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(NBC San Diego)   Strip Club files lawsuit against San Diego Police Department, asks for punitive damages to be paid in $1 bills   (nbcsandiego.com) divider line 33
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2014-04-05 04:30:47 PM
And don't forget some quarters for the jukebox.
 
2014-04-05 04:31:54 PM
Is rather the offending police be sued personally
 
2014-04-05 04:48:19 PM
Slut shaming sanctioned by the state.  LOVE IT!!!
 
2014-04-05 04:58:05 PM
Adult dancers often change their appearances, so documenting tattoos are critical to help them verify a person's identity or prove that they're giving false information, Mayer had said.

If they haven't been convicted of a crime, why document tattoos?

Go arrest some firemen or something.

// papers please
 
2014-04-05 04:58:45 PM
Needing to have a permit to be a stripper is stupid in the first place.
 
2014-04-05 05:01:07 PM
FTFA: The officers were checking the women's permits - which they legally have to update every year to continue working.

Permits?? Seriously?
 
2014-04-05 05:04:00 PM

lordargent: If they haven't been convicted of a crime, why document tattoos?


That is a good question. One that should be asked of the city council, licensing board, mayor, and chief of police. They are the ones who come up with the licensing and ID verification requirements, not the street officers. If photographing tattoos is indeed part of the approved SOP, than it just sucks to be the dancers I guess. Don't get tattoos right above your vag if you know that you have to get them verified once a year.


I would be curious about what camera they used, where the photos go, and who has access to the memory card. If in the course of the law suit any officers are found with evidentiary photos on their personal phones, fire them.
 
2014-04-05 05:06:16 PM

CruJones: Needing to have a permit to be a stripper is stupid in the first place.


Gunboat: FTFA: The officers were checking the women's permits - which they legally have to update every year to continue working.

Permits?? Seriously?


Unfortunately, we gave in long ago and told the government it was OK to force us to ask permission and pay them to do something we have the right to do on our own. Now they just apply that to more and more things. Government will always be government. We should have known better.
 
2014-04-05 05:06:37 PM

Gunboat: FTFA: The officers were checking the women's permits - which they legally have to update every year to continue working.

Permits?? Seriously?


Remember, this is California we're talking about.
 
2014-04-05 05:09:54 PM

lordargent: Adult dancers often change their appearances, so documenting tattoos are critical to help them verify a person's identity or prove that they're giving false information, Mayer had said.

If they haven't been convicted of a crime, why document tattoos?

Go arrest some firemen or something.

// papers please


Documenting scars, marks and tats is standard police procedure for people taken into custody.

I haven't rtfa yet, but convictions are not something that comes before taking biographical and biometric data.
 
2014-04-05 05:13:47 PM

LessO2: Gunboat: FTFA: The officers were checking the women's permits - which they legally have to update every year to continue working.

Permits?? Seriously?

Remember, this is California we're talking about.


While it is likely that the police had no interest beyond checking out the strippers' bodies, I am torn on maintaining a higher degree of police checks on the sex industry.

How much stripper business hurdle is worth it to reduce the success of white slavery? Regular identity checks and licensing seem acceptable to me.
 
2014-04-05 05:17:07 PM
The Atlanta Police Department could take lessons on how it's done. They just go around bullying gay bars on some erroneous tip that there are bj's being given openly. They held the staff and patrons on the floor at gun point for over an hour and came away with nothing except a few joints. However, the gays ended up suing the shiat out of them and won.
 
2014-04-05 05:20:12 PM
$1 bills?  I think this is at least equivalent of a dance--my impression is that the usual rate there is something like $20.
 
2014-04-05 05:22:14 PM

Loren: $1 bills?  I think this is at least equivalent of a dance--my impression is that the usual rate there is something like $20.


That was my impression, too.

/a friend told me.
// no, really.
/// really.  :/
 
2014-04-05 05:32:40 PM
Meh that place is pretty well known as a handjob Mecca....still don't see the justification for the rousting tho
 
2014-04-05 05:56:33 PM
Police harass the poor.

Now they are getting sued,

Good

fark the police.
 
2014-04-05 06:12:01 PM
not under arrest, something about the tattoos being able to prove who they are ... how about you look her in the eyes and ask her name, and then check her ID and SS card?  Not enough? Too damn bad; set up your ultra nationalist rules and regs somewhere else.  This is still the land of the free, we just need to stand up and take it back from the assholes in charge ... who we  .. keep .. putting  .. back ... in power.  For some reason.
 
2014-04-05 07:58:36 PM

Smackledorfer: Regular identity checks and licensing seem acceptable to me.


Fine.  Then go in, ask to see some ID and the permit, then leave.  For the ones who lack the proper permit, issue a citation.  It is NOT a farking criminal matter.  And there is no legal grounds for holding them against their will, forcing them to strip (without payment), and taking pictures.
 
2014-04-05 09:05:43 PM
Can't get enough tattooed stripper pics on the net?
 
2014-04-05 09:15:55 PM

lordargent: Adult dancers often change their appearances, so documenting tattoos are critical to help them verify a person's identity or prove that they're giving false information, Mayer had said.

If they haven't been convicted of a crime, why document tattoos?

Go arrest some firemen or something.

// papers please


I absolutely agree. The cops don't come out and take a picture of your ass tattoo because it makes it easier for them to verify who you are when they pull you over for speeding.

I don't see how this should be any different.

So, yeah I support the strippers here. The cops are basically being sexist assholes and probably outright harassing these women because of reasons.

Whatever happened to equal protection?
 
2014-04-05 09:18:35 PM
Ah San Diego. Where the cops will stomp you under their boot heel for the vaguest hint of sexual impropriety. And yet the politicians are routinely found to be corrupt.

Look up the San Diego Seven. Yeah. This shiat is just more of the same.

Farking military city.
 
2014-04-05 09:29:39 PM

Dangl1ng: Ah San Diego. Where the cops will stomp you under their boot heel for the vaguest hint of sexual impropriety. And yet the politicians are routinely found to be corrupt.

Look up the San Diego Seven. Yeah. This shiat is just more of the same.

Farking military city.


San Diego and San Jose have been in a race to have the largest militarized police in an affluent city for a long time. Lots of bored cops means lots of hassled regular people. San Jose might lose for good, with the new requirements of cameras on officers, unless the city comes up with even more regulations to find someone in violation of.
 
2014-04-05 10:55:37 PM

Trance354: not under arrest, something about the tattoos being able to prove who they are ... how about you look her in the eyes and ask her name, and then check her ID and SS card?  Not enough? Too damn bad; set up your ultra nationalist rules and regs somewhere else.  This is still the land of the free, we just need to stand up and take it back from the assholes in charge ... who we  .. keep .. putting  .. back ... in power.  For some reason.


It's a strip club, so the reason is most likely "because Jesus."
 
2014-04-05 10:57:19 PM

OgreMagi: Smackledorfer: Regular identity checks and licensing seem acceptable to me.

Fine.  Then go in, ask to see some ID and the permit, then leave.  For the ones who lack the proper permit, issue a citation.  It is NOT a farking criminal matter.  And there is no legal grounds for holding them against their will, forcing them to strip (without payment), and taking pictures.


Oh look, an Ogremagi post where he pulls a portion of a comment away from the rest then argues with a man of straw of his own creation.

In no way, shape, or form did I recommend or defend forcing striptease on the women or men in this industry. I even explicitly say in this thread that I believe it is likely the strippers' complaint is valid and that the cops just did it to ogle them.

Wtf is wrong with you, man?
 
2014-04-05 11:46:05 PM
"Attorney Dan Gilleon, who filed the claim on behalf of the women, said the alleged victims suffered emotional distress, humiliation and loss of income from the raid."

I'm calling BS on the first 2...they're strippers...and in most cities there's more going on in the VIP than just a lap dance.  The real issue is the loss of income.
 
2014-04-06 01:33:49 AM

slayer199: "Attorney Dan Gilleon, who filed the claim on behalf of the women, said the alleged victims suffered emotional distress, humiliation and loss of income from the raid."

I'm calling BS on the first 2...they're strippers...and in most cities there's more going on in the VIP than just a lap dance.  The real issue is the loss of income.


The emotional distress and humiliation isn't necessarily over being forced to strip.  It could be the process of being treated as a criminal or being forced to submit to the idiot cops.
 
2014-04-06 01:44:32 AM

Dangl1ng: Ah San Diego. Where the cops will stomp you under their boot heel for the vaguest hint of sexual impropriety. And yet the politicians are routinely found to be corrupt.

Look up the San Diego Seven. Yeah. This shiat is just more of the same.

Farking military city.


foxyshadis: Dangl1ng: Ah San Diego. Where the cops will stomp you under their boot heel for the vaguest hint of sexual impropriety. And yet the politicians are routinely found to be corrupt.

Look up the San Diego Seven. Yeah. This shiat is just more of the same.

Farking military city.

San Diego and San Jose have been in a race to have the largest militarized police in an affluent city for a long time. Lots of bored cops means lots of hassled regular people. San Jose might lose for good, with the new requirements of cameras on officers, unless the city comes up with even more regulations to find someone in violation of.


yes san diego is such a horrible city.  Please stay away from this atrocity.
 
2014-04-06 01:52:57 AM

OgreMagi: The emotional distress and humiliation isn't necessarily over being forced to strip. It could be the process of being treated as a criminal or being forced to submit to the idiot cops.


The point I was making is how much more humiliating is it to bare your body for money vs baring your body for the cops ostensibly so they can take photographs of your tattoos.  Take the money out of the equation and then it's humiliating and emotionally distressful.  If the cops were visiting the club off-duty and making it rain, these women would have no issue.

The bottom line is that if these women were out of commission (not dancing for tips/no VIP trips), they lost income.
 
2014-04-06 02:47:16 AM

Smackledorfer: LessO2: Gunboat: FTFA: The officers were checking the women's permits - which they legally have to update every year to continue working.

Permits?? Seriously?

Remember, this is California we're talking about.

While it is likely that the police had no interest beyond checking out the strippers' bodies, I am torn on maintaining a higher degree of police checks on the sex industry.

How much stripper business hurdle is worth it to reduce the success of white slavery? Regular identity checks and licensing seem acceptable to me.


White slavery? Really? Get serious.
 
2014-04-06 02:18:02 PM

propasaurus: Smackledorfer: LessO2: Gunboat: FTFA: The officers were checking the women's permits - which they legally have to update every year to continue working.

Permits?? Seriously?

Remember, this is California we're talking about.

While it is likely that the police had no interest beyond checking out the strippers' bodies, I am torn on maintaining a higher degree of police checks on the sex industry.

How much stripper business hurdle is worth it to reduce the success of white slavery? Regular identity checks and licensing seem acceptable to me.

White slavery? Really? Get serious.


How is that not serious? You don't think when a person is made dependent on a pimp or similar person and forced to commit sex acts against her will that it's slavery?
 
2014-04-06 02:57:27 PM

propasaurus: White slavery? Really? Get serious.


What isn't serious about immigrants being forced to work as virtual sex-slaves at seedy strip clubs until their family meets the exorbitant payment requirements (requirements that often go up as previous requirements are nearly met, such that the family can never pay its way out) of the smuggling/sex trading organization?


But fark it, we shouldn't have any oversight in the sex industry because the one stripper/hooker who is acting completely of her own free will and treated great will have her freedoms hampered.  The rest of them should just, I don't know, have made better decisions.  They bought their ticket and knew what they were getting into. I say let em crash.

Not to mention underage girls getting sucked into, and subsequently trapped, in the industry.


I am nothing but serious when it comes to human trafficking.  You should be farking ashamed of yourself.
 
2014-04-06 03:48:12 PM

Smackledorfer: propasaurus: White slavery? Really? Get serious.

What isn't serious about immigrants being forced to work as virtual sex-slaves at seedy strip clubs until their family meets the exorbitant payment requirements (requirements that often go up as previous requirements are nearly met, such that the family can never pay its way out) of the smuggling/sex trading organization?


But fark it, we shouldn't have any oversight in the sex industry because the one stripper/hooker who is acting completely of her own free will and treated great will have her freedoms hampered.  The rest of them should just, I don't know, have made better decisions.  They bought their ticket and knew what they were getting into. I say let em crash.

Not to mention underage girls getting sucked into, and subsequently trapped, in the industry.


I am nothing but serious when it comes to human trafficking.  You should be farking ashamed of yourself.


So is it yellow slavery if it's some Laotian girl?  or is that just regular slavery?

Human trafficking is indeed the preferred nomeclature.
 
2014-04-07 02:27:14 AM

Bonzo_1116: So is it yellow slavery if it's some Laotian girl?  or is that just regular slavery?

Human trafficking is indeed the preferred nomeclature.


Uhhh. No. The trafficking is when they are being illegally moved from one location, such as their home country, to another. It becomes slavery once they are stuck somewhere and forced into sexual servitude in order to stay alive.
 
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