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(Tulsa World)   In support of an Oklahoma tag, Pro-gun lawmaker shoots a fellow hunter by accident, says "I'm a safety guy. Gosh, I'm as safety as I can be"   (tulsaworld.com) divider line 57
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2014-04-04 10:11:02 AM
If that's as safety as you can be, maybe it's time to turn in those guns.
 
2014-04-04 10:13:05 AM
I was so mad at myself for even thinking about shooting the bird in this direction where I knew he was down in there.

Right. You can't be trusted with firearms. You shot in the direction of a person with an ammunition that you knew would fire wildly. You are not a responsible gun owner.
 
2014-04-04 10:17:07 AM
Chaney needs to stop teaching those safety classes...
 
2014-04-04 10:18:32 AM
This was a pure accident. It could have happened to anybody on any given day.

Holy shiat I hope not man, there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.
 
2014-04-04 10:19:15 AM

macross87: Chaney needs to stop teaching those safety classes...


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2014-04-04 10:34:14 AM

Barfmaker: there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.


It IS Oklahoma... The organ above the shoulders is considered non-vital there..
 
2014-04-04 11:03:10 AM
Does he do the dance?
 
2014-04-04 11:08:35 AM

what_now: I was so mad at myself for even thinking about shooting the bird in this direction where I knew he was down in there.

Right. You can't be trusted with firearms. You shot in the direction of a person with an ammunition that you knew would fire wildly. You are not a responsible gun owner.


everyone is a responsible gun owner

until they're not
 
2014-04-04 11:29:39 AM

Barfmaker: This was a pure accident. It could have happened to anybody on any given day.

Holy shiat I hope not man, there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.


In the military there is no such thing as an accidental discharge - there are only negligent discharges. In the UK you are instantly fined one month's salary.
 
2014-04-04 11:46:53 AM

Tigger: Barfmaker: This was a pure accident. It could have happened to anybody on any given day.

Holy shiat I hope not man, there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.

In the military there is no such thing as an accidental discharge - there are only negligent discharges. In the UK you are instantly fined one month's salary.


Fark, in Driver's Ed, they taught us, "There is no such thing as an accident, only a 'collision'."

THE THREE SIMPLE RULES
1. Check the safety when you hand off, receive, pick up, and put down a weapon. Yes, Tom - every time.
2. Muzzle points downrange, or only at things you don't mind destroying.
3. BOOGER HOOK OFF'N THE BANG-SWITCH. Keep your masturbators out of the trigger guard until you have imminent need to be in it.

// there will be a test, proctored by one C. Darwin
 
2014-04-04 12:52:15 PM
He should lose his gun rights. So should everyone else that causes injury with a ND.
 
2014-04-04 01:04:32 PM
FARK, I am disappoint.....


ravenrepublic.net
 
2014-04-04 01:04:57 PM
I hope the guy he shot apologizes.

 - Dick Cheney
 
2014-04-04 01:05:02 PM
♫ Shot to the head, and you're to blame
You give Okies a bad name... ♫
 
2014-04-04 01:05:13 PM
Youre not helping...
 
2014-04-04 01:05:17 PM

Barfmaker: This was a pure accident. It could have happened to anybody on any given day.

Holy shiat I hope not man, there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.


No shait.  My Texan uncle's wife's first husband (not named Ferris Bueller), was killed in a hunting accident.  "could have happened to anybody" is the excuse of a LOSER.
 
2014-04-04 01:06:40 PM
Sounds like he's a safety-off kinda guy.
 
2014-04-04 01:07:30 PM
I always will remember, 'twas a year ago November
I went out to hunt some deer, on a morning bright and clear
I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow:
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

I was in no mood to trifle, I took down my trusty rifle
And went out to stalk my prey - what a haul I made that day
I tied them to my fender and I drove them home somehow -
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

Oh, the law was very firm, it took away my permit
The worst punishment I ever endured
It turned out there was a reason: cows were out of season
And one of the hunters wasn't insured!

People ask me how I do it, and I say there's nothing to it
You just stand there looking cute, and when something moves, you shoot
And there's ten stuffed heads in my trophy room right now:
Two game wardens,
Seven hunters,
And a purebred Guernsey cow.
 
2014-04-04 01:07:46 PM
Even the most ardent pro-gun people will occasionally stop, point, and say, "I'm an ardent supporter of the 2nd amendment, but THAT guy shouldn't have guns."

Which is really the same thing the gun grabbers are saying, it's just a disagreement on who qualifies as a "THAT guy."

Well, it looks like we found another THAT guy.
 
2014-04-04 01:07:51 PM
LOL
 
2014-04-04 01:08:02 PM

Barfmaker: This was a pure accident. It could have happened to anybody on any given day.

Holy shiat I hope not man, there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.


Is it like carbon tax credits? Can I sell my government allowance of ballistic head injuries to another party that is more likely to use them? Because I don't have a gun and I could use some extra spending cash
 
2014-04-04 01:09:17 PM

Dr Dreidel: Tigger: Barfmaker: This was a pure accident. It could have happened to anybody on any given day.

Holy shiat I hope not man, there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.

In the military there is no such thing as an accidental discharge - there are only negligent discharges. In the UK you are instantly fined one month's salary.

Fark, in Driver's Ed, they taught us, "There is no such thing as an accident, only a 'collision'."

THE THREE SIMPLE RULES
1. Check the safety when you hand off, receive, pick up, and put down a weapon. Yes, Tom - every time.
2. Muzzle points downrange, or only at things you don't mind destroying.
3. BOOGER HOOK OFF'N THE BANG-SWITCH. Keep your masturbators out of the trigger guard until you have imminent need to be in it.

// there will be a test, proctored by one C. Darwin


That first rule is shiat.

Not every gun has a manual safety and there's no reason to go fumbling around with a gun unnecessarily looking for one if you can manage to keep your finger off the trigger and keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
 
2014-04-04 01:11:33 PM
Many safety
Such accidental
Wow
 
2014-04-04 01:12:28 PM
CSB:
In the late 90's there was a hunting "accident" in Danville, Virginia.  Hunters A and B were talking along and heard movement in the bushes.  Assuming it was a turkey, they fired.  Hitting Hunter C.  After it became apparent what they did, Hunters A and B yelled "we're going for help" and started to walk/run/move off.

Hunter C then shot both of them in the back.

Hunters A and B were charged by the local DA, no charges against Hunter C.
 
2014-04-04 01:17:39 PM
"A bird got up and flew between us, oh, probably 50 yards away. I shot at the bird and, I guess, one of my BBs hit this guy. ... I didn't even know I hit him. I'm a safety guy. Gosh, I'm as safety as I can be. I was so mad at myself for even thinking about shooting the bird in this direction where I knew he was down in there."

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2014-04-04 01:18:31 PM
Are there anti-gun hunters, subby?

/ bow-weirdos, I suppose
 
2014-04-04 01:19:24 PM
To follow Cheney's lead, just be sure he apologizes to you.
 
2014-04-04 01:20:10 PM
 Pro-gun lawmaker shoots a fellow hunter by accident, says "I'm a safety guy. Gosh, I'm as safety as I can be"


Personal responsibility in 2014. If I believe that I'm 'as safety as I can be' then it is true. You really can't hold me to be fully responsible if I was trying hard to be 'safety'.
 
2014-04-04 01:22:34 PM

HelloNeuman: Pro-gun lawmaker shoots a fellow hunter by accident, says "I'm a safety guy. Gosh, I'm as safety as I can be"


Personal responsibility in 2014. If I believe that I'm 'as safety as I can be' then it is true. You really can't hold me to be fully responsible if I was trying hard to be 'safety'.


I'm as safety as all get-out. I'm very rarely safe, though.
 
2014-04-04 01:23:03 PM
Who goes hunting without a helmet?
 
2014-04-04 01:24:25 PM

TomD9938: anti-gun hunters


also fish suffocators
 
2014-04-04 01:25:52 PM
Rich or poor, old or young, there's always idiots with guns.

ichef.bbci.co.uk

/I've been rewatching BBC's Manor House. Last night's episode featured the Lady of the house with her trigger on the finger of a double-barrel shotgun while her husband and her son's tutor were standing to her right but out in front, not behind her. She was learning how to shoot clays but not safely.
 
2014-04-04 01:27:50 PM
Yeah, this is more of a safety issue for the plantation (they were shooting pheasant in Oklahoma, so you know it was a canned-hunt place). The safe way for two guys to hunt is side by side, with one taking birds to the left and one to the right. You get spaced 50 yards apart, and allowed to shoot anything "in front" of you, this is going to happen as you swing the gun to lead the bird.

On the plus side, getting shot with a shotgun at 50 yards is rarely going to cause serious injury. It happens often enough that bird hunters call it getting "peppered."
 
2014-04-04 01:28:16 PM

JesseL: Dr Dreidel: Tigger: Barfmaker: This was a pure accident. It could have happened to anybody on any given day.

Holy shiat I hope not man, there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.

In the military there is no such thing as an accidental discharge - there are only negligent discharges. In the UK you are instantly fined one month's salary.

Fark, in Driver's Ed, they taught us, "There is no such thing as an accident, only a 'collision'."

THE THREE SIMPLE RULES
1. Check the safety when you hand off, receive, pick up, and put down a weapon. Yes, Tom - every time.
2. Muzzle points downrange, or only at things you don't mind destroying.
3. BOOGER HOOK OFF'N THE BANG-SWITCH. Keep your masturbators out of the trigger guard until you have imminent need to be in it.

// there will be a test, proctored by one C. Darwin

That first rule is shiat.

Not every gun has a manual safety and there's no reason to go fumbling around with a gun unnecessarily looking for one if you can manage to keep your finger off the trigger and keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.


I'm sure the representative followed those same guidelines as your thought process there, doesn't make it right or safer.

/start of csb
So hunting is big in Montana where I'm from, as most of you know. I was almost kicked out of hunter safety, because the day of the test my dad took me and had live ammo in his vehicle. This is supposed to be an automatic fail and come again next year offense, but the instructor pu pu'ed it and let me take the test because he felt I had no control over my fathers vehicle and what he keeps in it. So, I pass my test and proceed to go hunting with my family the next weekend. It was me, my father, grandfather, and my 2 uncles. I was in the 7th or 8th grade cant remember. Anyway, we are walking up a cooley with our dogs kicking up pheasants. I'm on the left side, my grandfather on the right with my uncle blocking at the end with my Dad and other uncle walking up the middle. One flies up in front of me at a low angle and instantly my grandpa fires on it. I drop to the ground because I can hear and FEEL the wind from the pellets whizzing past my face. I am surprised it doesn't happen more often to be honest with you. Also, it probably doesn't help by that time in the afternoon he has probably had about 5 or 6 beers, but this is how he has done it for years and will continue doing it until he can no longer walk. Take it for what you will.

/end csb
 
2014-04-04 01:30:36 PM
Need more information.   They were obviously upland bird hunting meaning there were probably 5-6 + guys walking in a line trying to flush birds.

2 rules:  NEVER fire outside of a 90 degree arc in front of you (45 degrees to either side of straight ahead) and NEVER walk in front of the line, always be in line.

If shooter flushes and shoots within his arc and guy getting hit was ahead of the line, it's guy ahead of the line's fault.   If the shooter swung outside of that arc, it's the shooters fault.

Birds flush FAST so there is no time to check if someone moved up before you fire, hence why you maintain the line.

Also unless it's the guy right next to you, bird shot is just going to be a minor annoyance, especially if it goes down your shirt...HOT!

/Didn't maintain the line once
//"Shot" in the back at ~70 yards
///Bird shot down the back of the shirt wasn't fun
 
2014-04-04 01:31:26 PM
As safe as safety can be still gets someone shot in the head... but guns aren't dangerous, nooooooo....
 
2014-04-04 01:32:10 PM

Barfmaker: This was a pure accident. It could have happened to anybody on any given day.

Holy shiat I hope not man, there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.


It's a reasonable comment for a shart, not for a shot.
 
2014-04-04 01:37:06 PM

Shadi: TomD9938: anti-gun hunters

also fish suffocators


Mushroom scroungers
 
2014-04-04 01:37:14 PM

uncleacid: Who goes hunting without a helmet?


skywriter2012.files.wordpress.com

This guy
 
2014-04-04 01:48:24 PM
The liberal press doesn't say that the other guy was a liberal whacko dressed like this

www.cjshuggables.com
 
2014-04-04 01:56:54 PM

JesseL: That first rule is shiat.


And if you drive an automatic, you can skip the part of the owner's manual about the clutch and gearshift. Thanks, Captain O-4 Obvious.

Know thy weapon. Know that the second you stop handling it safely, something you love WILL be destroyed.

// getting in the habit of checking (for) the safety is good practice regardless
// like setting your e-brake even if you're parked in Nebraska
 
2014-04-04 02:04:23 PM

Dr Dreidel: JesseL: That first rule is shiat.

And if you drive an automatic, you can skip the part of the owner's manual about the clutch and gearshift. Thanks, Captain O-4 Obvious.

Know thy weapon. Know that the second you stop handling it safely, something you love WILL be destroyed.

// getting in the habit of checking (for) the safety is good practice regardless
// like setting your e-brake even if you're parked in Nebraska


If you're making universal rules for firearm handling, it's best that they don't have exceptions for certain guns. That's why I like Jeff Cooper's four rules.

1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it.
 
2014-04-04 02:30:59 PM
I wanted to come in here and say screw you people bashing us Okies and our guns, then I remembered the story of my Uncle Dave and my 'Uncle' Rex (my aunt's boyfriend) going turkey hunting together.  Uncle Dave was hunkered down in some bushes blowing in his turkey call (also point out that he was wearing a red bandana for some reason) when Rex spotted something red in the bushes making turkey noises so long story short (too late) poor ol' Uncle Dave got shot.  Nothing life threatening at least but still pretty stupid all the way around.

/don't even ask about the time my brother about blew my head off snapping up a double-barrell shotgun to try to scare me.....
 
2014-04-04 02:38:53 PM
He's taken the Cheney initiative
 
2014-04-04 03:37:57 PM
He took a shot even though he was "temporarily blinded by the sun" and couldn't identify what he was pointing his weapon at.
He shouldn't be allowed near guns.

And thank the gods it was a pheasant hunt, not elk.
 
2014-04-04 04:14:19 PM

JesseL: Dr Dreidel: JesseL: That first rule is shiat.

And if you drive an automatic, you can skip the part of the owner's manual about the clutch and gearshift. Thanks, Captain O-4 Obvious.

Know thy weapon. Know that the second you stop handling it safely, something you love WILL be destroyed.

// getting in the habit of checking (for) the safety is good practice regardless
// like setting your e-brake even if you're parked in Nebraska

If you're making universal rules for firearm handling, it's best that they don't have exceptions for certain guns. That's why I like Jeff Cooper's four rules.

1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it.


Wrong.

1. Verify cooler is full if cold beer.
2. Drink lots of cold beer.
3. Safety
4. No pooftas
 
2014-04-04 04:37:21 PM
FTFA I was so mad at myself for even thinking about shooting the bird in this direction where I knew he was down in there.

This was a pure accident.



Knowingly firing in the direction of another human being and hitting them is not an accident.  I can't think of a better example of pure negligence.
 
2014-04-04 04:45:30 PM
Aw, c'mon .. what's a little lead between friends?
 
2014-04-04 04:58:04 PM

markie_farkie: Barfmaker: there cannot be an "acceptable" amount of shooting someone in the farking head.

It IS Oklahoma... The organ above the shoulders is considered non-vital there..


I'll run him through a firearms safety course (good PR for him after shooting his friend - meh pr for me because I'm on the internets ;) )
 
2014-04-04 06:05:46 PM
"Gosh, I'm as safety as I can be."

Thinks he knows what he's doing, just like EVERY GUN OWNER.
 
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