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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Game of Thrones returns tonight after the tragic events of the Red Wedding. Will Joffrey's wedding go off without a hitch? Will Jamie lend a hand? Will Hodor Hodor? Find out tonight at 9PM ET on HBO. It's your Official GOT discussion thread   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 36
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2014-04-06 10:49:48 PM  
4 votes:

elguerodiablo: What did papa jerk Lannister just put in the fire?


I believe the wolf pelt he threw in at the end was the sheath for Ned Starks sword.  You can see it here in a pic from the very first episode.  The sword was so big Theon had to hold it while Ned drew it:

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2014-04-07 12:57:06 AM  
3 votes:
I want 5 more seasons of the zany adventures of Arya and the Hound as they kill assholes from tavern to tavern in their travels.  But I know their run is about over :(  I know she hates him, but man she could learn a lot of shiat from him.  A whole damn lot.
2014-04-06 10:22:33 PM  
3 votes:

dopekitty74: crazydave023: New Dario Naharis? Not as handsome or as good an actor. Not off to a good start HBO.

Probably contract dispute

:( i loved the original actor they had playing him. Was not pleased to find out he's been replaced


EWWWWWW that guy looked like a retarded sci-fi vampire. I didn't care who they got to replace him, it's an improvement.
2014-04-06 07:38:14 AM  
3 votes:
No. Go outside. Come back at like 7:30.
2014-04-06 10:57:14 PM  
2 votes:
Yay new locations in the opening scenes, Bronn, dragons, Arya, bringing back those assy guys at the Night's Watch.
 Meh new Daario


I never hated Tywin Lannister until he threw the pelt in the fire.

What the hell happened to Lancel??!?  Book Cersei gets herself a lot of man-loving. After Lancel she sleeps around with upstart knights. Has TV Cersei been boffing Ser Meryn? That would be hilariously disgusting.
2014-04-06 10:55:08 PM  
2 votes:

Will-Mun: Are we ever gonna see Arya in an actual sword fight? Or was all that sword training in the first season just fluff?

Don't give me any of that 12 year old girl against a soldier stuff, her entire character arc is questing to become a great warrior.... Or die, George RR Martin and all.


In a sword fight, physics plays a big role. A much stronger opponent has an edge. An adult woman and an adult man have some serious disparity, on average. That's why Japanese samurai traditionally trained daughters to use pole weapons. Upper body strength is a lot less important with a naginata than a sword or club. Aria isn't even an adult, yet.

A 12 year old girl can't fight against a knight. It's just not possible. She doesn't have the reach to counter attack and she doesn't have the strength to parry or block a solid thrust or chop. They could just touch like counting coup until she dropped from exhaustion or put a single thrust through her from well out of her own range.

Martin might be into fantasy and fiction, but he's at least logical about the swordplay. No Bilbos fighting off an army of orcs with a letter opener.
2014-04-06 10:17:06 PM  
2 votes:
So if the wedding is next week, that means Joffery strangles Sansa to death at the wedding (Purple wedding) and Tyrion snaps and attacks him.  Should be a good episode
2014-04-06 09:59:43 PM  
2 votes:

Will-Mun: Johnny Texas: Cymbal: LOL, seriously?

Yep

http://www.bustle.com/articles/19185-what-happened-to-game-of-throne s- daario-naharis-why-the-actor-changed-for-season-4

Now that is a man who sees an upward Career Path.


The cast of Game of Thrones is enormous, and the shooting schedule is very long. With the exception of Emilia Clark, Kit Harrington, and a handful of others, I'd bet that most of the cast are not making that much money relatively.

Can't fault the guy for taking a payday.
2014-04-06 08:57:30 PM  
2 votes:
Uh, do those of us who don't watch this show get a Cosmos thread?
2014-04-06 11:12:04 AM  
2 votes:

JerseyTim: HBO should consider doing a pre-Game of Thrones hype song, like what NBC does with Sunday Night Football and Carrie Underwood and Faith Hill.

♫ I've been waiting all day for Sunday Night ♫
♫ It's time to see some dragons fight ♫
♫ If someone doesn't kill Joffrey I just might ♫
♫ Cause I been waiting all day for Sunday Night ♫


♫ Hey, Jack, take the black
The snow's coming soon
The wall is a rockin'
White Walkers are about to burst through
Westeros best have come to play
For every fan there's just one thing left to say ♫

♫I been waitin' all day for Sunday night
The warriors will get rough in a primetime fight
The last one standin' gets to turn out the lights
'Cause I been waitin' all day for Sunday night
Yea, yea, yeah♫

♫Aria will sleep after saying a creed
Tyrion and Tywin are the best on TV
The players are ready
The titties and wine will flow
'Cause the Game of Thrones rocks on HBO
Yeah ♫
2014-04-06 09:07:45 AM  
2 votes:
HBO should consider doing a pre-Game of Thrones hype song, like what NBC does with Sunday Night Football and Carrie Underwood and Faith Hill.

♫ I've been waiting all day for Sunday Night ♫
♫ It's time to see some dragons fight ♫
♫ If someone doesn't kill Joffrey I just might ♫
♫ Cause I been waiting all day for Sunday Night ♫
2014-04-07 06:41:21 PM  
1 votes:

I Like Bread: doloresonthedottedline: phantomht: the old daario sucked. MOST disliked him [the actor]. he looked goofy and his acting sucked.
i also thought id read back in January [?] the show dumped him because of such. [an article introducing new and replaced chars]

i like the new guy MUCH more.

Are you a guy or a girl? I've seen a few people in this thread say they hate him, but every girl I know thinks he's ridiculously hot. And fits with Daario Naharis, who is cocky and arrogant and smirking and hot in that sort of way. Wondering if it's just a dude thing because the things they noticed about the character are just different.

All I know is that he's supposed to be dressed as some medieval pimp daddy with blue hair.


I'm pretty grateful they skip the crazy outfits and hair colors. Although it would probably translate well to anime.
2014-04-07 05:05:25 PM  
1 votes:

Confabulat: why bring back Ser Dontos now? Weird. I forgot how his storyline played out anyway.

And wasn't Arya's revenge killing for Lommy in Book Six, which hasn't even come out yet? I thought that he died in one of those preview chapters.


The drunk knight doesn't do anything important other than be Littlefinger's gopher until the wedding, no reason to simply not use Littlefinger directly.  They need the drunk for the wedding though

You're correct that the dude she killed in the preview chapter was the one she killed last night.  Since she never got needle back in the show when escaping from Harren Hall, she had to kill him there to get it back.  Beyond that, one low level Lannister goon on the list is no more important than another.  Nobody will care if she kills some other minion in 2 seasons outside the play
2014-04-07 12:37:33 PM  
1 votes:

StrikitRich: SPOILER:

One thing I noticed in Oberon's conversation with Tyrion was his offhand remark about Rhaegar Targaryen leaving his sister Elia for another woman.  We all know that Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna Stark which just smacked me in the face as another clue to Jon Snow not being Edd's bastard son but really the child of Rhaegar and Lyanna.  This would make him Aemon Targaryen's great-great nephew who we saw looking after Jon during the treason inquiry.   Jon would also be Daenerys' nephew.


I don't think "kidnapping" is the right term since that story varies greatly depending on who tells the story.
2014-04-07 05:26:51 AM  
1 votes:

doloresonthedottedline: phantomht: the old daario sucked. MOST disliked him [the actor]. he looked goofy and his acting sucked.
i also thought id read back in January [?] the show dumped him because of such. [an article introducing new and replaced chars]

i like the new guy MUCH more.

Are you a guy or a girl? I've seen a few people in this thread say they hate him, but every girl I know thinks he's ridiculously hot. And fits with Daario Naharis, who is cocky and arrogant and smirking and hot in that sort of way. Wondering if it's just a dude thing because the things they noticed about the character are just different.


Woman here, and the first Daario was incredibly not-hot.  (shudder) Farker looked like a lizard with hair.
2014-04-07 04:10:41 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: I just want to see a Stark on the Throne

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2014-04-07 02:33:16 AM  
1 votes:

Danger Avoid Death: Will-Mun: Danger Avoid Death: rustypouch: I'm just looking forward to seeing the dwarf kill his Dad.

Dingleberry Dickwad: Will-Mun: doglover: Wicked Chinchilla: I waited for a dance with dragons for about 4 months
for about 4 months
4 months

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I just bought the books, like, right now. Finally just decided to take the plunge. Gonna read them, maybe even take my time. Think about it, by the time I'm done, how long will I have to wait? Maybe a year? I mean... A whole year waiting for the book! What will THAT be like? God it'll be hard I bet. Who could wait that long for something they love?

/Cackles.

Hehe, I'm actually thinking about picking up the books despite the fact that I don't get much time to read anymore. I figure if I can wait 6 years between Dark Tower books 3 and 4 and then another 6 between 4 and the rest of the books, I can wait a year or 3 for Martin to get off his ass and finish the series.

Lets just hope GRRM doesn't pull a Robert Jordan and die before he finishes the series.

I'm fairly certain GRRM has stated he told the head writer or director or someone on the show's production team the basic remaining plot summary and ending for JUST such an occasion.

Yeah, I read the same thing. Not so much in case of his death, but because it's taking him on average of five years for each book. Already we have the problem of Maisie Williams already being too old to play Arya, on paper, but I can't see them replacing her for any reason; she's just too damned amazing. If Peter Dinklage stole the first season, Maisie Williams stole the second. And she's only getting better.


Optimistic take:
The time between books 1 and 2 & 2 and 3 was about 2 years each.  The problem with the time it took to write books 4&5 had to do with a 5 year gap GRRM originally intended to write, but then had to scrap followed by the "Meereenese knot".  If GRRM isn't dealing with a similar obstacle then the upcoming book shouldn't take as long as the previous two books.  I'd like to think the added motivation of not getting passed by the TV series would help, but who knows.
2014-04-07 02:14:23 AM  
1 votes:
the old daario sucked. MOST disliked him [the actor]. he looked goofy and his acting sucked.
i also thought id read back in January [?] the show dumped him because of such. [an article introducing new and replaced chars]

i like the new guy MUCH more.
2014-04-07 01:29:53 AM  
1 votes:

Arachnophobe: Wicked Chinchilla: then he finally gets to events again at the end of dance with dragons and we have some more years of waiting.

So Dance does pick up again? Because I don't know if I'm just overexposed (read Clash, Storm, Feast all in a row over the past month or so) or if it really is kind of dragging. I don't see how this can be spoilerish, but Tyrion was just dragged out of the river where I left off in Dance. Maybe I just needed a break.


I read that scene in the middle of the night. Creeped me out pretty bad.

I actually read book 1, some of book 2, then read Dance. Because I wanted to know what wasn't in the show yet, and didn't feel like reading Theon's storyline instead. Gonna go back soon. I actually didn't think Dance was too slow, but I did find that as soon as I got into one character, it was the end of a chapter, and I had to try and make myself care about someone else instead. It also would've probably been worse if I'd pushed through all the earlier books before letting myself read it.


Also, fark NEW DAARIO NAHARIS. He is not acceptable. That other guy was hot as hell. This guy doesn't even seem to know how to smirk.
2014-04-07 01:18:24 AM  
1 votes:
I like the new Dhario, big improvement over the old one.  Not a lot happened in this episode, but they needed to set the pieces in place for the rest of the season.  Even then we still didn't see what Stannis and Theon are up to.

They really need to bump up the number of episodes per season to 15 or 20 or make each one longer to cover things in greater detail.
2014-04-07 12:40:29 AM  
1 votes:

Wicked Chinchilla: I waited for a dance with dragons for about 4 months
for about 4 months
4 months


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2014-04-07 12:15:48 AM  
1 votes:

Will-Mun: Are we ever gonna see Arya in an actual sword fight? Or was all that sword training in the first season just fluff?

Don't give me any of that 12 year old girl against a soldier stuff, her entire character arc is questing to become a great warrior.... Or die, George RR Martin and all.


That scene's actually a disappointment in that regard as, iirc, she was supposed to sword/knife fight some squire and gut him while the Hound was taking on the rest, then come over and do what she did do in the show, hamstringing and backstabbing the dudes he was fighting. Certain Important Plot Things were supposed to happen in the fight that didn't, so I'm also wonder how that stuff is going to happen now, or if the Show-runners are just going to do one of thier sloppy write-arounds :/

Of course, I might be smushing two fights together into one in my memory over this, so maybe I'm off-base.
2014-04-06 11:55:58 PM  
1 votes:

Will-Mun: being nimble enough with astiletto blade to make due against some soldiers.


Don't you worry about Arya. But learn you some basic fencing.

No one is nimble enough to footwork around someone at a distance faster than a capable fighter can use a shield. It's like the spokes trying to outrun the hub of a wheel. You can get around a shield with your weapon, or crash through it, or step around behind someone up close, but you'll never get an opening until you're up close.

Secondly, Needle is a tiny little thing. It's for a young girl to practice with. It's a smaller version of the sword the soldiers would be using. Her range is already crap because she's smaller, and her weapon reduces this even further. Miyamoto Musashi won his most famous duel by using a wooden sword that was a few fingers' widths longer than his opponent's famously long steel sword. Range matters.

Third, Arya practiced with intensity for about a month. Soldiers practice with intensity for about a forever. Especially in Westros were war is both the national sport and soldier their only occupation other than farmer, blacksmith, lord, whore, and maester.

She's got every disadvantage in a sword fight with a soldier. Sure, she could probably beat Samwell Tarley or Maester Aemon without breaking a sweat, but any given soldier would beat her in a fair fight. And that's why you never fight fair.
2014-04-06 11:24:54 PM  
1 votes:

Will-Mun: doglover: Will-Mun: Are we ever gonna see Arya in an actual sword fight? Or was all that sword training in the first season just fluff?

Don't give me any of that 12 year old girl against a soldier stuff, her entire character arc is questing to become a great warrior.... Or die, George RR Martin and all.

In a sword fight, physics plays a big role. A much stronger opponent has an edge. An adult woman and an adult man have some serious disparity, on average. That's why Japanese samurai traditionally trained daughters to use pole weapons. Upper body strength is a lot less important with a naginata than a sword or club. Aria isn't even an adult, yet.

A 12 year old girl can't fight against a knight. It's just not possible. She doesn't have the reach to counter attack and she doesn't have the strength to parry or block a solid thrust or chop. They could just touch like counting coup until she dropped from exhaustion or put a single thrust through her from well out of her own range.

Martin might be into fantasy and fiction, but he's at least logical about the swordplay. No Bilbos fighting off an army of orcs with a letter opener.

I get what you're saying, I do. But I just don't care. In a world with dragons and little psychic boys who can see through thr eyes of a crow, the suspension of disbelief is allotted a ton of leeway.

As well I know in the books that Tyrion doesn't knock himself out before the  Battle of the Green Fork but fights, and was able to prove his merits (if I'm not mistaken it's why his barbarian friends follow him in the end.)

I really don't think it's much of a stretch between a 4 foot dwarf fighting in a war and a 12 year old girl, classically trained in sword fighting, being nimble enough with astiletto blade to make due against some soldiers.

I mean yeah it's not realistic, but it would be super cool.


Arya wants to kill. Arya knows how to kill. Arya is special.
2014-04-06 11:20:21 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: Will-Mun: Are we ever gonna see Arya in an actual sword fight? Or was all that sword training in the first season just fluff?

Don't give me any of that 12 year old girl against a soldier stuff, her entire character arc is questing to become a great warrior.... Or die, George RR Martin and all.

In a sword fight, physics plays a big role. A much stronger opponent has an edge. An adult woman and an adult man have some serious disparity, on average. That's why Japanese samurai traditionally trained daughters to use pole weapons. Upper body strength is a lot less important with a naginata than a sword or club. Aria isn't even an adult, yet.

A 12 year old girl can't fight against a knight. It's just not possible. She doesn't have the reach to counter attack and she doesn't have the strength to parry or block a solid thrust or chop. They could just touch like counting coup until she dropped from exhaustion or put a single thrust through her from well out of her own range.

Martin might be into fantasy and fiction, but he's at least logical about the swordplay. No Bilbos fighting off an army of orcs with a letter opener.


I get what you're saying, I do. But I just don't care. In a world with dragons and little psychic boys who can see through thr eyes of a crow, the suspension of disbelief is allotted a ton of leeway.

As well I know in the books that Tyrion doesn't knock himself out before the  Battle of the Green Fork but fights, and was able to prove his merits (if I'm not mistaken it's why his barbarian friends follow him in the end.)

I really don't think it's much of a stretch between a 4 foot dwarf fighting in a war and a 12 year old girl, classically trained in sword fighting, being nimble enough with a
stiletto blade to make due against some soldiers.

I mean yeah it's not realistic, but it would be super cool.
2014-04-06 11:16:41 PM  
1 votes:
Egalitarian:

What the hell happened to Lancel??!?  Book Cersei gets herself a lot of man-loving. After Lancel she sleeps around with upstart knights. Has TV Cersei been boffing Ser Meryn? That would be hilariously disgusting.

HBO can't afford TV Cersei's boobs
2014-04-06 10:44:37 PM  
1 votes:

Ravijn: enderthexenocide: Jerseysteve22: So if the wedding is next week, that means Joffery strangles Sansa to death at the wedding (Purple wedding) and Tyrion snaps and attacks him.  Should be a good episode

that's not very nice, making fake spoilers like that.

besides, everyone knows that tyrion is the one who gets strangled to death at the wedding, right after sansa stabs cersei and joffrey kills tywin and he poops gold just like everyone says.

Don't forget about the resurrected Robb Stark!


As long as they don't forget the Margery/Ygritte pillow fight scene, I'm tuning in.
2014-04-06 10:31:09 PM  
1 votes:
Ser Yarp goes Leeroy Jenkins.

/at least he's got chicken
2014-04-06 10:17:59 PM  
1 votes:

crazydave023: New Dario Naharis? Not as handsome or as good an actor. Not off to a good start HBO.

Probably contract dispute


:( i loved the original actor they had playing him. Was not pleased to find out he's been replaced
2014-04-06 10:09:36 PM  
1 votes:

elguerodiablo: What did papa jerk Lannister just put in the fire?


Pretty sure it was the wolf pelt that Ned Stark wrapped his  Valyrian steel great sword in.
2014-04-06 09:58:28 PM  
1 votes:
Arya is a stone cold killer.
2014-04-06 08:53:32 PM  
1 votes:

Blushing Wall Flower: No. Go outside. Come back at like 7:30.


Or wait until all 10 episodes air, and watch them over a weekend.
2014-04-06 08:51:53 PM  
1 votes:
No HBO this year, gonna have to avast the scurvy dog in a couple hours.
2014-04-06 12:35:50 PM  
1 votes:

somedude210: So do you think we'll have to wait all season for the Joeffery wedding?


I read a review where the author got to see the first three episodes and he's already mentioned the wedding. Woot.

My fellow farkers, I would like you to note how wonderful my husband is. Over Christmas, he got me a House Tyrell T-Shirt and Shotglass both emblazoned with the rose sigil.

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So, tonight I shall be drunk and wearing nothing but a t-shirt for the premier.
2014-04-06 10:00:49 AM  
1 votes:
2014-04-06 09:17:44 AM  
1 votes:
I got nothin', so here's a GoT rap recap
 
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