a harley.  Or the ice cream man, that'd really piss the neighbour kids off.

Or maybe some banjo chase music.

Jetsons and Flintstones had already occurred to me, though it's good to see subby onboard.
 
2014-04-06 03:17:49 PM

MarkEC: crumblecat: God help us if this goes the same way as ring tones.

Why yes, yes it will.


So idiots who think they're ballers will be having this on loop?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJGST0XNAIg  very NSFW
 
2014-04-06 03:21:31 PM

TV's Vinnie: TIE Fighter?


I have a LEAF and when the warranty is up it is going to sound like a this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5_svSADYks
 
2014-04-06 03:23:53 PM

tzzhc4: I have a LEAF and when the warranty is up it is going to sound like a this.


I thought you meant that the moment the warranty expires it makes makes the sad trombone sound.
 
GBB
2014-04-06 03:24:50 PM

That Guy Jeff: moeburn: That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.

With my experience with a silent electric car, the danger is not in the streets where people just have to look two directions, but in the parking lots, where they have to look in every direction.  Also, a pedestrian usually knows that streets belong to the cars, and they take crossing them very seriously.  But people tend to treat parking lots as more of a giant walkway with cars in it.

Also, as a driver who pays insurance, I would really encourage anything that makes people less likely to walk in front of my car and get hit, as long as it doesn't make life worse for me.  I hardly thing a backup beeper makes life worse for anyone.

In a parking lot 100% of the responsibility not to hit someone is on the driver. Drive slower.


I would think there is some responsibility on the part of pedestrians to not put themselves in danger.  after all, in a pedestrian vs vehicle collision, it's usually the pedestrian that fares worse.
 
2014-04-06 03:26:52 PM

brimed03: Well hell, that's gonna put a wrinkle in my annual Pedestrian Hunt.

What? It's a fundraiser.


img.fark.net
Get up enough speed and it won't matter.
 
2014-04-06 03:30:19 PM
Honk, Honk.  I'm a car.  An electric car.  Suck my baaaaalls. I'm a car......
 
2014-04-06 03:30:33 PM
Pedestrians are really quiet too. Perhaps we should legally require them to constantly scream instead of drivers having to pay attention to their surroundings.
 
2014-04-06 03:34:35 PM
I'm going to get the Ghostbusters siren.
 
2014-04-06 03:34:36 PM
 
2014-04-06 03:35:14 PM

ReverendJynxed: If you really want to make sure people can hear you

[i.imgur.com image 533x300]


I have that same set on my Suburban. It's very effective in downtown Seattle.
 
2014-04-06 03:41:11 PM

I Like Shiny Things: They should make it so everyone can upload .wav files to choose their own sound.

I have a bunch of cool ones that came with a program that let me animate the icons on my desktop.


Why would you want animated icons? Your desktop must look like a 90s GeoCities page.
 
2014-04-06 03:44:52 PM
Harry Harrison thought of this abt 60 years ago

http://williamflew.com/hh.html
 
2014-04-06 03:48:32 PM
I think they should sound like Pac-man - wokka-wokka-wokka-wokka-wokka-wokka-wokka.
 
2014-04-06 03:49:31 PM

GBB: That Guy Jeff: moeburn: That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.

With my experience with a silent electric car, the danger is not in the streets where people just have to look two directions, but in the parking lots, where they have to look in every direction.  Also, a pedestrian usually knows that streets belong to the cars, and they take crossing them very seriously.  But people tend to treat parking lots as more of a giant walkway with cars in it.

Also, as a driver who pays insurance, I would really encourage anything that makes people less likely to walk in front of my car and get hit, as long as it doesn't make life worse for me.  I hardly thing a backup beeper makes life worse for anyone.

In a parking lot 100% of the responsibility not to hit someone is on the driver. Drive slower.

I would think there is some responsibility on the part of pedestrians to not put themselves in danger.  after all, in a pedestrian vs vehicle collision, it's usually the pedestrian that fares worse.


You sound fat. No, really.

There are so few pedestrians in the US, that if you can't cope, you shouldn't drive.
 
2014-04-06 03:49:42 PM

CtrlAltDestroy: we already have an on demand alert noise; the horn.


That won't help unless someone is leaning on the horn the entire time. A car making regular car level noises can be heard from quite a distance away. Even from around corners. You would be surprised about how much non-motorists depend on sound to keep aware of a) where the surrounding traffic is, and b) how fast that traffic is moving. People can only really pay visual attention to one direction, the ears cover a far wider area. The sound of an engine keeps people informed whether or not there is a car. The sound tells us when the car takes a turn or when that car speeds up or down. Visually keeping track of motorists around you just doesn't work anywhere near as effective.
 
2014-04-06 03:55:44 PM
They had the right idea in 1865.

 Also, just as on the railroads, the 1865 legislation required a minimum crew. "At least three persons shall be employed to drive or conduct such locomotive.... One of such persons, while any locomotive is in motion, shall precede such locomotive on foot by not less than sixty yards, and shall carry a red flag constantly displayed, and shall warn the riders and drivers of horses of the approach of such locomotives."

http://www.t2buck.com/redflag.htm
 
2014-04-06 04:12:33 PM

dforkus: Not deaf, and not a public earphone wearer, but just the other day a Nissan leaf seeming appeared out of nowhere in a walmart parking lot and gave me a good scare.

I think this is a good thing.


The only good thing about you not being deaf is that you will be able to hear all the people shouting, "What the fark are you doing at Walmart?" AND if you are at Walmart, you deserve a good scare. I would personally like to thank the Nissan Corporation.
 
2014-04-06 04:21:40 PM

Gary-L: Make mine the sounds of the TARDIS.


Everyone will tell you that you left the parking brake on.
 
2014-04-06 04:24:20 PM

ciberido: Gary-L: Make mine the sounds of the TARDIS.

Everyone will tell you that you left the parking brake on.


s9.favim.com
 
2014-04-06 04:33:10 PM
Customizable would be such a horrible idea.  Oh sure, YOUR taste in audio expression is flawless, but imagine the next 20 diptards with their brostep and Belieber BS.
 
2014-04-06 04:37:07 PM

jaytkay: logieal: My solution to a lot of the mandated govt stupidity with vehicles these days.

[oldglorymtb.com image 300x133]

Good thinking. Disable the airbags and seat belts. A steely-eyed libertarian can't have some government bureaucrat hindering his heroic action plan when he gets blindsided by a speeding drunk driver.


I don't disable my airbags, but I absolutely cut the seatbelt sensors.  I do not want my car to whine at me because I don't want a seatbelt on.

And if I had an electric car with a noisemaker, I'd cut it out too.  One of the reasons I'd want an electric car is so it would be quieter.  Car noise pollution is a huge problem, and they're trying to make it worse.  Stupidity like this deserves to be chopped out.
 
2014-04-06 04:43:55 PM

Thelyphthoric: Customizable would be such a horrible idea.  Oh sure, YOUR taste in audio expression is flawless, but imagine the next 20 diptards with their brostep and Belieber BS.


Pedestrians can just wear headphones if they don't like the sound, other drivers will learn to ignore it, personal expression trumps safety!!11!

/actually if it wasn't customizable by design I'd be fine with that because only us techies would ever do it
//suck my warp coil
 
2014-04-06 04:45:36 PM

nullptr: This would be the sound of my Prius.

Delta Queen Calliope Music


Winnar of the inter-webs!!!
 
2014-04-06 04:46:32 PM
 
2014-04-06 04:57:33 PM

logieal: My solution to a lot of the mandated govt stupidity with vehicles these days.

[oldglorymtb.com image 300x133]


Every time I drive to work in the fog and rain and see ASSHOLES without their lights on, I get pissed because I realize that these people are the reason for such laws.
 
2014-04-06 04:59:28 PM

BiblioTech: Ivo Shandor: Subby claimed the Jetsons sound, so I'll go the other way and get one that sounds like a horse-drawn wagon. Or on second thought,
[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x311]

Fun fact, if you visit Doune Castle, where much was filmed, you can get coconut shells in the gift shop.


Must do a brisk trade.  How do they keep all the swallows fed?
 
Skr
2014-04-06 04:59:32 PM

GranoblasticMan: I want mine to just do the Peter Griffin laugh continuously:


heheheheheheHEHEHEHEHEhehehehehehe


I was thinking "Giggity Giggity Giggity Giggity Giggity Giggity" myself.
 
2014-04-06 04:59:54 PM

BiblioTech: Ivo Shandor: Subby claimed the Jetsons sound, so I'll go the other way and get one that sounds like a horse-drawn wagon. Or on second thought,
[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x311]

Fun fact, if you visit Doune Castle, where much was filmed, you can get coconut shells in the gift shop.


Not familiar with the movie, how do they get the coconuts to that castle gift shop?
 
2014-04-06 05:02:18 PM

symptomoftheuniverse: BiblioTech: Ivo Shandor: Subby claimed the Jetsons sound, so I'll go the other way and get one that sounds like a horse-drawn wagon. Or on second thought,
[26.media.tumblr.com image 500x311]

Fun fact, if you visit Doune Castle, where much was filmed, you can get coconut shells in the gift shop.

Not familiar with the movie, how do they get the coconuts to that castle gift shop?


D'oh! Failed to read previous comments.
 
2014-04-06 05:14:53 PM

Manfred J. Hattan: No! No it's not!  A thousand times no!  Quiet electric cars, if they become commonplace, have the potential to be among the best innovations to improve the quality of urban life since mayors discovered that "jail the criminals" helped.


Warning lights, etc on vehicles improve safety dramatically.  Toyota, for instance, ran a test where half their test cars were set to light the fog lights automatically whenever the car was in first gear or reverse (instead of letting the user switch them on and off) and it cut low-speed collisions by something like half.

Something like a constant low-volume rumbling sound equivalent to a quiet-running engine would probably help with low-speed issues like pedestrian collisions quite a bit too, especially if they've actually found that running in golf-cart mode increases accidents.
 
2014-04-06 05:15:36 PM
I think I would want the Gummi Bear song going as I am driving.
As long as I can't hear it from the inside.
Or "Boing, Boing, Boing...."

Guess it's logical to make the machine have some sound. Just as long as it's not that obnoxious.
 
2014-04-06 05:16:34 PM
I have a Camry Hybrid, and love how silent it is.  Every evening I freak out the impatient pedestrians who step off the curb too early.
 
2014-04-06 05:17:37 PM
cdn29.elitedaily.com
 
2014-04-06 05:19:46 PM

Manfred J. Hattan: No! No it's not! A thousand times no! Quiet electric cars, if they become commonplace, have the potential to be among the best innovations to improve the quality of urban life since mayors discovered that "jail the criminals" helped.

If you really want to go all regulatory, fit the cars with a bluetooth or wifi emitter and allow deaf people and others who want it to download a proximity warning app to their phones.

Don't have a million cars crawling down Broadway or up Madison going beepbeepbeep. Just don't.


Your'e attacking the wrong noise:  Make each honk of a horn require a heavy write up the user must submit to explain why they used it.  Bury them in paperwork like the cops use to curb how often they draw a weapon and you'll get your quieter streets.  Good god do Americans ever love to lean on their infernal one syllable fark-you buttons.  Nasty ass-neanderthals.
 
2014-04-06 05:26:48 PM
If I ever get one, I will just make sure it says "Utini!" As loudly as possible.

Its pretty much my favorite sound effect.
 
2014-04-06 05:27:42 PM

LavenderWolf: NFA: edmo: Maybe pedestrians should just pay attention.
Take out their ear buds
Turn up their hearing aids
Not be deaf
Etc.

Electric cars can be ridiculously quiet.

Yeah, when the car makes so little noise that the loudest sound is that of the turning wheels contacting pavement maybe it's time to talk about additional noise generation for safety reasons.


Agreed. Our is a very reasonable request.

So is the Jetson noise too.
 
2014-04-06 05:29:06 PM

Dragonflew: Pedestrians are really quiet too. Perhaps we should legally require them to constantly scream instead of drivers having to pay attention to their surroundings.


If a pedestrian weighed 1 ton, is agree.
 
2014-04-06 05:34:28 PM
Not a single reference to that turrible movie with Vince Vaughn and Kevin James? Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2014-04-06 05:39:32 PM
Was once nearly flattened by one of these:
i.imgur.com
Silent. Powerful. Deadly.
 
2014-04-06 05:43:36 PM

That Guy Jeff: ckccfa: That Guy Jeff: Once again, a benefit to the vast majority of humanity (silent cars) is ruined by a tiny proportion of the population (the blind) and people who SHOULD be dead (pedestrians who can't look before crossing a street). As a kid I thought the "punish everyone for the bad few" thing was just a trope showing how unfair authority can be in children's movies. I didn't realize that's how the world actually operates.

Hahahaha.  Yes, how DARE we try to accommodate the blind or otherwise impaired.  Who the fark do they think they are, real people?!  Those freaks just need to stay inside where it's safe for them, it's not like there's anything for them to see or do in the normal world.  Stop ruining things for the rest of us, amiright?

99% of people shouldn't have to pay for the random misfortune of 1% of the people. So sorry you got shiat on, but it's not everyone else's problem. Even if you're going for "maximum morality", there is a quantifiable greater amount of good from something that benefits 99% at the expense of 1% than from something that benefits 1% at the expense of 99%. Or as Spock would say, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Less road noise benefits EVERYONE except that tiny sliver of people who had the misfortune of ending up blind.

In short, yes, fark the blind. Bringing down the majority of people to give yourself a slight boost is the definition of being a selfish little turd.


That's some serious projection there, because, deep down, you know that you are the selfish little turd.  And you loathe yourself for it, which is why you are so nasty to other people.
 
2014-04-06 05:49:02 PM
www.virginmedia.com
 
2014-04-06 05:53:52 PM
Tesla is the clear winner on the technology front of EVs.  If such nany regulations come to North America, hopefully Tesla will simply issue a software update that then allows you your choice of several classic cars with the sounds linked to the speed and acceleration of your car.  Would be kind of cool to drive my 2012 Tesla to the sound of a 1967 E-type Jaguar. (I had the luck to drive both those cars... 45 years separating the technology, but both are fun to drive)
 
2014-04-06 06:09:40 PM
This is ridiculous.  Even if I accept the argument that cars should be loud enough to alert people of their approach (which I don't), this still shouldn't only apply exclusively to electric cars.  Have you noticed how much noise a small 4 cylinder grocery-getter emits these days?  It's next to nothing.  The tires are easily the largest component of their noise signature.
 
2014-04-06 06:20:46 PM
Put me down for "IGNORE ME!"
 
2014-04-06 06:20:59 PM

LtDarkstar: enry: My Prius has a backup warning signal. Inside the car.

Hah ya my friend has one of those cars... I hopped in and I was like "Wow that's loud" and asked him if people outside the car can hear it.. and he said "No"... I'm like... well, what's the point in that then?

Those cars are quiet as all heck... I love that, great for sneaking up on people and scaring the shiat out of them ;)


Do those just beep at a constant interval? My CMax has some kind of radar and will beep at me if it thinks I'm about to bump into something, but not just when backing up.
 
2014-04-06 06:27:14 PM

BumpInTheNight: Manfred J. Hattan: No! No it's not! A thousand times no! Quiet electric cars, if they become commonplace, have the potential to be among the best innovations to improve the quality of urban life since mayors discovered that "jail the criminals" helped.

If you really want to go all regulatory, fit the cars with a bluetooth or wifi emitter and allow deaf people and others who want it to download a proximity warning app to their phones.

Don't have a million cars crawling down Broadway or up Madison going beepbeepbeep. Just don't.

Your'e attacking the wrong noise:  Make each honk of a horn require a heavy write up the user must submit to explain why they used it.  Bury them in paperwork like the cops use to curb how often they draw a weapon and you'll get your quieter streets.  Good god do Americans ever love to lean on their infernal one syllable fark-you buttons.  Nasty ass-neanderthals.


I always thought they should build cameras into cars that record all the time. The horn would then have the additional feature of submitting the video to the police, who could write tickets based on it. Maybe the guy you honked at gets a ticket for cutting you off. Maybe you get a ticket for being a jerk to the guy who wasn't turning right on red because of the "no right on red" sign that he saw but you didn't.
People will be dammed sure to think before they honk if that were the case.
 
2014-04-06 06:27:57 PM

Johnny Bananapeel: Was once nearly flattened by one of these:
[i.imgur.com image 700x344]
Silent. Powerful. Deadly.


Explain?
 
2014-04-06 06:29:39 PM

serial_crusher: I always thought they should build cameras into cars that record all the time. The horn would then have the additional feature of submitting the video to the police, who could write tickets based on it. Maybe the guy you honked at gets a ticket for cutting you off. Maybe you get a ticket for being a jerk to the guy who wasn't turning right on red because of the "no right on red" sign that he saw but you didn't.
People will be dammed sure to think before they honk if that were the case.


Standard feature on Google's future self-driving cars I'm sure, no problem they've got you covered.
 
2014-04-06 06:34:00 PM

ReverendJynxed: If you really want to make sure people can hear you

[i.imgur.com image 533x300]


Assuming that that's a single unit, why would it have multiple 'funnels' like that?
 
2014-04-06 06:43:05 PM

BigNumber12: Johnny Bananapeel: Was once nearly flattened by one of these:
[i.imgur.com image 700x344]
Silent. Powerful. Deadly.

Explain?


i.imgur.com

Pretty damn quiet on the outside as well.
 
2014-04-06 06:52:16 PM

BigNumber12: ReverendJynxed: If you really want to make sure people can hear you

[i.imgur.com image 533x300]

Assuming that that's a single unit, why would it have multiple 'funnels' like that?


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train_horn

So you can optimize each horn for a specific note, resulting in a harmonic chord.
 
2014-04-06 06:59:58 PM

Mighty Aswan: The world is going insane.  First they complain about the cars being too loud, now it is for being too quiet.  There is no vehicle that is absolutely quiet, the problem is ambient noise.  If they could get the rest of the world to shut up there would be no problem.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1999465-f1-engine-noise-debate-vi ra l-video-shows-difference-between-2013-and-2014-cars

Sound is apparently important.
 
2014-04-06 07:25:23 PM

BigNumber12: Assuming that that's a single unit, why would it have multiple 'funnels' like that?


Each horn makes a different tone.
 
2014-04-06 07:34:30 PM

TV's Vinnie: How about the sound of a Landspeeder or TIE Fighter?


and when you 'honk' the horn it can make that TIE Fighter shooting sound!

/*Kweetch! Kweetch-kweetch!
 
2014-04-06 07:55:21 PM
They just removed half of the motivation for buying an EV.
 
2014-04-06 08:13:02 PM
 
2014-04-06 09:21:50 PM
The Leaf has had this since day one.  It makes a kinda white noise sound that get progressively quieter until it is going about 18 MPH.
 
2014-04-06 09:37:10 PM
I want my 'lectric car sound to play the original Winnebago Man soundtrack on a loop.
 
2014-04-06 09:46:33 PM
Download your car sound like ringtones.
 
2014-04-07 12:54:37 AM

I Like Shiny Things: They should make it so everyone can upload .wav files to choose their own sound.

I have a bunch of cool ones that came with a program that let me animate the icons on my desktop.


I know you probably (hopefully) mean just some appropriate sound effects, but that's a terrible idea. Because it will result in people making their cars constantly blast terrible rap and pop songs at all times. Think of ringtones. NOPE.

Seriously, though, the "must make noise" rule is meant for 1) blind people 2) bicyclists and pedestrians, who won't know silent cars are approaching them from behind. They don't intend to make them so loud they'd be audible with earphones in, they're for people who ARE paying attention but don't have eyes in the back of their heads - or working ones in front.

 

boozel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n17B_uFF4cA


Yeah, that's what I actually came here to say. Cracks me up. And makes me want pizza.
 
2014-04-07 01:03:30 AM
I want mine to make that noise the star ship enterprise makes when they floor it.
 
2014-04-07 12:08:46 PM
Watch the tram car please Watch the tram car please Watch Watch the tra
 
2014-04-07 01:10:18 PM

Thelyphthoric: Customizable would be such a horrible idea.  Oh sure, YOUR taste in audio expression is flawless, but imagine the next 20 diptards with their brostep and Belieber BS.


Do you actually know a Justin Bieber fan who is old enough to drive?
 
2014-04-07 01:39:44 PM

Dragonflew: Thelyphthoric: Customizable would be such a horrible idea.  Oh sure, YOUR taste in audio expression is flawless, but imagine the next 20 diptards with their brostep and Belieber BS.

Do you actually know a Justin Bieber fan who is old enough to drive?


Yes.  My daughter who is 19.

/Luckily, she has not bothered to get her license.
 
2014-04-07 05:24:23 PM

BetterMetalSnake: If I ever get one, I will just make sure it says "Utini!" As loudly as possible.

Its pretty much my favorite sound effect.


I'm never buying a droid from you unless I check the motivator first.
 
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