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2014-04-05 02:57:06 PM

tjsands1118: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Most of the Tea Party is in favor of legal pot.  It's the old-line conservatives led by Boner that are funded by the big drug companies and the prison industry that violently oppose legalization.

Not to mention the last Libertarian Presidential nominee was Gary Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico, who admitted to using marijuana illegally for medical propose. He also help spearhead the NM medical marijuana program.


We've had three Presidents in a row who admitted to using drugs, and it didn't ruin their lives. Maybe the same consideration can be shown to the rest of us, right?
 
2014-04-05 02:57:28 PM

StrikitRich: Getting marijuana on the ballot is the Democrats plan to get young voters to turn out in the mid-term elections


But wouldn't all the stoners forget to vote and the old people would be more resolute about voting conservative? I think this line of thinking may back fire.
 
GBB [TotalFark]
2014-04-05 02:57:35 PM
It all comes down to marketing and presentation.

The reason why legalizing marijuana is so difficult is because of public perception.  It was never made illegal because it was harmful.  It was made illegal the same way alcohol was made illegal: because of the way people behaved while using it.  In the 20's, boozehounds were annoying as fark and the straights couldn't stand it.  Sure, you'll blame taxes as a financial motivation, and moonshine as a health concern.  But, it really comes down to flappers and drunks.  The only reason prohibition was repealed was because the behavior caused by prohibition was worse that before prohibition.  Look at how they regulated the shait out of it after repeal.

The stoners are basically causing the straights to freak out and the way they act override any health benefits that it actually provides.  Same with oxycontin.  It has legitimate uses, but once people start abusing it, selling it, and create a counter-culture around it, it gets shut down.

So, if anyone ever wants this "movement" to move along any faster, I would suggest finding a way to tone down the stoner attitude surrounding the issue.  Cheech & Chong, Harold & Kumar, and Jay & Silent Bob are not going to help anyone understand that marijuana helps chemo patients with their appetites.  And, no one is going to believe a legitimate drug comes in "flavors" like "Super Cush" and "Raspberry Delight" or requires a glass device in the shape of a naked dragon-woman hybrid to administer.

Sure, these things shouldn't matter, but they do.  You have the unfortunate task of convincing the squares that this stuff they hate and don't understand is harmless and has actual benefits.  Don't make your job harder.  Wise up a little.  Clean up the image, and I'll bet this would go a lot smoother and faster.
 
2014-04-05 02:59:52 PM
www.lapthorn.org
 
2014-04-05 03:00:32 PM

Boojum2k: We've had three Presidents in a row who admitted to using drugs, and it didn't ruin their lives. Maybe the same consideration can be shown to the rest of us, right?


We don't know that. If Bush Jr had laid off the junk he may have gone into applied sciences instead of politics and perfected cold fusion.
 
2014-04-05 03:01:40 PM

sendtodave: JSTACAT: Forked Tongues:

Such as; halfway back on the 15 mile hike down the mountainside, just before sundown.., dude! did we put out the fire completely? i smell smoke!

--You're high right now, aren't you?


What you mean high?
I don't need drugs, my body makes far better ones than plants or chemists.
Right now i am tripping on a pleasant, exhilarating mix of Adrenaline, Testosterone, dopamine, and oxytocin;
all naturally produced from the large bird i just ate.
Yeah, i am 8 miles off the earth, but its just a side effect of clean living and hard work in the field.

 When the politicians and govt got involved with pot, it took the fun right out of it.
fortunately, i have long ago outgrown the desire for external crutches, it is no loss or gain to me.
Its just a weird kabuki dance that i am watching...

I'm waiting for the main dancer to appear..
in full regalia, as befits our Fearless CMDR in Chief

img.fark.net
Dance Bro, Lead the Dance for us!
 
2014-04-05 03:02:12 PM

Boojum2k: We've had three Presidents in a row who admitted to using drugs, and it didn't ruin their lives. Maybe the same consideration can be shown to the rest of us, right?


Don't you get it? They're rich. That makes them better than the rest of us. Laws are for poor people.
 
2014-04-05 03:05:54 PM

meow said the dog: [i.imgur.com image 850x1164]


They forgot to add the painful bowel movements after spending the day digesting nothing but cheetos, taco bell, and mountain dew.

/for some reason it always gives me a severe urge to eat an insane amount of chocolate. especially milkshakes
/trying to incorporate healthy munchies instead
 
2014-04-05 03:06:35 PM

GBB: It all comes down to marketing and presentation.


That couldn't hurt, and it certainly seems sensible.

However, I'd like to see the topic turn more towards personal freedom. As a society, have we learned nothing? Must we throw people into prison--at great cost to society and also thereby destroying their lives--simply because they're smoking pot?

IMHO, those questions should easily suffice as incentive for legalization. This should be a legislative "no brainer"... It'll be interesting to see who the authoritarians are, and what their pathetic excuses will be.
 
2014-04-05 03:06:50 PM

wyltoknow: meow said the dog: [i.imgur.com image 850x1164]

They forgot to add the painful bowel movements after spending the day digesting nothing but cheetos, taco bell, and mountain dew.

/for some reason it always gives me a severe urge to eat an insane amount of chocolate. especially milkshakes
/trying to incorporate healthy munchies instead


I like Mott's granny smith flavored apple sauce, myself. And key lime flavored yogurt.
 
2014-04-05 03:08:13 PM
Anybody that reads or watches a story about "Charlotte's Web" and doesn't support this is 100% an asshole.
 
2014-04-05 03:09:17 PM

GBB: The reason why legalizing marijuana is so difficult is because of public perception.  It was never made illegal because it was harmful.  It was made illegal the same way alcohol was made illegal: because of the way people behaved while using it


Except you only hear about the assholes. No one ever hears about the stoners who smoke after work but you would never know they were stoners, of which I know a few myself.
 
2014-04-05 03:10:48 PM

BravadoGT: Obama's wrong about this.  The law allows the AG to reclassify it to another category without Congressional approval.

So why is he dragging Congress into it?  He has more legal authority to re-schedule pot than, say, extending the deadline for Obamacare or arbitrarily granting exemptions to it.



The "won't you think of the children, puppies, prison industry" lobby would impeach him over it.

Not that they have anything to impeach him with, but they'd go through the motions anyhow, just to waste time and money.
 
2014-04-05 03:11:49 PM

Pimparoo: Anybody that reads or watches a story about "Charlotte's Web" and doesn't support this is 100% an asshole.


I want to get a hold of that stuff.  I hate the feeling of being high, can't concentrate, can't do anything right, but I love the way weed smells and taste.  Some good CO Farker told me the strain is awesome, zero psychedelic effects.
 
2014-04-05 03:12:21 PM

GBB: It was never made illegal because it was harmful.  It was made illegal the same way alcohol was made illegal: because of the way people behaved while using it.


Yeah, people became all Mexican when they smoked weed, and congress was looking for a way to deport all those mexicans.

Ever wonder where the "lazy mexican" stereotype came from?  The war on drugs.
 
2014-04-05 03:13:23 PM

Destructor: Must we throw people into prison--at great cost to society and also thereby destroying their lives--simply because they're smoking pot?


It's amazing that you can get sent up and as you said, depending on your job, have your life destroyed for smoking weed in one state, cross a line on a map within our same country and you're cool. It's really rather insane.
 
2014-04-05 03:14:10 PM

meow said the dog: [i.imgur.com image 850x1164]


That chart is interesting, and partially correct;
When i inhaled, i felt like a big pillow was stuffed into my head, instantaneously, i resisted and used a different part of my mind to assert control; medically described as aggression.
It is a form of emergency enlightenment, so that viability and self control is not lost.
Good exercise, it develops a certain mental muscle;
but, sadly too many people succumb to the narcotic, get fat, dumb, lazy, and learn nothing.

The whole idea in this exercise is to subjugate the drug, using the WILL.
Well for me;
its all about ME y' understand?
Subjugationimg.fark.net
That's my Thing
 
2014-04-05 03:16:15 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Most of the Tea Party is in favor of legal pot.  It's the old-line conservatives led by Boner that are funded by the big drug companies and the prison industry that violently oppose legalization.


Wrong. 38% of tea partiers support legal mmj. Which is higher than the 27% support amongst mainstream Republicans. But not "most"
 
2014-04-05 03:17:14 PM
If they legalize pot, some businesses will lose customers.
www.afsc.org
 
2014-04-05 03:18:17 PM
Might as well say that Obama seeks to travel faster than light. he jsut needed the laws of physics to alter themselves to make it possible using only a Ford Pinto.
 
2014-04-05 03:22:51 PM

efgeise: BravadoGT: Obama's wrong about this.  The law allows the AG to reclassify it to another category without Congressional approval.

So why is he dragging Congress into it?  He has more legal authority to re-schedule pot than, say, extending the deadline for Obamacare or arbitrarily granting exemptions to it.

He is probably hoping to use House GOP obstructionist objectives to swing the Libertarian vote towards Dems in the midterms. It's a smart move, from a political strategy standpoint.


ahh...the "politics of old" he was going to lead us away from.....
 
2014-04-05 03:27:41 PM

LeroyBourne: Pimparoo: Anybody that reads or watches a story about "Charlotte's Web" and doesn't support this is 100% an asshole.

I want to get a hold of that stuff.  I hate the feeling of being high, can't concentrate, can't do anything right, but I love the way weed smells and taste.  Some good CO Farker told me the strain is awesome, zero psychedelic effects.


You should probably just chew stems for the taste without getting high, and leave the medicine supplies for the kids with epilepsy.
 
2014-04-05 03:32:46 PM

LeroyBourne: Pimparoo: Anybody that reads or watches a story about "Charlotte's Web" and doesn't support this is 100% an asshole.

I want to get a hold of that stuff.  I hate the feeling of being high, can't concentrate, can't do anything right, but I love the way weed smells and taste.  Some good CO Farker told me the strain is awesome, zero psychedelic effects.


Back in the eighties a local entrepreneur went north to Kansas and came back with Hefty bags full of the most beautiful, skunky, albeit worthless, ditch weed buds. A few buddies and I pitched in and bought an ounce. What a disappointment that was.
 
2014-04-05 03:36:52 PM

GBB: It all comes down to marketing and presentation.

The reason why legalizing marijuana is so difficult is because of public perception.  It was never made illegal because it was harmful.  It was made illegal the same way alcohol was made illegal: because of the way people behaved while using it.  In the 20's, boozehounds were annoying as fark and the straights couldn't stand it.  Sure, you'll blame taxes as a financial motivation, and moonshine as a health concern.  But, it really comes down to flappers and drunks.  The only reason prohibition was repealed was because the behavior caused by prohibition was worse that before prohibition.  Look at how they regulated the shait out of it after repeal.

The stoners are basically causing the straights to freak out and the way they act override any health benefits that it actually provides.  Same with oxycontin.  It has legitimate uses, but once people start abusing it, selling it, and create a counter-culture around it, it gets shut down.

So, if anyone ever wants this "movement" to move along any faster, I would suggest finding a way to tone down the stoner attitude surrounding the issue.  Cheech & Chong, Harold & Kumar, and Jay & Silent Bob are not going to help anyone understand that marijuana helps chemo patients with their appetites.  And, no one is going to believe a legitimate drug comes in "flavors" like "Super Cush" and "Raspberry Delight" or requires a glass device in the shape of a naked dragon-woman hybrid to administer.

Sure, these things shouldn't matter, but they do.  You have the unfortunate task of convincing the squares that this stuff they hate and don't understand is harmless and has actual benefits.  Don't make your job harder.  Wise up a little.  Clean up the image, and I'll bet this would go a lot smoother and faster.


It won't matter how it's marketed and presented when the people against it fall back ok those stereotypes regardless.

Marijuana eases the pain of chemo. "Haha stupid stoners!"

Marijuana helps epileptic seizures. "Got the munchies stoner?"

It doesn't matter how you market the legalization movement, the anti-legalization people are going to argue against it based on their preconceived notions concerning "stoners".
 
2014-04-05 03:37:17 PM
FTA:
"Strangely, DEA chief Michele Leonhart has been making bizarre statements about weed this week.
First she said that voters in Colorado and Washington were essentially coerced into voting to legalize recreational pot. She also said that Mexican drug cartels were infiltrating those states to prepare to sell marijuana at prices cheaper than one could find at a legal retailer.

Then she stated that people should be concerned about legalization because dogs were getting stoned and sick in Colorado as a result of that state's new recreational-pot sales.
One has to wonder, after the president has said he believes alcohol is more dangerous that weed, how long Leonhart is going to last in this Obama administration."

Looks like she has been testing it herself...
She needs to USE HER WILL, and dominate her toker high, so she can figger it out.

When it is completely legal, and the govt totally Ignores it.
Pretty much everyone else will do the same.

did our leaders smoke their way thru college?
Reverse psychology [i thought everyone over age 15 knew about that]
how does it werk?
 
2014-04-05 03:40:46 PM

Pimparoo: LeroyBourne: Pimparoo: Anybody that reads or watches a story about "Charlotte's Web" and doesn't support this is 100% an asshole.

I want to get a hold of that stuff.  I hate the feeling of being high, can't concentrate, can't do anything right, but I love the way weed smells and taste.  Some good CO Farker told me the strain is awesome, zero psychedelic effects.

You should probably just chew stems for the taste without getting high, and leave the medicine supplies for the kids with epilepsy.


My goodness, the CO Farker that told me about the strain didn't indicate he had epilepsy, just that he was an aficionado of weed.  Lil bistid smoking all the medicine supplies.  Seriously, chill.  That's the great thing about all strains of weed, just grow more and more.  Enough for all.
 
2014-04-05 03:42:14 PM

JSTACAT: Strangely, DEA chief Michele Leonhart has been making bizarre statements about weed this week.
First she said that voters in Colorado and Washington were essentially coerced into voting to legalize recreational pot. She also said that Mexican drug cartels were infiltrating those states to prepare to sell marijuana at prices cheaper than one could find at a legal retailer.


It's not that hard to understand. Put yourself in her shoes. Here you are, doing your job. It's a hard and thankless job... And then, without warning, CO and WA literally flip you the bird... And now there's talk that all the "good" you've done is actually "evil". How could that possibly be?

The loss of public support against marijuana has got to be driving the anti-drug people insane. If only there was some way they could take the edge off...
 
2014-04-05 03:43:41 PM
Basically, the executive branch is sitting on its hands and not doing something purely out of politics.

Is this part of 'hope and change' or 'change we can believe in'?
 
2014-04-05 03:50:27 PM
I'm high right now, so I'm getting a kick out of this awesome wax I just made.
 
2014-04-05 04:01:15 PM

Destructor: JSTACAT: Strangely, DEA chief Michele Leonhart has been making bizarre statements about weed this week.
First she said that voters in Colorado and Washington were essentially coerced into voting to legalize recreational pot. She also said that Mexican drug cartels were infiltrating those states to prepare to sell marijuana at prices cheaper than one could find at a legal retailer.

It's not that hard to understand. Put yourself in her shoes. Here you are, doing your job. It's a hard and thankless job... And then, without warning, CO and WA literally flip you the bird... And now there's talk that all the "good" you've done is actually "evil". How could that possibly be?

The loss of public support against marijuana has got to be driving the anti-drug people insane. If only there was some way they could take the edge off...


It is very hard to believe that she & others are really that confused about the issue. Sociology 101 should have shown them the right way to deal with this.
 It isn't a surprise to them, this pot has been cooking for a long time, years...

I personally oppose drug dependence,
so how do we pull the pacifier away from the infant's mouth in society?
Violence wont work.
Psychology works better,
Natural instincts are superior

when the noise and pressure from govt is taken away,
other signals and logic can be detected by the infantile brains.
They will soon become tired of infancy, impotence, laziness, lack of accomplishment, etc.
 The pacifier will be abandoned without fuss, for better toys, and finally, the toys abandoned for the real stuff of life.

Managing society is a lot like managing a child whom you want to grow up, think and do for themselves.

Could it be that we are governed by infantile brains?
I really wonder.
 
2014-04-05 04:18:45 PM

Kevin Lomax: hubiestubert: BravadoGT: Obama's wrong about this.  The law allows the AG to reclassify it to another category without Congressional approval.

So why is he dragging Congress into it?  He has more legal authority to re-schedule pot than, say, extending the deadline for Obamacare or arbitrarily granting exemptions to it.

To nail down specific Congresscritters on their vote. It's called strategy. You get a vote that will cast these strong, freedom loving, Libertarian loving souls voting against something that they claim to support. I will not be surprised if the House tries to bury their turn on this.

Yes, petty politics, awesome.

Requiring Congressional approval is the surest way to get nothing to happen.


...and to nail down folks who keep making noises about how Libertarian they are. Well except for this. Or that. Or privacy issues. Or a dozen other things. It's about making folks actually vote, as opposed to talking around the issue.
 
2014-04-05 04:23:48 PM
Believe it or not, fascistmitter, the President cannot simply do whatever he wants.
 
2014-04-05 04:30:51 PM

meow said the dog: [i.imgur.com image 850x1164]


Bad dog!  Go outside to vomit.
 
2014-04-05 04:31:13 PM
Smeggy Smurf,
Fartbongo will have the support of the libertarians in this.


You may find that some of the core beliefs of people that associate themselves with the libertarian party have shifted since about 2008.

Link
Many fewer briefly tempting and left wing, lots more consistent, too smart for science.
 
2014-04-05 04:31:27 PM

Destructor: The loss of public support against marijuana has got to be driving the anti-drug people insane. If only there was some way they could take the edge off...


There are still plenty of drugs to fight, still plenty of money to be made in the drug war. They just have to get off the silly slippery slope notion that legalizing weed will somehow lead to meth being sold next to the Tylenol at the Circle K.
 
2014-04-05 04:32:38 PM
Funny, it didn't require Congressional approval to reschedule Hydrocodone from Schedule III to Schedule II. Certain groups will call it a refreshing Spring shower when Obama micturates on their dorsal side and informs them it is precipitation. Never mind that Number two is a Drug Warrior since 1972 and responsible for an entire generation of black men being imprisoned for a ridiculous "difference" between crack and cocaine sentencing. Thanks partisan myrmidons and lickspittles. You're the problem.
 
2014-04-05 04:38:02 PM
They should be moving to do the will of the people and legalize it instead of reclassifying how illegal it is.
 
2014-04-05 04:43:25 PM
Really? I'm the Weeners this?

cryandhowl.files.wordpress.com

Fark I am disappoint.
 
2014-04-05 04:44:12 PM

Mugato: There are still plenty of drugs to fight, still plenty of money to be made in the drug war. They just have to get off the silly slippery slope notion that legalizing weed will somehow lead to meth being sold next to the Tylenol at the Circle K.


I think they're worried that once the gate is opened, other drugs will follow suit. Do they have a right to be worried? I suppose.

The problem is, they have absolutely no credibility. For the last 80 years, they've been telling the public that pot is as bad as heroin. And now? Oops, I guess not. Their lie is now fully exposed. Basically, if the gateways to other drugs do open, it's in part their own damned fault.

Now, personally, and in the interest of full disclosure, I am for legalizing pretty much all drugs (a few exceptions, like, the ones that actually do permanently lobotomize you or cause you to be a genuine menace to society). Oh, it'll be horrible--at first--I'm sure. But it beats what we have going on now. And in the end, I think we'll be better off for it.
 
2014-04-05 04:48:39 PM

Destructor: I think they're worried that once the gate is opened, other drugs will follow suit. Do they have a right to be worried? I suppose.


Well has that happened in places in Europe where it has been somewhat legal for some time now? I don't think there are legal crack bars in Amsterdam yet.
 
2014-04-05 05:08:11 PM

Mugato: Destructor: I think they're worried that once the gate is opened, other drugs will follow suit. Do they have a right to be worried? I suppose.

Well has that happened in places in Europe where it has been somewhat legal for some time now? I don't think there are legal crack bars in Amsterdam yet.



Portugal is a better example, going on now for over 13 year with a change in laws that views all drug possession for personal use as a civil matter with no criminal charges. The result has been a reduction in use and reduction in additional problems with heroin and cocaine related diseases and crime.
 
2014-04-05 05:10:56 PM

hubiestubert: BravadoGT: Obama's wrong about this.  The law allows the AG to reclassify it to another category without Congressional approval.

So why is he dragging Congress into it?  He has more legal authority to re-schedule pot than, say, extending the deadline for Obamacare or arbitrarily granting exemptions to it.

To nail down specific Congresscritters on their vote. It's called strategy. You get a vote that will cast these strong, freedom loving, Libertarian loving souls voting against something that they claim to support. I will not be surprised if the House tries to bury their turn on this.


In other words, Obama doesn't give two shiats about actually moving MJ out of schedule 1 he just wants to use it as a political weapon.
He's hoping that he can gain a few libertarian and hippie votes by lying about what it would take to move MJ off schedule 1 and try and catch a few Republicans voting against it so the DNC and can run endless ads and the MSM can crow about the GOP relentlessly this fall.
Even though I am totally against the criminalization of MJ if I was a GOP Congressman I would refuse to vote on it based on the fact that Obama doesn't need a single Congressional vote to move MJ off schedule 1.

I guess you're perfectly fine with the political posturing instead of any real action.
 
2014-04-05 05:13:27 PM
 "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone" ---President Obama
---Ok tough guy, make this happen
 
2014-04-05 05:16:59 PM
This runs counter to conventional wisdom, but here's a quote from an article I just read today:

Marijuana cases can be hard to prosecute and are not cost-effective, so police often prefer to focus attention on drugs like heroin and methamphetamine, [Lt. Mark Comte of the Colorado Springs police vice and narcotics unit] said.

http://www.coloradoan.com/viewart/20140404/NEWS11/304040095/Legal-ma ri juana-in-Colorado-hasn-t-stopped-black-market

I've seen a lot of people say that cops prefer to go after the pot users and dealers because they're easier to catch and easier to deal with.

BTW, I'm not surprised at all that there's still a black market for pot.  It's a combination of taxes, lack of stores and that pesky age limit.
 
2014-04-05 05:26:52 PM

GBB: It was never made illegal because it was harmful.  It was made illegal the same way alcohol was made illegal: because of the way people behaved while using it.  In the 20's, boozehounds were annoying as fark and the straights couldn't stand it.  Sure, you'll blame taxes as a financial motivation, and moonshine as a health concern.  But, it really comes down to flappers and drunks.  The only reason prohibition was repealed was because the behavior caused by prohibition was worse that before prohibition.  Look at how they regulated the shait out of it after repeal.


Alcohol was made illegal because of the religious right, who insisted that using it *at all* was sinful and responsible for the decay of our society. Never mind that, whenever alcohol is condemned in the Bible, it's because someone made an ass of themselves, fell out of their pants, and their son walked in and was all "LOL HEY FAMILY CHECK THIS shiat".

Pot was made illegal for two reasons, both of which are fairly well-documented, and both of which are garbage.
1) Pot makes your daughter sleep with black men, and black men are scary. Just like how jazz was scary black music that got your blood all hot and unChristian.
2) Hemp was a threat to the paper industry, being cheaper and able to grow just about anywhere.
 
2014-04-05 05:28:15 PM

gfid: This runs counter to conventional wisdom, but here's a quote from an article I just read today:

Marijuana cases can be hard to prosecute and are not cost-effective, so police often prefer to focus attention on drugs like heroin and methamphetamine, [Lt. Mark Comte of the Colorado Springs police vice and narcotics unit] said.

http://www.coloradoan.com/viewart/20140404/NEWS11/304040095/Legal-ma ri juana-in-Colorado-hasn-t-stopped-black-market

I've seen a lot of people say that cops prefer to go after the pot users and dealers because they're easier to catch and easier to deal with.

BTW, I'm not surprised at all that there's still a black market for pot.  It's a combination of taxes, lack of stores and that pesky age limit.


Absolutely:  The people passed a tolerably liberal amendment but it was far from specific.  The prohibitionist pants-wetters got their mitts on this and made it a real soup-sandwich.  The tax rate was set stupidly high in both states, which is something you would have thought the brains in the legislature would have figured out, but they really want to keep people from having a good time.

That being said, the primary customers for legal retail are the tourists, who are glad to pay overpriced for weed at all.  I do expect that in a couple more years when the growing capacity catches up somewhat, that retail prices will have dropped to be more competitive with the untaxed marketplace - at which point the two will have to compete on convenience.

Hopefully, they will just move along and legalize soon and let's be done with the bullcrap - $7.7 Billion a year for cannabis alone without reducing use at all is the epitome of wasted tax dollars.
 
2014-04-05 05:28:33 PM

zepher: He's hoping that he can gain a few libertarian and hippie votes


Yeah, have to score that enormous voting block.
 
2014-04-05 05:31:00 PM
As much as this is NOT likely to happen, I think the vast majority of Farkers are in agreement: Legalize it and tax it = revenue stream from sin tax. Take away some money from the DEA and local cops from enforcement (federal matching funds for drug enforcement proportional to marijuana arrests) = tax money saved. Get the non-violent petty possession folks out of jail = massive savings.

It makes TOO much sense = it will never happen. Sad.

Regan's war on Drugs failed. Get over it.
 
2014-04-05 05:36:03 PM

bmwericus: $7.7 Billion a year for cannabis alone without reducing use at all is the epitome of wasted tax dollars.


You misspelled "food stamps".
 
2014-04-05 05:46:40 PM

Mugato: bmwericus: $7.7 Billion a year for cannabis alone without reducing use at all is the epitome of wasted tax dollars.

You misspelled "food stamps".


Well, basically:  It's paychecks for DEA and their minions, Turnkeys, Lawyers, Judges and other bottom feeders, of course it's more than food, it's housing and cars and gasoline and clothes for their kids too.

Which is why I support a rehab and retraining program for all of those displaced by the end of the war.  We need to show these weary drug warriors a lot of compassion and help them with what has to be a lot of cases of PTSD when they realize their lives up to now were functionally wasted.  Then we can get them into productive jobs, maybe with the TSA.
 
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