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2014-04-06 11:28:27 AM
We could just fully legalize it, old man subby.
 
2014-04-06 11:29:02 AM
From the "Pulling Stats Out Of My Ass" division of Ideology, Inc.
 
2014-04-06 11:34:37 AM
Never one for it,  I can't stand smoking anything really.   I do see the benefit.

Friend of mine had spells of nausea and wasn't eating enough.    Was popping Dimenhydrinate (Gravol) like candy and it didn't really help.   My doctor prescribed her medical marijuana.  Immediate increase in appetite, and nausea went away.

Biggest issue I have seen (At least in my home province) is that Newly trained Doctors aren't given any significant training or information about it.   The old guard of Doctors still think it's pseudoscience.
 
2014-04-06 11:43:23 AM

b-maz: Never one for it,  I can't stand smoking anything really.   I do see the benefit.

Friend of mine had spells of nausea and wasn't eating enough.    Was popping Dimenhydrinate (Gravol) like candy and it didn't really help.   My doctor prescribed her medical marijuana.  Immediate increase in appetite, and nausea went away.

Biggest issue I have seen (At least in my home province) is that Newly trained Doctors aren't given any significant training or information about it.   The old guard of Doctors still think it's pseudoscience.


 A lot of it is, don't mean to judge but this sounds like she had an eating disorder she was hiding (Bulimia sufferer here) Women who get eating disorders get better on marijuana but that just masks the symptoms and doesn't get to the root of the cause. It's just a mask covering the symptoms and after a while the mask fades and the problems just get worse.
 
2014-04-06 11:46:55 AM
I'll believe it when I see it. Not medical marijuana, but legal weed being bought and sold and taxed, etc. just like alcohol and cigs. Won't happen in my lifetime though. :(
 
2014-04-06 11:48:16 AM
"The survey of more than 1 500 doctors and nearly 3 000 consumers found [...]"

Consumers? Consumers of what? Obviously not of medical marijuana or else the numbers would be quite a bit higher.

/makes you sound like you're talking about locust rather than people
//time for the two minute hate yet?
 
2014-04-06 11:53:23 AM
"Favour", not "favor", thus not American doctors, thus meaningless.
 
2014-04-06 11:53:41 AM
I think many doctors are split on if it should be fully legalized or prescription only.  But I've never talked to one that agrees with it being schedule I.  Do you know why?  Because most doctors aren't hysterical morons.
 
2014-04-06 11:55:27 AM
Legalizing pot would be the absolute best way to take it out of the hands of children, so of course educated people would prefer this approach.
 
2014-04-06 11:58:47 AM

BigLuca: I think many doctors are split on if it should be fully legalized or prescription only.  But I've never talked to one that agrees with it being schedule I.  Do you know why?  Because most doctors aren't hysterical morons.


Probably because cannabis actually has medical benefit and they do the science.
 
2014-04-06 12:04:42 PM
But will my insurance pay for it?

/please obama?
 
2014-04-06 12:09:39 PM

The Gentleman Caller: We could just fully legalize it, old man subby.


Exactly. Let's stop the pretense of medicinal mj like medicinal alcohol.
 
2014-04-06 12:10:06 PM
Amazes me that persons with an education are no longer under the spell of "Marijuana, Demon Weed" bullzhit.
Simply amazing.

How about if the rest of you inform your political shills that the Americanized Black Market Of Drugs is changing and they are gonna need a bigger boat.
 
2014-04-06 12:11:37 PM
Soon it will become hard to get elected to office with an anti-cannabis platform when the vast majority of voters favor legalization.  Very soon.  Like now.
 
2014-04-06 12:14:10 PM
You would think that a politician in his right mind would be making an exit strategy at this point.
Unfortunately politicians are not paid for their minds.
 
2014-04-06 12:16:15 PM
Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.
 
GBB
2014-04-06 12:18:06 PM

alice_600: b-maz: Never one for it,  I can't stand smoking anything really.   I do see the benefit.

Friend of mine had spells of nausea and wasn't eating enough.    Was popping Dimenhydrinate (Gravol) like candy and it didn't really help.   My doctor prescribed her medical marijuana.  Immediate increase in appetite, and nausea went away.

Biggest issue I have seen (At least in my home province) is that Newly trained Doctors aren't given any significant training or information about it.   The old guard of Doctors still think it's pseudoscience.

 A lot of it is, don't mean to judge but this sounds like she had an eating disorder she was hiding (Bulimia sufferer here) Women who get eating disorders get better on marijuana but that just masks the symptoms and doesn't get to the root of the cause. It's just a mask covering the symptoms and after a while the mask fades and the problems just get worse.


A lot of pharmaceuticals treat just the symptoms.  Lots of Doctors treat just the symptoms.  There's an old adage, "Cures are not profitable."
 
2014-04-06 12:19:38 PM

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.


That's fine because vaporizing it is way more efficient and leaves your lungs unmolested.
 
2014-04-06 12:21:32 PM

Fano: The Gentleman Caller: We could just fully legalize it, old man subby.

Exactly. Let's stop the pretense of medicinal mj like medicinal alcohol.


Take lying out of the hands of doctors and give it all back to the lawyers and politicians where it belongs?
 
2014-04-06 12:23:32 PM

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.


So we have that going for us
 
2014-04-06 12:31:11 PM

lewismarktwo: Whatchoo Talkinbout: Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.

That's fine because vaporizing it is way more efficient and leaves your lungs unmolested.


yeah, ever tried vaping Brick?
 
2014-04-06 12:33:56 PM

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.


The only thing I hate worse than regular nazis are body-nazis.

ericpetersautos.com

/gonna get your comeupence someday
 
2014-04-06 12:43:42 PM
We have known that smoking in general has been bad for us since the early 60s. How is it that smoking marijuana which is inhaled deeper, hotter, held longer and unfiltered any better than cigarettes? The thought of inhaling anything other than plain old clean air into your lungs is insane.
 
2014-04-06 12:45:56 PM

yanoosh: We have known that smoking in general has been bad for us since the early 60s. How is it that smoking marijuana which is inhaled deeper, hotter, held longer and unfiltered any better than cigarettes? The thought of inhaling anything other than plain old clean air into your lungs is insane.


Right.
http://www.tricountycessation.org/tobaccofacts/Cigarette-Ingredients .h tml
 
2014-04-06 12:52:47 PM

bwilson27: yanoosh: We have known that smoking in general has been bad for us since the early 60s. How is it that smoking marijuana which is inhaled deeper, hotter, held longer and unfiltered any better than cigarettes? The thought of inhaling anything other than plain old clean air into your lungs is insane.

Right.
http://www.tricountycessation.org/tobaccofacts/Cigarette-Ingredients .h tml


If you think there is no tar in a joint you are deluding yourself. Has anyone done a similar study to see what other compounds are released, you can bet its more than THC.
 
2014-04-06 12:55:50 PM

lewismarktwo: Whatchoo Talkinbout: Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.

That's fine because vaporizing it is way more efficient and leaves your lungs unmolested.


The California Smoking Nazis are banning that. Because the children.
 
2014-04-06 01:03:18 PM

bwilson27: yanoosh: We have known that smoking in general has been bad for us since the early 60s. How is it that smoking marijuana which is inhaled deeper, hotter, held longer and unfiltered any better than cigarettes? The thought of inhaling anything other than plain old clean air into your lungs is insane.

Right.
http://www.tricountycessation.org/tobaccofacts/Cigarette-Ingredients .h tml


That's being a little bit disingenuous by not posting a link that also contains chemicals compounds produced by marijuana (without any additives at all, by the way.) Also, that part you bolded in the quote is by likely coincidence an almost identical quote from an article published by the Mayo Clinic from a study on the specific pros and cons of cigarette smoke versus marijuana smoke.

"Marijuana contains at least 60 chemicals called cannabinoids. Researchers are evaluating how effective some of these cannabinoids might be in controlling symptoms of certain medical conditions. For example:
THC. An abbreviation for delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, THC is the main component responsible for marijuana's mind-altering effect. It also may help treat signs and symptoms such as nausea and vomiting that are associated with a number of medical conditions.
Cannabinol and cannabidiol. These compounds have some of the properties of THC, but cause less psychoactive effects - the high. [...]
Also, marijuana smoke contains 50 percent to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke and has the potential to cause cancer of the lungs and respiratory tract. Marijuana smoke is commonly inhaled deeper and held longer than is tobacco smoke, increasing the lungs' exposure to carcinogens."


I'm not arguing pros and cons, and I favor legalization, but no one should ever compare the burned by-products of either of the two and imply that one is somehow better than the other when burned and inhaled.
 
2014-04-06 01:13:42 PM

yanoosh: bwilson27: yanoosh: We have known that smoking in general has been bad for us since the early 60s. How is it that smoking marijuana which is inhaled deeper, hotter, held longer and unfiltered any better than cigarettes? The thought of inhaling anything other than plain old clean air into your lungs is insane.

Right.
http://www.tricountycessation.org/tobaccofacts/Cigarette-Ingredients .h tml

If you think there is no tar in a joint you are deluding yourself. Has anyone done a similar study to see what other compounds are released, you can bet its more than THC.


Most casual pot smokers don't smoke a pack a day. Most that I know inhale significanly less than the equivalent of one cigarette a day, and not every day. Show me a job where I can duck out every hour or two and smoke a full cigarette-sized joint and be able to do the job, and I'll stay away from that company, because I doubt they are producing a product worth having.

/I like pot
//don't want to be stoned all the time
///a puff or two here and there is all I want
 
2014-04-06 01:15:23 PM

lewismarktwo: Whatchoo Talkinbout: Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.

That's fine because vaporizing it is way more efficient and leaves your lungs unmolested.


Have considered this option but know nothing about them. Is there
one you'd recommend. Thanks.
 
2014-04-06 01:18:01 PM

ElLoco: bwilson27: yanoosh: We have known that smoking in general has been bad for us since the early 60s. How is it that smoking marijuana which is inhaled deeper, hotter, held longer and unfiltered any better than cigarettes? The thought of inhaling anything other than plain old clean air into your lungs is insane.

Right.
http://www.tricountycessation.org/tobaccofacts/Cigarette-Ingredients .h tml

That's being a little bit disingenuous by not posting a link that also contains chemicals compounds produced by marijuana (without any additives at all, by the way.) Also, that part you bolded in the quote is by likely coincidence an almost identical quote from an article published by the Mayo Clinic from a study on the specific pros and cons of cigarette smoke versus marijuana smoke.

"Marijuana contains at least 60 chemicals called cannabinoids. Researchers are evaluating how effective some of these cannabinoids might be in controlling symptoms of certain medical conditions. For example:
THC. An abbreviation for delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, THC is the main component responsible for marijuana's mind-altering effect. It also may help treat signs and symptoms such as nausea and vomiting that are associated with a number of medical conditions.
Cannabinol and cannabidiol. These compounds have some of the properties of THC, but cause less psychoactive effects - the high. [...]
Also, marijuana smoke contains 50 percent to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke and has the potential to cause cancer of the lungs and respiratory tract. Marijuana smoke is commonly inhaled deeper and held longer than is tobacco smoke, increasing the lungs' exposure to carcinogens."

I'm not arguing pros and cons, and I favor legalization, but no one should ever compare the burned by-products of either of the two and imply that one is somehow better than the other when burned and inhaled.


If you can smoke as much pot as a cigarette smoker does tobacco, you're doin' it wrong. Or you have ditchweed.
 
2014-04-06 01:38:50 PM
Bourbonman:

/I like pot
//don't want to be stoned all the time
///a puff or two here and there is all I want

If you can have to smoke as much pot as a cigarette smoker does tobacco, you're doin' it ...


Me too and fixed.

/still likes my brownies better
//never tried a vape
///YES on 2
 
2014-04-06 01:43:51 PM

Chigroe Please: lewismarktwo: Whatchoo Talkinbout: Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.

That's fine because vaporizing it is way more efficient and leaves your lungs unmolested.

Have considered this option but know nothing about them. Is there
one you'd recommend. Thanks.


I would get a plug in desktop version with a bubbler (if you plan on vaping for extended periods) to start out.  Don't bother spending over $200ish.  'Da Buddha' is a good place to start. You don't need to have a digital temp control, but it's nice to not to have to worry about burning your vegetables.

You can also just buy a non asbestos heat gun, a test tube, faucet aerators, some turkey basting bags and a plumbing valve and cobble one together yourself.

As for the portable battery powered versions, it's too early to tell.  IMHO, you might as well go full stealth and use one designed for hash oil.  You can flavor those so that it smells like baking cookies.  They're also small enough to palm so you can avoid the anti-smoking nazi's wrath.  I love using mine in movie theaters.
 
2014-04-06 01:52:17 PM

ElLoco: bwilson27: yanoosh: We have known that smoking in general has been bad for us since the early 60s. How is it that smoking marijuana which is inhaled deeper, hotter, held longer and unfiltered any better than cigarettes? The thought of inhaling anything other than plain old clean air into your lungs is insane.

Right.
http://www.tricountycessation.org/tobaccofacts/Cigarette-Ingredients .h tml

That's being a little bit disingenuous by not posting a link that also contains chemicals compounds produced by marijuana (without any additives at all, by the way.) Also, that part you bolded in the quote is by likely coincidence an almost identical quote from an article published by the Mayo Clinic from a study on the specific pros and cons of cigarette smoke versus marijuana smoke.

"Marijuana contains at least 60 chemicals called cannabinoids. Researchers are evaluating how effective some of these cannabinoids might be in controlling symptoms of certain medical conditions. For example:
THC. An abbreviation for delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, THC is the main component responsible for marijuana's mind-altering effect. It also may help treat signs and symptoms such as nausea and vomiting that are associated with a number of medical conditions.
Cannabinol and cannabidiol. These compounds have some of the properties of THC, but cause less psychoactive effects - the high. [...]
Also, marijuana smoke contains 50 percent to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke and has the potential to cause cancer of the lungs and respiratory tract. Marijuana smoke is commonly inhaled deeper and held longer than is tobacco smoke, increasing the lungs' exposure to carcinogens."

I'm not arguing pros and cons, and I favor legalization, but no one should ever compare the burned by-products of either of the two and imply that one is somehow better than the other when burned and inhaled.


But how are the chemicals deduced as carcinogens? In their pure form they might pull a positive on the Ames test, but so do a bunch of chemicals in organic cabbage. In terms of practical exposure they exist in hormetic levels.
 
2014-04-06 01:54:37 PM
Big Marijuana $mell$ profits
 
2014-04-06 02:03:51 PM
Can't speak to percentages of current pop. of physicians.

Can tell you how the Congressional Committee hearing on the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 went, however.
The representative of the AMA (yes, it is still a useful medication and should remain on the shelf to be utilized at the physician's discretion) was told that his testimony wasn't worth a damn.

The primary witness was a former official from the defunct Bureau of Prohibition, Harold Anslinger, who did little more than review the litany of horror that had followed the repeal of Volstead and wove that warp into the woof of blacks/mexicans and the promise of the `impurification' of de white wimminz if the `marihuana' remained legal.  Anslinger remained the head of the FBN/FBNDD (forerunners of DEA) for the next 30+ years.  When all else failed to attract the funding J.E. Hoover was pulling down, Anslinger could burn a huge pile of hemp for some press & sympathy.

When the vote came up in the Senate, the Chair introduced it as "it's about some narcotic, or other".  One Senator asks if the legislation was approved by the AMA and, another (etoh prohibitionist) Senator assured him that the AMA was behind it 100%.

So, I'd guess about a 500 billion in tax dollars expended over the past 70+ years,  to suppress the plant (not counting LE/political corruption and the untaxed profits).  Yes, an attractive, annual, reseeding ornamental with mild intoxicant properties that a doc might want to recommend, on occasion.

/let the Martha Stewart cadre buy their equatorial Sativa seeds from Thompson and Morgan and they can spend tea time comparing the utility of their various cultivars on relieving their `feminine complaints'.
 
2014-04-06 02:06:20 PM
But how do they feel about gay marijuana?

http://www.eatliver.com/marijuana-equality/
 
2014-04-06 02:36:45 PM

Fano: The Gentleman Caller: We could just fully legalize it, old man subby.

Exactly. Let's stop the pretense of medicinal mj like medicinal alcohol.


They do have medicinal alcohol. They use it for glycol poisoning.
 
2014-04-06 02:49:04 PM

alice_600: b-maz: Never one for it,  I can't stand smoking anything really.   I do see the benefit.

Friend of mine had spells of nausea and wasn't eating enough.    Was popping Dimenhydrinate (Gravol) like candy and it didn't really help.   My doctor prescribed her medical marijuana.  Immediate increase in appetite, and nausea went away.

Biggest issue I have seen (At least in my home province) is that Newly trained Doctors aren't given any significant training or information about it.   The old guard of Doctors still think it's pseudoscience.

 A lot of it is, don't mean to judge but this sounds like she had an eating disorder she was hiding (Bulimia sufferer here) Women who get eating disorders get better on marijuana but that just masks the symptoms and doesn't get to the root of the cause. It's just a mask covering the symptoms and after a while the mask fades and the problems just get worse.


I would imagine someone with bulimia wouldn't willingly smoke pot, because they would be afraid of the munchies.  And if they did, they certainly wouldn't give in to the munchies.  If pot makes an eating disorder better, then it wasn't an eating disorder in the first place.

Not every skinny girl who isn't hungry is a girl with body image issues.
 
2014-04-06 02:51:01 PM

ReverendJynxed: Fano: The Gentleman Caller: We could just fully legalize it, old man subby.

Exactly. Let's stop the pretense of medicinal mj like medicinal alcohol.

They do have medicinal alcohol. They use it for glycol poisoning.


during prohibition you could get booze in a limited prescribed amount for all sorts of maladies. imagine if alcohol were still illegal but you could get two glasses of red wine a day for you "heart Problems."

Let's just admit we want to get high, and if alcohol and tobacco are legal there is no reason by cannabis should be illegal.

Alcohol and tobacco have killed hecatombs more in a decade than all illegal drugs combined over the last hundred years.
 
2014-04-06 02:55:02 PM
As an owner of a Ford C-Max plug-in hybrid, this is absolutely necessary.  We thought of it before the lawmakers did - this car is absolutely silent.  I've been driving it for almost a year now, and I still think the engine is dead and the car is just rolling from gravity when I drive it.

The biggest danger of the silence that we found was in parking lots.  Yes, people can look and see that the car is moving backwards, or that the white reverse lights are on, but the sound of the engine is pretty important too, considering how crazy some parking lots can get.  If a person isn't looking directly at the car they are passing, they won't see those lights or the movement, and the only thing they have to rely on is hearing the engine in reverse.  On several occasions, people have blindly walked in the path of our car, while it is moving, simply because they can't hear it and they weren't looking at it.

So we installed a back up beeper on the C-Max, and now it sounds like a garbage truck when it backs up.
 
2014-04-06 02:56:24 PM
I say, this appears to be the wrong thread!
 
2014-04-06 03:03:28 PM
I live 3 blocks from the beach, in a very high foot traffic area, 2 doors down from a cannabis dispensary. Often, I sit in front of my house, drinking coffee and people watching. I see all kinds of people, from every walk of life, walk into that dispensary. Young couples, middle-age moms, professionals, stoners, athletic types, etc. According to the US government, all of these people are criminals.
 
2014-04-06 03:15:21 PM
More doctors than consumers support the legalisation of medical marijuana.

The survey of more than 1 500 doctors and nearly 3 000 consumers found that 69% of doctors said medical marijuana can help with certain conditions and treatments. Only 52% of consumers expressed that same belief.

So 1035 doctors support it and 1560 consumers support it.  Yup, that sounds like more doctors than consumers.

Your math sucks.  Or your English.  Or both.
 
2014-04-06 03:32:35 PM

moeburn: I say, this appears to be the wrong thread!


But that's OK, and I know why...
Because you were high.
Because you were high.
Because you were high.
 
2014-04-06 03:35:51 PM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: I live 3 blocks from the beach, in a very high foot traffic area, 2 doors down from a cannabis dispensary. Often, I sit in front of my house, drinking coffee and people watching. I see all kinds of people, from every walk of life, walk into that dispensary. Young couples, middle-age moms, professionals, stoners, athletic types, etc. According to the US government, all of these people are criminals.


You can say the same thing about thieves, murderers and sex offenders. It takes all types to be dumb. But in all honesty a drug taken because you want it or you think solves a problem does not solve any thing. It makes matters worse. You guys just aren't ready yet to believe the truth.
 
2014-04-06 03:57:07 PM
moeburn:
I would imagine someone with bulimia wouldn't willingly smoke pot, because they would be afraid of the munchies.  And if they did, they certainly wouldn't give in to the munchies.  If pot makes an eating disorder better, then it wasn't an eating disorder in the first place.

Not every skinny girl who isn't hungry is a girl with body image issues.


I though bulimics ate, but brought it back up.  Maybe you're thinking of anorexia?
 
2014-04-06 04:39:04 PM

alice_600: OOBE Juan Kenobi: I live 3 blocks from the beach, in a very high foot traffic area, 2 doors down from a cannabis dispensary. Often, I sit in front of my house, drinking coffee and people watching. I see all kinds of people, from every walk of life, walk into that dispensary. Young couples, middle-age moms, professionals, stoners, athletic types, etc. According to the US government, all of these people are criminals.

You can say the same thing about thieves, murderers and sex offenders. It takes all types to be dumb. But in all honesty a drug taken because you want it or you think solves a problem does not solve any thing. It makes matters worse. You guys just aren't ready yet to believe the truth.


You sure are certain that 'a drug taken because you want it or you think solves a problem does not solve anything', aren't you?  You care to explain how my smoking weed doesn't calm my over-active thoughts down so I can actually make progress on my creative projects, when I very goddamn well know it does?  You care to explain how it doesn't solve boredom by making it easier for me to enjoy stuff, when I very goddamn well know it does?  You care to explain how it doesn't doesn't make my woman happier because I get horny enough to screw her four times a night, when I very goddamn well know it does?  Just shut your dumbass mouth, man.  You literally don't know what the hell you're talking about in any capacity at all.
 
2014-04-06 05:01:00 PM

alice_600: OOBE Juan Kenobi: I live 3 blocks from the beach, in a very high foot traffic area, 2 doors down from a cannabis dispensary. Often, I sit in front of my house, drinking coffee and people watching. I see all kinds of people, from every walk of life, walk into that dispensary. Young couples, middle-age moms, professionals, stoners, athletic types, etc. According to the US government, all of these people are criminals.

You can say the same thing about thieves, murderers and sex offenders. It takes all types to be dumb. But in all honesty a drug taken because you want it or you think solves a problem does not solve any thing. It makes matters worse. You guys just aren't ready yet to believe the truth.


Hormones/neurohormones/neurotransmitters are `drugs.  So, we should have a law that prevents broadcast TV shows that promise sex/violence/both - just before the commercial break in order to tweak the viewer's stress hormones (make them more attentive) AND jack the TV volume so the viewer will hear & remember the product?  No extreme sports as those increase adrenaline/cortisol(s).  No sex?  Testosterone & Oxytocin in particular, being probably the `drugs' humans are exposed to that possess the greatest potential for harm - and the `just say no' program for those has worked out oh, so, well.

Any citizen who consciously decides some `agent' is doing them good by doing them in (or for any other reason)?  And that citizen isn't exposing their fellows to the direct consequences of that choice?  Well, spending tax dollars to subsidize the enforcement of what shouldn't go beyond being a personal religious choice, is in itself, an immoral expenditure.

But I know that has never stopped any flavor of .. as maintaining a high level of ignorance allows those abusers of their intellects to keep the stress hormones at bay, dosing themselves with dumb until they can feel comfortable in their concern....
blogs.houstonpress.com
 
2014-04-06 05:10:57 PM

lewismarktwo: Chigroe Please: lewismarktwo: Whatchoo Talkinbout: Legalize all you want, you won't be able to smoke it ANYWHERE. Smoking Nazis are about.

That's fine because vaporizing it is way more efficient and leaves your lungs unmolested.

Have considered this option but know nothing about them. Is there
one you'd recommend. Thanks.

I would get a plug in desktop version with a bubbler (if you plan on vaping for extended periods) to start out.  Don't bother spending over $200ish.  'Da Buddha' is a good place to start. You don't need to have a digital temp control, but it's nice to not to have to worry about burning your vegetables.

You can also just buy a non asbestos heat gun, a test tube, faucet aerators, some turkey basting bags and a plumbing valve and cobble one together yourself.

As for the portable battery powered versions, it's too early to tell.  IMHO, you might as well go full stealth and use one designed for hash oil.  You can flavor those so that it smells like baking cookies.  They're also small enough to palm so you can avoid the anti-smoking nazi's wrath.  I love using mine in movie theaters.


Thanks for the tip. DBV looks very nice with cool add ons. And the 80 - 90% reduction in tar and carcinogens is great along with saving of the veggies.
 
2014-04-06 07:44:59 PM

DigitalCoffee: moeburn: I say, this appears to be the wrong thread!

But that's OK, and I know why...
Because you were high.
Because you were high.
Because you were high.


I lol'ed

/La da da da da da da da da
 
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